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Amgen Tour of California Stage Four - Live!

Tour_of_cali_live_mediumMerced to Clovis, here we go!

Tour Tracker HERE.

[UPDATE] Chris here, was just putting up a post, so I'll merge that one here.

OK, we're not kicking off til 11am I believe, but what the hey. Today's stage from Merced to Clovis sounds an awful lot like a section of the Central Valley freeway system, i.e. devoid of any incline, and maybe even with a tailwind. But no, the course itself consists of pretending the peloton is off to visit Yosemite instead, before turning south just short of the park boundary. There is a fair amount of climbing on tap, from nearly sea level to just shy of 4,000 feet, but it's not all at once and it's all downhill from about mile 75 (of 115). Best bet: a sprint finish, though who's on hand to contest it depends on how the legs are feeling.

Which should be: good. After all, the sun is expected to make its 2009 ATOC debut today, though that won't solve all the riders' concerns. There is sure to be enough moisture left in the system for that 4,000'-high air to pack a serious chill. Look for the golden fleece to show up sometime in the last hour, once the black vests are put away for the day. But it's a step in the right direction, and the forecast for Visalia tomorrow is 65 and sunny. No whining!

Oh, and the passing storms have apparently left high seas in their wake. Translation: the silence from Gavia today will be deafening...

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Gavia

just doesn’t bother until the final stages, does she?

by Sui Juris on Feb 18, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Hi

Nice weather today :-)

by LittleOldLady on Feb 18, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

DOH!

Ignore my post everyone.

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

you had a post? really, you?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone's hot on the editing button :)

I tried to eliminate my own story but someone already sanctioned it… with extreme prejudice! :)

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

11:08 PST
We’ve heard that there is still snow and ice on the road surface on the way up the fourth and final KOM. However, organizers are at work plowing the road, so hopefully it will be clear by the time the riders arrive in several hours.

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Wow

fun descent?

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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 18, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh

Ignore my post too. I merged it with this one.

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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 18, 2009 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

CN

11:08 PST
We’ve heard that there is still snow and ice on the road surface on the way up the fourth and final KOM. However, organizers are at work plowing the road, so hopefully it will be clear by the time the riders arrive in several hours.

by GKS on Feb 18, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

Oh dear

A perfect spot for a Romulan ambush. Makes their cloaking devises al the better.

by ursula on Feb 18, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It's life, Jim, but not as we know it...

… not as we know it…
… not as we know it…
… not as we know it…

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Who did that song?

Can’t get it out of my head now.

by Jens on Feb 18, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The Firm

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

"Eventually it is going to break and we will have a break"

couldn’t have said that better myself Frankie

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Feb 18, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

Hi all

I know I asked this before a few weeks ago (is that when TdUnder was ? time flies) , but here again: does stage distance usually not include the neutral zone?
For example today is 188km plus the neutral ?

by peterfish on Feb 18, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

update

11:35 PST 7.5mi/108.3mi to go
The riders are travelling at 30 miles per hour. We’ve got some good news from the final climb. Race organizers have cleared the road on the last KOM, so the race is officially cleared to go up and over it. A special shout out goes to Eric Smith and his Madera County crew for clearing the course. They’ve been at it since midnight.

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

would they stop calling him Frank Mathias

his name is Mathias Frank

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~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Feb 18, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

They miss the rain

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~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Feb 18, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I still have to get used to race video being available

Last couple of years I lived on Curaçao and internet was too slow to see any of the fun. Now I can participate in live threads. Will it get any better than this?

by Lopex on Feb 18, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Yes...

… it’s called De Ronde.

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

and it's called sporza or rai

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by Phil H. on Feb 18, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

rai use to be a lot better...

or, rather, raisport…
gw and ronde in italian a few years ago

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

much....

wait until the giro

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I can actually go watch de Ronde live :-)

But the coverage on television is good too so I’ll probably do that. Europe is so the place to be :-)

by Lopex on Feb 18, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

doesn't he always?

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Big George has bike issues

now it really feels like April

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~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Feb 18, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

anyone know how to get rid of the new comments box,

that keeps appearing in my window,
I went to my “edit settings”,
and clicked on NO, for
" Live update comment threads with new comments"
and that only seemed to block all new comments?

by peterfish on Feb 18, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

he's back in the pack

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

renshaw goes next

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

5 man break

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

and all together again...

time for camp songs

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

bruce gap

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

brucegap.com

twitter.com/brucegap
tracker.amgentourofcalifornia.com/brucegap

by peterfish on Feb 18, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

ha...

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

some nice little bumps on today's route

hello all

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by Willj on Feb 18, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

hehe

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by Willj on Feb 18, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

CNews says

There are five total KOMs, and while they are “only” categories 3 and 4, it’s not like those are the only climbs of the day. The stage’s profile is very jagged — excepting the first 15 miles and the last 15 miles, the stage is constantly up or down

by peterfish on Feb 18, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I propose that all KOM jerseys in ever race

are polka dot – the races can pick the color – but polka dots rule

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by Willj on Feb 18, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

hehe

you forget I have a polka dot jersey wherethe dots are marmottes …. ;)

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by Willj on Feb 18, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

;)

lol

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by Willj on Feb 18, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It looks like beautiful california today

versus Seaworld

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by Willj on Feb 18, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

GH attacks

taking a small group with him

by Bruce Suomi on Feb 18, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Already soooo much better than yesterday

I hope the fireworks continue all day!

"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."

by Rolls on Feb 18, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Very disjointed this morning...

… absolute craziness.

PS: The SexyBack jersey looks like FdJ on streaming video.

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

Really Frankie? Floyd... right on form?

89th in the prologue?

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Hah.

That was a 5% grade and they were doing 26 mph on it. Mortals can’t do that. Lotta energy today.

"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."

by Rolls on Feb 18, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

It's in the data on the tourtracker thingy, just above the video window

And I’m liking it!

"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."

by Rolls on Feb 18, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol

Yes, way more extraterrestrial than me and most all other peeps, that’s for sure!

"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."

by Rolls on Feb 18, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

On the Amgen Tour Tracker

I keep eyeing the great side roads on the map at right

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by Willj on Feb 18, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

There are some gorgeous rides out there...

… for either the gasoline or lactic acid powered variety of rider. I’ve been all over the roads they are on today and it is breathtakingly beautiful.

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at how green it is! So beautiful...

… and that soil really is that red.

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

hehe

my greatest cycling skill is route planning (versus speed, strength, etc)

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by Willj on Feb 18, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Oh yeah.

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay to be fair

the gps thing on the TourTracker is pretty sweet

by bradBordeaux on Feb 18, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Jonathan Cantwell (Fly V Australia) abandons

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

The coverage is great

It’s fun to see the “developing” part of the race

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by Willj on Feb 18, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Floyd!

Head down, full speed ahead

by ursula on Feb 18, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Do you guys see all that yellow chalk on the roads?

Livestrong was handing out boxes and boxes of that yellow road chalk at the Prologue, I imagine they’ve been doing it at each stage. That’s a phenomenal amount of chalk! Holy hell!

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

There's a group that will be going along these somewhat deserted roads...

… recovering all the empty gel packs and water bottles right? RIGHT!!?! It’s not like we have TdF crowds lining the roads for every scrap to sell on eBay.

Crashdan – making love to the State of California.

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

In TdG (our smaller race), there were people

trolling for ebay scraps… A Rock Racing musette went for over $100. (OK, so I only tried to do that on one stage – and got nothing but a few water bottles.)

by cg. on Feb 18, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

and for the record

i was there for me not ebay! (I heart musettes.)

by cg. on Feb 18, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I need to start picking these things up

$100 for a musette? Man. I could make more recycling the stuff I trip over than selling photos, at some races.

by Sui Juris on Feb 18, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

At work

and not watching tourtracker, so thanks for the reports

by Katiek on Feb 18, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

ctv live now

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

major news there

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Crashdan pees

Everyone’s doing it.

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What will happen if we cross the streams?

The end of the world?

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 18, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

in Canada we say

“don’t you eat that yellow snow, and watch out where the huskies go” = Frank Zappa

by peterfish on Feb 18, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Mancebo in the break

Astana’s gonna hammer it up the climbs, I guess

Also, hello there. This is the first day I’ve been able to make it on to watch.

by BDBrian on Feb 18, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

CTT

Will they keep some of their powder dry for the rest of the season or will they spend everything in the early season races?

by Lopex on Feb 18, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

The police

found on of the Astana bikes in a donut shop!

by Lopex on Feb 18, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

Hi, dudes and dudettes! Just checking in, how is everyone doing today?

Wow, it’s sunny in CA today. Let’s see: for the first time ever i thnk i can ID the breakaway riders….Mancebo, Hamilton, McCartney and …

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by Ruthann on Feb 18, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

Serge Pauwels (Cervélo TestTeam)

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah. Thank you! :-)

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by Ruthann on Feb 18, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

gap 1.35

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by umwolverine on Feb 18, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

Because

he looks like Ron Jeremy?

"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."

by Rolls on Feb 18, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

barf

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Wha?

You dont like horrible 70’s porno with lots of back hair and wah-wah/farfisa bad funk music?

"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."

by Rolls on Feb 18, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

O/T How the hell is Bruce getting a BruceGap from the AToC?

I mean, he’s on the other side of the world from CA and we are right here, in the same country, fergawdsake. Right? Right? Bruce, do you have Special Powers that you have not told us about yet?

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by Ruthann on Feb 18, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

I would like to officially thank

all russians, tactically inept swedish kings, traitorous noblemen and rebelling hordes that were helpful in separating Finland from Sweden. May your efforts never be forgotten.

by Jens on Feb 18, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

all your questions answered at

brucegap.com
twitter.com/brucegap
tracker.amgentourofcalifornia.com/brucegap

by peterfish on Feb 18, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Bwah! LOL You guys slay me!

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by Ruthann on Feb 18, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Off to lunch...

Wahoo’s Tacos baby… mmmmmmmm….

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by crashdan on Feb 18, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

Hahaha!!! :D

No insults to our music please, we are embarrassed enough. Easy for you Swedes when you have ABBA after all….

by Bruce Suomi on Feb 18, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions