Tirreno-Adriatico, Stage 5 ITT...LIVE!
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 15, 2009 6:00 AM EDT
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My hunch from last year's results is that this course favors climbers more than most time trials, but is still reasonably favorable to the traditional chronomen. It's also March, not July. So the best way to handicap this race is to pick out guys who did well on Montelupone (on-form climbers) who are known to run well against the watch. That'd be Lovkvist, Nibali, Hesjedal, Kloden, Basso and Gerdemann, in roughly that order.
But it's March, so who knows. In any case, this stage should decide the overall, so enjoy!
Oh, and where to watch: GazzettaTV!
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Looking forward to some Sunday Cycling :-)
Linus looking very good with this TT coming up, was it eighth last time round with a dodgy leg?
If no Milram win then I’ll go for Basso and a bunch of vds points! :-)
milramfan.
+100
But 1 Basso 2 Gerdemann 3 Gasparotto would be cooler
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Fair warning in advance
I’m incredibly psyched for this stage, bordering on jittery.
Should Klöden weasel his way past Lövkvist today using sneaky, underhanded, treacherous tricks such as “superior TT-skills” there will be a steady stream of invectives coming from this computer.
"Sausagesucking, sauerkrautsmelling son of a schweinhund " is a frase that could well come into play for instance.
Can we get this race going already?
PS: Oh and Basso better lay low too or he’ll get his as well.
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
RAI coverage to start at 14:10 GMT as far as I can see.
(the Gazzetta TV link Chris posted is the RAI feed)
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Guess what...my parents announced the other day that my uncle and aunt are visiting...
…THIS AFTERNOON! I think you can guess what my expression is like right now. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
"Lovely to see you! Please excuse the laptop and headphones--I have this project for work..."
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
due to the lingering symptoms of a virus, according to news reports.
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
curse of the rainbow jersey?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
His hottitude?
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Live video alternative here
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Leeenoos not on today
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Yeah. Just in time. I couldn't wake up any earlier today. Too tired.
Are we rooting together for Lovkvist Jens?
Wait!
I thought we were rooting for Kloden. ducks
quack quack!
No longer that I call them tights, I call them freedom ware.
by TheFigurehead on Mar 15, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
klodi on the road
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
The Evil One
Go Klodi yourself!
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
At present
gaining 2 seconds per k over Lovkvist
where are you getting split times?
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
kidding l think, no time splits (that I know of)
by Bruce Suomi on Mar 15, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow Santa - you're really working at baiting Jens today.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
That was what the commentators said
It does sound a bit dodgy, doesn’t it
where's steph??? basso sightings
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
just looking out for ya
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
btw, that flv prob i was having yesterday? it's been solved. not half bad either
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
no, you're suppose to blame it on the cats
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I'm done cursing ctv now.
Since I was too pissy in the last thread…. good morning guys. :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
rolling eyes...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Does it help I am super happy for Cd'E today too?
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
wegs!!!
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
So um...
Can a Milram time trial rider be described as a ‘flying cow’?
"blue" flying cow
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
*sigh* The drug problems in Germany. Terrible.
Don’t they know blue cows can’t fly?
Bit of a traitor? What about Ryder?
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
I hope Ryder does well, but I like Columbia too. :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Yes, that's it. It's all about our teams.
Go Thomas and Ryder! :-P
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Wegman continues "Crappy day for Germany"
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
klodi faster than devo at the intermediate?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Italians suck at TT-coverage, always have
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
If you get Miko trained, we need to talk
’cause both my girls just look at me when I want a refill. And I thought dogs stood a chance at learning. ha ha
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
It's a fact
they never show decent split times. It’s all a big guessing game until riders arrive at the finish.
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Yes
Thinking hard - really hard - of something witty to say....
by Cyclingrush on Mar 15, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Basso molto sucko
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
one should not watch the food network while hungry
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Where are our Italian-English interpreters?
Thinking hard - really hard - of something witty to say....
it's a tt, you need interpreters?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Only for the backstories
Thinking hard - really hard - of something witty to say....
by Cyclingrush on Mar 15, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
okay, diluca looks like a huge bug with that helmet and eyewear
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Like watching Alien on acid
Thinking hard - really hard - of something witty to say....
by Cyclingrush on Mar 15, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
at least the roads are dry
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
nope
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Right mouse click and refresh... I think yours will then show the same as ours.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
It's okay, you can come play, it's all fun smack talk. tee hee. :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Its ok. Has happen many times before. No one beats the bruce gap.
by ZoeRochelle on Mar 15, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Now, I'm fascinated by it...
right click, refresh
right click, refresh
right click, refresh
This is NOT for the AR-OC personality
right click, refresh
Or just hit the stop and start buttons--same thing.
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
Bottom left of the picture--little button with two lines on it.
that’s stop—it then turns into an arrow for start.
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
Okay, that's video. We were chatting the chat posts here.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Oh, okay. People have gaps on the chat posts?
Didn’t know that was possible.
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
right click, refresh
right click, refresh
try it…right click, refresh
I can’t stop…right click, refresh
Usually your own will post quicker on your screen than anothers.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
that's good cobblin'
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Producer has man-love for Klöden?
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
How do you know producer's not a woman who just finds him...
a nice and well spoken young man.
ah, let the man breathe
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I heard something about
spaghetti sauce..“Prego Prego”
gotcha
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
klodi, -20
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
currently 1st
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys are a couple of minutes ahead of me
Thinking hard - really hard - of something witty to say....
So far
Andreas Kloden
Stijn Devolder (QST) +20
Scarponi +21
Mikhail Ignatiev (KAT) +?
Robert Gesink (RAB / + 40’’)
Edvald Boasson Hagen (THR / + 52’’).
Leenoos Gerdemann +58
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
I was just laughing at that.
More aero if off the back like that. Although to reach around to get it would waste that savings no?
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
now, that's interesting
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
From the commentators (so beware)
Lovkvist going about the same speed as Basso
Those (Giant?) TT bikes look like crap
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
THR had the same TTbikes last year
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
No. Its last years giant TT bike
Horizontal sections are more aero than slanted ones however.
blue eyes!!!
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
usually does
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
to look at? no, not bad at all
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by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Lovkvist currently 20s down on Kloden
believe it or not
looks a little pained
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Crap
Thinking hard - really hard - of something witty to say....
by Cyclingrush on Mar 15, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
lovkist's bike
is def still a giant.
Scott hasn’t gotten all of the plasmas sized for the riders yet.
That's the kind way of saying it...
…I have a feeling that a lot of the riders aren’t exactly thrilled with the Scott TT bike. That’s just a guess though.
True. I dunno. Just seems like its taking an awfully long time to make the switch...
by all reports the Giant bike is very good, too.
Coincedence
They’re talking about this on the Justin TV chat ticker, too.
10:35yonatan7:it’s all custom giants
10:36yonatan7:half still have old giants
10:36yonatan7:other half have the scott plasmas
Thomas not enjoying himself
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
focus here people
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
focus here people!
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Rebellin 1.20 down on Kloden
Italians really can’t TT
Joaquim Rodriguez was a boxer
until he was 14. Still does it for winter training! (Just heard it on Sporza).
Hi guys
So where did Nibali come in?
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 15, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions
That'll teach me to do any predicting...
I thought he’d lose time, but still be in the hunt for the overall.
LOL.
I’m Dumb.
-Bob
AKA -Bianchi Bob
by DaniloTifoso on Mar 16, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
lovkvist +21
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Lovkvist second?
+21… not bad
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by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 15, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
E; Fares
doesn’t own a team skinsuit??
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by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 15, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions
klodi ahead by 6 secs
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by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
correction, 5 secs
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Sausagesucking, sauerkrautsmelling son of a schweinhund !!!!
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Not close to over
IIRC there are places to make up time in the next few days.
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 15, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
And
now those losers have to protect the jersey
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by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 15, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Possible tomorrow, but won't the last day just be for sprinters?
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
yippers
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Bumpy tomorrow with one big climb
Hard to see where you take time though
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
+1
No longer that I call them tights, I call them freedom ware.
by TheFigurehead on Mar 15, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
That was lövkvist
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Really, Thomas' legs are MUCH nicer looking. :-P
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Without my glasses on and without coffee...
YOU look like Klöden
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
If Klöden had just worn the BIG goldchain he would have lost those 6 secs we needed
bummer
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
I--the royal we, you know
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
I sound like I am 80 years old when I say that
by ZoeRochelle on Mar 15, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
right click, refresh
right click, refresh
I just checked for a “right click, audio”…it wasn’t there.
right click, refresh
now talkin' to klodi
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
"Tommorrow is a hard and long day and...
… Suck it Jens"
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
now Klöden:
was hard in the end. Today lucky for the win. Lövkvist is a good rider, tomorrow is hard day
J Rod not a factor. So, final?
1 Andreas Kloden 41’32"
2 Stijn Devolder (QST) +20
3 Lovkvist +21
4 Scarponi +21
5 Mikhail Ignatiev (KAT) +? still don’t have his time
6 Robert Gesink (RAB / + 40’’)
7 Garzelli +41
8 Edvald Boasson Hagen (THR / + 52’’).
9 Leenoos Gerdemann +58
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
Italy has an incredible number of beautiful opera houses
But I would still put France’s Chorégies d’Orange above all of them.
The history of that place is quite interesting
apparently it was built as an arena for some strange Italian ball game that was incredibly popular for 500 years or so, roughly until they discovered football. Pallone con Bracciale, they call it. Albertina might understand it because from the clips I’ve watched on YouTube it looks as equally incomprehensible as those strange Basque games.
The Opera house was only an afterthought as in help, what can we do with this very old, funny-shaped building with no roof.
Suck on this Jens
My prediction from yesterday:
Top 3 after the TT
1. Lövkvist
2. Klöden
3. Scarponi
swap 1st and 2nd
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
well, it did finish on an uphill
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by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't think he could TT without the Fat One yelling Venga! at him
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
garzelli in 4th by 41 secs... cool
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
see monty's reply to your earlier post
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by umwolverine on Mar 15, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, those poor Astaniis needed something to cheer them up this week
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
I'm sure winning VDS points is right up there as one of Johan's top priorities
right along with:
- getting better DVD’s for the teambus
- fixing hotelrooms with a view at the Tour of Poland
- making sure kasach riders get an opportunity to race at the highest level
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Johan asks me everyday what he should target!
I usually say, “Beat all Swedes into submission. They like the beatings.”
Well, not in the top 9
The new overall standings:
1. Andreas Klöden (AST) 16h51’13
2. Thomas Lövkvist (THR) + 6’’
3. Michele Scarponi (SDA) + 21’’
4. Stefano Garzelli (ASA) + 41’’
5. Davide Rebellin (SDA) + 1’02’’
6. Vincenzo Nibali (LIQ) + 1’07’’
7. Linus Gerdemann (MRM) + 1’22’’
8. Ivan Basso (LIQ) + 1’25’’
9. Ryder Hesjedal (GRM) + 1’26’’
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
Well I'm not going to gloat because I'm more respectful then Jens
oh who am I kdding, I’m not gloating because tomorrow is a brutal stage, if Kloden wins this thing I will be gloating all day long.
I don't know if you knew this, CTV is run by Bernard Madoff
Anybody have Geraint Thomas?
Apparently, he crashed out of the TT today, breaking his nose and the ischiopubic bone in his groin. Out for at least 20 days, will miss MSR and Flanders. More here.
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
just saw that
ouch :-( . Particularly “Thomas crashed on a right hand corner early in the time trial and went over the guardrail. His bike ended up in a tree and he went down a banking” – sounds like he’s lucky his injuries weren’t more serious. and frustrating for him that he had the 2nd fastest time at the first split before crashing … not that it sounds like anyone watching via an RAI feed would have known because he isn’t Italian ;-) (ie he wouldn’t have been shown on TV).
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