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Paris-Nice Final Stage Post Race

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Excitement to the finish!

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You're fast :-) Thank you!

"It's official. For the next four years, it will be pronounced 'nuclear' " --Seth Meyers

by Ruthann on Mar 15, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

same here

and even better: Colom is on my team, and he already payed off the 2 points I payed for him.

Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !

by ton_oncle on Mar 15, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me, too!

It’s been a really exciting week here at PN.

"It's official. For the next four years, it will be pronounced 'nuclear' " --Seth Meyers

by Ruthann on Mar 15, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

every stage was interesting

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by Willj on Mar 15, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

VDs points from final GC

Final GC (top 10):
1. Luis Leon Sanchez 250
2. Frank Schleck 180
3. Sylvain Chavanel 150
4. Alberto Contador 125
5. Tony Colom 100
6. Jens! Voigt 80
7. Kevin Seeldrayers 60
8. J. Hivert 40
9. Yuri Trofimov 20
10. Christophe Le Mevel 10

He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans

by majope on Mar 15, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Not even that

most of them are in Italy right now. Losing.

by Monty. on Mar 15, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?

by crashdan on Mar 15, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

i am glad that my PdC VDS team

is different from my Cyclingfever team – i managed to tank remarkably over there…

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by nicknorco on Mar 15, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great day today!

Props to Contador for fighting on today…..to Chavenal for riding his brains out after his flat to protect his podium place….to Sanchez and Cd’E for tearing it up yesterday and not panicking today. Smart riding by Cd’E!

Bring on the Cobbles!

by steph- on Mar 15, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

looks like i missed the fun but yay Chavanel!

sounds like he had to put up a fight after that mechanical, so i’m really glad that he stayed on the podium and got the green – he certainly earned it! he’s my one VDS guy in the top ten.

congrats to Sanchez, too! and i continue to be impressed with Seeldrayers…

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by nicknorco on Mar 15, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

PS

Cadel was in on the action and i missed it?

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by nicknorco on Mar 15, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

My estimations of the final VDS points:

So wouldn’t you know it- Contador brings home the most VDS points

1. Luis Leon Sanchez 250+10+10-40-6=316
2. Frank Schleck 180+25+10+10=225
3. Sylvain Chavanel 150+40+6+6+6+60=268
4. Alberto Contador 125+40+6+6+40+6+25+40+40=328
5. Tony Colom 100+25+40+20=185
6. Jens! Voigt 80
7. Kevin Seeldrayers 60+60=120
8. J. Hivert 40+40=80
9. Yuri Trofimov 20+20=40
10. Christophe Le Mevel 10
Others
Wiggins 25
Haussler 40
Renshaw 25
Lorenzetto 10+10=20
Flecha 25
Vandevelde 40
Roy 40+20=60
Voeckler 25
Martin 10+60=70

Points competition:
Chavanel, Contador,Colom
KOM:
Martin, Contador, Roy
Young rider:
Seldrayers, Hivert, Trophy Mom

by ursula on Mar 15, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

(or +2)

My 2 pointers are paying off.

right click, refresh

by swells on Mar 15, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

This year's Christian Vandevelde

He’s a great buy at 2 points. He’s already paid for himself and will score a fair bit more I’m thinkin’.

Meanwhile Chavanel is in top form heading into the cobbles.

Frank Schleck- a fine solid tune-up. Just what was planned for him.

Martin- Excellent way to pick up VDS points with the KOM jersey.

Lulu- what’s he gonna do now? Lat year he followed up his 5th place at P-N with a 3rd at Criterium.

by ursula on Mar 15, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

How on earth did you get C for 2 points?

I thought Chris wouldn’t allow us to keep our guys from last year as a bonus of getting them then at lower costs.

LOL!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Mar 15, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol is right!

I was equating Colom as like Vandevelde- an older guy who FINALLY gets a chance to ride for himself and shows the class he has.

by ursula on Mar 15, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

:-) That might've been me more wishing there was a way to do just that -

get guys early and keep them at those points if we never get rid of them. ha ha.
I could not fathom the VDS sheet nightmares.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Mar 15, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keeper league!

maybe we’ll do one of those in a year or so.

by ursula on Mar 15, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well he probably won't be the next C

maybe in the VDS but that’s it. He will probably be leader much more than C will, and will race to win more often but I don’t think he will be able to pull off a to 5 at the Tour, maybe the Vuelta if the field is thin. Chavanel will now probably go and work for Bonnen for most of the next races, maybe Quickstep will be nice enough to allow him to be leader at Dwars…nah. Lulu will be the most interesting because the rest of his season depends a bit on CONI, will he get to lead every time he races and at the Tour?

I don't know if you knew this, CTV is run by Bernard Madoff

by Phil H. on Mar 15, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Phil... that would be a top 4 finish. LOL!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Mar 15, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Nikki, I usually use top 5 when a rider is 4th or 5th

but yes he was 4th! But Colom will not get 4th or 5th I believe.

I don't know if you knew this, CTV is run by Bernard Madoff

by Phil H. on Mar 15, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Colom but yeah, don't think he'll be at that level in a 3 week stage race.

I love C and this year is going to one hell of a Tour. I think C mentally is ready but damn, there’s a lot of guys going for that podium. Forever the fan I am though – Go C! :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Mar 15, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well in VDS terms Colom doesn't have to place 4th in the Tour.

He’s already halfway to C’s VDS totals last year.

But it will be interesting to see what Katyusha does in the Grand Tours. They have Jennifer Grey for the Giro but of their GC hopes it’s 1) Colom, b) Karpets, and 3) no one else. Which GT will they throw Colom at? Will he do two of them?

by ursula on Mar 15, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Colom is doing the Tour and Vuelta

maybe Karpets will do the Giro again but this year they don’t have much for the overall, seeing how rich they are though they will probably end up with Contador and a Schleck in a few years.

I don't know if you knew this, CTV is run by Bernard Madoff

by Phil H. on Mar 15, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's doing the Giro right?

although I’m assuming Danielson will be leader, but he could get himself a good result at the moster TT, oh the Giro is getting close!

I don't know if you knew this, CTV is run by Bernard Madoff

by Phil H. on Mar 15, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so psyched for cobbles I haven't gotten wrapped up in the Giro yet.

But yes, he is riding it. Not positive Tommy D is the leader just yet but I am so hoping he gets things mentally squared away so that he can help support C in the climbs at the Tour. If C can get some more solid suppoort there, I’m going to be thrilled!!!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Mar 15, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah- TD- oy

I was hoping for a much better result for Danielson at Murcia.

by ursula on Mar 15, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love TD and he's a great rider.

I just don’t think he’s meant to be the GC guy. I think he, at least mentally, as it would take that pressure off of him which seems to cause him issues, is really meant to be that ultimate domestique that you know you can count on. And I wish that would be okay for him to focus on it that way. I think he would be excellent and still be able to get some results for himself in that manner of planning. Heart the guy but that pressure is just not for everyone.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Mar 15, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I just don't see it in him

he was the rider I went back and fourth with the most during my VDS picking, in the end I just couldn’t pick him because I don’t think he will score all the much but I hope he does well.

I don't know if you knew this, CTV is run by Bernard Madoff

by Phil H. on Mar 15, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I'm pumped for cobbles as well

but think of it this way, the closer the Giro is the closer Flanders is! 3 weeks today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I don't know if you knew this, CTV is run by Bernard Madoff

by Phil H. on Mar 15, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now I'm even more mad that I couldn't pick T. Martin for my VDS

that coupled with Klodi showing me it was very dumb to leave him out VDS made up of every other German all-star but him. Errr, oh well nice result for Martin, never thought in a million years he would win a mountains jersey in a big race like this.

I don't know if you knew this, CTV is run by Bernard Madoff

by Phil H. on Mar 15, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah about Martin

Of course we forgot to put Tony Martin on the VDS list, remember so don’t bang your head too much! Save that for missing Klodi. ;) As a general rule, I think when picking the cheaper VDS guys (below 10 points in cost) to use chrono abilities as a general tie breaker, all else being equal.

by ursula on Mar 15, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they keep scoring I'll be more happy then angry

because well, that means they are winning.

I don't know if you knew this, CTV is run by Bernard Madoff

by Phil H. on Mar 15, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Think I have the same

here.

He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans

by majope on Mar 15, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holy moses. Excellent indeed!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Mar 15, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very nice!

I got a big 65 from P-N, for a total so far of 695.

He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans

by majope on Mar 15, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

most excellent!

i think i got 333 for P-N, if ursula’s numbers are right…

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by nicknorco on Mar 15, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

BUT

…are they right? Ooooooo.

by ursula on Mar 15, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

664 here

Are there points for the jerseys?

Come on, man. I had a rough night and I hate the fuckin' Eagles, man!

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 15, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

i have the same question...

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by nicknorco on Mar 15, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes and I included them

The three lesser jerseys, KOM, points, young rider, are all 60-40-20 points for the top three.

by ursula on Mar 15, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

add 80 then

744 then…
I like me some LL Sanchez.

Come on, man. I had a rough night and I hate the fuckin' Eagles, man!

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 15, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks!

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by nicknorco on Mar 15, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

the same points for

Portinado :)

So, Chavanel, LLSanchez, Trofimov and Haussler?

by semprenaroda on Mar 15, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

436 for me

Just happy to get some kind of points since I had 10 going to the race… But I also got Kloden on my team … so will have a little love fro T-A.

by ETlite on Mar 15, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

VDS: Riders with the best rates of return so far

Returns per point spent

2-pointers:
Kevyn Ista—100 (on 0 teams)
Antonio Colom—92.5 (on 37 teams)
Ruben Plaza Molina—82.5 (on 1 team)

1-pointers:
Jonathan Hivert—105 (1 team)
Pieter Weening—100 (21 teams)
Graeme Brown—80 (on 42 teams)
Xavier Tondo—80 (3 teams)

Nobody else has broken the 67 points per point spent barrier, but a few are close.

To date, 5747 points have been distributed out of 6282 available (the other 535 going to riders who weren’t on the list). Still another 1531 to come from Tirreno-Adriatico, where the 14 people who picked Kloden could end up quite happy…or not, depending on what happens tomorrow.

He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans

by majope on Mar 15, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

so,

am I winning yet…?

Come on, man. I had a rough night and I hate the fuckin' Eagles, man!

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 15, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

nicoises podium girls

Anybody notice their very un-cote-d’azur attire? They were pretty and all – but just jeans and tshirts. So funny for Nice – maybe trying to live down the reputation here. Not complaining, i just found it ironic.

by yeehoo on Mar 16, 2009 5:29 AM EDT reply actions  

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