Power Poll #2- Pre-MSR/Cobbles Edition!

Not only that but this is the annual drink your kool-aid here! edition.
So okay, since the last time we met, we've seen the 1st weekend in Belgium (and Switzerland), Eroica, and the 1st three week-long stage races. What tends to happen now is that certain Story Lines get set. You know: a certain team sucks! Or a certain rider looks better than anyone else! Or whatever; regardless, we fans tend to jump to conclusions about how the season is gonna play out based on these early races.
The reality, of course, is different. There is no Start To The Season where all riders and all teams are fully prepared, ready to go. That's true in any sport. At this point, post Tirreno-Adriatico, some riders are peaking for the season, while others are just shaking the rust off and they use these races to do that. Reality says that for some riders, the races that we just witnessed are THE races of the year (hiya Lulu!), while for others (Alexandr Kolobnev) they are in training mode.
So below I rank the teams and for most of them I look at why the story lines are (i.e. what type of kool-aid are we supposed to be drinking) and then look at the reality. To the rankings!
1. Quickstep Kool-aid: This team is set to have an historic year on the cobbles. We're talking Total Domination. Boonen flexed his muscles the opening weekend. Chavanel has been on fire, both on the cobbles and now at Paris-Nice. What a GREAT pick-up. Devolder showed with his TT at T-A that he's rounding into shape. Alan Davis wins TDU; Wouter Weylandt wins Le Samyn so we know they have depth and support. This team will be favorites to win ALL the cobbles races.
Reality: Actually not all that far from the kool-aid to be honest. Chavanel is so far the best pick-up of the year, improving on a very good last season. All their pieces are falling into place for the cobbles season. In addition Cancellara and arch-rival Saxo Bank is looking weaker this year. They SHOULD be favored for the next month.
But of course other teams have decent riders too. Lampre's been quiet and you have to figure Ballan and Gasparotto and Spilak etc. will make some noise. Cervelo is a tricky team, especially with Haussler on fire as well. They won't win everything. But it says here that they will win more than last year.
2. Rabobank. Kool-aid: Strong, deep and young but stupid. They have the talent but not the brains to win anything. Juan Antonio Van der Flecha embodies them: perpetual bridesmaids.
Reality: They aren't that stupid. It's not cobbles but exhibit A was the Tour of Murcia where they showed easily the finest teamwork in dominating the Queen stage and the GC of any team in all three recent stage races. Menchov worked great with his cast of Dutch supporters: Weening, Clement, Ten Dam etc. and they will be factors come Grand Tour season. Adding Gesink will make this team the dark horse to take home the big prizes later.
The one day races, true, have seen some questionable tactics that haven't delivered the bacon. Yet. But in no way are the only ones with squirrely strategies. We've seen questionable tactics from Astana, Columbia, Cervelo, Liquigas, Saxo Bank: most every team has had it's slip-ups. Why? Because it's still early in the season and teams are feeling out their riders still. Now that MSR is upon us, we'll see the results of that experimentation come into play as a strength.
No, Rabobank doesn't have a Boonen which lessens their victory totals. But Freire will be back by the 23rd (Castile and Leon). This team will get their share of wins both in the one day races and in the stage races. Reality says that Rabobank will play the role that Saxo/CSC played in past years: throw large numbers of really good riders at the competition in hopes that they can't mark them all.
3. Columbia Kool-aid: So they're good at one day races. Cavendish can't climb and they are pants at stage races, especially since they lost Kirchen.
Reality: This team is not the Platte River: a mile wide and an inch deep, and they are a factor in any race you can name. Burghardt, Eisel, Boasson, Hincapie, and Renshaw are adept on the cobbles. Lovkvist and Rogers with Siutsou in support make up the core of an excellent stage racing team. I won't go as far as Chris in proclaiming the best team in the world, but they are no worse than #2. I'll wait till the end of the season. When you see the likes of Frantisek Rabon winning the TT at Murcia, you know they are loaded. And look! I haven't even mentioned Cavendish and Kirchen!
4. Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni Kool-Aid: A new super team in the making.
Reality: Their split-schedule of a season plays to their advantage.
Most every other team started in January with TDU and is still in the process of slowly building up to peak performance and will, s with varying riders, try to hold that peak continuously through to October. SDA is different in that after the Giro they don't do much of anything until the fall Italian races. None of that yucky June-July-August racing for them! Too hot! They might perspire! As a result they can peak as a team at roughly the same time, much of which (in the spring- now) other teams are still training. So this team will probably get more results than otherwise but we won't hold that against them. Any team in the top 10 is deep and varied in it's portfolio of riders and SDA is no exception. They're the #1 team on Italian soil at the moment.
5. Astana Kool-Aid: Cat fight! It's all against Contador! He will leave the team as soon as this year ends!
Reality: The story here is injuries. Leipheimer, Horner, Vaitkus, and Brajkovic: all out. If these guys weren't hurt we wouldn't be talking of an anti-Bert conspiracy. The Reality says that once you get past their front line domestiques, Astana is much like any other team with a group of not-ready-for-prime-time players. And, no, Popovych has never been a major domestique, even on Disco. He's too mercurial.
But now the injuries are healing up, Vaitkus (who was contesting for the win at Het Nieuwsblad when Pozzato ran into him) is back for MSR. Leipheimer will be back at Castile and Leon. Horner and Brajkovic will be back well before their peak to their season, the Ardennes. And if you read all of Lance's Bert tweets, he's being supportive of The Accountant. Their season was not derailed by Paris-Nice, a race that Contador wasn't planning to win pre-season so the fact that he dominated the TT and the big climb will mean more in the long run than the stage seven bonk.
6. Cervelo Kool-Aid: Crafty veteran team will steal the limelight from their more hyped rivals all year.
Reality: Crafty and veteran they are, true. But the tricks they pulled early on in their wins won't pan out as the season plays out. Thor is still remarkably slow for a sprinter. In fact Haussler might be a better bet.
However this team will still get more than it's share of the wins as they are also remarkably multi-dimensional. That's a deep cobbles team they have, in many ways very similar to Columbia's. Right now I place them behind only Quickstep and Rabobank in cobbles prowess. Then once Sastre wakes up they have a decent Grand Tour team too. Not the best but not Lotto-esque (Cattle and his un-merry nameless dwarves) in futility. They should leapfrog Astana in these rankings before the month is over (though they won't hold that high ranking over the summer).
7. Liquigas Kool-Aid Basso's back!!!!!! He's gonna sweep the Giro and Vuelta! He's the best stage racer in the world!
Reality: He does look back to my eyes. The question of is he the best remains to be seen. THAT'S WHY THEY PLAY THE GAMES. It's way to early to say if he's back to the dominance he showed pre-suspension. Otherwise the team is rounding into shape nicely. Benna has four wins already, second only to Cavendish. They'll be the team to beat at the Giro.
8. Caisse d'Epargne Kool-Aid: Lulu Sanchez! The next Indurain!
Reality: He may be very good- it's hard to tell since he's under Valverde's shadow- but the reality this year says that he peaked at Paris-Nice,he'll try to hold that peak through the Criterium International and after that he falls back and becomes a domestique. Thus what we saw at P-N was a rider who was having the most important ride of his season while the others (Contador, Schleck, Voigt, Evans, Monfort, Vandevelde, etc.) were all just in advanced training mode. Even Sanchez acknowledges this reality.
Now what might happen if/when Valverde gets suspended is anyone's guess. Compared to last year though this team is on a pretty similar trajectory. Last year Valverde won Murcia, Lulu placed 5th at Paris-Nice, and J-Rod won the Montelpeone stage at T-A. This year no Valverde at Murcia, but the other two results (along with JJ Rojas' various top 10 placings) are very similar. But their season waits the Valverde resolution...
9. Garmin Kool-Aid: We know what we are doing.
Reality: Vaughters isn't quite the mastermind that his glass frames purport but the team is stepping up in class nicely.
It hasn't been easy. A fair Qatar and a better California were followed by Dave Zabriskie's house being robbed, leaving Tom Danielson to not successfully lead the team at Murcia. But things started to turn for the better with Hesjedal's 10th at Eroica, Wiggins' 2nd at the P-N ITT, Vandevelde's P-N stage win, Hesjedal's 9th 8th (thx, nikki) on GC at T-A and Farrar's win and 2nd place also at T-A. They haven't really threatened for the win at a stage race, nor a major one day race yet but they're coming along nicely.
10. Francaise des Jeux Kool-Aid: Plucky little French team that lost it's best rider.
Reality: Hey! Not bad! Not bad at all!
In all probability they won't keep this high ranking but the early season has shown a versatility that keeps them interesting. Several of their riders have contested races: Roy, Hutarovich, Ladagnous, Casar, Veikkanen, and Sulzburger have all plastered themselves on the tee vee. Let's see if it continues.
11. Saxo Bank Kool-Aid: The Best Team In The World.
Reality: They are experiencing a little dip in performance as their young riders work to fill the gap left by their old guys. Plus the bench behind Cancellara in the spring classics is thin.
Can this be right? Saxo Bank hasn't won a race since California? Wow. No doubt that will change but you gotta admit that their cobbles team with it's strength-through-numbers strategy sure looks beatable without Spartacus in it. I might even favor a Vaitkus-led Astana team over this Kroon/Breschel/Arvesen-led Saxo team. L'ouch. And while Frank Schleck is looking like he's rounding into form nicely (with Jens! towing him along) the same can't yet be said about his little bro. Larsson's quiet. Kolobnev's yet to wake up from his winter hibernation. O'Grady and Arvesen are old. CA Sorensen, Breschel and Fuglsang are too young. Haedo's not good enough if he's looking at the tail ends of Greg Henderson and Graeme Brown at finish lines.
But I am making it out as worse than it is. Cancellara will get back. The kids are getting good experience- and they are good. The old guys (does age affect Jens! or does he just kick it in the balls?) still have some life in their legs. They'll be back, but this year is a down year.
12. Katusha Kool-Aid: You cant buy championships
Reality: There's brains behind that money.
Maybe not quite as successful as Cervelo, but they have gotten some good results, chiefly via the legs of Toni Colom. This Astana leftover is looking like a Grand Tour leader. He won't win, but he'll place for sure. The rest of the team has yet to meld though. Pozzato, McEwen, Dehaes, Steegmans: their time is rapidly approaching with MSR. Pfannenberger and Ivanov wait for the Ardennes. By the end of the Giro we'll know exactly how well this team meshes.
The rest of the teams are below in order just have pithy little phrases since they are the definition of "meh".
13. Acqua & Sapone- Garzelli got drilled by Rabobank at Murcia but recovered for Tirreno-Adriatico.
14. Skil Shimano: Hivert!
15. BBBBBBBBBBBox Bweeg!!! Voeckler had a P-N to forget about: poor tactics (where have I heard that before?) on stage 4 then crash with a broken shoulder on stage 5.
16. Liberty Seguros I wonder why they aren't at Castile and Leon as I would have liked to see Ruben Plaza face stiffer competition.
17. LPR- Killer looking like Killer.
18. Milram.
via www.lighthousemessenger.org
Not the worst Pro-Tour team!
19. Xacobeo-Galicia Zeke's getting up there in age. Give him a race to get his legs under him.
20. Cofidis Yes they still exist.
21. Vacansoleil Cobbles comin' up!
22. CSF Waiting for Sella.
23. ISD Are you sure Gio Visconti?
24. Lampre Done squat this year. Just imagine what teams below them are like.
25. Topsport Vlaanderen Well there's hope. Just a couple more words to their name and they can overtake SDA.
26. AG2R Have a stranglehold on 20th place in any- ANY! stage race.
27. Euskaltel Samu has a boo boo.
28. Ceramica Flaminia Wait till fall.
29. Fuji-Servetto ASO treating them like Astana last year. Will they respond like Astana? Ha!
30. Contentpolis-Ampo Paul Krugman the other day described Spain economically as the Florida of Europe. I can imagine several fewer regional teams and several fewer regional stage races next year. At least they ain't Greece or Ireland.
31. Barloworld No Tour. Pray for Giro.
32. House of Paint I just love this name.
33. Drew's team Waiting for a Flanders invite.
34. Hon's team The Quickstep of Quebec. Bitter, bitter enemies of Drew's team.
35. Chris' team Will ride you into a ditch just for laughs.
36. Kelly Slater He's good in most any kind of surf.
37. My cat, Ursula She was a great kitty.
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1,000,000. *Lotto Why do they exist?
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Finally some kool-aid diluting on Astana. Sheesh.
After all of the conspiracy theorists posting yesterday, it’s a relief to see someone give the ol’ cafe a reality check.
Injuries people, injuries. No conspiracy.
by ZoeRochelle on Mar 17, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't doing conspiracy...
I was doing psychoanalysis. Lance is an incurable egomaniac. Does anyone actually want to argue that?
by Ed K on Mar 17, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. I don't think I'd like to hang out with him.
But I do like to watch him race.
Bennati went but I was able to get past him quite easily.--Mark Cavendish, Tirreno-Adriatico Stage 7
by majope on Mar 17, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed watching him race
and would hang out with him anyday :-)
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on Mar 17, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's just a conspiracy theory
injuries, weak team, mistakes, yes. nothing wrong with that.
it is how they talked about it publicly afterwards, that part, really sad.
by rbjhan on Mar 17, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I tend to agree... even if LA may have recalibrated later...
There was an awful lot of blame it on Al coming out of Astana given all the rest of it. Watson’s thing was just beyond tasteless. It was sickening.
by Ed K on Mar 17, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and for Bert
I don’t see why he should put up with this…he tried to leave last year already
by rbjhan on Mar 17, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bert would actually be very stupid to throw a great big hissie fit and storm off...
Bad for rep and career if he did so, no matter how justifiable it might seem. Still, when the time is right I’d be surprised if he stays.
by Ed K on Mar 17, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh heh
pants.
I won’t argue with Lampre’s ranking so far, but they haven’t played a hand yet.
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris... on Mar 17, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Read
SexyBank will be back very soon, just wait and see… and Lotto, well c’mon Philippe and Thomas, I’m coming all the way from australia to see you guys do something, it better be what I want..
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on Mar 17, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Was" a great kitty?
Oh… oh no…
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
by crashdan on Mar 17, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*whew*... I mean... it's still tragic... but it's not immediate tragedy... oh fuck...
… did I mention that I had a stuffed California Black Bear named Ursula?
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
by crashdan on Mar 17, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, like, a real stuffed bear or one from a toyshop??
by Albertina on Mar 18, 2009 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please... it was a toy...
… I couldn’t fit the taxidermy one into my apartment…
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
by crashdan on Mar 18, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I had visions of this huge towering presence in your living room :-)
by Albertina on Mar 18, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's his ego you're thinking of
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
by Jens on Mar 18, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tee hee hee...
I was picturing him cuddled up with it on the couch. Some have cute little teddy bears, not Dan, oh no – that guy, he’s got the real thing. ha ha.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on Mar 18, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on... I have a cute ego...

My Id on the other hand…

Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
by crashdan on Mar 18, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That bear is soooo cute! I want one.
I have a slightly similar brown bear. I took him on the tube once (a long story) and he looked utterly hilarious sitting in his own seat. The other people in the carriage couldn’t stop staring at him. Here he is.
by Albertina on Mar 18, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a plaintive looking bear...
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
by crashdan on Mar 18, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks a bit like
a bear in a balaclava
by Monty. on Mar 19, 2009 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love all the reading here!
Great updates Ursula. :-) Ryder finished 8th I think though at T-A. Has anyone noted what is up with little man Andy? I have more reading to do tonight so maybe it’s in another post but I heard he nailed his knee and tore something. Thanks for great writes!!!
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on Mar 17, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Little man Andy is the grossly underperforming overhyped player on my VDS right now...
by Ed K on Mar 17, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've only got one?
Bennati went but I was able to get past him quite easily.--Mark Cavendish, Tirreno-Adriatico Stage 7
by majope on Mar 17, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wait, I got rid of him...
for Kreuzinger!
Oy
by Ed K on Mar 17, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sick, I believe
Could be wrong, but I think I saw Andy S was sick.
by gavia on Mar 18, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both sick and an owie on his knee, the right one I think
Nothing too serious, but his T-A campaign was slstopped because of it.
by ursula on Mar 18, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've since heard a rumor that the knee
isn’t so “not serious”. I can’t find anything printed anywhere though but I’ve heard he tore something in it.
Anyone else hear/read anything?
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on Mar 18, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I read the same...
I’ll see if i can find out :-)
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on Mar 18, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bjarne said Andy is OK
In this Danish article about Fränk’s injury
No longer that I call them tights, I call them freedom ware.
by TheFigurehead on Mar 19, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post, ursula--thanks for a terrific read!
Lotto. Damn. My VDS team has more wins than they do.
He has no charisma--Thomas Dekker, on Cadel Evans
by majope on Mar 17, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping Boonen sends up either...
Davis or Chava and one of the two builds such a lead, that Tommeke is forced to slow down the chase.
Racing for Victory and Free Beer!
by DemonCats on Mar 17, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Vaughters isn't quite the mastermind that his glass frames purport"
Priceless
Racing for Victory and Free Beer!
by DemonCats on Mar 17, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It depends on what you take Vaughters' goals to be...
Assembling a dominating team out of everyone else’s cast offs. Obviously not, and realistically was never going to happen only on that basis. Can they eventually be dominating with the right bits and pieces, possibly. In the next year or two, almost surely not.
Fielding a team that is competitive enough, while being both conspicuously clean and conspicuously supportive of its riders and generally someplace everyone seems happy to be, to have a real effect on the culture of the sport. He may be doing considerably better here. Though how long it lasts how wide the effect eventually becomes may not be known for a decade or more.
by Ed K on Mar 17, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
House of Paint is in Da House!!!
The House Of Pain’s the name of my clip
You can’t be down, punk, get off my dick
You make me sick, like strawberry Quik
Your style is wack, you ain’t the mac
Racing for Victory and Free Beer!
by DemonCats on Mar 17, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe you made me read that...
I mean… it’s classic… instant Podium Cafe classic… but did you really just rhyme your dick with strawberry quik?
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
by crashdan on Mar 17, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stoners and Strawberry Quik, man
you can’t truss it.
by Sui Juris on Mar 18, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woohoo!
I beat Chris
[shaking fist] I’ll get you next time Drew. Ce n’est pas fini entre vous et moi
"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten
by Hons on Mar 17, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
8 year old Dude.
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
by crashdan on Mar 17, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're just jelous
that your team didn’t make the cut.
"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten
by Hons on Mar 17, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kool-Aid Kool-Aid taste great, Cobbles Cobbles can't wait.
Sorry, could not resist.
Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.
by Josenka on Mar 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OH YEAHHHHH!!!!
Kool Aid Kid for those that don’t sling the lingo (I’m lookin’ at you Frinking).
Unfortunately, that was back in the seventies. Times changed for Kool Aid Kid, and not for the better…
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
by crashdan on Mar 17, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why do you
love child sexualization, Dan?
by Sui Juris on Mar 18, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guilty as hell..
Butt I was -20 in the seventies, although I copied the Beatles’ hair style..
Neverthless we have hamsters.. Also cool I admit.. They never gonna make it with THE Kool aid Kid ;)
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on Mar 18, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't the kool-aid they served at Jonestown is it?
because I don’t want that kool-aid to be honest with you. Oh and why u hatin on Platte River Ursula? It’s a nice River yo.
Jay Cutler is an ungrateful punk....but please don't trade him!
by Phil H. on Mar 17, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think
from Portugal, there will be Barbot-Siper in Volta Castila e Leon.
by semprenaroda on Mar 17, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just posted this on the Italian coverage post but I'd though I'd post here as well seeing it has do with MSR
I just read this from CTV on their Intertube
Cycling TV will be covering the Milan-San Remo
Cycling TV will be covering the Milan-San Remo live on the 21st March, with the usual as-live and highlights available on demand. This will be available to Giro/Gold North America subscribers.
Good news if true but I won’t be celebrating until I see it
Jay Cutler is an ungrateful punk....but please don't trade him!
by Phil H. on Mar 17, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was expecting Saxo to come bursting out of the gate this year
but from reading interviews with KAA among others I get the feeling the focus is on the BIG races this year. I don’t know if it’s spin but in a way it makes sense. Monument wins is what signs sponsors, not wins in P-N ,T-A, Het Watchamacallit and E3.
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
by Jens on Mar 18, 2009 4:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I was thinking a big start to the season too. Guess not. Of course Cancellara not getting hurt would have masked this slow start. But right now I’m more persuaded by certain Saxo forum writers who were talking transition year before the season started. There’s some serious young talent on this team that isn’t-quite- seasoned enough to make up for the long-int-the-tooth guys who just don;t quite have it anymore.
But maybe by mid-season those kids will have enough experience to make some noise. Fuglsang at least looked primed.
by ursula on Mar 18, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, transition year is absolutely right
but they still have some older names who can rack up the wins. They’ll need those guys to perform if they are going to get out of the economic hole they are in. They can’t really afford just to rebuild this season.
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
by Jens on Mar 18, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ja
That was also the case last year – they started slow and tried to collect big race wins. It’s startling, because it’s such a change from the early days of the team when they would come out swinging and collect every early season race in sight, in the hope of early headlines. I like Saxo Bank version 2.0 better – going big. They have some serious talent on that roster, no point in burning it up on the smaller races. Obviously, they couldn’t predict the patch of silly illness and injury they have going on right now.
In totally un-related news, Slater got owned in an Australian contest recently by a 17 year old.
by gavia on Mar 18, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well looks like Slater will move down the rankings list next time...
by ursula on Mar 18, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This might push him below Ursula. The horrors.
Any fun linkies of the event? We must check out this younin’ who’s spanked him. One off or real time competition…?
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on Mar 18, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That one's over
I’ll let ya know when viddy of the next contest is up, if you want.
The kid that beat Slates, Julian Wilson, is the real deal. Big talent, and has the head for contests, which isn’t always the case. He beat Slates in round 1 last year, then Slates beat him round 3. This time, b’bye to Slates. Good heat. Meh, I can’t direct link it. Too much flash. But viddy is at here, you want Round 3, heat 8. The Semifinal between Flanning and Parko was one for the ages!
Um, anyway, about that bike racing…
by gavia on Mar 18, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a cutie. He's all happy in his post interview. :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on Mar 18, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, yeah, very cute
Quicksilver are marketing the heck out of him, natch. Cute and can speak in complete sentences ;-)
by gavia on Mar 18, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gosh he is cute as well. But way too young so I must look away!
This surfing business….interesting
by Albertina on Mar 18, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An OK writeup, I guess :p
But isn’t it a bit daring to challenge Contador’s supporters arguments by saying he wasn’t in top form when pulling the P-N stunts?
And as a SAxo fan it would have been nice had you included their cases of injuries and illness too, plus O’Grady is is the one aiming for a second win in Paris-Roubaix(not Fabian).
Oh and the remarkable performance by Jakob Fuglsang when he pulled 80-90% of the time during Contador’s big escape.
:)
by OctaBech on Mar 18, 2009 6:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The real reason for Contador's downfall
In a private VDS league, Bert is on Drew’s team.
’Nuff said.
by ursula on Mar 18, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there it is.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on Mar 18, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OctaBech-
Yeah I love Fuglsang. He’s on my VDS team. I expect that fans will be trying to figure out how to pronounce that name for years.
Yeah I didn’t mention A Schelck’s illness, though I did mention Cancellara. Really they are going through a rough patch with luck and I don’t expect them to stay so low in the standings. It gave me the jitters putting them 11th. So low! But the standings don’t give breaks for illness and injury. Saxo’s got those and so they are ranked low. Quickstep is getting all the breaks so they are #1.
by ursula on Mar 18, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always have to supress the urge to call him 'Fugglesang'...
it sounds so much cuter ;-)
by Albertina on Mar 18, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you translate his name
you can call him “Birdsong” that is cute too
by LittleOldLady on Mar 18, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know! So poetic.
Like German people who are called Morgenstern…I think I’d like my name to be morning star
by Albertina on Mar 18, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than "fugly-san"
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
by crashdan on Mar 18, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I have riders in 21 of the first 31 teams mentioned above. That must be a good sign!
by Lopex on Mar 18, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's up with the kool-aid
Did I miss an inner circle joke or something? I don’t get it.
by Lopex on Mar 19, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what kool-aid is either....
a US thing?
by Albertina on Mar 19, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Explanation follows
When you are a fan of a rider or a team- any sport- and you are accused of drinking the kool-aid it means that you are taking the rationalizations and excuses of that rider or team with no critical thought at all.
For instance, let’s take two controversial riders. 1) Say you are a huge fan of Lance. Everything he does you love. And you believe all his explanations. You tow the party line basically. That would be called drinking the Lance kool-aid.
2) Or you believe say Basso’s explanations of OP completely. Kool-aid.
That’s not to say that what Lance or Basso or Quickstep or Lampre- whatever rider or team you support- says is wrong or right. It might well be right and a sane way to look at things. It’s just that you are very very inclined to believe whatever that team or rider say and you think other points of view are wrong.
That make sense?
by ursula on Mar 19, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, very much so: thanks!
Ich verstehe :-)
by Albertina on Mar 19, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Jonestown reference in the Wikipedia entry gets the key sense of it...
You’re almost suicidally nuts if you believe this.
by Ed K on Mar 19, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Do not drink the Kool-Aid"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid#.22Drinking_the_Kool-Aid.22
by tedvdw on Mar 19, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs


















