Ronde van het Groene Hart
by Lopex on Mar 22, 2009 4:14 AM EDT
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PrintToday will see the third edition of the Eneco Ronde van het Groene Hart (Round of the Green Heart). This race wants to show the world how beautiful Holland's so-called green heart is. This is the more or less rural/agricultural area right in between the ring of cities that form the Randstad. Since this race passes right through my home town I think it deserves some PdC love, even though it’s not a VDS race.
More on the flip.
The riders will ride 204 km on a pancake flat course. A sprinter will probably win here with Graeme Brown, Gert Steegmans, Danilo Napolitano and Robert Forster being the top contenders. Outsiders could be Wim Stroetinga, Roy Sentjes, Bobby Traksel or Frank Vandenbroucke (just kidding).
All information can be found on the, Dutch only, race website. It says live coverage will be on starting 15.00 hour local time. I’m not sure if this will be geo-restricted. The race passes through my hometown within the first hour so you don’t have to be on the lookout for PdC signs on the road I’m afraid. I’ll try to get some picture online later though.
Yesterday part of the course was used in a recreational ride honouring one of our most celebrated riders. The Joop Zoetemelk classic attracted more than 2000 recreational riders and the old man himself gave the start sign.
via www.rondevanhetgroenehart.nl
Joop is the man on the right. The other guy is a local politician responsible for sport.
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Jooooooop!
Old snabbelaar. Don’t know the engilsh word.. If a celberty goes to all sort, and I mean all sort of parties/tv shows/radio things/concerts in exchange of some money.. 1 VDS points for me when you guess the word :)
But back to het Groene hart.. Put my money on Brown
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
"sellout"?
“capitalist”? Just guessing really.
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 22, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
though he did win Amstel Gold at age 40!
I’d probably take all the money they gave me for that too! ;)
by plinytheelder on Mar 22, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the suggestions!
Don’t think there/their is a word for it.. Maybe sellout is close
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
with the rides he put in?
I’m glad if he can turn it into PR and free beer for a few decades. Heck, I’d buy him one, just to say I did.
I'd like to steggles get up and show us some riding!
as for the politician he looks like an american actor trying to figure it out..
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
Cyclingfans have live tickers and video
Oh and Lopex, Since I’m driving to amstel in the mornig, Can you tell me where is the best place to go to?? Start finish, mountain.. Just somewhere easy to drive too… I’m still thinking I amy get a hotel in Maastricht.. not sure yet
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
Cyclingfans
Refers to the same website.
I’d have to have a look at the AGR course to give you hints about best places to go to. I guess you can’t go wrong with the Cauberg/finish.
Steegmans is out
Back problems.
We had 2 men in an escape but a closed railway crossing barred their way to glory.
I saw them live!
I went to have a look with my 3-year old son. Nice way to introduce him to cycling. He has cheered me on in the past during local races but the many policemen and the helicopter made this a thrilling experience for him.
They were going fast so it was difficult to discern any individual riders. A lot of Skil-Shimano up front pacing. Trying to reel in the break of two guys from national teams.
It’s somehow a surreal experience. Normal life is stopped for a few minutes, the cyclists whisk by, and life continues. Most spectators only happen to be there and don’t know what’s going on. Funny.
Lead group
Leading group of riders
De volgende renners vormen de kopgroep: Brown, Martens, Stamsnijder (allen Rabobank), Elijzen, Gardeyn (beiden Silence-Lotto), Forster, Knaven, Muller, Stroetinga (Milram), Traksel, Van Groen, Vierhouten, Mol, Westra, Mouris (allen Vacansoleil), Omloop, Capelle (beiden Palmans-Cras), Vreugdenhil, Van Zandbeek, Kreder (allen Van Vliet-EBH-Elshof), Bos (Jo Piels) en Hagenaars (KrolStonE). The following riders are the leading group: Brown, Martens, Stamsnijder (all Rabobank) Elijzen, Gardeyn (both Silence-Lotto), Forster, Knaven, Muller, Straw Tinga (Milram), Traksel, Van Groen, Vierhouten, Mol, Westra, Mouris (all Vacansoleil), Circulation, Capelle (both Palmans-Cras), Vreugdenhil, Van Zandbeek, Kreder (all Van Vliet-EBH-Elshof), Bos (Jo Piel) and Hagenaars (Krol Stone).
Straw Tinga? Google Translator on a roll! Stroetinga is the name.
Brown?
Rabo Captain?? Sounds like that’s the first place to look for a favorite.
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 22, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
weather much better today than last year
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
if i remember correctly, the sbs6 site would have an as-live replay later...
they did for the eneco tour last year
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
It's on now,
click here for the live race.
"I don't expect the victories to come rolling off like they did in 2008. It just won't happen.....I can't just turn up to something like Milan-SanRemo and win it." -Mark Cavendish, CycleSport American, March 2009.
missed most of it, was looking to maybe catch a replay, if possible, later
forgot to check cyclingfans site when i first got up.. duh
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Mar 22, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Watched the last 30 mins
Flat as a table but the crosswinds and headwinds looked hard. I was surprised to see Omloop take the sprint over Brown.
"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."
by Rolls on Mar 22, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
Offficial result
1: Omloop (Palmans-Cras)
2: Brown (Rabobank)
3: Vierhouten (Vacansoleil)
4: Forster (Milram)
5: Traksel (Vacansoleil)
6: Westra (Vacansoleil)
7: Muller (Milram)
8: Mouris (Vacansoleil)
9: Stroetinga (Milram)
10: Mol (Vacansoleil)
11: Martens (Rabobank)
12: Van Groen (Vacansoleil)
13: Van Zandbeek (Van Vliet-EBH-Elshof)
14: Stamsnijder (Rabobank)
15: Knaven (Milram)
Nice result for Geert Omloop. He was voted the most aggressive rider and won the sprint while he clearly was not the favorite in the 7-men front group.
Evaluating my preview
4 of the 7 riders I named made it to the top-10. Not bad.
What on earth was Katusha doing here?
Your wagering was pretty good I'd say!
Katusha: Trying to get Steegmans some training for bigger races? Didn’t work out too well. Clearly they know I chose him for VDS and they are just messin’ with me in advance by having him DNF today.
"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."
by Rolls on Mar 22, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, I won't mention him anymore, lol. Buggin' me too!
I thought for sure he’d gather some good solid top 5’s early season. NAAAH.
"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."
by Rolls on Mar 22, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Gert did only score in two races last year.
80 points in Paris-Nice and 115 at the Tour. Okay, he has to add a third race this year to earn his cost (needs 267 points), but it’s early days yet.
(In other words…yeah, he’s on my team, too. But I’m an optimist.)
One of the sweetest things today was seeing Tom Boonen go past me backwards on the climbs. .--Mark Cavendish, MSR
Mmmm....
Somehow though I think many of us (me at least) thought he’d be a bit more of a leader, and thus scoring more, with the new team and all…
Yeah, ursula's "likely outcome" was 500+ points.
But, like I said, it’s early, and he was sick in Paris-Nice. Still time to rake in some points.
One of the sweetest things today was seeing Tom Boonen go past me backwards on the climbs. .--Mark Cavendish, MSR
VDS points
1: Omloop (Palmans-Cras) 0
2: Brown (Rabobank) 0
3: Vierhouten (Vacansoleil) 0
4: Forster (Milram) 0
5: Traksel (Vacansoleil) 0
6: Westra (Vacansoleil) 0
7: Muller (Milram) 0
8: Mouris (Vacansoleil) 0
9: Stroetinga (Milram) 0
10: Mol (Vacansoleil) 0
Heh.
That’s pretty funny!
"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."
by Rolls on Mar 22, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish Vacansoleil would take this race more seriously and not just mail it in
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Silence-Lotto vs Katusha
Silence-Lotto clearly won this contest by placing their first man in 17th position at 7,49 and losing only one rider to the dreaded DNF.
Katusha’s top finisher came in 20th and saw 5 riders hit the brakes early.
Vacansoleil really went all out today, too bad they lacked a sprinter to finish the job.
I dunno, I think VS were slacking...
There are two of those lazy slobs who didn’t make the top 10, aren’t there?
Are Vacansoleil getting to ride the races they expected?
They’re not written much about in english-language media so I’m wondering. Did they go into the season expecting to be invited everywhere or are they happy to compete in lower level races and build their team?
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
They got some good invites...
…but got booted from MSR in favor of Fuji, right? Was that them? Someone did.
Yep
That was them.
They are invited to all Dutch and Belgium races if I remember correctly. Also in dRvV.
So what for race is the RvV if it's not Belgium or Dutch?!
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
It's just the most important Dutch/Flemish race
So if they get invited there, they’ll get invited anywhere. It’s up to them, Vacansoleil! VACANSOLEIL!!!
The RvV?! Never heard of it..
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
"Oh come up, say! I have there enough of."
RVV is een angli- dan wel flandricisme :) Nederlanders schrijven ‘van’ met een kleine letter.
Allez votre corridor.
Dit es een drama
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
is Jens.. is...
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Oy. I'm worse than Chris
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Lol... I though you did that express...
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
on purpose..
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
thought.. Aaah.. Hate that stupid English..
I vote Podiumcafe going Dutch!
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
We each pay for ourselves?
That’s what “going Dutch” means in English. Er, which, come to think of it, is probably a slur. Sorry about that.
One of the sweetest things today was seeing Tom Boonen go past me backwards on the climbs. .--Mark Cavendish, MSR
Haha don't worry..
Knew what it meant but didn’t think of it while I wrote it… We are well-known about sitting on our money.. I think we are the country where their/there are as many shops as discount actions… People going wild when they can spare for discount of some rubbish..
But back to the original plan.. Everyone has t learn Dutch.. It communicates a lot easier you know ;)
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Okay, my first post in Dutch
Succes met dat.
One of the sweetest things today was seeing Tom Boonen go past me backwards on the climbs. .--Mark Cavendish, MSR
Funny thing is
In Holland an American party is an occasion where everybody brings his own food and drinks.
I had to read that like a dozen time to understand what their stood....
But.. Don’t get the meaning of it..
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
wait...sarcasm or no?
de ronde van vlandeern. you get that right?
Haha I get the Ronde van Vlaanderen thing..
But tedvdvdv post is like a puzzle…
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Yeah, I didn't quite get that either...
Just making sure.
Think he is Belgian..
Does that sat enough..
(ok I have to quit saying not so nice things about natives..)
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
(if that's the right word
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
He says it is Flemish to use RVV for Ronde Van Vlanderen
Or an anglicism taken from Flemish. Because the Dutch use a small v for “van.” Thus RvV not RVV. (That’s based on using “van” in names? I know we’ve seen the same name written both ways, either capitalized and separate from the main part of the name, and small letter / run together with the main name.)
Sorry, it was more of a tease than really true,
because no one in their right mind would write RvV. But still, Dutch titles (books, songs, events, whatever) should normally NOT be all capitalised like they they are in English. Only the first letter is a capital, not the first letter of every word. ‘Vlaanderen’ of course does need a capital because it’s a name.
You’re right about people names: usually the interjections in Dutch names are in lowercase: Ricardo van der Velde. If only the last name is used, the first word is in uppercase: Van der Velde. Usually in Flanders they concatenate all parts of the name: Willy Vandersteen. When they don’t, usually every part has a capital: Mark Van Lombeek.
Phew.
Oh kom op zeg! Ik heb er genoeg van.
En de afsluiter was: ga uw gang. (Bij de weg, ik ben ’ne ’Ollander.)
Ok I bet...
The last part of that, the part in parentheses, says something unkind about Dutch people.
Ahh!
I’ve used ‘english-dutch’ translators on Flemish and they work pretty well. They’re very similar, no? Almost like regional dialect differences but essentially the same language, correct?
Yes.
The official language of Holland and Flanders is the same: Dutch. Just like the official language of Wallonia is French but it sounds a bit different from what you hear at the Elysée.
Certainly all the editorial (though not necessarily forum/chat) pieces on websites from Flanders are in ‘normal’ Dutch so would not pose a problem for Dutch-English translators.
Ahhhhhhhhh!
This I did not know. It all makes sense now.
To my ears, with the distinct r's
Flemish is to Nederlands Dutch as Marseille french is to Paris french. And a strong accent has a more sing-song quality (especially compared to, say a more northern, Groenings Dutch accent, which is quite flat in tone). Like Schwyzerdütsch vs. German. When I overhear a strong Belgian accent (or maybe it’s a particular part of Belgium?), I think I’m hearing a Swiss dialect until I start to pick out Dutch words. Maastricht Dutch actually has quite a bit of inflection too (again, to my foreign ear). I have to admit (shamefully) that in some ways I find the slower, more sing-song quality of Flemish easier to follow than the Nederlands Dutch of my husband / husband’s family. (There, I said it.)
Mutually comprehensible but very different at a level comparable to Indian english vs. US english.
What?
Maastricht Dutch? Don’t let the Sjengen there hear you. Limburgian is an official language! Nobody knows what it is exactly, with people from different parts of this tiny province having difficulties understanding each other, but it is a language!
Aaah I think I get it...
But you used google.nl/translate for ‘gang’? A corridor is a hall.. Or that’s what I’ve learned and welcome! Enjoy my lonely battle to take over the place ;)
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
No, didn't use Google
“Allez votre corridor” is a well-known (or is it?) humorous phrase in Dutch. But now that I did us Google, I found http://weblogs3.nrc.nl/woordhoek/2007/07/09/doe-je-ding/ (read the comments! some are hilarious) and http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frans_met_haar_op
Haha I finally get it...Instoelez-vous (Ga zitten) and Snappez vous? (Snappie?) are pretty funny
Thanks! But think it’s a genaration gap, that’s what google give me. I’m 20 so never were arround in the ‘70.. Altough I know one hilarious, or funny steenkolen, you can’t litterally translate that to stone coal?! I pressume ;)) English phrase..
After a meal:
I like to thank the cock..
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
oh my
(resist urge to respond resist urge to respond)
by plinytheelder on Mar 24, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha Plz respond!
Hate censure
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
nooooo
I am completely ignorant of what she may or may not have said
by plinytheelder on Mar 24, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
all this cocktalk reminds me of the one and only time I went to Holland, with my basketball team during high school, we went to play a few exhibition games. On our first night in Amsterdam, we stayed in a place called the Cok Hotel – no joke! (You can imagine the fun a bunch of 16- and 17-yr-olds had with that.) The only problem was the Cok caught fire that night – again, no joke – an electrical fire, so not many flames but plenty of smoke. Me and some of my teammates were on the 2nd or 3rd floor, can’t remember, what I do remember is that it was next to impossible to breathe. Sooner or later the fire dept. showed up and we escaped to safety through the window and down a ladder. Made the front page of the local papers! Also, every time we blew our noses for the next few days it was all black. And a good time was had by all!
by plinytheelder on Mar 24, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
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