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Cobbles Power Poll... Updated!

Powerpoll_mediumThe first version of this ran on March 2, and set the baseline as follows:

  1. Quick Step
  2. Saxo Bank
  3. Rabobank
  4. Silence! Lotto
  5. Columbia
  6. Lampre
  7. Cervelo
  8. Katusha
  9. Milram
  10. Liquigas

Since then, there have been several major changes: startling results, injuries and illnesses, Katusha changed its official anglicized spelling, and so forth. Which makes for a drastically altered ranking: (previous ranking)

1. (1) Quick Step ↔

Well... except at the top. We have had three VDS-scored (re: important) races in Belgium so far and Quick Step have held serve in two of them, including today's schooling of the peloton. Not only did Boonen & co put three men in the final break, but two of them were the reigning champions of Paris-Roubaix and the Tour of Flanders. So are you going to focus on Kevin Van Impe? The nice thing for Lefevre is that Dwars isn't exactly their world championship, so Quick Step could afford to take a chance on Van Impe sealing the deal, which saves the burning of more precious matches, and results in even better team harmony (and tactics) when in fact KVI pulls it off. Could this have gone any better?

Rest of the Top Ten... on the flip:

Star-divide

2. (3) Rabobank ↑

Still probably pining for a finisher, and I love Boonen's comment today about hoping to finish off the race considering their having numbers up the road: "We had the numbers, but didn't want to do what Rabobank did in the Omloop Het Nieuwsblad." Ouch. When your rivals are calling you out by name for chasing down your own breaks, you're not off to a great start. Still, Graeme Brown has been terrific, albeit in smaller events, winning Nokere-Koerse and taking second in the Ronde van het Groene Hart. Nuyens, Langeveld and Flecha are all flying right now. Hayman was solid today. All the pieces (except Freire) are in place.

3. (7) Cervélo Test Team ↑

I know someone will insist I switch them with Rabo, but it's important to distinguish individual results from team strength. The Knights of é are on fire right now, but I for one am wondering where this is headed. First, Haussler needs to keep his cool and get used to being worked over when Quick Step have riders on all sides of him. His effort today was valiant, but foolish. Why dig that deep for Dwars, when you're completely boxed in, and when there are three weeks left of cobbled races? I salute his form, but it won't last forever, and it really won't last forever if he keeps going vollgas every time he gets on the bike. Someone get him a race calendar. Next Hushovd: also going well, but he can't count on more last-km crashes or genuine sprinters' events from here on. Nice to see that Klier was in the early break; he needs to do more than just rack up quiet placings. Rollin and Hammonds are guys to watch.

4. (5) Team Columbia-High Road ↑

Marcus Burghardt, Marcel Sieberg and Bernhard Eisel were all patrolling the front today until Haussler's attacks shattered the elite chase group. Hincapie's work in San Remo was a great statement of his head and heart. Cavendish is almost certain to win any race where we think he can make the finale. I will be very curious to see how they find places for Boasson Hagen or Martin to do something. Anyway, they have the same cohesion as before, the year's first monument in their pocket, and two viable captains for the cobbles. So far, so good.

5. (4) Silence-Lotto ↓

Today was a good opportunity for Van Avermaet, but a crash more or less ruined his day. Fortunately for team morale Cadel Evans is stretching his legs in Italy, so they can point to something that has gone right. They still have a deep cobbles team, and it's too early to write them off, but the temperature in the team car is starting to rise, as it so often does in March/April.

6. (2) Saxo Bank ↓

Guests of honor at the pity party: losing Fabian Cancellara for most of the classics and Stuart O'Grady for all of them is cruel fate indeed. OK, Cancellara may return in time to contest his ideal race, Paris-Roubaix, but we shall see whether he can get his mojo back in time. Riis still has Arvesen and Kroon as his main weapons, plus the usual arsenal of competent guys like Hoj or Goss or Bak, but this is a big dropoff. I would be shocked if they won anything on the cobbles circuit this year. [UPDATE] Cancellara is racing at the Settimana Coppi e Bartali, so for now it's a question of how much form he can recover.

7. (8) Team Katyusha ↑

Pippo Pozzato has been frisky, and Robbie McEwen won't go away, but they need to squeeze some results out of Gert Steegmans in order to shine this season. They can't count on guys like DeHaes, Swift, Joan Horrach or Antonio Colom to excel here. Not sure where this is headed.

8. (9) Milram ↑

The Terpstra-Velits tandem is growing ever more interesting, with either one or the other getting into contention regularly. But the races keep getting harder, and young riders are at a distinct disadvantage. Hopefully Gerald Ciolek will join in the excitement soon.

9. (6) Lampre ↓

The other pity party guest, losing Alessandro Ballan to the Curse of the Rainbow really put a damper on their spring. Or, well, the non-Cunego half of it. Gasparotto and Spilak are now fighting for their own placings, which isn't hopeless, but the job just got a lot harder.

10. (--) Skil-Shimano

Right now I would put Koen de Kort, Johnny Hivert, Kenny Van Hummel, et al, up against anything Liquigas has to offer. Welcome to the show, guys.

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I'd like to be the first goober to insist!

That so far, Cervelo should be above Rabo. Results are key, strength on paper is just that! Nuyens might kick it into another gear soon for Rabo, but until then, man are they ever playing poor poker with a great hand.

"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."

by Rolls on Mar 25, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

To their defense

They had a lot of bad luck today. 3 punctures on really bad moments. Haymann in the break and de Tank and Posthuma just when the race lit up. Quite a few of them fell and Tjallinga needed an new bike on the Eikenberg when someone damaged his gear system.

Still, Nuyens should have paid attention and Langeveld could have used some warmer clothing.

by Lopex on Mar 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silenece-Lotto? who the hell are they? Have they been racing in these races?

are they Bulgarian? I ask because they have been riding like I would expect a team from Bulgaria to ride on cobbles.

"It’s disappointing. Second place is the first loser."
~Heinrich Haussler (GERMANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Cervélo TestTeam

by Phil H. on Mar 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The main reason that Lotto is 5th

No other team is seriously challenging for the spot.

Really, the gap below 4th place Columbia is huge.

And I can see Rabo above Cervelo. It’s close though and possibly Rabo not pushing so hard to day means they are saving something that Cervelo might have when the biog races start.

by ursula on Mar 25, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Well is it a power poll on who has been the best or who talent wise is the best

because I wouldn’t argue that Lotto are the 5th best cobbles team out there, but when it comes to results, then I would rank them beneath the depths of hell.

"It’s disappointing. Second place is the first loser."
~Heinrich Haussler (GERMANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Cervélo TestTeam

by Phil H. on Mar 25, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The concept

while admittedly a tad squishy, is who will have the best overall cobbles season. So it’s a bit of what’s happened so far, and a bit of looking ahead to how teams are gearing up. Let’s face it: all we have had so far is Het whatever, KBK, Nokere-Koerse and Dwars. I’d say if, oh, Vacansoleil wins the E3 Prijs, they would pass Quick Step for best season so far, simply because the E3 is a much bigger race than anything to date. But we don’t know what will happen, other than it won’t be Ballan.

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Vacansoleil

they’ve been getting their faces on camera a lot too.

by Monty. on Mar 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK

I was rushed on the last slot, if you can argue them past Skil Shimano, I’m all ears.

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 25, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now I take a closer look at their actual results ......

there’s nothing there to say that yes, it has been a good season, well apart from the Ronde van het Groene Hart, when their would be Milan San Remo squad took out their frustration and put six riders in the top twelve, but I’ve been surprised how many times this season that they have had two or three men in the decisive move of the day. Not the early, losers-up-the-road-while-everyone-else-has-their-lunch break, the later breaks that decide the races. Tactically they and whoever their DS is seem to read the races very well, they just don’t have riders with the legs to finish it off, so end up with lots of 18th and 20th places on the day. In contrast Skil Shimano have a couple of good finishers, but there seems to be some element of chance that decides whether or not they join the right attacks. And I don’t remember seeing Topsport Vlaanderen at all.

Alternatively they have just been very lucky in the early races and we’ll never see them again. It’s probably far too early to be making this sort of call.

by Monty. on Mar 25, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baden Cooke

Has not been able to participate in Belgium races yet. A pity, since he is a former Dwars winner.

by Lopex on Mar 26, 2009 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry for the confusion

but why is Cancellara out?

"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 25, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

He wants to give other people time to win things.

He’s a giver.

Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?

by crashdan on Mar 25, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He bought training advice from Cycling.tv

No longer that I call them tights, I call them freedom ware.

by TheFigurehead on Mar 25, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

Their answers are funnier, but he had a training crash. He skipped Sanremo, but I think he’s at the Settimana Coppi e Bartali trying to get some form. He’s hoping to pull it together well enough for the Ronde and Paris-Roubaix, but it’s going to be a close-run thing. Don’t bet the house or anything.

by Jen See on Mar 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orrr...

He could be lying low. Yeah- no doubt he was sick, and he was injured… buuuut…. as I recall, at the start of the season last year he won nearly every damn race he started (or at least it seemed that way, LOL)…weeellll… he doesn’t have such a huge bullseye on his back right now, does he? Hey – I could be wrong…

by Lou... on Mar 26, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah

I see he’s racing again. OK, he’s feverishly trying to recover his form after illness and a crash. I gather now he will start the big races, but we shall see if he’s back to his old self.

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

ja, pretty much

Could go either way, I s’pect.

by Jen See on Mar 25, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's on the RvV startlist

But that’s his first on cobbles, I guess it’s in preparation for P-R.

No longer that I call them tights, I call them freedom ware.

by TheFigurehead on Mar 25, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The "Knights of é"

Niiiiiiiiice. Should we bring Haussler a shrubbery?

Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?

by crashdan on Mar 25, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe when Boonen and Haussler were talking

Tomke just kept yelling IT…hence the \o/

"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten

by Hons on Mar 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

and when they transition to their grand tour squad they will be the Knights who say Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG. Zoom-Boing. Z’nourrwringmm…right?

"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten

by Hons on Mar 25, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't need to.

I think Hammond is a shrubber.

(Roger the shrubber).

right click, refresh

by swells on Mar 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Breschel could "tie the room together" for Saxo-Bank.

He may have been overlooked in the powerpoll, but these are races that would suit him and he can handle his own in a sprint. He might not win a monument but he’s got a fighting chance in other cobbled races.

by brunopitton on Mar 25, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn't we see him...

… getting dropped from the peloton pretty early today? Might have been someone else on Saxo, but I thought it was Breschel. I seem to remember Anthony (Ctv) saying he was surprised to see him getting dropped so soon.

by Noah on Mar 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes but...

Didn’t he have a mech or some other problem today? I thought I recalled that too.

by Ed K on Mar 25, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope that was it.

I like him, so I hope it was just a mechanical. I don’t think they said what the cause was when I was watching, but I had a CyL stream going at the same time. Between the two languages and entirely different weather, I probably missed a lot…

by Noah on Mar 25, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

From @mcewenrobbie

“not, not good or below average or bad, but embarassingly terrible. we need to redeem ourselves”

by tedvdw on Mar 26, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

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