Make It A Double: Cunego Wins Again!
Damiano Cunego of Lampre-NGC won today his second stage in a row at the Settimana Coppi e Bartali. The stage covered a hilly 163.4 kilometers between Borgo San Lorenzo and Serramazzoni. Cunego won from a group of eight riders ahead of Cadel Evans of Silence-Lotto and Christian Pfannberger of Katusha, who proved unable to match Cunego's finishing speed. The Italian also took over the jersey of race leader, after Giovanni Visconti failed to make the selection on the final climb of the day.
After 18 kilometers of racing, an early break departed the main field. The break came just before the bunch finished four laps on a five kilometer circuit. Thirteen riders comprised the early move: Mario Aerts of Silence-Lotto (marking the move for Cadel Evans), Paolo Tiralongo of Lampre-NGC (ditto for Damiano Cunego), Kjell Carlstrom of Liquigas, Danilo Napolitano of Team Katusha (riding for Christian Pfannberger, Jurgen Van Goolen of Team Saxo Bank, Kanstantsin Sivtsov of Columbia-High Road, Matteo Montaguti of Lpr Farnese Vini, John Lee Augustyn of Barloworld, Marco Frapporti of Csf Group Navigare, Eddy Ratti of Amica Chips Knauf, Luca Celli of Diquigiovanni Androni, Maxim Belkov of ISD (marking the move for Visconti), and Enrico Rossi of Ceramica Flaminia. The break soon hit first and longest climb of the day, the Passo della Futa, approximately 800 meters of climbing over 15 kilometers. With the difficulty of the course clearly in mind, the main field granted the break little space to play.
The incessant climbing and descending took their toll on the thirteen member break, and soon only Enrico Rossi of Ceramica Flaminia and Marco Frapporti of CSF-Naviagare remained. The duo held a maximum gap of 4 minutes, before the combined efforts of race leader Giovanni Visconti's ISD team and Cunego's Lampre-NGC began to whittle down their advantage. On the short, steep climb of the Pavullo nel Frignano with 30 kilometers to ride, Frapporti lost the wheel of Rossi. Kanstantin Sivtsov of Columbia-High Road and Felix Cardenas soon joined Rossi and the group of three held just 16 seconds over the main field led by Lampre-NGC as they entered the first circuit at Serramazzoni.
With ten kilometers left to ride, only Cardenas remained of the breakaway. The bunch soon ended his hopes. Entering the final lap of the hilly finishing circuit, Christian Pfannberger of Katusha attacked the main field. Seven riders found the legs to follow the Austrian. The race winning move included Pfannberger, Cunego, Evans, Michael Rogers of Columbia-High Road, Robert Kiserlovski of Amica Chips Knauf, Gianpaolo Caruso of Ceramica Flaminia, Pierpaolo Tondo of Miche Silver Cross and Miguel Angel Rubiano Chavez of Centri della Calzatura Marche. Behind, the group of race leader Giovanni Visconti chased hard, holding the gap at 15 seconds.
In the final kilometer, Cadel Evans attempted to anticipate the sprint. A wise choice, given the killer finishing speed of Cunego. The Italian countered the Evans attack, and took the stage win. Pfannberger finished third. Cunego also took over the lead in the general classification and the points classification.
After the stage, Cunego praised his team, for doing "everything they could possibly do." "The escape of 13 was dangerous," he explained, but he had confidence that his team could control the race. The Italian looks to be on screaming form for the upcoming Ardennes races.
Cadel Evans certainly thinks so. "Cunego is nearly at his maximum form, I am not yet," said the Australian. "Today, I wanted to win the stage, because between the unfortunate team time trial [where Silence-Lotto struggled with mechanicals and crazy weather] and yesterday with the escape of Cunego, it has gone badly," he explained. Evans attempted to pre-empt the sprint, but Cunego proved able to match his move, and better it. "I think that the tactic was right: The first attack to make the selection, the second to win. But I waited too long."
Fourth placed Robert Kiserlovski of Amica Chips also sees Cunego as the strongest. He's just happy to be there. "I am very happy to be among those at the front... I am only 22 years old," he said. Kiserlovski leads the young rider's clasification. Also clearly on form is Christian Pfannberger of Katusha. Pfannberger rode fabulously at last year's World Championship road race in Varese, and should have good form come the Ardennes.
Tomorrow's stage is flat, flat, flat, covering Massa 162.8 kilometers Finalese to Finnale Emilia, where an eight lap circuit awaits. A day for the sprinters.
Tuttobicweb should have full results listed soon. But they don't yet. Alas. Post-race quotes from Gazzetta dello Sport.
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Yay!!
The Kid is back. :)
Poor Evans, if he can’t get a chrono, he can’t win. Italians aren’t the best stage racers, but they do tend to know how to finish off a climb.
Speaking of which, I suspect this is all we can learn of Cunego, which we already knew. Seems like this time of year he starts getting dialed in, wins a few climbing stages, and everyone starts talking up his chances in the Giro. I am pretty sure he isn’t going to win the Giro.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 26, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
At the moment,
I’m more interested in whether he can win Liège ;-)
This stage – and the Settimana in general – is perfect prep for the Ardennes. None of these stages are mountanous – just the kind of climb early, climb often, bumpiness you get in the Ardennes races. He’s looking great for that.
Very interested to see how Pfannberger rides there this year, too.
Secret? Cunego as a secret Ardennes weapon?
Humm….
I think the secret may be out.
Read Gatto lost the leader jersey..
It would be wrong and indeed Yay!!
Let’s let him kick some ass.. It would be nice..
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And Sivsov in the breakaway!
Having him in the VDS is gonna be fun…
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Absentees
Curiously absent from the results this week: Michele Scarponi, who looked on great form at Sanremo and Danilo Diluca, who should ride well on this sort of terrain.
I don't think Di Luca is there.
He disappeared from the starting lists the day this race started, at least on a couple of sites. Haven’t checked the official site, though.
Right, also:
Scarponi not there either … Sorry for leading you astray! I swear he was on the provisional start list.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2009/mar09/coppibartali09/default
Why shouldn't he feel confident about winning the Giro?
Throw out the dopers, Basso and DiLuca, and only two riders scheduled to participate in the Giro come May who have ever tasted victory there will be Cunego and Simoni. Leipheimer, for all his time trialing skills, has never won the Giro, he finished a distant 18th last year. Perhaps he’s just not a Giro man, some guys riding styles aren’t conducive to the steeper moutains of the Giro, and perhaps Leipheimer falls in that category. Leipheimer is a fine cyclist but I don’t think that anyone can confidently predict he’s talking the win
continued….with all the top riders (Kloden, Contador, Leipheimer) on equal terms. The leader was determined once it became apparent that Contador was superior to the other two. I’m not saying Leipheimer’s preparation was ideal, because it obviously wasn’t, but I thought it was telling that he never find good form, even in the final week of the race. Again, I just think a rider of his type might be better suited to the Tour than the Giro. Now of course Levi will win by a wide margin. :)
Sure I'l ltake the bait
As the Leipheimer Apologist I’d say his ascent of the Angrilu last year more than equals anything that this Giro will throw at him in terms of steepness. Cunego was 1: 38 behind the little bald dwarf even though Leipheimer was riding for Contador. Then the next stage, the Invierno, also as good as anything the Giro will throw at the riders this year, Leipheimer, again sacrificing himself for Contador, finished 5:59 ahead of The Kid. So I don’t know where the idea that Leipheimer can’t climb came from, but it’s a silly notion. And Leipheimer will kill Cunego on the TT’s.
Not sure I’d write Killer or Basso off either. Basso- we aren’t sure what he’ll do. But Di Luca? Showed awfully well last year. He definitely has a chance. Like Cunego, Di Luca needs to overcome his normal one or two bad stages to win. Leipheimer used to be like that but since going to Astana he’s become more consistent.
Much hopes are built up
Bald dwarves cannot fill big shoes
The bear cries in May
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
I lance rides the Giro..
Leiphi win.. If not.. The pressure is too much for him
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He's not on Rabo anymore
He has better support now, physically and mentally. Also he’s a lot older and wiser than he was then. Back then he let all the dumbassery from the team get to him.
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I admit..
Rabo is not good for your career but I think you exaggarate.. 8th and 9th.. It isn’t extremely good but not that bad.. The other year he chrashed in the first stage.. So I think he wouldn’t do better if he had a better team arround him… I remember a stage he attacked and they got ride of him on a steep mountain.. (Woow.. That wasn’t clear but OK)
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exaggerate?
Just look what happened with good ’ol Rass.
They were what, 4 days away winning the Tour and yet again they screwed it up.
Rabo is loaded with huge talents, there’s no doubt about it.
How they manage the blow the races apart and still lose is a mystery.
They do..
But they did a good job with rasmussen.. Maybe the explanation is they have A riders.. But their is always an A+ rider arround to ruin the party
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+1
As the Apprentice Leipheimer Apologist, I fully endorse what the master says.
Darth Ed, is that you?
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Angliru/Giro
just a quick point about this – Andy Hampsten spoke once in an interview about how different climbing in Italy is to climbing in France, since you’re often at a much higher altitude. He talked about how much more he liked climbing at 2600m (typical altitudes in Italy) than 2000m (typical France), how these are 2 different types of climbing that in a way require very different skill sets. I wonder if altitude wouldn’t have to be factored into using Leipheimer’s performance on the Algliru, which is much lower, to thinking about his Giro chances.
by plinytheelder on Mar 26, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
of course Leipheimer is a great climber
and perhaps and even better time trialist. It’s just that he’s entering uncharted territory come May, and all his top rivals, Cunego, Simoni, Di Luca, Basso have competed at the Giro on pretty much yearly basis. Leipheimer had already excelled at the Vuelta, in 2001 when he finished 3rd, and he specifically targeted the Vuelta last year after the non-invite the Tour and the earlier Giro debacle. Cunego was there strictly there to gain form in anticipation of the Worlds, not to compete for the GC. Again, I just look at the 2 riders Giro history and I see a rider in Cunego who’s won once, been cheated off the podium on two other occasions and another rider in Leipheimer who’s barely made inside the top 20 last year. History seems to say Cunego will go better.
Another thing of note from this race....
Is the poor performance of Thomas Dekker. Considering how near we are to the Ardennes classics that he was expected to compete in and I don’t think this bodes well for his chances there. Perhaps this is the result of him riding “clean”? I know that’s a touchy subject but all the rumors surrounding his departure from Rabobank seem to indicated he was busted by the team.
Really?
We all hear the suspicions but I actually spoke to a former Dutch pro rider who said that Dekker was never busted for anything. He’s a difficult person (to put it mildly) and there were some suspicions that were not confirmed by the team or anyone else. And the team is extremely risk averse. But you can’t say he’s been busted.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 26, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That said
His saga certainly raises questions. I mean, what the hell IS going on with him?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a huge mystery to me
On the one hand you have the fact that I wouldn’t trust a thing that comes out of the mouth of the old guard at Rabo. On the other hand it’s just incomprehensible that they would sever the link with the biggest dutch hope of a Tour win over nothing. I don’t care what anyone says of Gesink and Mollema and so on, Dekker has proven that he has everything it takes to win the Tour.
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
I think Dekker is an incredible rider
over a period of 5 to 10 days. His biggest wins were in Tirreno and ???….maybe Criterium Internacional. I honestly don’t remember. He can time trial, he can climb, but can he do both at a consistently high level over 3 weeks? I don’t know about that. Perhaps Rabo considered his limitations as a rider and figured his potential didn’t justify the huge ego and the salary.
But again, what happened to him over the past year? It’s bizarre for a rider to struggle this long.
He won the Tour de Suisse
Usually a pretty tough race. The Rabo split was rumored to be about blood values last year, and then rumors started revolving around nightclubbing.
Either way, my VDS squad hopes he does well in the Ardennes, because I picked him up based on an upward trend of results.
/dekker won the Tour de Suisse?!
That can’t be right.. Tour de Romandie is what I remembered.. 5,5,6 in the Ardennes, Fabolous support job for Rasmussen.. That’s it..
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He was very strong when he rode in support of the Chicken
and that was in the third week of the Tour. I don’t think that is a problem. As far as last year goes, of course the rumors that were swirling could be true. But also, he just had troubles in the spring up until Tour de Suisse. That could have been caused by anything, slumps happen, he might have caught a virus that set his training back or whatever. Then he was stuck in limbo and not getting results after all the controversy is pretty understandable.
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
But supporting someone else and riding as a leader are very different
Look at Popovyvh, people were saying he would win it all when he turned pro and it’s clear many years later that’s he simply not cut out to be a leader of a big team in a race like the Tour or giro. As a helper, on the other hand, he’s incredible. That’s his ideal role and he fills it beautifully for Astana. Maybe Dekker will fall in the same category? To me, Gesink has the greater potential to win the Tour one day. He looks like a natural in the high mountains, Dekker a little bit less so.
Gesink, I'm hoping, really shows something this year...
…and not only for the health of my VDS
make fast descents!
And if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places,
Be running up that road,
Be running up that hill.
- Kate Bush -
he’s super talented in the mountains. In my opinion, better to be a decent time trialist and and an outstanding climber rather the opposite. That skill set didn’t win Olano or Zulle any Tour de France’s in the 90’s.
Gesink is more of a Pantani, pretty high praise, but I think he’s that good. Lets just hope he has a better career and life than Marco did.
He is indeed a fine talent.
And also a pretty fast trialist. Remark the ITT at Macarata. He did beat a lot of good-guys there. (Incl my man Boasson Hagen, that not has shown off så much till this time. But good support of Lövquist)
I don’t think he has the out-of-cycling talent that Pantani seemed to have! He,s a damned serious man, that have learned to suffer.
And if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places,
Be running up that road,
Be running up that hill.
- Kate Bush -
Pantani was a once in a lifetime climber
But Gesink is probably the next best thing. I recently saw that you tube video of him finishing 2nd to Evans at the Queen stage of last year’s Paris Nice. What a talent! He pretty much rode everyone off his back wheel with his incredible spinning cadence. He’s still learning, as evidenced by his solid 7th place in the vuelta last year, but before long I think he’ll be winning mountain stages of the Tour and competing for the Yellow. Can’t wait to see what races he wins before then. :)
Yeah, that's the stage I saw last year that just stuck in my mind...
…and I haven’t been able to get out in terms of ‘my god this guy can be a beast’.
Even at the Worlds last year
i don;t know if you saw that race, but on the penultimate steeper climb on the last lap, he tried to rip to group apart and even the Italians, who completely dominated the race, were put on the defensive for a moment or two.
Imagine if the Worlds returned to Colombia again? Gesink might walk away with the title. :0
Or perhaps I'm wrong
I base that opinion on the aftermath of his departure from Rabobank. With all the doping rumors swirling around him neither the team or the rider was outspoken in dismissing them. Maybe they had some type of silence pact regarding his departure from the team? So you’re right, it’s a bit unfair to slander the guy by saying he was busted without certain evidence. It’s just his performance over the past year or so brings to mind other riders of the 90’s doping era who were incredible for a year or 2 and then plummeted back to Earth. His career path just seems a little odd to me.
My current take on that cipher, Dekker.
Yeah his results so far have been nonexistent but so have Evans’. I’m figuring that he’s basically on the Evans plan of early season non-results. Now when we come to the Ardennes and he still does nothing…
I agree to some extent but...
Evans has at least shown some form. Just today he finished 2nd and came close to the win. At Paris Nice he finished just behind Schleck and Sanchez in the hardest mountain stage of the race. His performance thus far is pretty in line with what he showed last year. Dekker, on the other hand, has always excelled at this time of year. He lost a heartbreaker to Bobby Julich at the Criterium Internation a few years ago and won tirreno as well. Both races take place in March. His big objective seemed to be the Ardennes but it’s hard to see him being much of a factor with this form, maybe he’s hiding it?
Could it be that he's trying to avoid the same
ill-advised seasonplanning that screwed up his 2008 season? I don’t know but that’s one interpretation.
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Evans?
He’s riding well this week in Italy – not winning, but right in there. He’s never had the speed to out-finish Cunego, not too many people do (Alejandro, do show up to the Ardennes races on form, would you?). I think Evans will be in the mix at the Ardennes – but he really wants to hit the Tour hard. Understandable, as he won’t have too many chances, and he must know by now that the one-day classics will be hard for him to win.
Thomas Dekker… Who’s that?
Actually
Wasn’t it the Tour of Romandie? Romandie is a tough race but it might be a little bit below the tour of Switzerland, plus it’s not a 3 week race.
He won Tirreno-Adriatico i 2006,
but well, his results after may 2008 are low.
And if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places,
Be running up that road,
Be running up that hill.
- Kate Bush -
Yeah
He was a non factor at the Tour of Switzerland, passed over for the Tour and has done nothing since. I read an interview with him this winter on the web or somewhere where he indicated that everything was fine with his training and that he was expecting good results early in the season. His performance so far at Coppi seems to indicate that something is not right, whether it’s his getting adapted to a new system or that his moral is suffering, who knows, but I for one was expecting more from him.
So he's basically a young guy
who has spent the 2008 early season focusing on the Tour, has a problem around T o Suisse and gets shafted by his team (making no judgement on whether they were right to cut him loose). Are we writing a guy off based on a few weeks of bad form in one season?
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Ohh I'm all for Thomas Dekker
Half the reason why i’m, staying an extra couple of days in Belgium… Bring on amstel!!
Ohh as for the rumours, well my Rabo source mentioned to me that it was something for more innocent then drugs for his dismissal… and it’s not illegal what he did…
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Romandie is easier than Switzerland
Typically Tour de Suisse has harder climbing and a less peaked out field.
Last I saw on Dekker’s website, he said he was coming on form. I’ll have to have another look, and see what may be up.
OK now I've watched it a couple of other points
It gets said here a lot, but that’s ‘cos it’s true. Colombia wore the white shorts, and at times during a long, nasty descent where the camera moto couldn’t get past you really wished that Sivtsov would lead Cardenas for a while. Plus I’d never noticed before, but in full kit and helmet he looks very like Ricco.
Nasty, nasty descent, cum false flat with uphill bits. It was barely wider than a car in many places so if you got stuck behind one then that was it. Is this going to be part of this year’s Giro course?
Evans is following the Ullrich training plan this winter. He looks like the man who found Cavendish’s youthful pudge, sniffed it then threw it on the barbie. If he can keep up with Cunego while filling his lycra that well tnen he might do better than we all expect in July when he hits his proper weight.
Evans lost a lot of on-the-bike training time this winter...
…trying to rehab his knee injury, you have to remember. In other sports where knee stability is crucial, the norm is surgical repair then at least 4-6 months of rehab before even attempting to compete again – I wonder sometimes whether his riding in the Olympics may have actually set him back in terms of longer-term recovery.
In any case, doesn’t sound like Evans himself is concerned at this point, from his website today: “Not to stress, things are coming along, and I did win a prosciutto as consolation….”
tweets from Robbie McEwen
“@CadelOfficial Never picked you as a Mortadella lover!” and then “@CadelOfficial Sounds like a lucky escape ;-)” – lol.
A full blown Giro debate in March
and no mention of the dude who finished 2nd today. Menchov is threat to win it, and he had a good Giro last year and has won some Gt’s, the only problem is he will probably have a weak team.
"It’s disappointing. Second place is the first loser."
~Heinrich Haussler (GERMANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Cervélo TestTeam
lol
Well, we were talking about the race in Italy ;-)
Very nice ride from Menchov at the Vuelta thingy – and very typical. The silent type, that Menchov. Is he riding the Giro or waiting for the Tour?
Giro, Tour
Like last year. Before that, it was always Tour, Vuelta and he would show his best form in the Vuelta.
cool, thanks
Noticed his old trend – of going better at the Vuelta. I can’t remember him at last year’s Giro – sad, but true ;-)
Yes Menchov zzzzzzzzzzzzz
hrrpphhh ah where was I, yes menchov surely a threat to win if he zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Don't remember his attack on the Ventoux?
And the day before the Ventoux?
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lol
Not the most exciting rider ever, by any means. Strong dude, though, and the long crono at this Giro will suit him very well. Huh. If he shows up with some form, he could cause the locals a bit of trouble, really.
That long TT is the big ? of 2009
Who is it going to suit? I love the fact that everyone has different takes on this.
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
Si
Well, it is an odd beast. No one has really ridden a crono this long in a grand tour, so it’s hard to know who will go well. I think it will really come down to the day – who puts the pieces together. An otherwise talented crono guy may totally blow the descent, while a good descender has a rough day on the false flats. Hard race – I’m looking forward to it.
Bike handling, so key.
So, you're saying Fränk should give it a miss?
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Alas, poor Fränk
That thingy is going to be hard going for him. But more to the point, Basso. Sheesh, that guy descends about as well as he sprints. If all goes well, he should have the engine, but staying on the bikey, that could cause him some troubles.
But he's had two years off
Surely if he put together a “10 things to work on before my comeback”-list, descending would be pretty close to the top of that list?
Did your favourite rider just win Montepaschi Strade Bianch Eroica Toscana? OK then.
You'd think
But Riis worked on his descending too, and it didn’t really ever seem to help. He’s so tall and lanky, it’s never going to be easy. But, he has always looked so stiff.
Heh, I think he’s going to get owned in Cinque Terre.
bike choice will be interesting
In his cyclingnews diary, Basso mentioned that although Armstrong and Cunego were talking about riding regular road bikes at Cinque Terre, he would be using a bike that was a cross between a road bike and a tt bike. He says he thinks the descents at Cinque Terre have been over-emphasized. Hmm….
He also said he’s gotten better at descending, and actually, I do recall thinking his descending looked a bit better than usual at Tirreno. Even so, he’s got a long way to go to reach the level of Cunego or Simoni.
Lol, I think Riis might want to take a long, hard look at whatever it is he’s been doing to work on his riders’ descending skills. Basso, Sastre, and Schleck are not exactly good advertisements for the Riis descending program.
by Susie Hartigan on Mar 26, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Bike choice
Agree that bike choice will be interesting. I keep hoping a viddy preview of that Cinque Terre thing will surface. But Cunego, Armstrong, and Simoni (I think) have all said the descent was crazy on that course – so I’m not sure I buy Basso’s comment there. He is right that the race will not be won on the descent – you have to pedal the climbs – but it could be lost there and could make a difference if the time gaps are close. It seems to me that Basso descends okay when it doesn’t really matter, but tends to go stiff when he’s feeling nervy.
LOL, at Riis, yeah. He was a pretty good descender, wasn’t he? It must irk him to no end to have so many riders who can’t go down without erm, going down.
I'll offer my services to Frank
Happy to teach him how to go down better
hahaha I couldn’t help it..
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Would thir be a 20% cut-off?
That would be fun for the Browns’s of the peleton :)
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Someone has the experience
The long ITT in the 2001 Tour was also 61 km (all right, this one is 61.7) and it was won by, guess who?
I'm gonna do an ursula (since I seem to be his parrot)
and be like… Yeah, and that was 2001 while this, this is 2009
Of course
Just calling gavia out on “No one has really ridden a crono this long in a grand tour.” I’m sure at least she will appreciate it …
Is this a trick question? ;-)
That thingy was long, I’m remembering now. Wasn’t it fairly flat, and non-technical though?
German guy.. T-Mobile.. Honchar?
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Altough he isn't probably German..
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Is it wrong?
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Lance, Ullrich, Grabsch, Vino?
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
I give up ;)
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Lance, of course ;-)
Who else? Dude nearly always one those Tour crono thingies. But more to the point, is one of the few riders still racing from that year’s Tour, who would know what to do with the Giro’s long crono. Assuming all those screws don’t weigh him down.
I don't believe in him..
Think he’s gonna fail in the Giro or/and Tour.. That guy is so old and wasn’t really convincing in the races
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
You could be right
Mostly, tedvdw was just heckling me for forgetting that lance won a long crono back in the day. All in good fun ;-)
Now that's not fair, did you see that blazing attack he launched today
on a 3 percent slope that led to him gaining one second that left the pack behind with no chance to cathc up.
"It’s disappointing. Second place is the first loser."
~Heinrich Haussler (GERMANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Cervélo TestTeam
Ten Dam 20th in the Tour last year is targetting the Giro..
With Garate, that guy isn’t riding good, and Ardilla they have a nice squad.. Nice but hey.. Menchov already won a Vuelta without a team
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Oh I'd say Rabobank will be a dark horse team for the Giro
They are showing very good teamwork so far at Murcia and CyL. Now that Menchoiv has a Giro under his belt he’ll have a better clue on how to attack.

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