Which Sumo Wrestler Does Theo Bos Most Resemble?
A number of people expressed shock at the takedown that Rabo sprinter Theo Bos put on Darell Impey at yesterday's Tour of Turkey, and the fact that Bos was not punished, but I respect the decision as a very delicate and informed choice. Turkey is a very cultured place, and being in Asia the judges would have had no difficulty seeing this incident for what it was: a first-rate sumo maneuver. First, look at the video:
Theo Bos in the Tour of Turkey (via afx237vi)
Good one, right? Of course. But I have a couple questions. First, I can't tell from the grainy video what move this was. My head says shitatenage but my heart says uwatenage, the difference being (duh!) whether Bos exectued the move by jerking downward with the outside of his body (left shoulder) or inside (right). I'm going with the inside -- shitatenage. Uwatenage is very difficult to execute on a bike, because to lever the other body across the frame of your bike requires an enormous amount of arm strength. By contrast, unlike non-wheeled sumo, in cycling sumo your opponent carries a very high center of gravity, so an inside-shoulder pull-down causes extreme instability with just a quick jerk. See the illustration below:
Look, I am not saying Bos is incapable of executing a proper uwatenage, and in the case of a sprint against a more familiar opponent than Impey he might be wise to try to capitalize on the element of surprise. I just think it happened very fast, and shitatenage is easier to execute quickly in a bunch sprint.
My second question is, who does Bos remind you of? He's very young, and you can't rush to conclusions, but it's always tempting to compare him to Musashimaru, since Bos trained at the legendary Musashigawa stable during his U-23 days. But -- and I don't do this lightly -- I think he compares well with Takanohana, one of the all-time shitatenage masters. Obviously Taka had many other maneuvers up his sleeve, as this famous uwatenage demonstrates. But Taka's shitatenage was lightning fast, and Bos showed some great hand-quickness in his execution yesterday. I know, it's early, but time will tell.
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Superb analysis as always...
Once again pro-cycling provides a platform for cross-cultural exchange, furthering understanding and enjoyment of all athletic endeavours around the globe! Chris, is there any training footage that you’re aware of showing Takanohana’s controversial mounted shitatenage method?
I'm built for descending...
Even a step-by-step how to guide
Would be useful for youngsters looking to perfect the technique.
I'm built for descending...
by omnevelnihil on Apr 20, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Welcome! Havený tou seen arround.. Sorry for not taking notice
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
G'day Frinking...
I’ve been lurking for a year or so now, but signed up for VDS this season and have started to get more involved. Pleased to meet you ;) and thanks for the welcome!
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by omnevelnihil on Apr 20, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
No
though I’d love to see it.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Clearly a uwatenage
if you look carefully in the video one can see that Bos is wearing kesho-mawashi under his bib shorts indicating he is at least a sekitori
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this is geography
but they play in the European championships.
got themselves into semi-final last year of some tournament as I remember :-)
Haha +1
What about het Euro siong festival?
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Israël
Is playing in the European Cup too. So they are Europeans too! Or could there be other reasons?
"Can I play with you guys? The kids in my neighborhood are really mean to me."
Moreover, it is my opinion that Alejandro Valverde is an asshole who should not be allowed to compete in bikeraces right now.
That's another reason why we let Turkey in
Think of the seven countries you would least like to share a border with, they’ve got the full set.
I think Albania is the one they're missing
If there was one common denominator you could build a truly global community around it would be everyones dislike for Albanians.
Moreover, it is my opinion that Alejandro Valverde is an asshole who should not be allowed to compete in bikeraces right now.
Does it count that everybody hates you
if the haters are all meant to be on our side?
Canada?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I used to be suspicious of Canadians
until I ate poutine. Now I thank the gods for those friendly little bastards.
More Muur...
Careful!
Poutine is just a trick to get you to lower your guard! It’s so good just to make you happy and careless!
Eternal vigilance against the Canucks!
Right after I have some poutine on my fries!
hehe
I’m just joshin,’ I used to live about 10k from where Lyne grew up. Rode my bike right through her town once.
by plinytheelder on Apr 20, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Australia is playing
in Asia
But then, New Caledonian cyclists race in the national championships in France.
https://twitter.com/KankiKnight
in australia's case
I believe they petitioned FIFA to allow them to play in Asia because the Oceania teams are weak.
Today, I raced à la Chavanel, and I succeeded.
...and the closest capital city to Perth
is Kuala Lumpur.
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In the NFL (American football)
In 2002, Indianapolis was moved from the AFC East to the AFC South. We’re really neither, but even when the AFC Central division existed, we weren’t part of it. Baltimore, below the Mason-Dixon line, plays in the AFC North. In the other conference, Dallas plays in the NFC East and St. Louis in the West.
And they wonder why US kids can’t learn geography.
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Nah, he was clearly going for the comedy effect
Lift Impey up but leave his legs pedalling in the air for a minute or so, while his bike shoots off the cliff ahead, realises, then falls to its doom.
People seem to think this post is in jest...
… I bet Chris has been holding this post close to his vest for a long time now, waiting for the most opportune time to spring it.
Clearly, Bos isn’t Akebono, Musashimaru, or Takanohana although it’s easy to try to draw that conclusion. Truly a move of this nature, executed so efficiently, indicates a sekitori of Yokozuna status, because even a rikishi from the high Ozeki ranks probably would have struggled with the bike handling skills required to pull the other rider down, but probably would have started (incorrectly) trying to impart hatakikomi for a kimarite before finally accepting hikiotoshi as the only maneuver acceptable in this instance particularly with the dohyō of the red kite so close.
So, understanding the ranking of Theo Bos, one has to look at his accomplishments in light of his physical size. Come on… this is no Akebono; this is no Musashimaru; this is no Maggy Backstedt. Instead, I think he has the qualities of some of the more recent younger, and physically smaller, yokozuna of this age. Specifically, I refer to the Mongolian legend, Asashōryū.
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
some historical perspective
please . . . [????]
And where in mounted-sumo, does the great Abdu-shinseki-japarov fit?
Oh, Les Woodland, where are you when we need you?
"Yokozuna"
A wrestler trained by Mr. Fuji… two time WWF Champion… two time WWF Tag Team Champion… and winner of the 1993 Royal Rumble.

Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
Sadly
Akebono is now an occasional western wrestler, in order to clean up for his wife’s disastrous business dealings.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I was right behind him in the security line at the airport in Honolulu once
Still trying to figure out how he squeezed through the metal detectors.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Apr 20, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He probably stripped down to his mawashi...
… the DHS guys saw his lightning bolts and paid him due homage by letting him through with more than a one oz. baggie of toiletries. Fucking sumo wrestlers get all the breaks at the airport.
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
My dad
was on a plane with Konishiki once. Needless to say he bought two seats in first class and had the armrest removed. I think JAL has some special sumo-friendly seating tricks.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
it’s true that we do tend to use Yokozuna for comparison, out of convenience; we should shy away from predicting a guy will actually attain that rank except in special cases (Cavendish). Bos doesn’t have the size to execute his sumo the way Backstedt or Akebono did. If I were doing Baseball Prospectus style comparables, I’d go with, oh, Akinoshima? Very aggressive, but not a great climber and still working on his pack-smarts. For now, Bos is still riding in Juryo races mostly, so like I said, time will tell.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, he's clearly got some Akinoshima in him
But otherwise you’re analysis is spot on.
"I didn't look for him and I didn't see him. If you base your race on another rider, most of the time you lose."
Tom Boonen
For those of you
who weren’t doing sumo in the 90s, Akinoshima was an upper-level guy known to carry on day after day about how aggressive he was. Most of his opponents were baited into meeting him head-on, but one of my favorite moments was when one guy came off the opening by just stepping hard left, and Akinoshima ran himself straight out of the ring, without stopping. Actually I’m surprised he didn’t make it all the way to the dressing room.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Talking about physical size,
Bos seems to be 1.90 m and 83 kg. That makes for a BMI of 23 and, never mind his 1983 year of birth, OFF the scale:
defending
Cycling will become a very dangerous sport, if this becomes a common move. Probably Bos will want to do the uwatenage the next time to show his fans he can do that move too.
So because Bos has improved the level of cycling with this move, cylists need new moves against it. I propose cyclists go for making a turn with their arms just like a helicopter. Then you can feel the other rider who’s beginning to make his move and then, you can stop him.
It must be a beautiful sight to see the peloton from now on with all cyclists doing the helicopter move the whole race, ’cause you have to be prepared to counter a surprise attack.
Uwatenage
is definitely less destabilizing on the pack as a whole. I agree, it’s the more honorable move. But like I said, it’s not at all easy.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
It does lead you to wonder if (as the sport continues to evolve)
some riders and/or teams will be willing to make weight sacrifices in order to mount blades etc. at key positions on the bike – Ben Hur style. Actually, I’m sure some very interesting things could be done with carbon fibre in this area of R&D. We may be on the verge of taking MMA truly onto the road.
I'm built for descending...
What type of saddles
do you suppose the big fellas use for cycle sumo?
manhole covers
duh!
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
That Jered
such a fine boy.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooohhhh Chris-san....excellent analysis!!!
The old Takanohana-Akebono matches are legendary.
Just wondering if crashdan will make chankonabe for the PdC crew next year at the ToC…..
Uh... actually...
… that was our first meal upon meeting that first night in Solvang. I picked Chris up at the airport and we went straight to a 99 Ranch to pick up the fixings.
Ok, it was more Chinese Hotpot than Chankonabe… but still…
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
Sumo wrestling and cycling, two sports I never thought I'd see compared
again the PdC blows my mind, just absolutely earth shattering post Chris.
In Chauncey we trust!
Oh
the responsibility! Whichever way you go on this, I can tell you now I’m not paying for your college.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Kudos!
To the race organizers for setting the straightest sets barriers EVER!
And to HWMNBN- shut yer trap and worry about AFLD!
To Theo Bos- Take a clue from Lil Robbie McEwen and next time you see Lance say, “Shut your mouth or I’ll fill it with my fist”.
Racing for Victory and Free Beer!
I have to say I agree
Now’s not the time for LA to be twittering derogatory comments of any kind about cyclists.
Really? Are you going to bring Jake The Snake into this?
Dude... why WOULDN'T Thor ride the chicken?
And to any Japanese cycling fans stopping by
I say: 私の家にようこそ。
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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 21, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions
adding
Welcome!
[dear god I hope that’s right…]
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