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LBL: Ranking the Favorites!

Lbl_mediumThe headline of this post pretty much says it all, so I won't futz around. Just one caveat: I didn't have Serguei Ivanov listed in any discussion of Amstel Gold. So take this with the appropriate lump of salt.

1. Damiano Cunego, Lampre

He failed in the finale on the Mur, but I don't regard this as representative of much besides his ability to do that particular race. L-B-L is different, the finale is gentler, so it should suit his finishing abilities better. I don't have time to run all the numbers, but there's a recent streak of LBL podium finishers who started slowly at Amstel and peaked by the time they got to Ans, and to me Cunego looks like he's headed in the right direction. Not a strong favorite call, but since you have to put someone here, I'm going with The Kid.

2. Davide Rebellin, Serramenti blahblahblah

One win, two seconds in Ans... is there anyone else who's a mortal lock for a top-five besides Rebellin? The guy is always, ALWAYS around the front of the race in the Ardennes. Age apparently means nothing, so far anyway. The only reason he's second is my guess that Cunego doesn't get dropped before the finish, and in a head-to-head on that slope I'd pick Cunego.

3. Alejandro Valverde, Caisse d'Epargne

Um, my point about guys coming around during Ardennes week? Valverde was 21st in Amstel and seventh in La Fleche. If you (OK, I) think Cunego can finish off a race... Still, he's seemed pretty invisible, so there's a chance he's not playing possum. Very weird season in general -- you knew that already -- so I'm marking him down a bit, since Liege isn't the kind of race you win after months of seeming adrift.

4. Andy Schleck, Saxo Bank

Like Rebellin, there's almost no way he isn't on the pointy end of this race when they reach Ans. But to close it out he will have to outmuscle some combination of faster finishers, unless he can escape prematurely. Anywhere in the top ten is a realistic possibility for Schleck the Faster, but top three will take some doing.

5. Cadel Evans, Silence-Lotto

You could make a convincing argument that he was the strongest guy on Wednesday. This sort of thing doesn't help you win on the Mur, if you've got a wispy climber on your wheel, but it most certainly does matter in LBL. There is little history of Evans figuring out the last km of a major classic, so you wouldn't put all your money here. But exactly nobody should be surprised if he powers away to the line.

6. Robert Gesink, Rabobank

So now he's back on the startlist. In a show of faith toward Rabobank management, I will guess that his knee must be fine, for no sentient being would send a talent like Gesink out to ride LBL with a hurt knee. Right?

7. Serguei Ivanov, Katusha

The hottest hand in the peloton right now -- little dude's been everywhere. But two major factors against him: he has zero history at LBL, which is pretty conspicuous considering he's been on the verge of winning Amstel for about a decade. And there is a similar inverse history to the guys peaking at Ans, that is guys peaking at Amstel and blowing up in Liege.

8. Thomas Lovkvist, Columbia

I suspect he's plan A-1 for this race, where if Kirchen feels good at km 250 Lovkvist becomes a domestique for the finale, but I don't expect that to come about. To me, in the classics Lovkvist is a poor-man's Andy Schleck, by which I mean he's not as glitzy and accomplished but otherwise very similar in ability (right Jens?). A longshot to actually win, but if Columbia get their tactics right he's highly likely to find himself in that crucial position, at the end of the race, where anything can happen. History? Not much here, but he had no history at La Fleche before finishing sixth yesterday.

9. Christian Pfannberger, Katusha

A future winner of something in this region. Last year he ran 6-9-5 in his first three Ardennes races, and he had the bit in his teeth yesterday too. It'd be interesting to see if he and Ivanov can mess around with the favorites at LBL. This is a much more strategic race than La Fleche -- it's far harder, and there are numerous places to attack in the last 15km or so, with no Mur looming to thwart you. So what if Ivanov, no longer someone you want to underestimate, takes off like a madman at 8km? Does Pfannberger get a cozy chariot ride in the ensuing chase? There are some scenarios to tinker with, for sure.

10. Sammy Sanchez, Euskaltel

Another great Spaniard having a quiet spring, which seems to be his m.o. recently. I can't figure out his plan. Also, his best finishes at Ans were 4th and 6th in 2004 and '03, a lifetime ago. I'm all for him winning, but if you think of where he's had his best days (Beijing, San Sebastian, certain Vuelta stages), they're all noticeably less grueling events than LBL.

11. Vincenzo Nibali, Liquigas

A for effort this week. I probably shouldn't rank him even this high, as he seems to be in attack-til-you-blow-a-gasket mode... something that won't work Sunday. Hell, he may not even be the team captain by the time it's over, what with Basso (supposedly) there. But Vinny is developing well, and was tenth here last year.

12. Linus Gerdemann, Milram

Well, he can climb. And he's the captain of one of the bigger (if sillier-looking) teams. The race suits him fine, given his showings in some very hard races. But the lack of race days this year, and his being a rookie at LBL, makes me think he won't get the last moo.

13. Clément Lhotellerie, Vacansoleil

Just a kid, all of 23, so this is a wildcard pick. But in his first-ever Ardennes race (aside from some espoirs events), La Fleche, he finished 11th. Next great French hope?? Naw, let's not bury him with that tag yet.

14. Simon Gerrans, Cervelo Test Team

I wouldn't call him a lock for second place, not after Pippo broke the CTT streak at Roubaix. But the possibility certainly can't be dismissed. Gerrans has struggled on this course more than the previous two events, so his pair of top-tens this week might not say everything you need to know. But top 15 sounds quite plausible.

15. Rinaldo Nocentini, AG2R

He's certainly proven over the years that he knows how to find the front end of an Ardennes classic, even if he isn't quite talented enough to finish off the peloton. The man always gets his points.

Anyone missing? Besides my repeated failure to make Philippe Gilbert the favorite to win, I mean?

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Lazy move Chris

just because you don’t want to write the full name of Rebellin’s team doesn’t mean it’s OK to stick him on Lampre.

In Chauncey we trust!

by Phil H. on Apr 23, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Temporary insanity....

needs to be fixed

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 23, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although it would be quite cool to see Tin Tin and Cunego on the same team

who’s leader? Do they go quickstep on the competition? Would be fun, but still not reality.

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by Phil H. on Apr 23, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

age

before beauty?

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 23, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hotitude crowd already lost benna for the Giro

and now you say this? Heartless!

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by Phil H. on Apr 23, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

the classic comeback would be

“pearls before swine” (don’t shoot! I don’t mean it!)

by JFS_PGH on Apr 23, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clément Lhotellerie rides for Vacansoleil

Even more, he’s a member of that team, too.

by tedvdw on Apr 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Lol.. FDJ! Muahaha

Nice kid btw.. Lovely to see him back in FW

Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

by Frinking on Apr 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

I knew…

See what happens when you rush?

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 23, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

fixed

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 23, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had a nice spring last year

Did pretty well in P-N if I remember correctly. He was riding for Skil-Shimano then. Sadly he blew up later in the season. That’s why he is with Vacansoleil now. Otherwise it might have been FDJ.

by Lopex on Apr 24, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he was on his way to FDJ

chances are they got scared off by the bloodvalue-rumors.

Moreover, it is my opinion that Alejandro Valverde is an asshole who should not be allowed to compete in bikeraces right now.

by Jens on Apr 24, 2009 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Breakaway

Any chance that a strong breakaway group forms here like in P-R? Not sure what the history of this happening in this race is. Say 15 riders or so.

by ncmussell on Apr 23, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

It does sometimes work that way that a group of 15 or 20 escapes at the top of La Redoute. That happened in 2006 (er, I think that’s right) – Basso rode a bunch of dudes off on the climb. Valverde won at the line. I seem to recall a group of about a dozen at the base of the finish climb in Ans that year – but I’d have to go back and check.

When Diluca won, there was a pretty sizeable group on the Saint-Nicholas also (last climb, inside 10 to go). Fränk Schleck attacked just after the summit and took Diluca with him. Predictable result at the line.

A small group finish is more common, though.

by Jen See on Apr 23, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Done, actually ;-)

Pretty sure I got the St Nick correct in the real deal.

I have a hyphen gun under my desk. It’s difficult to control.

by Jen See on Apr 23, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rinaldo Nocentini

May we call him The Corsican Bandit? Whenever I hear his name, I think: “Rinaldo Rinaldini!”

by tedvdw on Apr 23, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

trending

His Fleche finish seems to indicate he might be trending in the right direction. Lets hope

by ncmussell on Apr 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Kroon, Gaspa and J-Rod..

Espacially Gaspa was impressing in FW.. Finishing top 20th after his attack

Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

by Frinking on Apr 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

make the case

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 23, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which case?

Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

by Frinking on Apr 23, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok I give it a try..

Kroon did a really good job in th AGR. Already was 17th last year. With his form he will be second to hold tradition from Saxo Bank.

Rodriquez has to be first man. Made an attack in FW and Valverde was nooowhere.. Ok he was there but not Valverde worthy. I will be surprised if he will be there now and J-Rod has ro give him my credit back.

Gaspa is steady building his form.. Way to late?! Where is he heading to? Giro?! Would be nice to get some stages there.. But to come back to LBL.. He was reaally good at FW.. Or was that just me hoping for some points in VDS

Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

by Frinking on Apr 23, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

2nd teamers

Only problem with each of these guys is they are working for someone above them. Kroon for Schleck, J-Rod for Valverde, Gaspa for Cunego. I could see maybe 15-25.

by ncmussell on Apr 23, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right except

Kroon will be working his ass off for Frank? and Andy
J-Rod will be working his ass off for last year’s winner Valverde, who didn’t do much better at AG and FW last year heading into L-B-L.
Gaspa will be working his ass off for Cunego.

In Chauncey we trust!

by Phil H. on Apr 23, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gesink

From rabosport.nl: “Gesink has done some serious testing Thursday. That included several high intensity loads on his knee. It did not lead to any pain. Team doctor Dion van Bommel says there is nothing standing in the way of Gesink’s start in Liège.”

by tedvdw on Apr 23, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Just wondering...

Was there anything really wrong? Or, did they just want an excuse for him to skip Flèche? Nttawwt.

by Jen See on Apr 23, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno

Don’t think Rabo PR is that sophisticated.

by tedvdw on Apr 23, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I resemble that remark.

Here’s Gesink blogging in Dutch: http://www.rabosport.nl/heldenprofiel/sport/Robert%20Gesink/113#113
Weird little pain in his thigh right after the race. They did an MRI and found a tear of a few millimetres in a tendon attachment. He was badly miffed at having to miss one of the most beautiful races of the year while on top form.

by tedvdw on Apr 23, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Rabobank does tend to be quite direct in their press comments. Rather refreshing, actually.

And yes, you do resemble that remark.

by Jen See on Apr 23, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thomas Dekker: Insane Lotto Wildcard?

Probably not, but he is probably their Plan C since I assume the team is desperate for some very prestigious wins.

Meanwhile, where is the big-eared Roman?

And Bubbleboy? Come come, it is his year for comeback instead of that other guy.

Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.

by Josenka on Apr 23, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Bubble boy

Back to what?

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 23, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

completely insane ;)

Has he finished a race within 5 minutes of the winner yet this year?

by ncmussell on Apr 23, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

30th at Amstel, 1.29 back

Would be nice if he got me some @#$%^ points, but I’m not holding my breath.

You need to do this race two or three times before you can win, despite what Cunego showed us last year: winning in his first try--Frank Schleck, on Amstel Gold

by majope on Apr 23, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

To dream the impossible dream, eh?

Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.

by Josenka on Apr 23, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

TD said on his website

That he used Fleche as a training ride and will go for a nice result in LBL. He is regaining form but it might be too early still.

by Lopex on Apr 24, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also on his website

A nice interview of TD by a former cycling pro turned sports-journalist. It’s in Dutch so only comprehensible by the lucky few I guess.

by Lopex on Apr 24, 2009 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rather off topic, but...have you heard anything on why Dekker isn't doing Romandie?

He was on earlier start lists, but the Tour de Romandie roster is up on the Silence-Lotto website, and he isn’t on it.

You need to do this race two or three times before you can win, despite what Cunego showed us last year: winning in his first try--Frank Schleck, on Amstel Gold

by majope on Apr 24, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he complained about the Captain.

Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.

by Josenka on Apr 24, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shooting starts the day after Liege...

Unless he gets results, of course.

You need to do this race two or three times before you can win, despite what Cunego showed us last year: winning in his first try--Frank Schleck, on Amstel Gold

by majope on Apr 24, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Lotto team bonding?

I’m trying to imagine this picture…

CadelOfficial : Relaxing in the hotel room having the Dutch rock music scene explained to me by Thomas D. about 3 hours ago from web

by guidemd on Apr 25, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's strangely...cute.

You need to do this race two or three times before you can win, despite what Cunego showed us last year: winning in his first try--Frank Schleck, on Amstel Gold

by majope on Apr 25, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saxo

I think this is their (there) race. With Schleck, Kroon, Sorenson and Kolobnev, they will have lots of bullets to use. They’ve been close twice and it’s got to be eating up Riis that they haven’t won yet. Kroon and Kolobnev have to be respected if they attack, so Andy should get towed to the line, unless Kolobnev is feeling good and they decide he can be the better finisher?

"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!

by jsallee00 on Apr 23, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Kolobnev

I think he is the better finisher for them. But I s’pect Andy will make it further in the climby bits.

Heh, hard for them to win, I think, unless Andy just freakin’ crushes on either of the two final climbs – I can never remember the name of the one before the St Nick – and stays away. That would be quite a win, indeed. By all accounts, he is an otherwordly talent, so anything is possible with that guy.

by Jen See on Apr 23, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

turned out to be a pretty relevant "unless"

fortunately, I’m not the type to gloat. And this post is probably too old for anyone to remember anyway.

"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!

by jsallee00 on Apr 27, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well a new follow-up does tend to attract some attention :)

despite the story being on page 2 by now. Good observations by both of you!

by tedvdw on Apr 27, 2009 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Valverde vs. Cunego

Would love to see these two battle it out by themselves for the win. Think that would make for a great finish and just add to the uphill sprinting battle between them.

by ncmussell on Apr 23, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

And the spreadsheet is up.. I can’t make conclussions out of it.. Ursula can do that… Or Majope.. Plz :) here

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by Frinking on Apr 23, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

A Samuel Sanchez Apology

Chris wrote,

Another great Spaniard having a quiet spring, which seems to be his m.o. recently. I can’t figure out his plan.

Here’s the deal with Samu. After last year chasing that Tour de France bitch (he did an entirely different schedule last year), he’s gone back to the schedule that served him so well in 06 and 07, where he avoided the Tour all together. Recall, he finished 10th in 07 in the year end CQ rankings, 4th in 06.

So let’s compare his 06 and 07 springs with what he’s done so far this year:

06
- 4th Paris-Nice
- 6th Pais Vasco
- 15th Amstel
- 2nd La Fleche
- 15th LBL

07
- 9th Paris-Nice
- 3rd Pais Vasco
- 15th Amstel
- 26th La Fleche
- 12th LBL

09
- Pulled out of Paris-Nice: crash
- 3rd Pais Vasco
- 14th Amstel
- 4th La Fleche

So has his season been quiet? No, not especially so. He’s ranked 17th on CQ so far this season, probably 7th or 8th among all non-cobbles riders. He hasn’t won anything, but he’s been competitive.

So does he have a chance at LBL? Sure. As much as Ivanov had at Amstel. Sam San’s 14th at Amstel and 4th at La Fleche is as good a combo as he’s ever done. He’s a lock for the top 20, solid at a top 10, an outside chance at a podium and a better than puncher’s chance at a win. Personally I’d rank him 7th on your list, ahead of Ivanov, Pfannberger, and Lovkvist. The guys in front of him will beat him in a sprint (well not Andy or Cadel or Bobo) and to my eyes he’s looked quite a bit stronger than Valverde all spring.

by ursula on Apr 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

OK smartypants

Doesn’t his PV performance back what I said about him winning in easier races? Not to demean him or anything, I just don’t think he has that last-km quickness after 250km.

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 23, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random comment

Sanchez did win Zuri Metzgewhatsit one year – so he can win a one day classic. But that thing wasn’t as hard as Liège – flat finish, and he escaped solo. Cancellara made the top five in that edition, Stuey OGrady was second.

Er, so you might be right about the easier races idea. Certo, I have not seen him at the front at one of these monument thingies.

by Jen See on Apr 23, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh Chris . . .

2006 Zuri-Metzgete . . .

All Sam-well needs is pissy-cold miserable rainy conditions and he’ll drop ’em on the descent past the Standard Liege stadium and drill it up the last cotes.

Sanchez suffers from being on a team that can’t set up a race for him.

by R Mc on Apr 23, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Standard Liege

is it wrong to root for a football/soccer team because a really cool bike race passes their stadium? [And for the record, Milano-Torino is not a really cool bike race.]

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 23, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

done!

Anyone know their fight song?

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 24, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, that's to be condoned.

Just as I root for Real Sociedad, just because San Sebastian is a nice place for a bike race…

by Albertina on Apr 24, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the pictures

San Sebastian is a nice place for just about anything.

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 24, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reply from the smartypants....

lol

Yep- you are right about the lack of that last km of quickness. I guess I didn’t say that well at the end of my post, but I agree with you. If he had that ending quickness he would be in your top three. Am I right in saying that lack of last km quickness is what separates the top three from 4-10? Basically if any of 4-10 were competing for the win against any of the top three you would have to give them long odds IMO.

by ursula on Apr 23, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

si...

Though I give Andy Schleck the otherworldly talent wildcard ;-)

by Jen See on Apr 23, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Olympics last year?

It was a hair short of 250k and then he outsprinted none other than Rebellin and A. Schleck, two viable contenders for Sunday….I know you could make a bunch of arguments about this not being the same type of race BUT it was rather long and chock full of contenders.

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 24, 2009 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

odd race… the climb wasn’t very hard, and the descent was a screamer, which is why Sammy liked it. The pea soutp air was a nasty X factor, at which point you have to throw the whole thing out the window, as a predictor. Damn though, it was a cool looking route.

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 24, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

actualimentalich

the disceza a Pekin was not really a screamer—moderate grade on an interstate—hardly the sort of thing for Sanchez to put fear into people.

Which makes it a lot like that descent past the stade . . .

by R Mc on Apr 24, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

SamSan has won a race this season....what was is called...? Er...

GP Llodio. I know very little about it but it’s a win nonetheless.

by Albertina on Apr 24, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

samsan

I think he is going for lbn the reason I put that there is because it finishes in ans and also I

by M. Anatole on Apr 23, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Which one?

Aren’t there two now? Or is Jurgen not there?

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 24, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as Valv.Piti doesn't win this race I will be happy...

And Cunego isn’t a kid…he is a Prince and should be addressed with this title at all times

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 24, 2009 3:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Andy Schleck will rule.

Rolf Sørensen told in Flèche Wallone, after talking to Bjarne Riis, that Andy Schlecks rear-brake had been scratching the wheel for the last 25 kilometers of Amstel Gold Race. Not just a little, like “Oh, look” – no, it was more like “OH, LOOK!”. I’m telling you, if his legs are anywhere near the level of those in Flèche and Amstel Gold Race, there’ll be no towing others to the line ‘cause he’ll be gone.

by Forstoppelse on Apr 24, 2009 4:09 AM EDT reply actions  

You can't change your bike in 25 km?

Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
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by Frinking on Apr 24, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't notice anything.

Therefore the post-race “OH, LOOK!”.

by Forstoppelse on Apr 24, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if he didn't notice anything..

How could they know it was the last 25 km?

Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

by Frinking on Apr 24, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because the excuse wouldn't sound so bad otherwise?

Oh my, I've just fallen in love with Roger De Vlaeminck's sideburns.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 24, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's just a bad question.

Hmpf!

Well, because, you need to be have something to ask about!

No, really, I would think it had something to do with Andy saying that “Oh yes, maybe I felt something, actually”. I wondered, too, how it could be exactly the last 25 kilometers but, you know, Riis has mental skills.

by Forstoppelse on Apr 24, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, the betting is on

How many of the 15 riders Chris named for the top-15 in sunday’s L-B-L will not actually make it into that top-15?
I’ll be conservative and open the bidding with 3. Who bids more?

by Lopex on Apr 24, 2009 7:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Correct!

8 out of Chris’ 15 strongmen did not make it into the top 15.
The lucky 7 were Andy-Rebellin-Ivanov-Gerrans-Cunego-Sanchez-Nocentini.
On the other hand Chris predicted 6 guys in the top 10. And 2 of his picks were present in the 36-men group sprinting for third.

by Lopex on Apr 27, 2009 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I won! I won! I won!

I hate snuggies, don’t bother sending one.

by tedvdw on Apr 27, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

7

I think that 8 of the 15 will be there, there abouts at the end.

But, I think that there will be a sizable gap somewhere in that top 15, say a group of 5-6 separated from the remainder, and then some considerable gap back again.

LBL is one of my most favourite races. You don’t make the final selection by accident here.

by muk on Apr 24, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 with 3 others in the the 15-20 places

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Apr 24, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

I thought the conservative bet was more like 10. Betting on me being right is not conservative.

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 24, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny fact..

Scarponi rode twice LBL.. Finishing 4th and 7th.. He get there I think

Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

by Frinking on Apr 24, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuiiiiccccccce!

Moreover, it is my opinion that Alejandro Valverde is an asshole who should not be allowed to compete in bikeraces right now.

by Jens on Apr 24, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or at least

ancient history.

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 24, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Orangejuice, Applejuice, Scarponijuice?

Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

by Frinking on Apr 24, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

The Man from Murcia says "Yes"

Moreover, it is my opinion that Alejandro Valverde is an asshole who should not be allowed to compete in bikeraces right now.

by Jens on Apr 24, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty well-layed out list, Chris.

I might add Michael Albasini in the Top 15 (or so).

And this kid Nocentini, I’m starting to like.

suck it, fixie h8rz

by swells on Apr 24, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

32 yo , I think the trainingwheels are ready to come off

Moreover, it is my opinion that Alejandro Valverde is an asshole who should not be allowed to compete in bikeraces right now.

by Jens on Apr 24, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK Pappy

Moreover, it is my opinion that Alejandro Valverde is an asshole who should not be allowed to compete in bikeraces right now.

by Jens on Apr 24, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schleck the Accident-Prone

is starting after all.

You need to do this race two or three times before you can win, despite what Cunego showed us last year: winning in his first try--Frank Schleck, on Amstel Gold

by majope on Apr 24, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah

But is he the captain, or will he be working for Schleck the Stable?

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 24, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, they finished 3-4 last year. Maybe this year they'll go for 4-3?

You need to do this race two or three times before you can win, despite what Cunego showed us last year: winning in his first try--Frank Schleck, on Amstel Gold

by majope on Apr 24, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

4 minus 3 equals 1. They could be on to something here.

It was great to see them together in the end last year. Hopefully they’ll be able to do stuff like that a lot more often!

by Lopex on Apr 24, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Save Ferris!

Both Save Ferris! and Basso will fly in from Trentino for Liège. Basso’s highest finish was third, but that was some time ago. The year Bettini and Garzelli went 1-2, actually.

by Jen See on Apr 24, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

For the newbies

This may need a picture.

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by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 24, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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