Pais Vasco aka Tour of the Basque Country, Stage One... Live!
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 5:00 AM EDT
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First, Let's talk about viewing options
Cycling Fans has the full story and probably umwolverine will provide a couple direct links.
For non-US viewers (and possibly US viewers as well): ETB supposedly will start at 15:55 CET or 9:55 am Eastern. There may well should be other links as well.
For US viewers only: Universal Sports has a geo-restricted feed starting at 9:35 am, Eastern. A few words about this option. I have a Mac and while Safari works fine, Firefox doesn't. Also Windows users supposedly can enlarge the video to fit the screen, but I can't do that on my Mac. Here is the video help page for Universal if you can't get it to work right off.
First, Now about this stage
It's a tough one. Here is the course profile- 
Five cat 3 climbs and three cat 2's. The last cat 2, the Alto Lazkaomendi, peaks 7.4 km from the finish. There's a down hill then the last 3.5 km rises about 40 meters.
Who's racing? Contador is the defending champ, Evans came in 2nd, and Evans' new teammate, Dekker, came in 3rd last year. By team:
Astana- Contador, Brajkovic, Horner, Rubiera
Caisse d'Epargne- Lulu, J-Rod, Arroyo, Moreno, Kiryienka (no Valverde)
Saxo- Both Schlecks, Larsson, both Sorensens, etc,
Columbia- Lovkvist, Rogers, Siutsou, Monfort, etc.
Euskaltel- Sam San, Martinez, Nieve; Garmin- Vandevelde, Zabriskie, Pate, Danielson, Hesjedal; Cofidis-Moncoutie; Fuji- Cobo, De La Fuente
Liquigas- Kreuziger, Nibali; Cervelo- Sastre, Gerrans; Lotto- Evans, Dekker, Van Den Broeck; Lampre- Cunego, Bruseghin, Gasparotto;
Katusha- Colom, Pfanenberger; Rabobank- Gesink, Freire, Mollema; Milram- Leeeenos, Wegmann, Knees; Fuji- Cobo, De La Fuente
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Did you mean CEST ... ?
(Yes you did!) Thanks for the write-up.
by tedvdw on Apr 6, 2009 6:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think they're interchangeable...
the stock exchanges i go to work use CET
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well they are both valid time zones
But not interchangeable, of course! CET or GMT+1 is the standard Central European Timezone for most of central/western Europe, excluding UK, Portugal (also Iceland, Greenland but no bike races there ;) ). CEST is for the same region but is the daylight savings variant (summer time) and is the one that we’re on now: GMT+2. So at the moment, there is no CET …
Have I been trolled?
by tedvdw on Apr 6, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it seems rather strange that the stock exchange releases don't switch to the CEST
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last year
Bert jumped out of the pack in the last little climb.
i am wondering if anyone’s gonna do the same again…
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 6:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nieveeee!
And yes Albetina… I know.. I know
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on Apr 6, 2009 6:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did I mention....? Oh yes, believe I did ;-)
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daaaaddddy!!!!
She’s mean AGAIN!
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on Apr 6, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh Cobo is gonna rock..
I’m flying to the number 1 position because of him
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on Apr 6, 2009 6:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good afternoon!
how many you have here?
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah you too!
Uhm Nieve, Leenos, P. Velits, Gasparotto, Martens, Mollema, Gesink, Cunego and Sivtsov… You?
Ooh and I expect a lot of points of them… I’m 2000 points behind……
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on Apr 6, 2009 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll try to beat you with:
Contador, Davis, Kiryienka, Roche, Possoni, Cunego, Gasparotto, Fedrigo, Dekker, Wegmann and Cobo.
For Dekker and Gasparotto it is their last chance. If they don’t perform here I will be forced to put them back to the junior league.
Why is Zeke not here?
by Lopex on Apr 6, 2009 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
start list here
http://startlist.cyclingfever.com/startlist.html?_p=startlijst&id=19121
I want to know, where is Igor Anton??
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was on the original list
but it seems they pulled him out. That injury from the Angliru has proved troublesome. Maybe he didn’t feel great after CyL?
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
I think he’s planning on the Tour and Vuelta but not sure….being lazy about digging out the articles!
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, aren't you the one speaks Euskara?
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't speak it, no!
Only a few choice words and phrases :-)
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
:-( Sorry!
But have you seen how hard it is to learn?!
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no idea whatsoever
I’m sure it’s very difficult!
still, I expect you to dig out some gossip of Igor…
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which words and phrases?
The usual, I guess. “Hello”, “good morning”, “good evening”, “five beers, please”, “no, I did not kill your cat”, “I’m sorry officer, I must have missed the speed limit” and “I’m drunk and injured, where is the nearest hospital?”.
No longer that I call them tights, I call them freedom ware.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 6, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm quite good at anything related to pelota,
you know, things like serve, hook, drop, championship, doubles, and numbers etc etc. I understand things like ‘……wins the point’ and ‘nice serve’. Apart from that, the usual stuff…but not the drunk and injured one!
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I'll rephrase
Why is Zeke’s team not here?
by Lopex on Apr 6, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as of why they invited CONTENTPOLIS-AMPO
instead of Xacobeo, i have no idea
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My lucky 7:
Schleck the Younger, Dekker, Lovkvist, Leenooos, Jesus, Swift, Meier.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So this is where all the teams with weak cobble-squads are hiding this week...
I’ve got 8 racing in Pais Vasco: Contador, Andy, Nicki Sorensen, LL Sanchez, Di Gregorio, Colom, Rogers, Cunego. That would make one pretty damn good team lineup for the race, wouldn’t it?
I’m hoping for my Paris-Nice boys to do well + first real showing of the Ardennes squad.
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very sensible choice
I mean, building your team for stage races & Ardennes
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
I sure hope it’ll turn out to be a good choice.
I’ll need some points here to cover all the losses in this week’s other races.
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cobbles will be gone soon.
still a long season to go…
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
12 for me as well
Contador, Rubiera, Samsan, Nieve, Davis, Chris Sorensen, Moreno, Petrov, Mollema, Nibali, Cobo and Vazquez
by FrankV on Apr 6, 2009 6:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
9 for me. I swear Anton was on the lists before but he's not there now.
Contador, Barredo, Lulu, Colom, Pinotti, Monfort, Mollema, Fedrigo, Kreuziger
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what's his schudule this year??
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just posted above that he was on the original list but seems to have been pulled....
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Barredo start?
He was among the injured yesterday.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ETB link
http://www.eitb.com/television/etb-sat/
unfortunately, you need to go down about 2/3 of the page to get to the "television on line" selection, either etb sat or canal vasco
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 6:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
today's wil be repeated at 04.30 local tues am
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tickers
http://vueltapaisvasco.diariovasco.com/2009/directo/index.htm
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 7:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
The translated version dosn’t work for me, but this one from Biciciclismo does
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=da&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biciciclismo.com%2Fcas%2Fsite%2Fnoticias-ficha.asp%3Fid%3D10833&sl=auto&tl=en
by LittleOldLady on Apr 6, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
13:55 h. First day getaway
Start the movement. Aitor Hernández (15 – Euskaltel-Euskadi), Bingen Fernández (152 – Cofidis), José Herrada (194 – Contentpolis-Ampo) y Gorka Izagirre (195 – Contentpolis-Ampo) have escaped from the peloton and have two minutes and with income .
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 8:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
14:05h. Próximos a Urkillaga
La cabeza de carrera se acerca al Alto de Urkillaga, primera dificultad montañosa de la jornada. Este puerto de tercera categoría cuenta con tres kilómetros de longitud, y una pendiente del 7%.
14:00h. Sube la renta de los fugados
Pasado el kilómetro 9,5, los cuatro escapados han aumentado su ventaja, que asciende ya a los 5:30 sobre el pelotón principal.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In honour of the Vuelta a Pais Vasco
I will now go cycling in my blue points jersey of the VaPV, with Euskaltel print.
by tedvdw on Apr 6, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
I went out in my Euskaltel jersey yesterday ;-)
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To honor the poor Euskies who had to suffer through De Ronde?
by Jens on Apr 6, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're the real heroes of that race.
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quite so ;-)
I may even wear it to PR next week. They need all the encouragement they can get!
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Note on Mac zooming
About that window size things on a Mac, you know you can make any window contents bigger by doing option-command-equals and then smaller with option-command-minus. That is, hold down the two keys and press = or -. So you can make the video as big as you want. (This is enable on the Universal Access preferences if for some reason it is turned off for you.)
by Markk on Apr 6, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's the thing
I tried that yesterday on the Cyclocross video, just to be sure. It didn’t work on the video even though the text around the video got bigger. Tell me that it’s working for you.
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Google Translate
Tselinograd has also placed some of his men at the head of the peloton.
Who? Oh, Astana.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 8:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For those of you who like such things:
’The city of Astana was originally called “Akmola,” which means “white grave” in Turkish. In the ’50s, when Kruschev wanted people to settle the virgin lands of the Kazakh steppes, he renamed Akmola as Tselinograd, “Tselina” meaning “virgin lands” in Russian and Ukranian (making Tselinograd the rough equivalent of “Virginia City”). It got changed back to Akmola after the fall of the Soviet Union, then renamed Astana when the capital was moved there—“Astana” means “capital” in Kazakh. Source
There. Now you know everything except why Google decided to translate Astana into one of its former names. Pro-Soviet bias? Let’s start an internet rumor…
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
15:03 Aitor Pérez, dizzy from the fall, leaves the race
15:02 Al paso por Deskarga la desventaja del pelotón es de 4:35 15:02 Al Deskarga passage of the bunch is the disadvantage of 4:35
15:00 Aitor Pérez es el corredor que se ha ido al suelo. 15:00 Aitor Perez is the rider who has gone to ground.
14:59 Caída en el pelotón, un corredor del Contentpolis-AMPO se ha ido al suelo 14:59 Fall in the peloton, a corridor Contentpolis-COPE has ido Ground
by LittleOldLady on Apr 6, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LIVE at universal
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cool like Olympics
No commentators, just ambient noise.
by Markk on Apr 6, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no commentary?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's very peaceful.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's very annoying.. i listen to the races, not watch... working here
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we switch places then? I still can;t get a picture- just the opening add.
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you on the Live page?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm, interesting
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
browser?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might try it on my older Mac which worked last year for the Olympics
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Work's fine for me on PowerPC Mac w/latest OS / Safari
Give the actual stream part time to load. Needs to buffer
by Ed K on Apr 6, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Riddler strikes again?
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Universal Sports
Do you have the latest Silverlight for Mac? Universal is NBC is Silverlight like the Olympics I believe.
by Markk on Apr 6, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll check but I think so
I can see the cyclocross vid just fine
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah- I do have the latest silverlight
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it isn't silverlight b/c I'm using non intel mac to watch it just fine
by Ed K on Apr 6, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am running Firefox on a PC
but had to use IETab to render it using the IE engine, after that — no prob.
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
by OnTheRivet on Apr 6, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problems in Firefox on my netbook. Just click and go.
Actually, I got a blank screen the first time I clicked, but hit refresh and it came up immediately.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's hope so
otherwise, I’ll just buy the damn Paint Withard
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our Danish friends goes live in 5 minutes
All together now: kameloso
No longer that I call them tights, I call them freedom ware.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 6, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
etb live now!
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
with commentary~~ imagine that
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
52k to go
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Contrast
Hilarious difference between Universal and Spanish radio! Zen vs caffeine x 100
by Steno on Apr 6, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for all those having trouble with WinMedia Player
this is working fine for me.
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The countryside is very pretty.
And I think I caught a glimpse of Dekker once—well, it was a Lotto guy with hair sticking out of his helmet, anyway.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fairly long flat stretch here...next 15 km about
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how did that happen?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat's me- they took a wrong turn into Catalonia?
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a fairly major wrong turn!
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but I saw this raod sign
left- Basque
right- Catalonia
straight- Latvia
They went right I’m afraid
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Earthquake in Italy
A not-insignificant one. The epicenter appeared to be in L’Aquila, which last showed up as a stage finish at the Giro in 2005.
by Sui Juris on Apr 6, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Portugueses news
said, 90 casualties in Italy:(
by semprenaroda on Apr 6, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
woah
jsut checked in…is there really 3 cofidis riders in the break?
"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten
by Hons on Apr 6, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God dam Ed
You made one flat. That’s power
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Canadian nat champ
has a mechanical :(
"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten
by Hons on Apr 6, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still, I won't count on them not abandoning him...
…just when it will cause maximum humiliation and psychological damage.
by Ed K on Apr 6, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
emmmm
totally lost here…
I was wondering about Noval though, those two used to be joint to the hip….
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still are until the road goes up, then sbj and chechu take over
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Noval not on the startlist
1 CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto Spain
2 ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar Spain
3 BRAJKOVIC Janez Slovenia
4 NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel Spain
5 RUBIERA VIGIL José Luis Spain
6 HORNER Christopher United States
7 HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus Spain
8 KIREYEV Roman Kazahkstan
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus should be good.
not sure about Popo though.
more importantly, who is the DS?
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yates, according to the start list.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm digging the lack of commentary.
Wouldn’t work if it were a confusing race, but one small group of escapees getting chased down by peloton I can follow without trouble. I’m on full screen and enjoying the scenery.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You might find the Basque commentary on ETB useful ;-)
I
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The language doesn't matter so much if I can make out the names.
Right now, I just don’t even need the names.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should be coming up to a false flat leading to a cat 2 climb
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Climbs are good.
Well, when watching from the comfort of the couch, that is.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still 10 km to the top of the cat 2
then a cat 3 in 10 more km then a cat 2 3 km after that
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have to say
moi, I prefer the tropical ones
by rbjhan on Apr 6, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1000
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
26km, gap 48 secs
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gap just ticking away..34, 33, 32, 31
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
31 secs
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Spanish weather in Belgium
Belgian weather in Spain. Someone messed up.
No longer that I call them tights, I call them freedom ware.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 6, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope.. usually rains during pais vasco
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cofidis guy gets caught
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anxious to see
first clash betwenn Andy and Conta!!
by semprenaroda on Apr 6, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Serrano and Pfannberger
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IF PEOPLE GET NUMBERS I CAN MATCH THEM UP SP P OST NUMBERS
by ursula on Apr 6, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pfuuuu....nhbairger
and oither Fuji"
by semprenaroda on Apr 6, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alltogether now, I think.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do believe Bert vs Andy is about to commence
by Ed K on Apr 6, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ya think?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have an excellent grasp of the obvious...
and I can pick out very skinny people really well even without commentators.
by Ed K on Apr 6, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is Paulinho at front?
the image isn’t good
by semprenaroda on Apr 6, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jani i think
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or sbj
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just figure out which is skinnier
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
caisse train up front now
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So the camera can more easily pick out the letters 'F-U CONI' painted on top of their helmets?
Sorry, not enough coffee this morning.
by Ed K on Apr 6, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did they catch the break?
Went to make a cup of tea and lost the thread….
by Albertina on Apr 6, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
zoom... love how the camera picks them up from in front
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one of them
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 6, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
18k
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
euskies look strong
5 of them right behind CdE
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Basque country sure is pretty.
Team Red Shorts--Let us show you what we've got
by majope on Apr 6, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone spotted any lottos in the front group?
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Apr 6, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The basques vs the castellans apparently upsaging spain vs luxembourgue today
by Ed K on Apr 6, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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