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Mid-Race Power Poll

Well, we have a pretty good idea now of where this is headed. Chances are we have a serious two-man nailbiter on our hands, with maybe a third insurgent in the mix. And there are a lot of places for that story to change rather dramatically still. Here goes:

1. (2) Denis Menchov, Rabobank ↑

Last time: "Menchov is content to make early moves and hold on. If he bests Levi on stage 10 or 12 and gets into pink, they'll have to literally rip the jersey off his back."

Cropped_girbecco_mediumNow: Good god! He's the story of the Giro so far, by a longshot. Yeah, Di Luca's exploits were exciting from a day-by-day kind of view, but there has been one decisive mountain stage and one decisive time trial, both won by Menchov. And now they will have to literally rip the jersey off his back. I'm not sure his team is terribly weak either; he has Ten Dam and Ardila to help him over the hills. Losing Horrillo, a true hammerhead, hurts more than just to think about though.

Girbecco Says: "Hm, those Rabobank jokes don't seem very funny right now."

 

Star-divide

2. (1) Levi Leipheimer, Astana  ↓

Last time: "His advantages over Menchov in the remaining stages are slim to nothing, so he will have his work cut out, but I see two factors in his favor [final ITT, third week peak]."

Now: Well, he had better be saving something, because he will need it. His advantages over Menchov are practically nil. In general you might argue that he's a slightly better climber and cronoman, but the difference was always marginal and so far Menchov looks stronger in both. If Levi can use his team to draw even in the mountains, that Rome ITT will be one of the most exciting grand tour stages ever. But between the double-GT winner and the guy who shoots for podium places, whom would you favor?

Mini_girbecco_mediumGirbecco Says: "That Rabo DS who said that Levi's chase on stage 8 was the sign of a lack of confidence? Might be the sharpest observation in the history of Rabo management."

3. (5) Danilo Di Luca, Lpr ↑

Last time: "Even if it comes down to Rome, he won't have the luxury of battling an aging Simoni to hold his lead; instead it'll be a guy like Levi or Menchov, who could eat his lunch."

Now: Adios, lunch. The Killer will remain dangerous, and if the mountain stages continue to be just semi-selective, he could claw back into pink on time bonuses. He also has a tough, frisky, veteran Giro team at his disposal. This thing isn't done. But I really, really don't like his chances in the final ITT.

Mini_girbecco_mediumGirbecco Says: "He might yet have the second-to-last laugh. Surely the Giro, which rewards intermediate sprints, fair play, and best shoes, will have a trophy for him."

4. (3) Carlos Sastre, Cervélo Test Team ↓

Last time: "If he stays close on the Cinque Terre ITT, then he has a clear shot to duplicate his Alpe d'Huez glory on the Block Haus."

Now: Hm... his pink dreams are on the brink of extinction, but not dead. He trailed the Tour at a similar point last year by about 1.30. Now he's got to make up double that, without a monster team or an Alpe d'Huez on the schedule. Probably just out of reach unless he trims at least a minute heading into the Block Haus, and even then he'd need 40" in hand to hang on in the final ITT. Plenty of racing left, lucky for Carlos, but he's a bit of a longshot.

Mini_girbecco_mediumGirbecco Says: "The real question is, can he pick up the extra 2.20 he needs to keep Cervelo's second-place streak going?"

5. (10) Franco Pellizotti, Liquigas ↑

Last time: "Still, ol' Save Ferris is only 1.27 down and far too threatening to allow up the road. He is still very valuable to Roberto Amadio as a card to play, when everyone is parked on Basso's wheel."

Now: Who's the Liquigas captain now? I suppose Basso, but the fact that Pellizotti moved up so high in the classification today makes him all the more dangerous when team tactics begin. I doubt either one will ever get into pink, but as far as chasing that last podium spot, this is going to be one damned interesting week.

Mini_girbecco_mediumGirbecco Says: "Putting that picture of Mr. Rooney on his bars really did the trick today!"

6. (4) Ivan Basso, Liquigas ↓

Last time: "His whole race hangs in the balance of Stage 12, or a HUUUUGE mountain escape."

Now: Heh heh... I suppose that could read "a huge escape or several small ones." Given his time trialing, there's almost no way he crawls out of a three-minute hole without some help from Levi and Mencho. Maybe he can send some extremely cold ice water to their rooms right after the race today. Still, for all the disappointment leveled his way, I would say presumably-undoped-Basso is right about where you could hope to find a guy coming off a two-year hitch. He did respectably today, so he should manage well in the coming week.

Mini_girbecco_mediumGirbecco Says: "When does his sister arrive at the Giro to relieve him of the media attention?"

7. (6) Michael Rogers, Columbia ↓

Last time: "Given his history of injuries and bad luck, it's almost impossible to predict how he'll fare over the remaining mega-tests (stages 10, 12, 17). If the Pais Vasco is any guide, the answer is meh-solid!-meh, which probably doesn't get it done."

Now: Solid turned to meh today, which should tell you all you need to know about Columbia's hopes of ever seeing the maglia rosa again. Champions of week one again... and probably have another stage in them. But a GC team they are not.

Mini_girbecco_mediumGirbecco Says: "Rogers: it's Australian for seventh, mate!"

8. (NR) Marzio Bruseghin, Lampre Ngc ↑

Last time: crickets...

Now: Seems to be getting stronger as the race goes on, and he should like most of what's to come, except maybe the Block Haus. He's a solid candidate to move up a spot or two at the end, maybe even threaten the top five, though I doubt it.

Mini_girbecco_mediumGirbecco Says: "At least he doesn't have to worry about domestique duties anymore."

9. (8) Thomas Lövkvist, Columbia ↑ ↔ ↓

Last time: "I'm struggling with when to pull the trigger on my Holy-Shit-Lövkvist-is-the-real-deal post. Am still holding off... Tommy Lov just hasn't had the responsibility in a grand tour before."

Now: Am still holding off. There are only a handful of youngsters who rocket to grand tour stardom with so little experience, and Tommy Lov isn't one of them. He will have a race to be proud of when it's all done, and is a decent candidate for a final-week stage someplace.

Mini_girbecco_mediumGirbecco Says: "If there's one thing this race desperately needs, it's more trash-talking Swedes. Hell, EVERY sport needs more of them."

10. (NR) Lance Armstrong, Astana ↑ ↔ ↓

Last time: cough

Now: Getting stronger... flying higher... gonna fly... FLY... FLIIIIIIIIIIYYY!!!

Mini_girbecco_mediumGirbecco Says: "Holy smokes! Lance is at the Giro?!"

 

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As it turns out

I’m really not that good at predictions, who knew?

I really thought Columbia would do better. They still put 5 guys in the top 30, but only 1 in the top 15. DiLuca was impressive, say what you will, the dude has heart. Menchov was just awesome, that was one of the most brutal TT displays I’ve seen. He looked like he was trying to beat the course into submission.

I think you’ve laid out the rest of the race pretty well. Astana will try and steamroll everyone, Menchov will stay glued to LL’s wheel and Ferris and Sastre will need to attack (Basso too, but we know that won’t happen).

Meanwhile, Dave Z -118th @ 10:42 back. Seriously, WTF? That’s just over a minute better than Petacchi.

"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!

by jsallee00 on May 21, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well I'm sure no one thought DZ could win this thing........................12 votes?!

how dare you make so many people look so foolish Zabriskie! And Petacchi finished ahead of Cav, which makes the head to head 2-2 I believe.

In Chauncey we trust!

by Phil H. on May 21, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Final TT

The last stage is going to pretty wild.

That ain’t no out and back TT. The first half is ridiculously technical. Just look at that ‘s’ turn at the Piazza del popolo. And I’ll put money on there being trolley tracks on that section.

"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten

by Hons on May 21, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep but it will sure be beautiful to behold with that background scenery

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on May 21, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is with the zigzag before the Piazza del Popolo?! Crowd pleaser?

by tedvdw on May 21, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, looked it up on gmaps. Sorry, carry on!

by tedvdw on May 21, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

View halfway down

Piazza del Popolo
Northern most part of the course, view down one of the the hairpins in the Viale Gabriele d’Anunzio, Piazza del Popolo down on the right.

by tedvdw on May 21, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH NO!

parked cars

Time for another protest. If everyone is drafting can they DQ the whole peleton?

"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten

by Hons on May 21, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and right behind the Parking Verboten sign!

However, they do seem to be moveable and the P sign isn’t. Hmm.

by tedvdw on May 21, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can work your way up and down the course

starting here. It’s not long or particularly hard but it could cost a lot to a rider who tries too hard to squeeze an extra second on the turns.

by Monty. on May 22, 2009 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tramlines

Apart from a tiny stretch at the back of the Colosseum, where the road is almost certainly wide enough for them to be, ahem, coned off, it seems to me this route totally avoids them.

Parked cars, on the other hand, are one of the sights of Rome. Especially when parked at 45 degrees.

by civetta on May 21, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The other thing

is not cobbles, exactly, but that kind of block paving you get in lots of Italian cities. In Rome it’s of a slippery & not very porous igneous rock . Skating rink in rain. And when it rains, it really does rain. It probably won’t but…

by civetta on May 21, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about chucking in a few gladiators?

and simultaneously running a chariot race in the Circus Maximus.

by Monty. on May 22, 2009 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or you could just invite the moron who tried to grab DiLuca

and a few hundred of his closest friends and kindred spirit for a weekend in Rome.

by Jens on May 22, 2009 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Levi and Menchov are neck and neck

I am pre-ordering the DVD. Seriously beautiful stage.

Abruzziamo!

by Chris... on May 21, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Levi says Menchov was better today

“no ifs and or buts” happy with second (from twitter). He rode his limit. Rogers dissapointed but says Giro not over. I expect him and Columbia to do some funky stuff.

by Markk on May 21, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So tell me this

We’ve got the top two here who are non-Italians plus #4. I know it’s waaaaay premature but when was the last time that coming down the stretch (and, again, we aren’t quite there yet) the top of the GC at the Giro was dominated by non-Italians?

by ursula on May 21, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1995...

1. Rominger
2. Berzin
3. Ugrumov

by Grzdylu on May 21, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There you go...

Thanks. Been awhile.

by ursula on May 21, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

"Action without thought is a form of insanity, thought without action is a crime"
- Albert Einstien

by boxnard on May 22, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may catch a bunch of crap for this but

I think Menchov may be on his top form already and we may see a bit of a down turn. Maybe not, but it may happen. As far as the differences between him and Levi, they’re minuscule and may come down to the teams. That and Levi may still get better in the third week as he usually does. I have no clue, just theorizing.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on May 21, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Minuscule indeed, but I think Menchov is more rested and able to strike a little harder.

Levi is the Energizer bunny for sure and has a stronger team but the decisive times left will most likely come down to man vs. man. I think Girbecco is right to say they will have to rip the jersey from him now.

by sminer on May 21, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

time will tell

but I think this is the question on which the entire Giro hinges.

Abruzziamo!

by Chris... on May 21, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What...

you mean the question “who will win the Giro?” ;-)

"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten

by Hons on May 21, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad Horner isn't around for the last week.

"I didn't look for him and I didn't see him. If you base your race on another rider, most of the time you lose."

Tom Boonen

by Drew... on May 22, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no crap from me,

Levi fan here.

But, I do wonder how long his form can last?
He has won every race he entered this year, he had a month break before the Giro, how will he do in the last, brutal week?

by Bruce Suomi on May 21, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elephant in the room is.....

the fact that Levi has never shown he can win a GT and Menchov has. Levi has never demonstrated that he can hang with the big guys in the mountains when the going gets tough and when he is the target. Menchov has and that fact makes me favor Menchov over Levi.

I think that Di Luca will just go hell bent over a few stages to try and get as many points back as possible. He will bury himself to win this.

by ncmussell on May 21, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Spot on

This Giro was Levi’s best shot ever to take a Grand Tour. But, to do it, he had to take the lead over the other GC guys today and use the Astana armada to hold on. In sum, the historic evaluation of his career came down to today. That is why he is quoted as saying the close lose was “hard to take.” Indeed.

by DeathBredon on May 21, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a little overstated me thinks
In sum, the historic evaluation of his career came down to today.

There is a whole lot of racing left, including two summit finishes and a 15k flat time trial. Before crowning Levi with the perennial bridesmaid tag, it may be wise to wait until they actually race their bikes next week.

Do I think Levi will catch Menchov? Probably not, but by no means am I putting the nail in his coffin yet.

by PopUp Rolen on May 21, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little over dramatic aren't we

Today was by no means the evaluation of his career, that’s ludicrous. If he wins, he wins. If he doesn’t, he doesn’t.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on May 22, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so . . .

 . . . if he loses the Giro, which is likely according to viciously neutral observers: London book makers, then the ITT is likely to be seen as the day that got away. Moreover, this Giro is extremely likely to be Levi’s last, best chance at a Grand Tour.

In sum, had he had the panache of Menchov, then he’d be on track for the Giro win and also be in the mix in other Grand Tours. As it stands, it looks as if he’ll only be remembered as a great Lt. for Lance.

Don’t get me wrong — Levi has had a solid career. And, he just missed yesterday on the test of very good to great.

by DeathBredon on May 22, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren't we forgetting

The final TT?

If Leipheimer is behind Menchov by 30-40 seconds, then its going to be pretty close at the end, given his better form in flat TTs.

I wouldn’t be so confident that Menchov has this sewn up.

As a fan of both of them, I’m really interested to see how this plays out.

by Mark T1979 on May 22, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

If Menchov is in pink, I bet he finishes about 20" down on the stage. But it would be incredibly close.

Abruzziamo!

by Chris... on May 22, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"the panache of Menchov"

There’s a statement that’s never been made before.

A bit of a reality check:

Leipheimer has never been a lieutenant for Armstrong. He got kicked off US Postal after getting 3d in the 01 Vuelta. (Ok, maybe not kicked off—but in those days there was room for only 1 US GT contender on USP),

And, while yesterday was a test of sorts, I’m not so sure that Leipheimer didn’t win by losing. There’s a lot of road left to ride, and Rabobank has Ten Dam . . . and . . . whoever else they pay off to help them control the field.

Leipheimer has a decent support staff, plus he can benefit from the Sub-zero Freezer and other kitchen appliances that LPR and Leaky will throw at Rabo.

In other words, you might be mistaking the mid-term for the final: and it looks like the final exam will occur on the streets of Rome.

by R Mc on May 22, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only way Menchov loses . . .

 . . . is if Di Luca can pull something tricky. And, he has been full of surprises so far. Perhaps, all the Italian teams will work for him against Menchov. But, that still may not be enough.

by DeathBredon on May 21, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not right

Levi for sure would have won the Vuelta last year had he known he were the team leader. To say that he has never shown he can win is not correct. Not to mention he is at least as good a climber as Menchov. Don’t be crowning Menchov the new Contador just yet.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on May 22, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure would have won, eh?

he was not the leader, meaning no pressure — that’s one of the big problems.

say he and Bert on different teams, Bert attacked him in the mountains, real hard.
he sure would have won? I don’t think so.

by rbjhan on May 22, 2009 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Like I’ve said before, real leaders make sure they get to lead one way or another.

"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

by Lopex on May 22, 2009 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

methinks JB knows what he is doing

Levi is always his plan B, there must be a reason for it.

Basso, Contador…er, more like a winner?

by rbjhan on May 22, 2009 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Menchov is no Contador . . .

but Levi didn’t win in Spain. And he is not going to win the Giro now. And he won’t win the Tour. Not this year, not next year, not ever.

I’m just saying that, had Levi ripped off a jaw dropping ITT yesterday, then history would have remembered him in an entirely different light. He’d be like Andy Hampstein, Giro winner; not Levi the good Lt.

by DeathBredon on May 22, 2009 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Been thinking

about what a horrid curse being labeled a GT contender is.

There are probably only 5 guys in the world at any one time who can thrive on that pressure as a u-25 rider. Lance didn’t have to deal with it. Indurain didn’t.

Lemond did—and he just BARELY kept it together while he was riding. Fignon . . . well . . . interesting case.

Di Luca was tapped as a potential strong guy from 01—but no one really put pressure on him until 05.

More recently:
Contador. Party of one.

Rogers: been looked at as a potential gc winner for the better part of a decade, right?

Danielson: whewww . . . .

It seems like it would be psychologically easier to take the Sastre/Van de Velde/Indurain path: learn the ropes as a domestique, discover that you have the physiological tools, and develop the psychological strength it takes.

by R Mc on May 21, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cadel has had trouble coping too . . .

. . . as have numerous “Great French Hopes” that failed to deliver.

by DeathBredon on May 21, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lövkvist has a bad case of it

He won the Circuit de la Sarthe at age 20. Two people had before, Hinault and Lemond. And that set the storyline for the next three years……..

by Jens on May 22, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Columbia

is the perfect team for him. He should race more in the US. Nobody has any idea who he is, even in Seattle where it’s like 30% Swedes.

Abruzziamo!

by Chris... on May 22, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, thanks :-)

Dude just looked good to me. And still does, really.

Very intriguing these next stages. The finish on Saturday is very hard – Sorta classicslike. Too bad Cunego’s form is apparently non-existent, it would be a nice spot for a stage win. I’d guess Diluca takes it, though, or Garzelli.

by gavia on May 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cunego has to show up for one stage

I don’t think he goes home from the Giro without at least one real hard effort. I say top 3 on this stage although I agree that Di Luca will probably want it more.

by ncmussell on May 21, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gawd

Don’t get between Di Luca and a stage finish right now. He’ll be desperate for every finale he can claw his way into.

Abruzziamo!

by Chris... on May 22, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Sastre...

2006 – TdF-3, VaE-4;
2007 – TdF-4, VaE-2;
2008 – TdF-1, VaE-3;
2009 – GdI ~ 3 – 5 probably

Very impressive…

by Grzdylu on May 21, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep, for sure

He’ll have to do something big to get on the podium here, but he’s certainly on good form. Between the Blockhaus and Monte Petrano, he’ll have some road to work with. Should be fun to watch, anyway.

by gavia on May 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to bad horner is out...if he would have had a good tt, it

would have given Astana more leverage with tactics.

by Cycho on May 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

looking for the photos

this orange combined with pink, is so outitude….

by semprenaroda on May 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Four summit finishes still to come...

1. Bologna on the San Luca (Sat? Sun?)
2. Monte Petrano – Monday
3. Blockhaus – Wednesday
4. Vesuvio – Friday?

Not one of those is trivial, with the least of them being the San Luca finish which is actually the finish to one of the (lesser) fall classics. Petrano, Blockhaus and Vesuvio… leg breakers all.

Respect the Shit List; it respects you.

by crashdan on May 22, 2009 2:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Watch DiLuca winning the Giro dell'Emilia

last autumn here. He has to be favourite for this stage

by Monty. on May 22, 2009 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one benefit of not taking the pink for Levi is

All he has to do is follow wheels for now and let Rabobank do the work. Then if/when possible, try to isolate Menchov.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on May 22, 2009 2:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's for the better at all...

We all know how strong Astana is and how good Levi is when it comes to ‘wheelsucking’. Attacking just isn’t his thing and it’ll be extremely hard for him to
1. Make Menchov suffer with an attack
2. Finish better then Di Luca

If he had pink now, Astana could control the bunch for him and he could finish it in Rome. Now I just don’t see it happen: The chance Menchov or Di Luca wins is bigger.

by Reeppp on May 22, 2009 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

The dream is over. It was nice while it lasted. But it is over.

by DeathBredon on May 22, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see . . .

a couple of stages ago.

Think what would have happened had Save Ferris and the other guys decided to ride in that break that Leipheimer bridged up to . . .

by R Mc on May 22, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isolating only works

if you end up with several riders who are A. serious threats to the singled out leader, B. able to escape from the group and C. willing to cooperate ie. take turns trying to escape and not chase each other!

I’m sure Menchov is happy to let Sastre, Basso or Pellizotti take a minute or two. That leaves Leipheimer and Di Luca as serious threats. On the flats, no matter how weak Rabobank is perceived to be, I don’t see anyone of the contenders escaping. On the big climbs, Menchov appears to be stronger than Leipheimer and Di Luca. That leaves intermediate, rolling stages. I foresee problems with anyone cooperating with Di Luca, so Leipheimer won’t get away. So the only lasting threat to Menchov is Di Luca gaining seconds like he has been doing all along. It’s a serious threat because the ITT in Rome seems quite technical and not very long; not much of an opportunity for Menchov to retake the lead should he need to.

by tedvdw on May 22, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Isolating someone who easily holds your wheel all day is of no use.

DiLuca and bonus seconds is a bigger threat. Although Menchov did outsprint DiLuca on Alpe di Siusi. So this sure will get interesting.

"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

by Lopex on May 22, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well-put

I think it’s also possible that that attackers will neutralize one another – everyone will be trying to get in the winning move, while Menchov chills, follows wheels, and lets them all wear each other out.

Agree also that Diluca’s ability to snatch time bonuses is a possible threat to Menchov.

There’s a lot of climbing left – I think the GC will reshuffle some before Roma. But Menchov is riding really well, and I’m not seeing any real signs of weakness at this point.

by gavia on May 22, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Four uphill finishes still!

Tomorrow, with the relatively short and steep “Ardennes” climb at the finish, tailor-made for Di Luca, should be telling.

by tedvdw on May 22, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For sure

And these next stages through the Appenino look hard, especially considering how fast they raced the first week. These early stages have been ridiculous, really. I think some riders are going to pay for that.

Diluca’s comment, “the Giro starts agains today,” is a good one, I think. Surprising things happen deep in the third week of a grand tour, especially with so many hard stages to go.

by gavia on May 22, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be so quick to write Levi off

The last time-trail is

a) pretty much pancake flat
b) technical

Both of these things play into Leipheimer’s favour, certainly over Menchov.

Leipheimer is surely better over a flat TT in terms of straight-out speed.

And more than that, he seems to be a better technical rider – just going by yesterday’s TT, I think he pulled something like 30 sec back on Menchov on the descent from the final time check.

So if he hangs with Menchov in the mountains (and by that I mean he maintains his 40-second deficit) he is by no means out of this.

by Mark T1979 on May 22, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

14 seconds

In 16k

Bork, bork, bork!

by TheFigurehead on May 22, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flat is good

Technical, not so sure. I saw where he was happy with the ITT he won in Castilla y Leon because it was so straight. But the tecnical stuff in Rome is not that much, and there are some rather long straightaways, particularly down the home stretch.

Abruzziamo!

by Chris... on May 22, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

Not so good for Levi then.

Probably has to get back within at least 20 sec.

by Mark T1979 on May 22, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Levi HAD to be in Pink after the ITT . . .

and Cap’t B. basically admitted as much in the post TT interview.

by DeathBredon on May 22, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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