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Giro d'Italia, Stage 18... LIVE! [& Post Stage]

Giro-live-main_mediumA few words about the points competition. Danilo Di Luca leads with 146 points, comfortably ahead of his podium mates Mencho and Save Ferris, at 113 and 103 respectively. Seems like about half the time the Giro points competition turns into a consolation prize for the GC competitors rather than a sprinters' gig, and this year was very much one of those years. Alessandro Petacchi lies 50 points -- two stage wins -- back of Di Luca, but he's pretty much out of road at this point. Friday is Vesuvio, Saturday kicks  up at the end, and Sunday is the time trial. Over and out.

That said, Petacchi has been part of the sprinting story, overshadowed by Cavendish in the end but with Cavendish gone Petacchi is the last, best man standing. He will be anxious to shut out Allan Davis, Robbie Hunter, et al. Problem is, as soon as "the right break" gets away, this race could be over. Petacchi's Lpr team surely won't be squandered chasing down a stage win, and Quick Step and Barloworld might not have the power to reel in a break of any consequence. The weather is still warm, particularly in those sunny southern valleys... in other words, this has breakaway sketched all over it. Enjoy!

Update: Results!

  1. Michele Scarponi (Ita) Serramenti
  2. Félix Cardenas (Col) Barloworld
  3. Danny Pate (USA) Garmin
  4. Lars Ytting Bak (Den) Team Saxo Bank
  5. Dmytro Grabovskyy (Ukr) ISD

Since this was the transitional stage we all expected, with no effect on the overall, I won't bother with a separate post-stage thread. Keep chatting here, if you like.

 

 

 

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So 3 stars for today...

I like to give them to Jens! but what’s with him this Giro? He’s not looking good.. Voekcler? Muahaha..
But who..

  • Pauwels
  • Lopez Garcia
  • M. Fothen

    But man that was difficult.. There are so many riders who could join the break.. Maybe Davis himself..

  • Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 3:03 AM EDT reply actions  

    Davis

    I can totally see Davis going in the break. He can climb enough to make it over the first hill and he would surely like to win today.

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Hmm first dot has to be 3 starts
    second 2 stars
    third 1 star

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 3:04 AM EDT reply actions  

    About the favorites of the day...

    If it’s podiumwise I will provide the 3 stars to Crash.. and Goodmorning everyone

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

    btw.. Have you seen my translated peaco of art about Menchov yesterday?!

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

    you mean

    the Google translated version?

    yes, I’ve seen that…hei hei

    by rbjhan on May 28, 2009 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Hey it was a bit of google and a little bit of FrinKing...

    But no thanks.. I got it ;)

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Af few words about the KOM competition

    With the remaining KOM-opportunities in the Giro there are a maximum of 33 KOM-points available for one rider. Garzelli’s lead is 22 points so Di Luca or Grivko will really have to storm all remaining climbs to get him out of the green jersey.

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 5:00 AM EDT reply actions  

    that's the whole point in the post stage thread yesterday

    after stage 15 Garzelli’s lead was only 10 points.
    Grivko went into several breadaways earlier, picked up a lot of points.
    Garzelli can’t do that, so he really needed to sprint for position in the final climbs — despite what killer fans were saying.

    by rbjhan on May 28, 2009 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

    15 remaining KOM points are awarded to the first rider on the Vesuvio

    This makes it harder for Grivko to strike using a breakaway. Di Luca won’t spend energy on the climbs during the stage I guess.

    So putting money on Garzelli in green in Rome is a pretty safe bet.

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

    don't really want to argue about this,

    but before yesterday Garzelli’s lead wasn’t 10 points. He had 12 more than Grivko and 18 more than Di Luca. But yes, the KOM points are important.

    by amarone on May 28, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

    cheerleaders at beach volleyball?

    "Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

    by umwolverine on May 28, 2009 6:19 AM EDT reply actions  

    they're showing food again...

    "Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

    by umwolverine on May 28, 2009 6:46 AM EDT reply actions  

    Sprinters left in the race

    Alessandro Petacchi (LPR)
    Edvald Boasson Hagen (THR)
    Allan Davis (QST)
    Davide Vigano (FUJ)
    Francesco Gavazzi (LAM)
    Robert Hunter (BAR)
    Ben Swift (KAT)
    Matthew Goss (SAX)
    Sébastien Hinault (ALM)
    Juan José Haedo (SAX)

    (In points competition order)

    Have I missed anyone?

    by William H on May 28, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions  

    Forster

    There are a few others including Gilbert and T Fothen but Forster is probably the biggest threat to win a bunch sprint.

    by mysterion on May 28, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

    don't forget stage 2 of tour of belgium is today... coverage starts around 14.00 local

    "Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

    by umwolverine on May 28, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

    Action in the Giro..

    Simoni attacks

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

    Peloton splits on the climb

    40" gap? No idea who is where though.

    Mark

    by mpw5 on May 28, 2009 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

    good going there

    "Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

    by umwolverine on May 28, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

    another sunny day in italy... tho it is distorting the video feed

    "Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

    by umwolverine on May 28, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

    Cartoon just shown on RAI:

    “I love the Processo alla Tappa. It’s a bit unfair, like most trials. But at least it’s short.”

    by civetta on May 28, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions  

    4man break -- simoni, lpr, garmin, astana

    "Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

    by umwolverine on May 28, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

    garmin is danny pate

    "Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

    by umwolverine on May 28, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

    4 men break caught

    Now Scarponi tries and is marked by 21 others.

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

    Is priu Live?

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

    If you mean RAI Sport Piu, yes & no

    They’re showing the odd live shot but still raking over yesterday. Bit irritating since I have the sound turned down.

    by civetta on May 28, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

    No.. Liveticker is behind

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Sporza is Live with ToB

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

    I can't get it to work either

    but I think that might be a software issue since I’m at work.

    by civetta on May 28, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

    There are others who had the same problem.. Or at leat I've heard

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

    yeah.. bummer that

    "Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

    by umwolverine on May 28, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

    It's another flat stage isn't it?

    I’ll wait for the Ardennes and the ITT.

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Previous stage was fabolous.. This will be probably a sprinnt

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Nusport ticker says

    27 Popovych (Oek, AST) +16:43
    122 Bosisio (Ita, LPR) +50:08
    153 Scarponi (Ita, SDA) +51:15
    86 Pate (VS, GRM) +3:44:50

    Have 45 secs

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

    Why is Pate in a breakaway

    I thought Garmin used the Giro to practice TTT-ing within the bunch?

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

    poor Garmin

    I’d almost feel sorry for them if it wasn’t for their pretty-well near lack of interest in this race. When you read Wiggins was aiming to finish top at Cinque Terre & yet none of them had even recc’ed the course… gah.

    by civetta on May 28, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

    top five

    top would’ve been stretching the point…

    by civetta on May 28, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Grabovsky (ISD) has bridged

    & there is still a group of 20 ahead of the Maglia Rosa group.

    by civetta on May 28, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

    Horner

    Took a small crack in his left shinbone home as a souvenir from the Giro. After one week of rest his leg still hurt and the echo that was made afterwards showed the crack. He’ll have to rest for 2 weeks now. He hopes to make it to the TdF.

    Source

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

    CN reports it too

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/may09/may28news2

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Among the 20 men chase group

    138 Seeldraeyers (Bel, QST) +17:24
    179 Sivtsov (WRu, THR) +18:58
    8 F. Masciarelli (Ita, ASA) +19:31
    62 Deignan (Ier, CTT) +1:39:14
    91 Gio. Visconti (Ita, ISD) +2:15:16
    154 A. Bertolini (Ita, SDA) +2:22:44

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

    +1

    His crash was getting some heavy replay action earlier & looked worse every time.

    by civetta on May 28, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Popovych, Pate, Bosisio, Scarponi, Francesco Masciarelli, Zeits, Cardenas, Voeckler, Lopez, Deignan, Dean, Visconti, Grabovskyy, Gavazzi, Quinziato, Devenyns, Seeldrayers, Bertolini, Ljungblad, Lövkvist, Sivtsov, Petrov, McCartney, Bak en Vorganov

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

    If this lasts

    Who will sprint? Gavazzi and Dean? B/C-list sprinters is certainly not my area of expertise.

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Ljungblad's sprint is not that bad

    But my money is on Gavazzi.

    Bork, bork, bork!

    by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Drawback for Gavazzi

    He is the only Lampre in the break. Who will mark the attacks in the last 10 km by the likes of Scarponi and Voeckler.

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Sprint?

    Dean, Visconti, Gavazzi and Vorganov.. But it won’t be a sprint

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

    The break is about races within the race

    The top two in the young rider classification are present. Visconti leads the TV-classification and has top-5’s in both the Trofeo Fuga Cervelo classification and the Most combative classification so he’ll be active today .

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

    Top 2 young ones

    Seeldraeyers and Masciarelli

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

    What happened to Lovkvist?

    He seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth.

    by pigilito on May 28, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

    He did

    On stage 16

    Bork, bork, bork!

    by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Thanks

    I had pretty high hopes for him for my VDS team

    by pigilito on May 28, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

    GC 14-17 are in the break

    That will force teams to respond if the gap gets to large I guess. Will GCE defend Arroyo? Lampre defends Bruseghin? ALM – Valjavec? Astana – Armstrong???? ASA – Garzelli?

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

    A nice rest day for Rabobank

    "Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé

    by Lopex on May 28, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

    wtf..

    is universal showing right now?

    by Huntero on May 28, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

    ELMO?

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Ivanov leading the pelOton in Belgium

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

    velonews misspells that one

    The center of the bottom bracket is the center of the universe.

    by bikepig on May 28, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

    ;)

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

    The National Championship of France would be riding without 'ears'(?) for now

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

    Yep

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

    5 minutes, heavy rain

    And I’m off, time to make pancakes

    Bork, bork, bork!

    by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

    Tour of Belgium is entertaining.. Attack after attack..

    Breakaway now: Hoogherland ,Joly, Flens, van Avermaet +others

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

    breakaway: Steegmans, Timmer, Lagana, Louder Joseph, Maranagoni, Vanechten, Hoogherland , Flens, van Avermaet, Dupond, de Weert, Coene, Deroo

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

    anyone have details on the crash?

    The center of the bottom bracket is the center of the universe.

    by bikepig on May 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

    Di Luca and Garzelli talking,

    seemed friendly. I’d love to know what they were saying.

    by amarone on May 28, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

    I'll tell you:

    Gar: How’s it goin today Danny?

    Killer: (blank, stone-face stare)

    Gar: You’re not going to hold this against me, are you?

    Killer: (blank, stone-face stare)

    FORZA KILLER!

    by DaniloTifoso on May 28, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

    lol,

    but actually it looked like Killer was doing most of the talking. And then Garzelle put his arm on Di Luca’s back.

    by amarone on May 28, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

    six minutes must be too much

    because Rabo has the field lined out in pursuit.
    The break seems to be working together nicely. For now…..

    by MavicMoto on May 28, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

    For Rabo it's ideal

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Markus Eibegger (ELK) wond the stage in Bavaria

    Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong

    by majope on May 28, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

    Second is Stefan Denifl (ELK), followed by Linus Gerdemann (MRM)

    Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong

    by majope on May 28, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

    NAsty crash Klaas Lodewijck

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Bozic wins.. For ? And Brown

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

    Ongarato second.. Ferrari 6th

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

    And cru.. Lodewijck 8th

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

    That's going to be a while

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

    to take a while

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

    +10000000

    the way the game has gone so far, Giro will be over

    by Bruce Suomi on May 28, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

    LOL

    no love for FedEx, eh?

    by rbjhan on May 28, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Gosh how's he doing now?

    Wasn’t good last time I saw!

    Adrenalina Italiana!

    by Albertina on May 28, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

    The good break..

    Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
    Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..

    by Frinking on May 28, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Jousting with windmills again.

    by Spot of Bother on May 28, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

    …but that’s what I love about him.

    by Spot of Bother on May 28, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

    hehehehe

    he said shits-off

    The center of the bottom bracket is the center of the universe.

    by bikepig on May 28, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

    Has Deignan crashed again or were they just more injuries from yesterday?

    Either way looked painful, poor boy. As did Rodriguez’s ass earlier, virtually no shorts left. Gotta make it a sore day…

    "The main thing is to not cut yourself and bleed to death in the tub." Frankie Andreu when asked about shaving legs.

    by Helsy33 on May 28, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

    yes there was a crash....no footage...three guys

    The center of the bottom bracket is the center of the universe.

    by bikepig on May 28, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

    thanks... yeah poor Phil :(

    "The main thing is to not cut yourself and bleed to death in the tub." Frankie Andreu when asked about shaving legs.

    by Helsy33 on May 28, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I love your Frankie Andreu quote!

    The perils of leg shaving…..

    Adrenalina Italiana!

    by Albertina on May 28, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I used to when I lived in Scotland.

    The bathtub was the only warm place in the flat. I had a board I used as a desk, and would hunker down into the nice hot water and write letters.

    Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong

    by majope on May 28, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Really?! Haha.

    You used to live in Scotland? Whereabouts?

    Adrenalina Italiana!

    by Albertina on May 28, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

    St. Andrews.

    Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong

    by majope on May 28, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

    not far

    from Bridge of Allan. if you’ve been to the U of Stirling and seen Airthrey Castle, that’s the place

    by nicknorco on May 28, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Lovely area!

    Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong

    by majope on May 28, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

    it is indeed!

    i’ll be passing through there in a few weeks

    by nicknorco on May 28, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

    My Mum was born in St Andrew's :-)

    Nice place. I have lots of family in Aberdeen so go north of the border reasonably often.

    Adrenalina Italiana!

    by Albertina on May 28, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

    St Andrews

    is the only place I’ve ever known to have a fog so thick that you genuinely couldn’t see across the street.

    by Monty. on May 28, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

    rarer than the yeti or antler boy

    is this sighting of orange and blue jerseys in the break. i checked the start list and apparently, it is Team Garmin.

    The center of the bottom bracket is the center of the universe.

    by bikepig on May 28, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

    any idea

    what happened to the argyle boys? i mean, wow!

    by billcicletta on May 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Other than Farrar's second place finishes...

    they’ve had a dreadful Giro. Placed a lot of their eggs in the TTT basket, which didn’t go as planned even with multiple TT national champs on the squad, CVV crashed out unfortunately, so I think the team has been reeling from not achieving any of their goals. Tough on the morale, I’d think.

    by Spot of Bother on May 28, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Other than the TTT, I'm not sure how interested they are

    (as I said above). Sure, they weren’t anticipating CVV getting injured like that, & doubtless they would have liked to nick a win with Farrar, but beyond that, it’s training for July, isn’t it? & even if CVV had been able to continue I think it still would’ve been. Pity really.

    by civetta on May 28, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Higher expectations strike again.

    They lost the TTT by seconds, which must have been very disappointing, but they have put Farrar on the podium 3 times this Giro—last year the TTT was their only Giro result. And apart from losing their GC guy, they’re very similarly placed to where they were last year after Stage 17 of the Giro:

    2009: 5 riders left, at places 64, 88, 142, 153, 157
    2008: 5 riders left, at places 40 (CVV), 68, 93, 136, 144

    And here’s an update on how they’re doing this year relative to last:

    Overall record this year: 5 wins, 17 second places, 10 thirds for 32 total podium spots
    Overall record last year at this time: 4 wins, 8 second places, 6 thirds for 18 total podium spots.

    They really are doing better this year.

    Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong

    by majope on May 28, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

    true - mostly

    Actual wins don’t stack up on that basis though. It’s not that I do expect that much, more that I think they risk a lot, too much probably, by focussing so narrowly on one target. But given the resources they’ve got that’s what they’ve chosen to do.

    by civetta on May 28, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

    +1000

    The center of the bottom bracket is the center of the universe.

    by bikepig on May 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

    30km break is 3'18

    The center of the bottom bracket is the center of the universe.

    by bikepig on May 28, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

    Gad, both groups are flying

    Wonder if the breakers can stay away. They certainly have some leg power if enough contribute

    by pigilito on May 28, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

    I think this is comprehensive, but am not sure.

     Popovych and Zeits (Astana), Bak and McCartney (Saxo Bank), Pate and Dean (Garmin), Bosisio (LPR), Scarponi (Diquigiovanni), Siutsou and Lovkvist (Columbia), Petrov (Katusha), Lopez Garcia (Caisse d’Epargne), Masciarelli (Acqua e Sapone), Cardenas (Barloworld), Voeckler (Bouygues), Deignan (Cervelo), Dean, Visconti, Grabovskyy (ISD), Gavazzi (Lampre) , Quinziato (Liquigas), Devenyns and Seeldrayers (Quick Step), Bertolini (Diquigiovanni), Ljungblad (Silence-Lotto), Vorganov (Xacobeo Galicia).

    by pigilito on May 28, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

    visconti...

    deserves the win. He has been in so many breaks.

    by Huntero on May 28, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

    +1

    I’d like to see that

    Adrenalina Italiana!

    by Albertina on May 28, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

    What a morning!!

    Went for a wonderful ride this morning. Low 60’s, no wind, very little traffic!

    Now I’m sitting here with all you wonderful people, sipping espresso and enjoying the GIRO!

    And…KILLER IS GOING TO WIN!!

    Bold prediction: DiLuca takes Vesuvio with enough time to hold the pink all the way!

    VAI DANILO!!!

    FORZA KILLER!

    by DaniloTifoso on May 28, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

    Too bad about Pate

    I was hoping Danny could take it…

    by Le Comte on May 28, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

    +1

    looked like he shoulda had it

    by nicknorco on May 28, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Did he get 2nd?

    Looks like he sat up with about 10m to go

    by johnw on May 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Can anyone tell me why some of these guys do not finish past the line?!?

    They seem to get so close and then drop – before actually crossing the line – and it’s costing them top spots. And not just pointing at Pate alone. I’ve been watching that a bit lately. I know the phrase is 2nd is 1st loser but really, how are top 3’s not solid results over top 5’s or 10’s? Always confuses me when it appears they don’t “finish” with everything they have.

    I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!

    by nikki on May 29, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

    i think saxo blew that one

    they played all of their number advantages between 3k and 5k, and could do nothing in the last 2ks

    by PopUp Rolen on May 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

    meh

    It’s not like those guys are experienced in any sort of sprint finish.

    by ursula on May 28, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

    yes it seemed that way

    he’s looking alot happier than he did the other day

    by nicknorco on May 28, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

    What? No processo alla processo?

      I was running out the door, but it seemed like the press was all over DiLuca and Garzelli again today. Both gave interviews. I’d love to have been able to hear it (or read a translation). Seems like Garzelli made the same points ncmussell made in the thread yesterday (KOM points, Vesuvio, etc), but I’d still like to have understood what each of them said.

    "Think globally, bike locally."

    by SpaceGuy on May 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

    They pretty much said the same things as yesterday

    Garzelli said he was doing his race – he’s riding for the mountains jersey and he wanted the points. He also said that he and Diluca are not on the same team, that Diluca is an adversary. Basically, he was doing his own race.

    Diluca pretty much said his fans needed to chill, that yes, he would like the time bonus, but that’s racing.

    by Jen See on May 28, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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