Giro d'Italia, Stage 18... LIVE! [& Post Stage]
A few words about the points competition. Danilo Di Luca leads with 146 points, comfortably ahead of his podium mates Mencho and Save Ferris, at 113 and 103 respectively. Seems like about half the time the Giro points competition turns into a consolation prize for the GC competitors rather than a sprinters' gig, and this year was very much one of those years. Alessandro Petacchi lies 50 points -- two stage wins -- back of Di Luca, but he's pretty much out of road at this point. Friday is Vesuvio, Saturday kicks up at the end, and Sunday is the time trial. Over and out.
That said, Petacchi has been part of the sprinting story, overshadowed by Cavendish in the end but with Cavendish gone Petacchi is the last, best man standing. He will be anxious to shut out Allan Davis, Robbie Hunter, et al. Problem is, as soon as "the right break" gets away, this race could be over. Petacchi's Lpr team surely won't be squandered chasing down a stage win, and Quick Step and Barloworld might not have the power to reel in a break of any consequence. The weather is still warm, particularly in those sunny southern valleys... in other words, this has breakaway sketched all over it. Enjoy!
Update: Results!
- Michele Scarponi (Ita) Serramenti
- Félix Cardenas (Col) Barloworld
- Danny Pate (USA) Garmin
- Lars Ytting Bak (Den) Team Saxo Bank
- Dmytro Grabovskyy (Ukr) ISD
Since this was the transitional stage we all expected, with no effect on the overall, I won't bother with a separate post-stage thread. Keep chatting here, if you like.
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So 3 stars for today...
I like to give them to Jens! but what’s with him this Giro? He’s not looking good.. Voekcler? Muahaha..
But who..
- Pauwels
But man that was difficult.. There are so many riders who could join the break.. Maybe Davis himself..
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
About the favorites of the day...
If it’s podiumwise I will provide the 3 stars to Crash.. and Goodmorning everyone
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
btw.. Have you seen my translated peaco of art about Menchov yesterday?!
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Hey it was a bit of google and a little bit of FrinKing...
But no thanks.. I got it ;)
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Af few words about the KOM competition
With the remaining KOM-opportunities in the Giro there are a maximum of 33 KOM-points available for one rider. Garzelli’s lead is 22 points so Di Luca or Grivko will really have to storm all remaining climbs to get him out of the green jersey.
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
that's the whole point in the post stage thread yesterday
after stage 15 Garzelli’s lead was only 10 points.
Grivko went into several breadaways earlier, picked up a lot of points.
Garzelli can’t do that, so he really needed to sprint for position in the final climbs — despite what killer fans were saying.
15 remaining KOM points are awarded to the first rider on the Vesuvio
This makes it harder for Grivko to strike using a breakaway. Di Luca won’t spend energy on the climbs during the stage I guess.
So putting money on Garzelli in green in Rome is a pretty safe bet.
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
don't really want to argue about this,
but before yesterday Garzelli’s lead wasn’t 10 points. He had 12 more than Grivko and 18 more than Di Luca. But yes, the KOM points are important.
cheerleaders at beach volleyball?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
they're showing food again...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Sprinters left in the race
Alessandro Petacchi (LPR)
Edvald Boasson Hagen (THR)
Allan Davis (QST)
Davide Vigano (FUJ)
Francesco Gavazzi (LAM)
Robert Hunter (BAR)
Ben Swift (KAT)
Matthew Goss (SAX)
Sébastien Hinault (ALM)
Juan José Haedo (SAX)
(In points competition order)
Have I missed anyone?
Matthew Goss (SAX) and Oscar Gatto (ISD)
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh... good reading there, Dennis
Of course, you had Goss
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions
don't forget stage 2 of tour of belgium is today... coverage starts around 14.00 local
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Action in the Giro..
Simoni attacks
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
No, thakfully not. Pickle everywhere.
Why must Eat fill their sandwiches so full?!
Adrenalina Italiana!
good going there
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
another sunny day in italy... tho it is distorting the video feed
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
you'd be amazed how much video distortion you get on bright sunny days...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Cartoon just shown on RAI:
“I love the Processo alla Tappa. It’s a bit unfair, like most trials. But at least it’s short.”
4man break -- simoni, lpr, garmin, astana
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
garmin is danny pate
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
4 men break caught
Now Scarponi tries and is marked by 21 others.
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
Is priu Live?
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
If you mean RAI Sport Piu, yes & no
They’re showing the odd live shot but still raking over yesterday. Bit irritating since I have the sound turned down.
No.. Liveticker is behind
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Sporza is Live with ToB
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
and appears to be geo-restricted now, or at least just buffers endlessly w/o sending anything to me.
There are others who had the same problem.. Or at leat I've heard
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
yeah.. bummer that
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
It's another flat stage isn't it?
I’ll wait for the Ardennes and the ITT.
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
Previous stage was fabolous.. This will be probably a sprinnt
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Nusport ticker says
27 Popovych (Oek, AST) +16:43
122 Bosisio (Ita, LPR) +50:08
153 Scarponi (Ita, SDA) +51:15
86 Pate (VS, GRM) +3:44:50
Have 45 secs
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
Why is Pate in a breakaway
I thought Garmin used the Giro to practice TTT-ing within the bunch?
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
poor Garmin
I’d almost feel sorry for them if it wasn’t for their pretty-well near lack of interest in this race. When you read Wiggins was aiming to finish top at Cinque Terre & yet none of them had even recc’ed the course… gah.
Horner
Took a small crack in his left shinbone home as a souvenir from the Giro. After one week of rest his leg still hurt and the echo that was made afterwards showed the crack. He’ll have to rest for 2 weeks now. He hopes to make it to the TdF.
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
CN reports it too
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/may09/may28news2
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
Among the 20 men chase group
138 Seeldraeyers (Bel, QST) +17:24
179 Sivtsov (WRu, THR) +18:58
8 F. Masciarelli (Ita, ASA) +19:31
62 Deignan (Ier, CTT) +1:39:14
91 Gio. Visconti (Ita, ISD) +2:15:16
154 A. Bertolini (Ita, SDA) +2:22:44
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
Good to see Deignan being OK
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Popovych, Pate, Bosisio, Scarponi, Francesco Masciarelli, Zeits, Cardenas, Voeckler, Lopez, Deignan, Dean, Visconti, Grabovskyy, Gavazzi, Quinziato, Devenyns, Seeldrayers, Bertolini, Ljungblad, Lövkvist, Sivtsov, Petrov, McCartney, Bak en Vorganov
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
If this lasts
Who will sprint? Gavazzi and Dean? B/C-list sprinters is certainly not my area of expertise.
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
Ljungblad's sprint is not that bad
But my money is on Gavazzi.
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Drawback for Gavazzi
He is the only Lampre in the break. Who will mark the attacks in the last 10 km by the likes of Scarponi and Voeckler.
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
Sprint?
Dean, Visconti, Gavazzi and Vorganov.. But it won’t be a sprint
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
The break is about races within the race
The top two in the young rider classification are present. Visconti leads the TV-classification and has top-5’s in both the Trofeo Fuga Cervelo classification and the Most combative classification so he’ll be active today .
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
Top 2 young ones
Seeldraeyers and Masciarelli
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
GC 14-17 are in the break
That will force teams to respond if the gap gets to large I guess. Will GCE defend Arroyo? Lampre defends Bruseghin? ALM – Valjavec? Astana – Armstrong???? ASA – Garzelli?
"Non-cyclists. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbé
they are driving the peloton
but maybe not very fast?
The gap is increasing
More than 4 minutes
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Armstrong replaced by Popo in that case
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Ivanov leading the pelOton in Belgium
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
The National Championship of France would be riding without 'ears'(?) for now
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Without radio communication?
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
The black podium girl really brings the hotitude.
Definitely a highlight of the Centenary Giro
Hope it's not raining at the finish.
No need for mass wipeouts.
Tour of Belgium is entertaining.. Attack after attack..
Breakaway now: Hoogherland ,Joly, Flens, van Avermaet +others
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
breakaway: Steegmans, Timmer, Lagana, Louder Joseph, Maranagoni, Vanechten, Hoogherland , Flens, van Avermaet, Dupond, de Weert, Coene, Deroo
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Deignan's not crashed again, has he??
Just come back in & there he is with ripped jersey & grazes all over.
It is today's
At least 3 of the breakaway group have been on the ground today.
by australopithecine on May 28, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Di Luca and Garzelli talking,
seemed friendly. I’d love to know what they were saying.
I'll tell you:
Gar: How’s it goin today Danny?
Killer: (blank, stone-face stare)
Gar: You’re not going to hold this against me, are you?
Killer: (blank, stone-face stare)
FORZA KILLER!
by DaniloTifoso on May 28, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
six minutes must be too much
because Rabo has the field lined out in pursuit.
The break seems to be working together nicely. For now…..
For Rabo it's ideal
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Markus Eibegger (ELK) wond the stage in Bavaria
Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong
Second is Stefan Denifl (ELK), followed by Linus Gerdemann (MRM)
Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong
McEwan went down in Belgium. he's on the ground holding his leg. Took him a while to unclip because of pain
NAsty crash Klaas Lodewijck
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Bozic wins.. For ? And Brown
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Ongarato second.. Ferrari 6th
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
And cru.. Lodewijck 8th
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
That's going to be a while
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
to take a while
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
+10000000
the way the game has gone so far, Giro will be over
by Bruce Suomi on May 28, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
No love for any sport that interferes with cycling
:)
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 28, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
no love for any sport that delays cycling...
and usually that is tennis (motorsports come close)
by Bruce Suomi on May 28, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Si, I tuned in when he was a double break down in the 3rd, which wasn't happy viewing!
By the way, Feli Lopez is out! Woe is me!
Adrenalina Italiana!
The good break..
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
Has Deignan crashed again or were they just more injuries from yesterday?
Either way looked painful, poor boy. As did Rodriguez’s ass earlier, virtually no shorts left. Gotta make it a sore day…

"The main thing is to not cut yourself and bleed to death in the tub." Frankie Andreu when asked about shaving legs.
yes there was a crash....no footage...three guys
The center of the bottom bracket is the center of the universe.
thanks... yeah poor Phil :(
"The main thing is to not cut yourself and bleed to death in the tub." Frankie Andreu when asked about shaving legs.
revolution... bike racing...
same deal :-)
by billcicletta on May 28, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Do people actually write letters in the bath, or is that just an 18th century French thing?!
Adrenalina Italiana!
dropped my Touch once
won’t do THAT again :-)
by billcicletta on May 28, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I used to when I lived in Scotland.
The bathtub was the only warm place in the flat. I had a board I used as a desk, and would hunker down into the nice hot water and write letters.
Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong
not far
from Bridge of Allan. if you’ve been to the U of Stirling and seen Airthrey Castle, that’s the place
My Mum was born in St Andrew's :-)
Nice place. I have lots of family in Aberdeen so go north of the border reasonably often.
Adrenalina Italiana!
St Andrews
is the only place I’ve ever known to have a fog so thick that you genuinely couldn’t see across the street.
rarer than the yeti or antler boy
is this sighting of orange and blue jerseys in the break. i checked the start list and apparently, it is Team Garmin.
The center of the bottom bracket is the center of the universe.
any idea
what happened to the argyle boys? i mean, wow!
by billcicletta on May 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Other than Farrar's second place finishes...
they’ve had a dreadful Giro. Placed a lot of their eggs in the TTT basket, which didn’t go as planned even with multiple TT national champs on the squad, CVV crashed out unfortunately, so I think the team has been reeling from not achieving any of their goals. Tough on the morale, I’d think.
by Spot of Bother on May 28, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Other than the TTT, I'm not sure how interested they are
(as I said above). Sure, they weren’t anticipating CVV getting injured like that, & doubtless they would have liked to nick a win with Farrar, but beyond that, it’s training for July, isn’t it? & even if CVV had been able to continue I think it still would’ve been. Pity really.
Higher expectations strike again.
They lost the TTT by seconds, which must have been very disappointing, but they have put Farrar on the podium 3 times this Giro—last year the TTT was their only Giro result. And apart from losing their GC guy, they’re very similarly placed to where they were last year after Stage 17 of the Giro:
2009: 5 riders left, at places 64, 88, 142, 153, 157
2008: 5 riders left, at places 40 (CVV), 68, 93, 136, 144
And here’s an update on how they’re doing this year relative to last:
Overall record this year: 5 wins, 17 second places, 10 thirds for 32 total podium spots
Overall record last year at this time: 4 wins, 8 second places, 6 thirds for 18 total podium spots.
They really are doing better this year.
Long day--bad grammar. That's the way it works.--Lance Armstrong
true - mostly
Actual wins don’t stack up on that basis though. It’s not that I do expect that much, more that I think they risk a lot, too much probably, by focussing so narrowly on one target. But given the resources they’ve got that’s what they’ve chosen to do.
Gad, both groups are flying
Wonder if the breakers can stay away. They certainly have some leg power if enough contribute
I think this is comprehensive, but am not sure.
Popovych and Zeits (Astana), Bak and McCartney (Saxo Bank), Pate and Dean (Garmin), Bosisio (LPR), Scarponi (Diquigiovanni), Siutsou and Lovkvist (Columbia), Petrov (Katusha), Lopez Garcia (Caisse d’Epargne), Masciarelli (Acqua e Sapone), Cardenas (Barloworld), Voeckler (Bouygues), Deignan (Cervelo), Dean, Visconti, Grabovskyy (ISD), Gavazzi (Lampre) , Quinziato (Liquigas), Devenyns and Seeldrayers (Quick Step), Bertolini (Diquigiovanni), Ljungblad (Silence-Lotto), Vorganov (Xacobeo Galicia).
Ooo hadn't realised Quinzi was there. He could do well out of this...strong guy.
Adrenalina Italiana!
visconti...
deserves the win. He has been in so many breaks.
What a morning!!
Went for a wonderful ride this morning. Low 60’s, no wind, very little traffic!
Now I’m sitting here with all you wonderful people, sipping espresso and enjoying the GIRO!
And…KILLER IS GOING TO WIN!!
Bold prediction: DiLuca takes Vesuvio with enough time to hold the pink all the way!
VAI DANILO!!!
FORZA KILLER!
Watching the Spelling Bee
I’ve no shame so this is my only commentary on the race on goings today. Thank you guys
Does Pamela Anderson float?
FORZA KILLER!
by DaniloTifoso on May 28, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Too bad about Pate
I was hoping Danny could take it…
Can anyone tell me why some of these guys do not finish past the line?!?
They seem to get so close and then drop – before actually crossing the line – and it’s costing them top spots. And not just pointing at Pate alone. I’ve been watching that a bit lately. I know the phrase is 2nd is 1st loser but really, how are top 3’s not solid results over top 5’s or 10’s? Always confuses me when it appears they don’t “finish” with everything they have.
I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!
i think saxo blew that one
they played all of their number advantages between 3k and 5k, and could do nothing in the last 2ks
That was way to easy for scarponi
Boring stage but what can you expect.
Since no other thread seems more appropriate
here is a blog entry from Christian Vande Velde at USA Today
You should have thrown the link in a fanshot!
That would have bumped that autoplay LA video from the fanshot page..
What? No processo alla processo?
I was running out the door, but it seemed like the press was all over DiLuca and Garzelli again today. Both gave interviews. I’d love to have been able to hear it (or read a translation). Seems like Garzelli made the same points ncmussell made in the thread yesterday (KOM points, Vesuvio, etc), but I’d still like to have understood what each of them said.
"Think globally, bike locally."
They never give credit where it's due
But I’d like to have heard them try and pronounce “ncmussell”. ;D
"Think globally, bike locally."
just think gazzelle for that last part!
It would sound very interesting with an italian accent though.
They pretty much said the same things as yesterday
Garzelli said he was doing his race – he’s riding for the mountains jersey and he wanted the points. He also said that he and Diluca are not on the same team, that Diluca is an adversary. Basically, he was doing his own race.
Diluca pretty much said his fans needed to chill, that yes, he would like the time bonus, but that’s racing.

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