CONFIRMED REPORT - Boonen Positive For Out OF Comp - COCAINE!!
OK - I'm treading lightly here but I have been given Uncofirmed confirmed reports that Tom Boonen has been caught positive in an out-of-competition test for cocaine again. It showed up in a UCI Blood test, apparently
Friends from Belgium are saying, he has been questioned at the police station and are awating more news as we speak....
The tests were taken around the time of Schildeprijs(is this spelt wrong???)
If these rumours are true, I am devastated and shocked that Tom would do this again....
What a waste of a very talented man...... Second positive even out of competition will still ruin his career i'm thinking...
I will update if more news comes along...
Understand mud sticks, and to be careful about rumours.... But have many friends messaging me this info from Belgium... I'm looking for news on the net now....
Sorry about timing.... I sure won't let it spoil the GIRO fun tonight...
AND I'd be happy to be proven that this information is wrong too.....
OK REPORTS ARE NOW FLOWING IN.... CONFIRMED POSITIVE TEST.....
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I don't have the translation
CQRanking tweeted the link to the story
by mnut on May 9, 2009 3:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's confirmed..
A donkey doesn’t byump twice to the same stone.. Do they?
Would be my headline
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 3:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scheldeprijs it is.. But I forgive you ;)
And put it down in normal letters please… He doesn’t deseve this much attention!
And there goes his Tour… But he can prepare for the World Champio now.. It’s also a beautifull course
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 3:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Extra info..
B ecause it’s his second time he can have go to prison.. He had, google say, suspended sentence.. Because it’s the second time they are going to punish him.. They say a punnishment is unavoidable..
Nice to know.. It was 15 days after his victory in Parijs Roubaix
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 3:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reaction Boonens laywer: Human mistake
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 3:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
(by Boonen)
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick-Step's
Allessandro Tegner has confirmed it. Test done by Flemish authorities (out of competition)
https://twitter.com/KankiKnight
by oldsprinter on May 9, 2009 3:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Idiot...F*cking Idiot.
Hope he gets thrown in the slammer for a bit in July so he can turn his act around. Quick Step should have written in a rehab clause into his new contract.
by Vlaanderen90 on May 9, 2009 4:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So is the man really...
… that incredibly stupid, or is someone indeed out to take him down?
The ‘human mistake’ bit from his lawyer tends to indicate that it is stupidity… but geez, I’m having a hard time comprehending that level of stupidity :-(
by Lou... on May 9, 2009 4:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
French eurosport has this..
http://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/boonen-encore._sto1933424/story.shtml
And the damning comment that as one year follows another they are all alike for Boonen!
If Im reading it right -it also says as sentence last time is still suspended his bail money from the last offence will now be automatically forfeited.
by andrewp on May 9, 2009 4:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Correction
Think it’s more they went easy on him last time as regards fines and expenses as he promised not to use drugs again, but they wont this time.
by andrewp on May 9, 2009 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Lefevre:
“Je kunt je inbeelden dat ik hier niet sta te dansen in mijn living. Ik ben diep ontgoocheld”, zegt Patrick Lefevere, “maar zal niet officieel reageren voor ik de sponsors van ons team, en dan vooral de hoofdsponspor, heb gesproken.” "Ik wil me niet laten leiden door woede. Ik probeer nu de gevolgen in te schatten, maar weet het allemaal niet meer. Of ik Tom al gesproken heb? Ja, maar daar wil ik niets over kwijt.
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 4:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn it Tommeke...
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on May 9, 2009 4:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe it....I'm gutted.
What a category 1 idiot. WHY? All that talk about having turned his life around…..what rot. I forgave him last time but I don’t know how I can support him again now. I cheered myself hoarse for this guy in Arenberg. Why did I bother?
by Albertina on May 9, 2009 4:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe change the title?
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 5:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Changed......
But I was trying to be careful when I wrote the initial report.. It was on the internet anyway…… Love having friends/contacts
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on May 9, 2009 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps, but things would have been very different if your contacts/friends were wrong
which all to often happens…and shouldn’t.
by bradBordeaux on May 9, 2009 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True... But being told he was at the police station
being questioned… was enough to make an unconfirmed report.
Sadly and let me tell you. I was hoping I was going to be proven wrong…
Boonen is one of may favourites, and I ‘m still can’t understand why…
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on May 9, 2009 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries....I think we're on the same page
by bradBordeaux on May 10, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I'm sure we are..
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on May 10, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has been the year of the repeat offender.
Schumacher, Hamilton, Pfannberger and Boonen.
by mysterion on May 9, 2009 6:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does the guy actually want to send himself crashing down or what?
Will QS forgive him this time I wonder? To wreck your great career for a high which surely can’t be as great a high as winning PR….I just don’t understand….especially as he knew he was risking prison….ugh, I just don’t know what to think any more.
by Albertina on May 9, 2009 6:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A lot of 'first stones' cast here....
by bradBordeaux on May 9, 2009 6:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm just disappointed. Not saying I've never done anything stupid myself.
Tom clearly has a problem and needs help; I hope he gets it and can eventually move on. From that point of view I am compassionate…we all know our heroes are human but when you’ve used up so much emotional energy supporting someone, these things are difficult to stomach, especially second time round…..
by Albertina on May 9, 2009 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just disappointed. Not saying I’ve never done anything stupid myself.
details details! ;)
But he’s pilling under a lot of pressure.. Maybe that’s the reason but:
1 Coke
2 Date a 16 year young girl
3 Ride 190km an hour drunk where speed limtation is 90
4 Coke
Missing a lot! Is just stupid
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well we've all done stupid things!
But mine have not involved any of the above ;-)
by Albertina on May 9, 2009 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You never date a young girl?! Partypooper!
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm...
Maybe we need to discuss your strategy regarding dating Albertina. Do you feel that you’re on the right track?
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 9, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha..
She already has the flight company in her bookmark.. So yes?
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there's a bit of a difference between flying to and fleeing from
Just as there’s a difference between wooing someone and worrying someone.
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on May 9, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Figurehead
gets to the quick of it.
by Sui Juris on May 9, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the coke's a low-level constant
all the rest pops into focus, doesn’t it?
Not saying it is. And if it were, you’d think he’d have more than 2 positive tests. But addiction’s one of those things that not really open to “being a bit more sensible.” Coke and bad choices do kinda go together.
by JFS_PGH on May 9, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Boonen suspended by QST for a not set time
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 7:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm perplexed!
I love that word, perplexed. Now, writing that word was this day’s first positive thing that actually had a positive effect on me.
Now, I think he has a real problem. He moved on and I really think he did – everyone around him said that it was a new (old) Boonen, a Boonen of 2005 and he seemed much wiser. I think he could stop the dating of 16-year olds, he could stop driving 190 km/h and he even moved to Belgium again, now living with his girlfriend. Now, I have absolutely no experience with drugs (I’d like to keep it that way) but it seems that it can just do something to even intelligent and mentally strong people. There really is a reason why you hear all those Don’t Do Drugs-campagns. Therefore, I will not judge his stupidity because he is one of the smarter minded in both cycling and professional sport. Instead, he should get some help.
Btw., if there was ever anything that could ensure me to never do drugs, this would be it.
by Forstoppelse on May 9, 2009 7:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely. I'm baffled too.
There have been various interviews where he really came across as if he’d learnt his and wanted to put all this behind him. He really must have problems and I hope he can pull himself through them with the necessary help. He’s a great cyclist and it’s so sad that he’s come to this. Maybe I was a bit hasty in my outrage higher up but as I said, it’s hard when you cheer your heart out for someone and then this happens again. I do sincerely hope he can find a way to get out of the mire.
by Albertina on May 9, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Money quote
“If he was racing with any other team, he would have been thrown out already,”
Belgian federation (LVB) chief Tom Van Damme
"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten
by Hons on May 9, 2009 7:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
'Tom zit diep in de put'
Frinking, what does “put” mean? The rest I think I understand as it’s pretty close to English.
by pigilito on May 9, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a well
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Franzoi wins Parijs-Roubaix and I win a date with the VDS of Team Txirrindulariak..
by Frinking on May 9, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tuttobici illustrating the story with this pic
Now I’m no coke-expert but that’s not the end you put it in Tom.
by Jens on May 9, 2009 7:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Torn between wanting to kick him
and seeing if he’s all right.
If you're not laughing, you're crying in the Giro. Every team leaves [for the start] hours before the race starts, because you never know. Maybe they decided to strike on the road today. Maybe somebody decided not to come to work that day. Maybe the signs to the race are backwards.--Christian Vande Velde
by majope on May 9, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...me too. It's hard to know what to feel.
by Albertina on May 9, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's obviously out of his control
He needs to get past it. If he can, then he should consider getting back into cycling.
by Jens on May 9, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent way to put it.
He needs some kind of help. I hope he gets it.
by Veloki on May 9, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Very sad to see this, because it says to me that he has a pretty serious problem. Same as last year, he finishes his first round of big races – maybe gets a big win – then, gets high. Pretty destructive pattern there, really.
I hope he can sort this out.
by gavia on May 9, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said.
Obviously he needs more help then first thought. I just hope it isn’t too late….for him professionally and of course personally. I’m mad and sad.
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Judging by the Flandro-trash
that I had to wade through at Paris-Roubaix last month, it’s not hard to guess where his dealer might have come from.
Biggest group of cycling hooligans I’ve ever seen.
by Mr 60 Percent on May 9, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
aaaaaaahhhhhhhh
I am so pissed. What an a**hole. I guess he is going to stop bunch sprints after all.
by samboo on May 9, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it really so bad?
Let me say first off that I’m sure there were discussions about this last year on this site, I didn’t take part in them. Also, I don’t know much about coke, how addictive it is, etc.
But to my knowledge – not very substantial, admittedly – this is a party drug. I have a very good friend who grew up in Mexico City with quite a bit of money. When she was in her late teens and early twenties, she would go out most weekends, do a bunch of coke, and stay up til dawn. Then, somewhere in her late twenties, she just stopped doing it as she stopped going out so much. In other words, she describes it as a party drug – it wasn’t anything she ever became addicted to (unless maybe you can describe this as an addiction), just something she did to have fun. If anything it sounds less abusive than kids who go out every weekend and drink themselves sick.
Anyways like I said I’m hardly an expert on this stuff – maybe the effects of coke are way worse than I understand. But to me, reading nothing but this report, it just looks like Boonen’s young and loves to party. Am I missing something…is this really so bad?
by plinytheelder on May 9, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
I know nothing about this drug either. I’m lucky to not have family or friends use it (that I’m aware of). If it was addictive, why hasn’t he gotten popped more? Has he gotten lucky? Is he stupid enough to risk his career and jail time though on getting caught for a night of partying? If he doesn’t have a problem then I’m mad at him more then I empathize for him.
Hmmm maybe somebody is slipping into his drink when he is going to those clubs ;-)
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s not really something you can be “slipped” you have to make a choice to ingest it. :^(
by Fred Marx on May 9, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops hit post to soon..
Coke metabolizes rather quickly, and the metabolites are not stored unlike many other recreationals and PED’s, so the window for testing positive is very small.
by Fred Marx on May 9, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered this, too...
… but there are cheaper and more effective substances that could be slipped into a drink. I could be wrong, but I’m thinking that the ol’ Colombian Marching Powder is more likely to be in the bloodstream by choice.
by Lou... on May 9, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's general perception is that of a party drug.
Depends on how hard the stuff is cut. The more cut the less effect, the less chance of addiction.. in theory, therefore more harmless it seems. It is definitely addictive. It stimulates the dopamine receptors if I recall, and one becomes hooked on that as much as the coke. They all say the same thing, “It’s just a little coke..” and most of them end up in rehab, or .. There is also a physiological side to it, as some people have a personality that is susceptible to dependency. Dependency of all types, not just drugs and alcohol. In some ways it’s like smoking, one becomes attached to the ritual as much as the affect. Yeah the stuff is bad. My experience stems from living in Snow country where coke is the drug of choice of the “cool people”. It seems to say something about a the status of the person and helps them maintain a “positive self image” as a cool dude. As I said many of them have personalities that lead them that way, and some of them just can’t say no.
by Fred Marx on May 9, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMHO
It’s only bad because he’s probably going to miss the TdF again. Tommeke is my favorite rider by a long shot – I could not care if he does blow, sleeps with teenagers, etc. as long as he doesn’t do PEDs or get busted for a felony. Looks like he may be facing some legal problems?
Sadly, in the puritanical world we live in, and with the drug-testing culture completely out of control, he’s going to be taking a longer vacation from cycling than he did last year, which is sad.
Hope the suspension doesn’t last through next March :-)
by samboo on May 9, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like to put
athletes on podiums. I like Tommeke a lot, my favorite rider. Pretty obvious. I’m so pissed too that he is going to miss another TdF! I’m very concerned what will happen to QS.
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it is pretty addictive.
Crack is coke, and it’s arguably no more or less intrinsically addictive than the powder (except that people get to higher doses faster). And, well, people use methamphetamine as a party drug and work booster in the Philippines. Doesn’t mean they don’t get addicted.
Do some people throw off addictions more easily than others, or not get hooked as quickly? Sure seems so. So that variable is always there.
I have heard from a friend that it was much easier to go through crack withdrawal (something he did once after a lost year, with help, and once on his own after a month of backsliding, and has not been involved in for about 10 years since) than it is to quit smoking plain old cigarettes (something he’s been trying to do for two decades now).
by JFS_PGH on May 9, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sporza has some comments from Boonen
here – the Google translation makes it sound like he’s saying the problem is actually alcohol, “Someone should teach me to understand what happens when I drink too much” – can anyone confirm/clarify the translation?
by guidemd on May 9, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not gonna translate but if what you are printing is acurate
It’s entirely possible he has an alcohol addiction too. Plus a cocaine addiction.
by ursula on May 9, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would make sense
with his speeding/DUI/car incidents and accidents previously
by guidemd on May 9, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, based on friends--
A lot of people drink to allow themselves to get over the rules an inhibitions that stop them from doing other things. Ditto weed. I don’t buy that alcohol and weed are “gateways” because you will try anything for the first time once you are drunk. But if you have a problem / interest / taboo thing that you’re fascinated by and only controlling by an act of will, the inhibition relaxation from the drinking or smoking will absolutely take the edge off your willpower.
Same with what sorts of activities you do once you’re on the harder drugs. NOT everyone becomes a thief, child-abandoner and prostitute even when addicted to crack, heroin, etc. But if you have any deeper desire to be a self-indulgent flake and basically think on some level that the world owes you one, each layer of “ego boost” and “inhibition relaxation” bring out your inner assholism.
by JFS_PGH on May 9, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s generally acknowledged that drinkers frequently exercise poor judgement… A dependent personality often has more than one substance issue.
Note too that many people comment on the addictive quality of winning. While not saying anything specific here, I’m just seeing some traits that might be linked…
by Fred Marx on May 9, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info.
I’m thinking after reading all the stuff on Sporza…too much drinking=bad decisions.
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
after 25 years up here in Park City I've seen it all...
and lived to share… 8^)
by Fred Marx on May 9, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes...we just moved to "happy valley"
from California!
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes but that's a different form of "happy"
don’t get me started… OK? ;^)
by Fred Marx on May 9, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beleive me I won't!
We didn’t know what we were moving into. We will be moving out as soon as this housing market allows. Did you see the movie documentary “Happy Valley”?
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no didn't see it...
like I mentioned above I’ve been exposed to it for 25 years.
by Fred Marx on May 9, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My dislike for this guy is being confirmed
Always saw him as a big Dufus but couldn’t put my finger on it. Then he started his premature celebrations at the line or celebrating with guys up the road, but this is some serious confirmation of his Dufus-dom.
That’s two big strikes and probably another exclusion from the Tour. What will QuikStep do now? What will the sanctioning bodies do? Looky bad for Boom Boom
by sminer on May 9, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, a Snow-Informer reference
I think
by tedvdw on May 10, 2009 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, Jim Carey style
Looky Boom Boom go down
wasn’t intented, but that’s funny
by sminer on May 11, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's not cheating in races, he has personal issues
I’ve seen interviews with him and he always came cross as pretty intelligent to me and I like him as a rider a lot. I can certainly understand how having a drinking problem leads to bad decisions. I quit smoking years ago and am never even tempted to smoke, except when I get a bit too drunk. Then every now and again I break down and have a drag or two. It doesn’t happen often, but I know it is the booze more than the cigarettes.
Boonen has accomplished most everything he could want to in cycling and his fans have gone so far as to break into his house. That’s got to be a weird existence. Part of him may very well be over it and while many of us might think that’s crazy, the vast majority of us have nowhere near his talent on a bike. It doesn’t seem that he’s doing it to gain any sort of competetive advantage so I’m cutting him some slack.
by tricycle on May 9, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know that about the fans breaking into his house.
I do know that the Belgian fans put a lot of pressure on him (not making excuses for him). I agree that alcohol makes us all do stupid things. He is human after all. The times I have met him he was very gracious to his fans, very charismatic…and I have always thought he was intelligent. How many languages does he speak? At least two fluently?
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cycle Sport America April 2008
you made me look it up :) He walked downstairs in his boxers in the morning to find some fan waiting for an autograph in the living room. The guy had seen Tom’s window open and decided to get inside.
The entire article is sort of about Boonen’s love/hate relationship with being as successful and famous as he is.
by tricycle on May 9, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks :-)
I probably have that in my collection!
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least 3
obviously Dutch and English, I’ve also seen interviews with him in French, his French isn’t great but definitely passable.
by plinytheelder on May 9, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, some French and of course Flemish.
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He speaks Italian too.
Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.
by Josenka on May 9, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember
intelligence equals common sense..
something I’m sure you’ve seen first hand in Happy Valley.
by Fred Marx on May 9, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So true!
My friend who is in Belgium translated Tom’s interview for me. What stuck out the most was he is worried for his teammates.
by cyclingdiva on May 9, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His claim of being worried about his teammates sounds self serving on his part.
Had he cared for his teammates he wouldn’t have been so stupid in the first place.
by pigilito on May 9, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure somebody out there could remind me of the details from a story last year. There was a Belgian continental pro that got popped for cocain then cited BoomBoom as his dealer. If I recall, he claimed it was a well known and well kept secret that
by Koppenberg34 on May 11, 2009 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he scored coke for others as well. Seems to me that he’s probably not suffering from a habit so much as a lack of will power while in the midst of the nightclub environment. This spiral (from the 190km drunken car wreck to the underage womanizing, to the recreational drug indulgance) reminds me an awful lot of Jan Ulrich’s ecstasy bust/car wreck/etc. Hopefully he’ll come back in the way of a certain 6X KoM TDF champ and housewife favorite, more popular and likable than ever.
by Koppenberg34 on May 11, 2009 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like recreational drugs that have no sporting effect, are given a bit of a one time pass by the governing bodies that be, since it doesn’t prove a person to be a cheat, just suceptable to moronic behavior like the rest of us. Remember Gilberto Simoni’s coke positive a few years back? He claimed it was a throat lozenge that got him popped, but really…..I mean seriously, its as bad an excuse as any, and he got a pass – but once.
by Koppenberg34 on May 11, 2009 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was the chocolates from his grandmother in South America? hah
by Vlaanderen90 on May 11, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, "Peruvian candy"
Brilliant excuse. From a long line of: “the epo was for my sick dog”, “the car full of drugs was for a Latvian children’s hospital”, “that €50,000 was for a training schedule ony.”
by tedvdw on May 11, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You need to go back to the Italian press to see what really happened
Simoni didn’t make cheap excuses or call in lawyers to bluff and bullshit, but set about to understand how the coke got in his system and to prove it to the authorities. He volunteered for all sorts of tests including hair and the like. It wasn’t the same sort of shit that Landis and Hamilton came up with.
by Monty. on May 11, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, in his case 'excuse' probably not the right word
Thanks for clarifying. I like Simoni! Still, Peruvian candy is funny.
by tedvdw on May 11, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Real Issue
Cocaine isn’t illegal out of competition. Why are anti-doping officials testing for it? Neither the UCI nor WADA has any business testing for substances that they can’t take action on. And both those organizations have ethical prohibitions against leaking things to the media.
You can expect a rant on this topic from me later today.
-Cosmo
http://cyclocosm.com
Head down, elbows out since 2005
by Cosmo on May 9, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Check the facts
on who did the testing and on the standard protocol for analysis of those tests.
Can’t say for sure but I’m pretty sure you will find little reason for a rant after that.
by Jens on May 9, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just read that tennis player Richard Gasquet
reportedly also had traces of cocaine in the A sample of his drug test.
by Katiek on May 9, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heck, now that's very sad too...and it was in competition
by Albertina on May 9, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now a NASCAR driver has failed a drug test
by Katiek on May 9, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and two mechanics as well
same race. Who knew Budwieser was was a banned substance under NASCAR regs…..
by Fred Marx on May 10, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm....
Maybe Boonen wants to be banned from the Tour because he does not think he can compete well with Cavendish for the Green Jersey…
Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.
by Josenka on May 9, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The details don't really matter
In competition vs. out of competition, addictive vs. party drug, guilty vs. innocent, in the world of public perception this does not matter. Unfortunately, once again he has harmed the image of cycling. While true fans will realize this was an out of competition test, the general public will only see the headline that another top cyclist has tested positive for drugs.
If he is indeed guilty, I hope he can address & resolve whatever personal demons are haunting him, and can find other ways of dealing with the pressure of being Belgium’s Golden Boy. I’d hate to see him in the same situation as Tyler Hamilton
by touriste-routier on May 10, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Speaking as an addict myself (alcohol)...
It seems Boonen is exhibiting classic addict behavior. Someone who is not an addict will never understand Boonens behavior. But Addicts will look and say “of course!”
by liteberer on May 10, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's worrying, it really is.
I hope with all my heart he can get through this in one piece.
by Albertina on May 10, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same Here..
I’m just hoping he has the support of family and friends… and doesn’t do anything stupid… If I was there I’d give him a big hug, a CycleGirl podium kiss and tell him " the important things is to look after yourself, get help, and the only person you need to answer too is yourself.. If you aren’t happy then you know you need to change".. I’m thinking he realises this now…
I’m going to miss him, but more importantly cycling will miss him…
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on May 10, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miss him, I mean maybe only a short time or big time... time will tell
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on May 10, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will miss him also.
Lore was saying that he has the support of the family and they will get him help. Hopefully he will do it. I am upset with him for putting Patrick through all this stress, he does have a heart condition. And of course his teammates. But, I’m sure if I was there, I would give him a hug too. ;-)
by cyclingdiva on May 10, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is great to hear he will have help
and yes, very sad to think how upset patrick is… he supported him last time, must be so disappointed. I do hope the rest of the Quickstep Team don’t suffer… Especially with them doing well at the Giro, would be awesome to see Albi come out with a stage win..
IHe would at least get lot’s of hugs from us… It should make him at least feel better :-)
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on May 11, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, there's something to all those 12-step programs
Similarities that become glaringly obvious once you’ve seen them exhibited in enough different lives & circumstances. Of course, you could just say “he’s a rock star in his own country, and stinking rich at a young age (comparitively, anyway). Why wouldn’t he think the world belongs to him?” But that argument only works the first time.
by JFS_PGH on May 11, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure somebody out there could remind me of the details from a story last year. There was a Belgian continental pro that got popped for cocain then cited BoomBoom as his dealer. If I recall, he claimed it was a well known and well kept secret that
he scored coke for others as well. Seems to me that he’s probably not suffering from a habit so much as a lack of will power while in the midst of the nightclub environment. This spiral (from the 190km drunken car wreck to the underage womanizing, to the recreational drug indulgance) reminds me an awful lot of Jan Ulrich’s ecstasy bust/car wreck/etc. Hopefully he’ll come back in the way of a certain 6X KoM TDF champ and housewife favorite, more popular and likable than ever.
It seems like recreational drugs that have no sporting effect, are given a bit of a one time pass by the governing bodies that be, since it doesn’t prove a person to be a cheat, just suceptable to moronic behavior like the rest of us. Remember Gilberto Simoni’s coke positive a few years back? He claimed it was a throat lozenge that got him popped, but really…..I mean seriously, its as bad an excuse as anybody, but he still got a pass – but once.
by Koppenberg34 on May 11, 2009 5:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was Tom Vanoppen
back in January 2008—but later he denied he ever said that Boonen gave him drugs:
The name of Tom Boonen as a supplier never came out of my mouth.
by majope on May 11, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Boonen
Just to add more fuel to this sad situation, www.cyclingnews.com is now reporting that the most recent positive control for cocaine is not Boonens second, but his third……I agree with the above sentiments that the guy is acting a lot more like a chronic substance abuser and less like a guy who partied hard after a big victory. With respect to cycling bodies etc. getting involved in suspending him for an out of competition positive on a “recreational” drug, the simple use of cocaine is a crime in Belgium, unlike in most countries where the focus is on those who sell the drug. It is hard to believe that Tommeke wasn’t aware of this particularly after getting a pass from Belgian authorities on the first test.
by tonyver45 on May 11, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You have to go over to Het Nieuwsblad to get the full details on this new positive
The test happened in November 2007 when Tom was living in Monaco. The test showed traces of Coke and Ecstasy but it didn’t count as a fail because it was out of competition, so nothing happened. I’m not sure sure how it’s getting to the papers now, but apparently Boonen and QS got some sort of warning in December last, so maybe someone’s been saying talking too much. But Belgian law obliges the testers to notify the police if they find illicit stuff, whatever the sporting consequences, hence this latest raid on chez Boonen.
by Monty. on May 11, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From reading the Belgian
news…it sounds like Tom was pretty open about his coke problem back in 07/08. Saying it was “everywhere” and “as easy as coffee”. It sounds like the QS CEO or former CEO is very fond of Tom so it will be interesting to see what they do. He was quoted as saying it would be a shame to see his career end like this. I would totally agree.
by cyclingdiva on May 11, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, it *is* really easy to get coke
A line is almost the same price as a beer now. There’s talk of almost all students in the big cities in Holland being regular coke users. I do think that’s rather exaggerated but I also think in certain circles (frats/sororities/clubbing) it is a very established habit. Of course, this extends to (or more probably originated in) the yuppie crowd. Despite the economic downturn, Holland & Belgium are still very affluent and almost anyone between 18 and 30 is either a student or a yuppie.
by tedvdw on May 11, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is what I am hearing
for all of Europe. That same article quoted him as saying this:
“That I have come in contact, has nothing to do with sterrendom or money, or the cycling environment,” Boonen is very open. “Cocaine is in the youth, but not only the youth.”
by cyclingdiva on May 11, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It got to the papers now
because it almost did originally. Paper ‘De Morgen’ got wind of th first positive, asked Boonen to confirm and he did, even gave an interview. The team was OK with the interview, everything represented well it seems, but the lawyers withheld publication to have a better ‘mea culpa’ case in court. That worked out and the interview was never published, until now when De Morgen decided it could.
by tedvdw on May 11, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I was thinking
it seems that Tom is talking a lot!
by cyclingdiva on May 11, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting that he was willing to be honest without the lawyers around.
I wonder if they’re responsible for “I must have blacked out” as well. Here’s the De Morgen article if anyone wants to take a look.
by majope on May 11, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I agree, about the honesty and without the lawyers.
I wonder if they knew he had more of a problem back then 07/08 then led on. If they would of just got him treatment then.
by cyclingdiva on May 11, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But then he might not have raced
and scored wins for QS. You have to have priorities.
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