Is Le Tour trying to get Alejandro V. in?
It's Spanish, for this time. I don't really get the text but the title says: The Tour wants to unblock the situation of Valverde..
I so hope this is not true.. If it's true I so hate the ASO.. Than they are the most hypocrite organisation on earth, after probably the WoW makers and no I don't play WoW or oilcompanies. Let's see..
Btw.. Translating can be made here
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I have hope that this isn't true.
No direct quotes from anyone in the article, just claims that McQuaid is an ally of the Spanish Federation and that CONI’s ban could be interpreted that Piti can ride in Italy if the race isn’t organized by the Italians.
Might just be wishful thinking on the newspaper’s part—it would certainly suck monkey balls if the Tour bars Boonen for party drugs but twists things to allow a doper who is under an active ban. Maybe I’m naive, but I can’t see that happening.
I can't understand why people cheat--Mark Cavendish
by majope on Jun 23, 2009 7:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that article reads more like an opinion piece than a report…strange, he’s just saying that the UCI, i.e. McQuaid, wants Valverde there.
Much more somber article in L’équipe this morning…they have a quote from the Spanish minister for sport (from an AS article), who talks about how the Spanish gov’t’s hands are tied in the matter, in part because in ‘06 doping wasn’t yet a crime in Spain…and hence they’re just waiting for the UCI decision like everyone else.
by plinytheelder on Jun 23, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
Also, very key point in that article: The Spanish went to TAS to contest Valverde’s exclusion from Worlds, but that this situation is completely different. From the sounds of it, the Spanish will not contest the UCI decision, should the UCI confirm the Italian ban. I really don’t see what grounds the UCI could have for rejecting the Italian decision, but we’ll see soon enough.
by gavia on Jun 23, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Letting AV race and not Boonen would be double standards of the highest order.
I can’t see this happening, though this can be a strange sport at times….
Adrenalina Italiana!
by Albertina on Jun 23, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
again
you linky does not work, frinkster. why am I not surprised?
by rbjhan on Jun 23, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How can I say this politely..
The link is working for everyone but you.. I don’t want to insult anything but it’s a little strange..
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Frining "It's what he thinks.. But he always do.. I eat my shoe if he ride top 15 in le Tour" about Devolder
by Frinking on Jun 23, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's called operator error!
to be polite!
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by DemonCats on Jun 23, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Link is woring perfect for me.. It's the link Lucybears posted..
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Frining "It's what he thinks.. But he always do.. I eat my shoe if he ride top 15 in le Tour" about Devolder
by Frinking on Jun 23, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
odd article
And actually, I think the comments of the Spanish dude in the l’équipe article may be a response to this one. That is, no, we don’t have any plans to go to TAS, contrary to this Spanish report.
Based on all other available reporting, the Tour is not doing anything to challenge the sanction against Valverde. The only way I see him riding the Tour is if TAS overturns the sanction from Italy. I haven’t seen any information on when the Court will consider his case, only that he has filed a formal appeal.
by gavia on Jun 23, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I read somewhere a couple of weeks back
that he didn’t expect them to fast track his appeal, so that would mean 4 months at the very least before they look at it.
by Monty. on Jun 23, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of CAS
CAS may not be listing when the AV case will be heard, but the full Gusev decision went up yesterday/today – only available in French alas.
Cavendish - "le Mozart du onze-dents" (the Mozart of the 11-tooth sprocket) – L’Equipe
by andrewp on Jun 23, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oooh, thanks
not sure if i’ll have time to read that thingy today, but i’d like to…
by gavia on Jun 23, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stress this is google translate more than me
Whole matter seems totally contractual (the testing and Damsg get a big up in the report). Seems there is a paragraph in the contract they signed that said if suspicions aroused by Damsg’s tests then further tests should be done and the rider must submit to them – this didn’t happen = Breach of contract (Timeline roughly – Got the results one day, he responds, the fired him the next & thus branded him a doper too “early” and on too “little”)
Cavendish - "le Mozart du onze-dents" (the Mozart of the 11-tooth sprocket) – L’Equipe
by andrewp on Jun 23, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes,
admittedly I am much better at French nineteenth century novels than I am at this sort of thing. However, it seems (to me) that Astana handled it incredibly badly on a procedural & contractual level.
They should have (& I also must stress I’m summarising from memory here, not with the document open) done all sorts of things they didn’t do. They hadn’t specified to the rider what the “norms” were that he had to remain within, if they were different from the UCI ones (how can you break a rule if you don’t know what is); they didn’t do the further testing mentioned by andrewp above, which was a contractual agreement where the team had a suspicion of doping; they didn’t give the rider any proper opportunity to respond or appeal; Damsgaard (& I do feel this is damaging him for him) had said that the samples themselves had been passed to a WADA accredited lab but then admitted at the hearing that only the data had been. There are others, too.
The key thing for me, however, is precisely what andrewp says above. The judgment says that internal anti-doping procedures are louable, however, it is unfair to sack a rider immédiatement on the suspicion of doping. Contrary to a lot of what’s been said so far elsewhere, I think the important thing is this “immediately”, which is repeated again & again. But I don’t think it says a team can’t sack a rider who is suspected of doping but that they can’t sack them straight away.
But hey, it really needs a fluent French speaking lawyer to draw proper conclusions.
by civetta on Jun 23, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May I (mischieviously) raise a point
It appears Professor Michael Assenden was a defence witness, who gave evidence via teleconference
With his previous utterances – Who would have thought that JB (of all people) would have wheeled him in as an expert witness?
Cavendish - "le Mozart du onze-dents" (the Mozart of the 11-tooth sprocket) – L’Equipe
by andrewp on Jun 23, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caisse have now announced they've not selected him.
So that’s that.
by civetta on Jun 23, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs


















