Tour rosters: Astana ?
[Ed. note: Yes, this is confirmed. Check the Astana site (watch your volume, though).]
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lucybears
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Oh good catch! Where did you find that?
So neither of Bert’s mates gets a spot? Hmm.
Adrenalina Italiana!
by Albertina on Jun 25, 2009 4:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sergio Paulinho is there
Urray!!
by semprenaroda on Jun 25, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still
waiting for confirmation from another source
by lucybears on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd consider it a confirmation from the team site
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
novel way to announce the team
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 7:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice alphabetical excuse to put Armstrong on top
by tedvdw on Jun 25, 2009 7:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm hoping that don't put him in the "?1" dossard
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious Armstrong introduction
on http://www.astana-cyclingteam.com/
“2009 Nevada City Classic champion”
by tedvdw on Jun 25, 2009 7:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Sergio
provides a light-hearted atmosphere"…lol
by semprenaroda on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a bad squad...
strong men for the flats: vaitkus, rast, muravyev
time trialers: all good ones, not too sure about rast and muravyev
got climbers in spades: armstrong, contador, kloden, leipheimer, paulinho, popovych, zubeldia
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 7:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oops, my mistake.... small print ya now
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The promo movie to download
Astana Tour ’09 video (H.264 MPEG4, 512×288, 5:05 min, 18 MB).
by tedvdw on Jun 25, 2009 7:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stile americano
according to Tuttobici. Oh dear ;-)
by civetta on Jun 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"New French Revolution"?
Capital L Lame.
by Sui Juris on Jun 25, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah I was just about to post that
get over yourselves astana marketing division
by plinytheelder on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My head hurts
from the bizarre combo of mixed metaphors there.
Lame is right.
by gavia on Jun 25, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
< gagging >
"Think globally, bike locally."
by SpaceGuy on Jun 25, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CQ tweet
Confirms. But I don’t know the source.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja min who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Jun 25, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the source is the astana website... where lucybears got the graphic above...
why is this so difficult to understand
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because
lucybears did not get the graphic from the team website, hence my post of wanting confirmation….
by lucybears on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry... i saw it at the website
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but, why would this shirt be produced if it wasn't accurate?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 10,000 “Orlando Magic NBA champs 2009” t-shirts sitting in a dumpster somewhere, or waiting to be given to charity, would like to offer you their personal thanks
by plinytheelder on Jun 25, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if it says so on a t-shirt,
it has to be true.
by yeehoo on Jun 26, 2009 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
'zactly
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by JFS_PGH on Jun 27, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Armstrong and Contador
Will be protected riders.
"Where there’s a will, there’s a way.": Alberto Contador, shortly after waking up from brain surgery.
by Lopex on Jun 25, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shinebox!
(If I get the meaning right of shinebox)
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Frining "It's what he thinks.. But he always do.. I eat my shoe if he ride top 15 in le Tour" about Devolder
by Frinking on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
clue me in, frinkster,
i don’t know myself
by yeehoo on Jun 26, 2009 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Presumptuous Much?
Are they really this egotistical? Can any of you seriously imagine, say, some Belgian team coming over to the States for a big event and bragging about how they are the new American revolution? I don’t think I’d blame anyone for being offended by such a thing.
by Ed K on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mmmm...possibly.
Still think its kinda obnoxious though.
by Ed K on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very obnoxious
This will do wonders to their public image in France…
by MathieuG on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's the Robespierre?
Any bets?
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja min who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Armstrong is clearly the Incorruptible
the question is, when does the Terror begin? (sorry, just eating breakfast)
by plinytheelder on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yikes
So is Contador Danton? I know how this story ends.
by gavia on Jun 25, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Contador is the Marquis de Sade… ;)
by plinytheelder on Jun 25, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember, you're talking about the country that has made "taking offense" into an art form
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but you'd be upset, too
if everyone thought you produced Borat.
by Sui Juris on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the usa didn't produce borat...
it was the usa i was referring to at “taking offense” being an art form, in case you missed it
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL I thought you were talking about France!
by Ed K on Jun 25, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me, too
Well, at least both I and UMW missed each other’s points . . .
by Sui Juris on Jun 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess they were forced to go with the token Kazak...
though they could have done much worse but I still think Noval would have been better.
by Vlaanderen90 on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I’m also surprised about Rast but I guess Vaitkus hasn’t come back enough from injuries and Bazayev is still in the doghouse. Rast fits the mold though: big and fast. He won the Luxembourg prologue but is not good at all in the longer ITT’s so for the TTT I imagine the team using him up and dropping him.
Muravyev I don;t get (beyog the Hazakh connection). He’s a bit older (1979) so maybe they didn;t want to bring along a kid like they did in the Giro bu otherwise I would place Zeits, or Dyachenko ahead of him. Muravyev is bad in time trials.
by ursula on Jun 25, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
muravyev has been the national tt champion
as well as road
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and pointing out "almost last in his previous tour" in the comments?
Even if you’re doing it to say, “he’s better than the numbers imply,” it’s still, well, rude. Mean and rude. Perhaps meant that way (stick it the the ’zakhs) perhaps just tone-deaf, but wow…or am I being oversensitive here?
by JFS_PGH on Jun 25, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oversensitive
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, rude
I thought it was rude, too. Heck, there are plenty of good things you can say about a guy without pointing out that unfortunate statistic. And if the statistic is truly non-indicative of his performance, then it’s even more inappropriate to republish it. They could have just called him “dependable” and left it at that.
Then again, the whole thing was probably “edited” only by Johan and HWMNBN…
"Think globally, bike locally."
by SpaceGuy on Jun 25, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But... no Chris Horner?
That’s a bad bad move for all sorts of reasons.
by ursula on Jun 25, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was shocked
too with Horner being left off. For a few reasons. Maybe they don’t think he has recovered enough?
by cyclingdiva on Jun 25, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe.
I certainly hope that’s the excuse. But how real is it?
Interesting that Gerrans was training with them also and now two major domestiques are stilling at home.
by ursula on Jun 25, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stilling at home?
is that a mashup of sitting at home and still at home?
by ZoeRochelle on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something like that
lol. The 8 am I’m at work too early version.
by ursula on Jun 25, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is a huge
mistake not taking Horner and it makes my stomach hurt. I didn’t but the two together about them training together. hmmm
by cyclingdiva on Jun 25, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps
Ursula knows more about their off-the-books sources of revenue generation than he’s admitting to.
Coming to a dry county near you this summer: Cannonball run46, the professional cyclist edition. “That ain’t endurox in them bidons . . .”
by R Mc on Jun 25, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read the reason was..
He chrashed 3 times this season and he broke someting 3 with all the falls.. They didn’t want to take the risk of that in the Tour
Crashdan: "Veni Vidi Vici beats Wing Kong Exchange... … and I’ll change my signature to a backwards smile for a month."
Frining "It's what he thinks.. But he always do.. I eat my shoe if he ride top 15 in le Tour" about Devolder
by Frinking on Jun 25, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Noval for Contador
neither Horner for Armstrong, is fair.:P
by semprenaroda on Jun 25, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I want to know
is how long it will take for the Borat parody shirts to appear . . .
by R Mc on Jun 25, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So lemme get this straight
the t-shirt printer knew before Horner did? These guys are just plain weird.
Abruzziamo!
by Chris... on Jun 25, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that's the case, that the printer knew before Horner, c'mon. They respect Horner too much.
Sure wanted Horner, but it’s sensible that they have more power to control things should Contador inconceivably get the yellow by chance. Yea? They looked to have plenty of climbers before the last three were picked, so as much as I wanted Horner, it didn’t look likely.
by sminer on Jun 25, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strange phrasing in saying that alberto is the team leader.
Instead of putting it that way, JB says Bert’s worked hard, “earning the right to represent our team as out leader this July.” Presumably Bert IS the leader, and this isn’t a symbolic statement.
by JFS_PGH on Jun 25, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Bert is not happy
that Noval isn’t there. I had the impression he was very close with Bert and sort of a buffer against some of the stress/hassles of the race.
by Katiek on Jun 25, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gives me hope for the Vuelta
That Contador will do that. Astana could be quite a good team there:
Contador
Zubeldia
Noval
Navarro
Horner
Brajkovic
Bazayev
Paulinho
Hernandez
by ursula on Jun 25, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kloden
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
chechu too....
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by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Klodi + Checu.
Yep, forgot them. Still a very good team.
by ursula on Jun 25, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only one token Kazakh?
Then methinks the Kazakh government did not cough up as much money as it claimed.
Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.
by Josenka on Jun 25, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and i think
they choose one, because have too…lol
by semprenaroda on Jun 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some sensitive types out there huh? All worried about insulting someone.
Zubeldia – 9 Tours. That’s a lot of miles around France.
JB – 12 GTs
by phantom_51 on Jun 25, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
neither's la... didn't get his wish it appears (horner on the squad)
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by umwolverine on Jun 25, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't blame him
I’m furious that he was left out
by Bruce Suomi on Jun 25, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can understand that
Does his contract end this year? Negociations frequently take place in July… if he’s angry at Astana, another team may take advantage of that…
by MathieuG on Jun 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Horner? Thank you, say all competing teams
Johan Bruyneel, what a moron.
by Jens on Jun 25, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And once again, JB
flips off ASO. How? Including Kloden on the tour squad. Perhaps he’s gunshy because of Gusev’s successful appeal, but Kloden is suspicious 3 ways to Freiburg—and his inclusion on the team opens the door to all sorts of wonderful news stories in the German Press.
by R Mc on Jun 25, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ASO?
Bringing that sorry sack of s*** is flipping everybody off.
by Jens on Jun 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's nice, lets not classify Jens as everybody here
we all know you hate his guts, not everyone does. I don’t like him as much as other Germans but am glad he’s starting.
by Phil H. on Jun 25, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indifferent concerning Kloden, if ASO had made any kind of a rumble
don’t think he would have been invited. Jens remark about “No Horner” and competing teams being thankful, I didn’t look at it that way, but that’s so true.
EJBPMO might need an avatar for that one, hmmm.
by sminer on Jun 25, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really hate his guts as much as my comments indicate.
In many ways I think he is an admirable racer. Always doing his job for his team, seldom whining and at times underappreciated for his results.
I’m merely using him as a symbol of the shitty way the sport and some athletes are dealing with the problem of doping.
- When everyone around him has been exposed as sytematic dopers, teammates say he’s doped (some outright in testimony and some with not so subtle hints). A very thourough commission on the Freiburg-clinic has presented proof (that they deem solid enough not to get them into legal problems) he has doped. Still he is allowed to ride along as if nothing happened. Does anyone think this sends the signal that we want the dopingproblem to go away?
- His ludicrous ramblings about his own purity and how he’s such a wonderfully gifted athlete that he doesn’t need to dope (in the face of all we know) tick me off a little bit, I will agree.
So when I call him a sorry sack of shit it is a slightly more drastic way of saying “this is a man who has no place racing before he has served some kind of sentence for his past cheating and Astana/ASO should know better than to bring/allow him in the race”
by Jens on Jun 26, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep. shades of virenque, n'est=ce pas?
If Boonen has to go through his farce trial, Klodi should also be excluded.
The flags went up big time when he went out of his way to decline joining Stapleton’s T-Mobile squad.
And the positives of riders like Rebellin, Schuhmacher (who I liked . . .) and Kohl (note: ALL on an allegedly clean team at the time of the positives) suggests that the claim that someone like Kloden has been scared into riding clean is not really applicable.
by R Mc on Jun 26, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His inclusion made me wince
but eh, if he’s riding clean, or if he gets caught red handed (or scarlet blooded?) either way, it’s good for the sport. I can live with it, as ASO apparently can.
by JFS_PGH on Jun 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lotto
Wouldn’t have left him off, if he’d stayed there. Wonder if Popo is going to show some heart/form this year?
by McDiesel on Jun 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
true
Horner’s missed two tours in a row now hasn’t he? maybe if he stayed with Lotto he could have had his team leader win one of them as well. Wonder if he’s even thought about that?
by Wireless on Jun 25, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bit of a tough comparison to make though
because Astana has so many more top domestique’s than Lotto does.
by Phil H. on Jun 25, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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