A not so gentle reminder about the tone of our discussions
We are 99.9% the best site around, sporting or otherwise and our discussions are always a lot of fun including the vigorous debates we have regarding whether Nihilism is a valid ethos.
That last .1%, though, has developed quite a set of vocal cords the last few days. I would remind everyone to review Chris' Annual Reminder of the rules for PodiumCafe participation and present the following chart as a guideline. Let's remember to stay at the top of the pyramid when discussing Drew even our most loathed competitors. Some have been toiling at the base a bit too much.

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Guilty however,
I refute this triangle, given that at its center is a gross contradiction, and on top of that, an implicit counter-argument. Further, the whole entire premise is resting on an ‘ass hat’. As for the resulting tone……..Ad hominem tu quoque.
Bah....Cavendish?!
Thanks Dan
For putting this up. The asshattery was becoming a bit much.
by australopithecine on Jul 10, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions
Wohooo Asshat!

http://www.kazan-the-man.com/hosted/funnypics/asshat.jpg
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
I see your Asshat and raise you one...monkey butt

Bah....Cavendish?!
by bradBordeaux on Jul 10, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow bradB, lets mature a little here will you?...sheesh(shakes head in horrible dissapointment)
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
At least
our conversations don’t involve people actually putting hands around the other’s throat. Check the most recent LA interview here (it’s the one he gave right after the stage today) at ~ :30. One of his bodyguards (?) decides to make his point by putting his hands around a journos neck.
(I don’t blame LA for that, of course. That scrum is nuts – the same interview on Eurosport shows him just about getting crushed.)
You don't blame him
But confess, you do think he’s a douche bag.
"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!
I'm still wondering
why that’s an insult?
"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!

An argument isn’t just contradiction.
It can be.
No it can’t. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
No it isn’t.
Yes it is! It’s not just contradiction.
Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
Yes, but that’s not just saying ‘No it isn’t.‘
Yes it is!
No it isn’t!
"The Map is not the Territory" ~ A. Korzybski
by le.tour.fan on Jul 10, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
Unfortunately
I think he’s back already. Or at least we’ve got someone who just joined and immediately posted an anti-Lance thread, complete with “the facts” and a bunch of misspelled words.
Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine
Sounds like our boy
Wanna shoot me the link or the screen name he’s using? I can ban all day :-)
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
I don't think it's the same
That said, one can always, under the “actions” button, “flag” a post. This will help admin note issues that might otherwise go unnoted.
(Also encourage the use of the “rec” option under “actions”, too. Dan’s post yesterday deserved a good bit of green highlighting (the result of five recs, I think . . .)).
Drew's got mail.
Might not be him, but certainly worth keeping an eye on.
Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine
Excellent, thanks!
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
Flagging it is probably better than replying
I used it once before (and I bet I wasn’t the only one) and the mods must have agreed with me because all that user’s comments had vanished next time I stopped by.
Ah yes, recing comments
I’ve seen on other SB blogs were members know you can do that(I guess we now do) that the comment lights up nice and green, but I think it only took 2 recs. I will rec Drew’s comment below and others should too because I want to see some green glowing.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
by Phil H. on Jul 11, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice post Dan
I couldn’t believe there were almost a thousand post race thread comments. Then I wandered in. I quickly left. What a train wreck.
Ah, thank you
I have been contemplating that thread with fear and bemusement. I had decided not to tackle it until after my morning coffee. You’ve solved the first problem of the day for me – I shall give it a miss. Pity, ’cause I am sure that there is probably some interesting insight lurking there somewhere :-(.
No... there are nuggets... but you should leave them be...
… I think that thread is radioactive. It is the Hulk of threads… don’t make it angry.
Respect the Shit List; it respects you.
yeah, there's really no reason to go there
let it die and toast its death.
"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!
really, that bad huh, ok......cover me....i'm going in...
Bah....Cavendish?!
by bradBordeaux on Jul 11, 2009 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions
man, why did no one stop me.....
Bah....Cavendish?!
by bradBordeaux on Jul 11, 2009 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions
bah me, stupid me..next time i'll listen..
Bah....Cavendish?!
by bradBordeaux on Jul 11, 2009 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, Brad
…are you like the guy in the horror movie who opens the door?
"Think globally, bike locally."
no I'm the guy who smells it, when some says "Damn, this smells like shit!"
BAH!!!!....Cavendish?!
by bradBordeaux on Jul 15, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
it was like..
… a train, wrecked into an orphanage.
You know you are supposed to move by…
But you just have to turn your and look….
GAH what a meltdown. Nice bitchslap though Dan, you’re still my hero.
by Christopher See on Jul 11, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
There one thing you won't want to miss:
Video of the Feillu brothers after the stage. Very touching.
Romain
wasn’t that excited when he wore the yellow jersey was he?
by australopithecine on Jul 10, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Awwwww!
Thank you, that has just made my morning. Soooo sweet :-)
That is a fantastic thread
makes me tear up.. I want to join in and have a group hug
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
no kidding
Got me a little choked up, too. I saw the two screencaps at the other thread, and I was so pleased to see the link to the video afterward.
Oh that's tremendous.
I was really happy for him today.
i saw the 900+ comments and instantly knew there must have been some tomfoolery
thanks crashdan, thanks chris!
podium cafe is The Commentary of Cycling; never compromise its quality.
"Race radios in Cat 4?"
That moster thread is a perfect example as to why...
you don’t fuck with the classics on PdC, we will defend them with honor!!!
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
Ass Hat
Thanks. I like saying it.
Ass Hat. Ass Hat.
Don’t tase me bro.
Go Lance! (Don't tase me, Bro, don't tase me!)
a lot of baiting going on recently, in my opinion
One of the keys to the game behind the civil tone at podium cafe is that everyone usually manages to not take the bait when it’s offered. I’ve failed miserably a couple of times myself but i’m a lot happier with the outcome when i manage to resist. Just a reminder to all the other fish out there – worms – hooks – be careful. Between all the new members who haven’t all clued in to the vibe here yet, and the always volatile subject of LA, we’re in dangerous waters for the next few weeks.
Actually, i have to say, considering some of the flame that’s been spewed here recently, it’s remarkable that things haven’t deteriorated further, as they would have on most message boards. More props to Chris and the others for managing to have created this place and the vibe that goes with it. Chapeau
+1 and then some...
excellent job calming the fire and brimstone…..limestone, granite…what have you
Bah....Cavendish?!
by bradBordeaux on Jul 11, 2009 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions
don't forget the talc
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
That is hilarious....
Wow, so one of your long standing members and admitted “fan” of cycling launched into an attack against me….. violating every part of the cute pyramid you have going on there.
And why ?? all becuz I am not a Lance Armstrong fan…. never have been, never will be…. but hey, if you girls wanna be go right ahead and have at it.
What I love is that it is OK for your members to go off on tirades and violate your terms of use…. BUT, when someone else comes on here speaking nothing but truth they are attacked and told that they will get banned.
What a bunch of fucking posers.
by Tha Billdozer on Jul 11, 2009 7:13 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You need to chill
People asked you kindly and repeatedly to abide by the simple rules of the house, which you chose to ignore . You are allowed to any opinions but take the suggestions, look up the the very easy houserules which basically comes down to maintaining a civil tone and not disrespect fellow posters.
People here have very differing opinions, not least on LA so stop acting as if this is an attack on your opinions. It’s all about how you are expressing them. Clean it up or go home.
Ah, The Force is strong in this one.
There are plenty of people here who don’t like Lance. Snark, you can get away with, but any more and you will be attacked by a gang of Care Bears and My Little Ponies and cuddled into submission. I admire your spirit, but you’re never going to win this one.
Yeah, ok, it's time for you to get your hat and coat and go to someone else's party.
I just had to wade through your previous two days of blathering rants, I’m not even into my second cup of coffee of the day, and I just realized that I’ll never get those 11 minutes of my life back (yes, I read slowly).
What we’ve got here is failure to communicate. It’s been explained to you a number of times how we interact here, and you’ve blithely ignored that. This is our sandbox and we set the rules, so if you want to add ‘Fascist’ to your low opinion of us, I’ll cheerfully accept it. That’s one of the perks about working for Chris – he gives me executive powers.
So, without further ado, I am escorting you to our virtual door and sending you off into the proverbial night. Find another party to crash because we don’t want you at ours. Kindly fuck off.
Adieu
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
by Drew Davis on Jul 11, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
You're my hero for the day.
Thinking hard - really hard - of something witty to say....
NIcely done.
No one can say the guy didn’t get a lot of chances.
Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine
clap clap clap.
seriously. Well executed, Drew.
by Christopher See on Jul 11, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank ya. Thank ya very much.

I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
that's my boy
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
That's closer to the true ;-)
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
dude, how absolutely friggin' clueless are you?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously, the carefully constructed criticisms continue to evade you...
… and I’m fine with that “Tha Billdozer”.
Now go home and get your fucking shinebox.
Respect the Shit List; it respects you.
I know...
… I almost love Tha Billdozer for that. Almost.
Actually I don’t
♥♥♥ Tha Billdozer ♥♥♥
Respect the Shit List; it respects you.
So you think the carepetpissers did this?
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
Honestly? He was making my head hurt.
And if keeping a troll like that around costs us one happy person from sticking around, well, I just can’t abide that.
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
I like yer style dude
thanks
"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!
You're entirely welcome :-)
Going after Dan was the straw that broke my camel’s back.
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
OK Hons you lost me
Is crashdan Baby to Drew’s Swayze here or how should we interpret this?
Perhaps dan is JenGrey/Swayze dancing while Billdozer is JennGreys dad, which would make Drew JennGreys mom, holding him back?
Can we stick to Lebowski-analogies? I’m having a hard time with this sophisticated, highbrow stuff.
Actually
to really mix metaphors, I think JennGreys dad would be Basso…
"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten
Now you're just making my head hurt
Snow’s melting Dude…………………….
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
It's about time
In related news, I watched Lebowski again the other day, so I feel tranquilo about keeping up around here now.
"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten
Shut the fuck up Hons
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
Jens, had he replied to you in that manner I would have done the same thing.
So you’ll have to draw your own conclusions ;-)
I’ve never done time so I can’t comment on the whole baby-thing.
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
(Satire)

Yes, well, of course, this is just the sort blinkered philistine pig ignorance I’ve come to expect from you non-creative garbage. You sit there on your loathsome, spotty behinds squeezing blackheads, not caring a tinker’s cuss about the struggling artist. (shouting) You excrement! You lousy hypocritical whining toadies with your lousy colour TV sets and your Tony Jacklin golf clubs and your bleeding masonic handshakes! You wouldn’t let me join, would you, you blackballing bastards. Well I wouldn’t become a freemason now if you went down on your lousy, stinking, purulent knees and begged me.
"The Map is not the Territory" ~ A. Korzybski
by le.tour.fan on Jul 11, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
maybe quotes would help...
I do like Cleese though… black sarcastic bugger that one.
by Christopher See on Jul 11, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
cant find the edit option hmm . .
"The Map is not the Territory" ~ A. Korzybski
by le.tour.fan on Jul 11, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Its known as the Architect Sketch
"The Map is not the Territory" ~ A. Korzybski
by le.tour.fan on Jul 11, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
unfortunately there are no edit capabilities for these threads....
one has to make sure of what one wishes to say before hitting the button with the big P on it…
by Christopher See on Jul 11, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Apology
I apologize if anyone was offended by the above Satire piece Sans Quotation marks , except for the person it was intended to mock, other than that I am deeply and truly remorseful.
"The Map is not the Territory" ~ A. Korzybski
by le.tour.fan on Jul 11, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I apologize I was being too picky...
I can be that way on Saturday mornings before I have my legs ripped off… and it’s raining.
by Christopher See on Jul 12, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
"Precisely the sort of blinkered, philistine, pig-ignorance I've come to expect..."
One of my all time, favorite accusations ever.
Respect the Shit List; it respects you.
Yikes, Drew is in charge?
Man, I go away to China for a couple years and all asshat breaks loose. On the other hand, this could be good. Kind of like the time in college when those people accidentally thought I was so good at making sandwiches that I might also make an excellent bouncer for the college pub.
dealin' with beef is
dealin’ with beef.
(Also, I don’t think Drew’s really in charge. That button wasn’t plugged into anything. Shhh.)
It wasn't?
So then why did he disappear, huh?
Button wasn’t connected to anything…………hummph.
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
Bunch of fucking amateurs..........
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.

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