Tour de France Stage 8: Post-Stage Thread
Lovely scenery today, and some really cool moments (Casar bridging up to LuLu & co on a descent), but very little of importance. One wonders if the Tour people really believed that somehow a stage ending in a 30km descent would cause a result, but more likely everyone knew this would be a GC nothing-burger. Results:
- Luis Leon Sanchez, Caisse d'Epargne
- Sandy Casar, Francais de Jeux, st
- Mikel Astarloza, Eusketel-Euskadi, st
- Vladimir Efimkin, AG2R, +3"
- JJ Rojas, CdE (+1'54")
No change on GC, which Astana probably appreciates. Look for them to avoid yellow tomorrow too, since it's the last day before a thankless week of defending on flatter stages. In case you forgot:
- Rinaldo Nocentini, AG2R
- Alberto Contador, Astana, at 0.06
- Lance Armstrong, Astana, at 0.08
I won't be around much today, big family action here, but please do keep the chatter going. We will do additional post-race threads if it starts bulging like yesterday.
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Oh well that was better
than I’d expected.
Whoops, spoke too soon…
Oh here we go, “Bad Tony!”, FFS…
Paul McCartney?
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Jul 11, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
David McKenzie
Giro stage winner, you know ;-)
Errr... right
On the Linda McCartney team no less ;)
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Jul 11, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
do we need to get the hose?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
who? moi?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Look for Saxo
to try and drop Nocentini tomorrow again. I think they were trying to get the maillot jaune onto Astanas shoulders today.
"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten
Would be a very smart move.
It puts pressure on Astana which is the only way you will get Contador to crack, as we saw in Paris/Nice.
Astana has a much more motivated group than in P/N.
"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH
That doesn't really matter.
Because if you want to beat Contador, you really have only one choice right now. You must get him into the yellow jersey. I know Astana has a better crew, but if you really want to beat him you must get him into yellow.
Agreed
Some people think he’ll act funny liek if he has to shoulder yellow for a long time
Probably not
But worth a try. As it stands they have total control and are under no pressure.
Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2009 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah but again, Astana will just let another break go and gain huge time
they aren’t doing any work what so ever until the Alps, the flats are for the sprint teams, if they want glory they have to do the work. Astana sits back and hopes someone else gets the lead.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
Very astute
Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2009 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah but I think they wanted Astana to have the yellow in the mountains tomorrow
if they have it in the flats they won’t do much work. Why should they care if it’s a sprint or nor? Columbia will be back to going on the front.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
LL is a class act!
That was a masterful win. He was the strongest and still needed to be very cagey. He rode the final k like a true master.
"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH
Yeah great stage hunter, I don't think he'll ever be a Tour threat but he can rack up many stage wins
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
Vuelta maybe, he can get advice from Valverde about not being suckered into thinking you can win the Tour
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
Yes true, but there are many other's who are around his age and better climbers already
he seems more of a classics rider, not a natural climber for the big Tour mountains. I think he’ll have a great career, but more like Valverde than Contador.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
did we lose an Oscar?
half listening to the live feed, half watching Vs.
CN says he dropped out due to "poor form"
possibly left over from his crash last year. I hope he’s not Beloking.
saw an interview with the ds
said, yeah just didn’t have the legs – 4 months off the bike due to the injury and not back in form yet
Podium Girls !!! Kiss my cheek
"The Map is not the Territory" ~ A. Korzybski
by le.tour.fan on Jul 11, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
Sad for Astarloza...Euskie win in the Pyrenees would have been sweet, and he worked so hard.
Pity he has, like, no sprint!
Adrenalina Italiana!
Sanchez fairly clinical
Sandy behaved like Sanchez’s trained slipstream monkey
Can i just say... yaaaaaaay :)
LL Sanchez is probably my joint favourite rider in this race with Contador so in complete heaven right now ;)
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
They should form a spanish "team Sanchez"
Would go close to winning
6:30 AM EDT Versus
"The Map is not the Territory" ~ A. Korzybski
by le.tour.fan on Jul 11, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Its really 7 AM (broacast)
"The Map is not the Territory" ~ A. Korzybski
by le.tour.fan on Jul 11, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Four am pdt?
F that
Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 11, 2009 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Chris is just a fan.
Getting up at 7 is killing me as it is; 4 doesn’t even seem like a possibility.
hah
I didn’t even have basic cable until two weeks ago. I’m about 8 years out from a DVR.
(Although I do have an ex DVRing all the mountain stages so I can see them in HD . . . )
how does one watch tv w/o a dvr/tivo?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I do.
So much is available on line or On Demand that I rarely miss having DVR. Admittedly, I don’t know what I’m missing, but my sense is that if I did have it, I’d have dozens of hours of stuff recorded that I’d never get around to watching—to go with the dozens of unwatched DVDs lying around that I never seem to catch up with.
Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine
I've learned a lot about Snuggies
and dick pills in the last week.
not sure... have to wait until today's live feed is done...
i think today went from the start (6.15am edt us) due to the climb…
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, wait, tv broadcast or streaming?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
here in the states, versus tv broadcast pre-race at 7am, live stream prob not until about 7.20 or so
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
okay, that was a confusing answer. versus broadcast live race prob not until 7.20 or so
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
live streaming for stage 9 starts at 12.20 local
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Efemkin dragged down
By the horrible brown colour
Yay, gorgeous smile
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Love that smile :-))
Well done LL… wahooo
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
actually, yellow and brown really isn't a bad combination, imo
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
stage hunting later on?
He must have realised he was not good enough to crack top-10. MIght have chosen to do stage hunting indeed.
"Where there’s a will, there’s a way.": Alberto Contador, shortly after waking up from brain surgery.
Look at those guns
Maybe his is Austrian German
I'm real interested to see if he can keep it up in the Alps
because if he has advanced that much in the last year then we could be looking at a Tour winner very soon.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
Aww nice to see him getting that, he fought hard!
Did you catch Kern on the podium?
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
As did my live feed apparently :(
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
The online version just paid for itself
An obviously unawares Paul & Phil, as Most Aggressive Rider jersey was getting a podium girl kiss:
P, low and breathlessly: “Hi, Mommy.”
P: “Hello, Love, I’m the Most Aggressive Rider.”
Sound switched immediately.
I thought I hallucinated or misheard that.
Thanks for confirmation! Fucking awesome.
anybody remember bobke's f-bomb?
in reaction to dessel flying off the road during stage 17 in ‘06 (when ’roid’ landis went solo all day).
he and trout were snickering, oblivious that they were mic’ed.
"Race radios in Cat 4?"
this is nothing... way back in, 2004 or 2005? oln had the live race audio feed and boy, that was something
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 11, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Think i saw the Grupetto roll in but i was too busy focusing on Sanchez ;)
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Did anyone notice that.........
PELLIZOTTI Franco – Finished 14 mins down ? Oh my
What? What happened there?!
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
No explaination as yet
In other news – This isnt the GIRO :)
Official stage hunter now
possibly planned by him anyway, Nibali and Kreuz have a better chance to do well in GC.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
Only reason i can think of to
He was mega impressive in the GIRO – as usual
Giro is the race he prepared for his whole season
the Tour he added onto his schedule late. Very rarley can someone who focuses so much on the Giro be able to recover quickly enough to do well in the Tour.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
Maybe LA will take the same steps
To re-assert team structure :)
si, i wouldn't be surprised
either saving his legs for a stage win or to help out the kidz.
not a bad choice either way. a stage win would be huge for him, better than a top 15 finish or whatever.
I'm such a dope
I just clicked on something by accident and now all my icons from the bottom of the screen are on the right hand side of the screen. Very confusing
thanks
that worked. It’s my work laptop and it was embarassing enough that last week my cat walked across the laptop and the fonts got all messed up.
My live feed totally cut off the KOM presentation...
as did eurosport, why no Kern love? :(
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Well, obviously.
They know no one has him on year-long VDS, so why bother?
Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine
Yes, that'll keep them happy and us girls love the kit, happy people all round :D
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Oh I mean you don't have to but umm.....sure it would help with the umm. quality of the story
so you know, why not……ahem…please please please!
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
HA! I am meeting some of the riders today before the San Rafeal Crit
…..and Phil…these girls are adorable!!
looks like it will be a good field tonight, no?
"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!
any gals from lipsmackers there?
If so, if you run into Kacey Manderfield, tell her Moritz tells her howdy from TX.
And final props to Cadel
The little engine that could. I will switch back over to the ASHES now
I owe you so much right now!!!
Thanks x a million
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Sorry, I don't speak Spanish, starting to learn next week
I wanted it more to screen shot off, plus he sounds lovely…
I imagine he’ll say it’s a huge loss and they’ll miss him though regarding Pereiro
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
There's a new one? Awesome!
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
All right all right, http://www.as.com/ciclismo/articulo/luis-leon-sanchez-siempre-dedico/dasclm/20090711dasdascic_3/Tes
I think
post-race comments
thought steph meant there was something else.
no worries though – thanks for that one.
Cute interview!
He really does seem like one of the nice guys in the peloton
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
well... he's a spectacular bike rider
and may be a nice guy (and I hate to sound cruel) but… 4 references to the guidance from his “brother who is in the sky” in less than 2 minutes plus a load of commonplaces is hardly top interview material… sorry
And to AG2R
The yellow Jersey for 2 days at least AND 2 guys inside the Top 20
If only they could all be in yellow
To stop all the brown. Brown is the new black – Even bloody SBS are wearing it
Rojas took the sprint for 5th from the peloton...
But he looks much happier about LL’s win, no? Sorry it’s poor, best i could do with shitty feed…

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
He's tougher than he looks :)
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Hey, if last year Sanchez won Stage 7 and this year he's won Stage 8 will he win Stage 9 next year ;)
Or is the wine helping me draw bad conclusions
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Tbh the giddyness could be from his win too ;)
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Well my last name is Nutter so i guess it's inevitable..
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
I will check the odds for podium finish tomorrow- Pellizotti
Stranger things have happened
Now that he's officually 55th
From 17th Yesterday
Does anyone know why Sammy Sanchez didn't come this year ?
He looked ready for something last year
Vuelta domination!
ah he will probably finish 4th but he can give it a try.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
He was pretty good at the Vasco this year
Not as good as Bert, but still umm..good
Which is where Cadel realized Jurgen VDB was a class act
And thus decided to very correctly ask for his presence at le tour – and so far so good
Eh, VDB has never actually done a Vuelta
7th at last year’s Giro is were people started raising eyebrows.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
They meant at Pais Vasco VDB shined...
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Can we talk a little about the shoes?
I kind of like the shoes, just looking at them. But when they wear them it looks like they have bananas on their feet.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
On the ASHES
What is the record for most people making 100’s in 1 innings ?
Ooops i meant to say
Fashion and cycling are mutually exclusive things :)
I love yellow shoes, as you may have noticed.
Guys wearing them are all pretty cool. And they usually prevail. Today they took a stage (Sanchez) and the polka dot jersey (Kern), hehe
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Cancellara will borrow shorts from AG2R tomorrow
He got a problem with his stomach during the stage today. The plan was Andy and Fränk attacking on Col d’Agnes, and then Fabian to help them, but he had to back down earlier than that.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
i thought i didnt get vds points today
but then i saw vladimir efimkin in top 5, so when i was trying to guess my total points i was so glad to add ZERO points for vladimir ………karpets
From Cadel's website:
Pro cyclists start carrying on like 3 y.o’s in a temper tantrum when a G.C contender in their break is no longer to their advantage. Oh well, that’s racing, and a little bit to do with why you don’t often see serious GC threats in breaks – usually a waste of energy…
Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine
Why deny the fact that Astana quit pulling in the peloton as soon as Cadel was dropped?
And the gap juped from 30s to 2m30s.
I am not denying that!
Just saying it was ironic that Cancellara was whining and then the first to get dropped.
George Hincapie
smiles and shows us his thighs. (from Mark Renshaw’s Twitter)
Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine
"We will do additional post-race threads if it starts bulging like yesterday."
For what it’s worth, yesterday’s behemoth thread doesn’t take any longer to load than this one does. Is everything we know wrong?
Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine
Maybe so, I have browsed other SB sites before
and many for big American sports, such as baseball, put up one live game thread and it gets up to over 1000 before a potential 2nd thread.
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
I'm on a crappy computer right now
and it does get mighty sluggish when we reach big numebers (350+) . Comments start coming in lumps of 5-10 rather than one at a time. It’s almost impossible to post as the cursor simply will not appear in the commentbox while other comments are loading (which they are pretty much all the time) . It also clogs the entire browserwindow making it hard to alternate between tabs. On IE.
Love this photo from Pez, Fabian Wegmann you dirty dawg

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=7269&status=True&catname=Latest%20News
Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)
I hope he doesn't have a girlfriend at home
or that is going to get him into so much trouble. The smile in the end specifically.
Ha ha
have you seen that photo of Obama and Sarkozy
the video is the thing to see, though.
Funny in two respects. Turns out that Obama isn’t checking her out at all. In fact, he’s helping someone else down the stairs. Sarkozy? Goes to great lengths to maintain the checkout. Hilarious.
I know this is from a few days ago
but just wanted to make sure everyone saw/heard these audio clips on the NY Times site, including a great clip from Jens! about pet peeves on the Tour
Mixing it up
Is anyone else thrilled to see AGR2 light it up in this tour? Must be the new jerseys.
From Chris Anker Sörensens TdF Blog
You are a bit of a mountain ape?
Yes this was the question this morning from a team of Norwegian journalists. I do not think it was the best interview I have given during the tour here because I just did not understand everything he said. The Norwegian language is a bit of puzzle or the journalist was just very drunk, but so are probably Norwegians in general. They were at least the one time I sailed with the Oslo ferry. But back to the interview, one can easily imagine he said something about the team and I answered about what I expected of myself on todays stage. But I could not but confirm that mountain monkey, that was me. And it served me well on today’s stage. We started up a 23 km long climb, and gosh was it hard, the first man was dropped after a kilometer or so. I fortunately had fairly good legs, though of course you can feel you are a week into the tour. I also helped put pressure on up to today’s final mountain, so Andy could try to shake the competitors. As you probably saw nothing came out of it, but who dares nothing wins nothing. In other highlights, today I made a personal speed record for the year’s tour, 104 mph down the last descent.
Very ambitious blog with almost daily updates. Google translation works well enough. This translation was slightly improved(?) by me.
I believe that it is 104 kph and not miles per hour
otherwise I think he he might be in a bit of trouble
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