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So asks this cbssportline.com commentary by Gary Doyle. Besides the usual mainstream bather by non-cycle press, This one at least made be go humm.

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One of these days I will elarn to spell really - Peleton sorry!

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Jul 12, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly from all if my posts you'd never guess i was paid to write stuff

Its a good thing I have people to proof my work. I wonder if I can get them to start working on my posts too?

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Jul 12, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would you like to buy another vowel? (it’s actually an o mate ;)

by plinytheelder on Jul 12, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wow, that's a whole heap of ignorance wrapped into one shitty column

by some shitty writer who clearly knows nothing at all about cycling. I wonder how such morons get to write for a major site like CBS when 99.9% of people here could do FAR better. Good to see that people were enraged in the comments section. For writing that gigantic fresh turd of an article he should be forced to ride 250km over the Alps withing 9 hours.

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 1:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Phil quit beating around the bush and tell us what you really think

by plinytheelder on Jul 13, 2009 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I actually thoroughly enjoyed the article

it was a nice refreshing and intelligent view of the current state of cycling. Only such intellects should be writing for CBS and not people who have no idea about cycling like Chris, Gavia. and ursula and the rest…..OK there you go pliny.

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the comments on the article

were generally agreeing with us …. that the author had no clue …. which was at least “refreshing”

sometimes life is a false flat

by Willj on Jul 13, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swedish media can be plenty ignorant

but is really takes a pompous jackass american jock of the highest caliber to really crank out art like this.

This was almost better than the swedish panel of “experts” on morning TV who said that there was so much medical shenanians whith IVs and such going on in cycling that “they are practically replacing bodyparts between stages”

by Jens on Jul 13, 2009 4:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

While the column itself is drivel, the question is interesting

I think it is really quite interesting that LA can come back and be right at the top, not in a bad way I don’t think he’s drugged up or anything. I suppose the biggest factor is probably the team he is on as it is probably the strongest most stacked team in history so he has the support around him. But on the other hand it isn’t as if the team is carrying him, he’s going over those hills quite easily. I guess for a certain level of pro sportsman you never really retire and totally let yourself go. He was probably still cycling hundreds of miles a week and keeping trim because that’s all he knows. Not to mention running a marathon here or there.

Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!

by sir eccles on Jul 13, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Plus, let's see what happens in the Alps and on Ventoux

before we all declare him “back”. It’s been noted before that the Pyrenean stages weren’t exactly the toughest mountain stages the Tour has ever featured. He did well on Friday, but he had plenty of company on Saturday and Sunday.

by Le Comte on Jul 13, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wrote the author a nice note

using the word “ignorant”…

Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!

by Chris... on Jul 13, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah, yes, the July ritual

Some dumbass sports journo – and I use this term in the loosest possible way – decides to write the “why cycling isn’t a sport” or “why cyclists are a bunch of girly men” article.

Meh.

I can’t believe these people get paid.

by gavia on Jul 13, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Doyle's stock in trade, an apology

As far as I can tell, he’s paid to be controverisal. He even has a mailbag where he answers people who tell him how much he sucks. He answers back in kind.

deep breath

That said sometimes his columns hit their targerts dead center. Bascially he takes a sport and takes a different point of view of the normal media and says in essence, what’s wroung with this competition? Not surprisingly he does finds something quite wrong.

Now to this article. His main point-behind all the dope-baiting- is that it makes no sense for a 37 year old to be seriously contesting in such a difficult contest. And he’s completely right, at least on the surface. There is no biological way that Lance should be 8 seconds behind at this stage, again on the surface. Something has to be seriously wrong with that picture. He correctly notes how Jordan wasn’t in his prime with the Wizards and the same should apply to Armstrong too. BUT Jordan wasn;t god damned awful in his advanced age but in Doyle’s rush to be controversial he minimizes that. As Pee Wee herman says, BIG! MISTAKE!

Now there are two ways to go from here. One is to note if the course is deceivingly placing Armstrong high; the other is to go into the doping angle.

Needless to say he misses the first thing, the tricked up course and my guess is that outside of golf and baseball (and much more so than golf and baseball) the course layout is such a huge factor in cycling compared to other sports. Being an American sports writer, I’m honestly not surprised to see him missing this completely in his rush to be controversial.

Thus he has to rely on doping, which is what he wanted to do all along probably. And to keep up his attitude he has to make cycling out to be worse than other sports, which of course, he has no idea about.

Sad. Doyle can be quite incisive. But he has to know something about what he’s writing about first. Unfortunately he doesn’t and a good opportunity is missed.

by ursula on Jul 13, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ya know ...

I didn’t think it was such as bad article. It did ask a few good questions, in a roundabout way, geared to generate controversy, that have me puzzling.

How did LA, according to his coach Chris Carmichael, gain 7 kg during his retirement? According to him, most of it was lean muscle and only 2-3 kg of it was fat.
      • How did LA loose ALL the extra weight (including all that lean muscle) without losing power (and without paying special attention to his diet) while at the same time returning to world class fitness?
      • The last time Lance lost that kind of muscle mass in that short a period of time, it took cancer and chemotherapy to do the job. What did Lance do differently this time?

Weight loss typically involves the loss of fat, water and muscle. In general, when the human body loses weight, the natural response is to burn fat to lean muscle in a roughly equal ratio: 1:1. In most circumstances, most overweight people typically try to reduce the percentage of body fat. Crash diets typically result in quick water loss. Low intensity exercise tends to burn more fat. High intensity exercise tends to burn more carbohydrates.
      • What special combination of diet and training did Lance use such that roughly 65% (approx 1:3 ratio) of his weight loss was lean muscle?
      • How was LA’s Tour preparation this year that much different than everybody else’s such that it had such a unique and favorable impact on him and such a comparatively less beneficial impact on everyone else?
      • Similarly, how was LA’s Tour preparation this year that much different than his own preparation in years previous such that it resulted in a dramatic loss of lean muscle?
      • In particular, how did a person who reportedly, "like many other elite athletes, has naturally the ability to pack on muscle mass quickly" temporarily suspend or even reverse such a natural tendency?
      • At the same time, how does Lance manage to apparently reactivate such a muscle growing capability during the Tour given that, "it’s part of the same set of [unmodifiable] genetic gifts that give him the ability to recover from hard workouts quickly"?

Taking a different and hopefully less controversial slant than the article, doesn’t Lance actually make a mockery of the Tour and his competition?
      • Apparently, it only takes him 12 months to prepare for the world’s most grueling endurance event while it takes years to decades for his competition to attain or maintain a unfortunately lower level of conditioning.
      • How is it that ALL his competitors are that relatively mortal while he appears to be so much more super human?

by RoadRash911 on Jul 15, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, for the first group of questions, I think the answer is that it’s simply mostly upper body muscle. Check out a photo of Armstrong early in this comeback, then look at a current one, the difference is kind of incredible, he looks like a linebacker in the photos from a few months ago (well compared to the other guys in the peloton anyways). As I understand it, when you get back on your bike after a layoff, the first muscle mass you lose is the upper-body stuff, since you’re not using it.

by plinytheelder on Jul 15, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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