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Tour Stage 10 Preview: Limoges - Issoudun

Stage 10 :: Tuesday July 14, 2009
194.5km :: Limoges - Issoudun

I imagine I'm the only one that looks at the finish line of stage 10 and misreads it perpetually as "Isildur". Yeah, thought so. This is the Tour de France though, and it will be Bastille Day, hence there may be cause to bestow the titles "Issoudun's Heir" and "Issoudun's Bain" before the day is out.

Having left the majority of the non-English speaking members behind within one paragraph and the non-Geek speaking contingent as well, I suppose I should just stick to the cycling. This stage isn't exactly flat, but to call it a "rolling, hilly" stage would be an insult to rolling and hilly stages. I'm guessing that Cat.4 Mountain status was conferred based on the amount of cash the City Father's ponied up to the organizing committee. I couldn't even find the first "mountain" of this stage using a terrain map.

Star-divide

Gavia must have something to say to make this stage more interesting than it appears...

This stage begins in Limoges near the center of the Hexagon and runs almost directly North to Issoudun. Along the way, the riders will climb three categorized climbs. Don't get too excited: All three climbs receive a category 4 rating. Four stands for easy. This stage should end in bunch sprint and the final kilometers are flat. The decision by the Tour organizers to ban radio contacts between the team cars and the riders may add a hint of drama to this stage, but it should not significantly alter the outcome.

Famed for the production of porcelain, Limoges has hosted the Tour de France on 13 occasions. The city holds the nickname of la ville rouge, the Red City, because of its leftist political tradition. France’s main trades union, the Confédération générale du travail, originated in Limoges in the late 19th century. The stage finishes in Issoudun, and this year marks the first visit of the Tour to this town in central France.

The most recent visit of the Tour de France to Limoges came in 2004, when it served as the start city for a stage ending in Saint-Flour. Like this year’s edition, that 2004 stage took place on Bastille Day. Richard Virenque won the stage in Saint-Flour after a lengthy breakaway, in which he dropped his companion Axel Merkcx and soloed to victory. Merckx later claimed the two had a deal to ride together to the finish. Rule #1: Never make a deal with a French rider on Bastille Day. Thomas Voeckler wore the Yellow Jersey as race leader, as a result of a lengthy breakaway during the first week of racing. Lance Armstrong won the overall in Paris.

Courtesy of Gavia's Stage 10 Preview at Steephill.tv

There really isn't much to say about today's stage by me.  The only way this doesn't end in a bunch sprint is because some Frenchman grew an afterburner. (PS: Go Thor)

First things first, proof that a stage profile produced by ASO is almost totally worthless.  That yellow EKG down there makes you think they're climbing the Rockies.

 

The parcours of the stage.  Provide commentary, speculation and general rest day pent up excitement below.  I'm gonna shut up now.


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I'm confused.

Are they riding towards Imladris or not?

by ursula on Jul 13, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And if so

I hope they don’t lose their bikes as they pass Tharbad.

by ursula on Jul 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gondor was a stupid name.

That is all.

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by crashdan on Jul 13, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very true.

It was cool when the Giro went through Moria last year.

by ursula on Jul 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cooler that they all made it out the other side.

Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine

by majope on Jul 13, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was this year, Ursula...

… and I don’t think the region has recovered from what was awoken.

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by crashdan on Jul 13, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's tourmalet stage

without Aspin and Tourmalet

Let’s be clear, it will be rude of anyone to chase a french guy on a break

sometimes life is a false flat

by Willj on Jul 13, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but they can say they had no idea there was a Frenchman in the break

because they have no radios, plus Cav loves to be rude.

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

goodness

and we wouldn’t want to be rude to our always pleasant French friends. ;-)

by IowaAC on Jul 13, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just kidding

(and have never experienced the stereotype French rudeness)

sometimes life is a false flat

by Willj on Jul 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have experienced it...

and it is mostly overblown and not true. The everyday common French folks are very kind and generous people, but there are some that view all of us American’s as cocky John Wayne cowboy types, which I somewhat perpetuated by having a straw cowboy hat on my bike which I wore proudly in the taverns. ;-)

by IowaAC on Jul 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

on a lighter note

the worst experience of my life was joining my wife in Paris to meet her friend. Who’s husband was an overweight used car salesman from Kentucky …. and had never travelled abroad. And he wasn’t shy.

No joke.

sometimes life is a false flat

by Willj on Jul 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Want to experience French rudeness?

My brother and I had a wee bit to drink while working on a stage performance in Paris and thought it would be cheeky to go to a French gentlemen’s club. We spent 15 minutes inside and then were handed a bill for $75 for a club soda, which we asserted was a ludicrous thing for them to have done. That experience very nearly ended harshly. After picking our way out of the alley we were summarily thrown into, my brother and I walked past several other clubs but only spoke to the bouncers in front in German and had entirely different experiences; the bouncer’s all told us that their clubs weren’t worth the money.

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by crashdan on Jul 13, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

I guess my example was an attempt to show the two sides of the french “rudeness” debate.

I have no doubt that if a million outspoken non english speaking tourists from France descended on New York every year … that they would not all receive kind treatment.

I guess I object to the stereotype as it is nowhere near my experience.

As to your experience …. I think it might be similar in a few thousand cities …. Vegas for example.

PS – I am pretty sure I have seen your naked photo on the wall of that last Parisien club I visited ;))

sometimes life is a false flat

by Willj on Jul 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well... I expect to get fleeced going to a club...

… I was just surprised at the difference in treatment between speaking English when you go inside and speaking German.

Beyond that, the French have always treated me quite well, although working with the technical director of the theater was an experience. Everyone I’ve met in Alsace has been quite pleasant and helpful and friendly.

Mmmmm.. flammkuchen…

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by crashdan on Jul 13, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep seen the photo in Alsace too

sometimes life is a false flat

by Willj on Jul 13, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like a big climb to me

How did Mt. Imodium AD not warrant a stronger category?

It looks like a tough hill to me.

by IowaAC on Jul 13, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hm

so much for getting the New York Review of Books as an advertiser…

Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!

by Chris... on Jul 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

QuickStep then

Boonen had diarrhea to start the Tour, and Allan Davis apparently pooed himself during a sprint in the Giro. When I hear Imodium I think – Quickstep. Maybe there’ll be a sponsorship change next year.

by croodle on Jul 13, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lemond had the craps too...

Interview question: I’ve seen many interviews with you conversing French and you’re very competent in the language.

GL: "Well, I never really did learn the polite version of the language. Years later, being interviewed by French TV, I would make grammar mistakes and sound really rough. For example, the first year I won the Tour de France, I had diarrhea on one stage, and when they interviewed me afterwards I said; “I had the shits” on TV. That night, a French professor drove something like six hours and sat in front of my house waiting for me to get home. When I finally did, he told me I should be using the polite grammar forms and to never swear on TV – but I never really changed much!"

by IowaAC on Jul 13, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like a Jens! sort of stage to win...if it's raining.

Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.

by Josenka on Jul 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Green Jersey madness

on tap. JSallee00 should be all over the front page tomorrow. Anyone think Oscar Freire can get back in the game? I see he got some points over the weekend when the others were out the back.

Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!

by Chris... on Jul 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think his sprint is up to snuff this year yet...

He doesn’t seem to have that kick like last year…though there is a definite possibility if he stays within 50 points and then on a mid-mountain stage can take more points…though I think that his green jersey game is done unless something drastic happens…like he gets both sprint spots and then gets second in the gallop

by Vlaanderen90 on Jul 13, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tomorrow

should be awesome. I think there will be a lot of attacks, but no radios will make the peloton quick to chase things down. Rojas has been looking really good, but he worked hard in the mountains. Thor even got in an early break on Saturday. While Cav just chilled at the back. Can’t wait to find out who has legs tomorrow.

"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!

by jsallee00 on Jul 13, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PS:

If this thread doesn’t at least match or exceed the quantity of posts in that toxic Stage 6: Post Race thread, you will all get no dessert tonight.

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by crashdan on Jul 13, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

asshat

sometimes life is a false flat

by Willj on Jul 13, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well done!

Way to stoke the fires, Will!

Actually, I meant to post that over in the “Introduce Yourself” thread… I got confused which tab I had open on which thread. Having the “Intro yourself” thread go to 1,000 posts is like the perfect antidote to that other one.

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by crashdan on Jul 13, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

amen brother

it’s a beautiful thing

sometimes life is a false flat

by Willj on Jul 13, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stage 7, wasn't it

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jul 13, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

live streaming (versus online anyway), starts at 14.00 local

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jul 13, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn this restday...

Issoudun yet?

Bah....Cavendish?!

by bradBordeaux on Jul 13, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You laugh now...

… but search the “Introduce yourself” thread for the phrase “Kings of Comedy”…

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by crashdan on Jul 13, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

is there a cliff notes version of that thread available?

maybe tomorrow. i have to finish up some more previews for you to snarf ;-)

by gavia on Jul 13, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh Gavia... not "snarf"...

… “snarf ruthlessly” or “snarf with seeming impunity”

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by crashdan on Jul 13, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Dan!

As much as I dislike this very bad Tour route, maybe the radio ban will liven up this stage, otherwise it’s a one more bore stage.
ASO did waste the Pyrenees, and more unforgivably, the Tourmalet.

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 13, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Johan Bruyneel on Dutch late night Tour show,

in response to the question if a Frenchman will win on Quatorze Juillet: “No. Definitely not.” Determined and slightly mischievous. In other words, any and all escape attempts will probably get shut down by the anti-radio-ban mafia.

by tedvdw on Jul 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What an asshat...

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But that's the thing

I agree with (Skip loudly clears his threat) Bruyneel: no breaks will be allowed to happen.

Now that Cavendish is in a real competition for the Points jersey he needs to maximize his scoring chances and this stage is one of those. So his team is gonna push hard against any escapes. Columbia wil be exhausted by the end of the day but they will probably prevail. In fact the next day may be a more likely day for a break to win because Columbia will be tired.

by ursula on Jul 13, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No I agree, I'm just know going to bash JB every chance I can

more in a fun sarcastic way, although inside I am giving him the evil eye. Tomorrow Columbia will make sure they get another stage win(it’s been 6 straight without one now, unacceptable!) I wonder what Ag2R would do if there is someone who is within 6 minutes but not so much of a GC threat(so Astana won’t chase)? Will they chase a Frenchman on Bastille Day to preserve yellow?

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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