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Post-Pyrenean Power Poll!

Le-tour-sm_mediumThis is the maillot jaune edition, naturally. I would say we learned a handful of things from the first major phase of the race. One, the first major phase of the race always has been and always will be overrated (if it's rated at all). The Tour is won in the final week, regardless of what ASO tells us every year starting with the course rollout in December and continuing until, well, the final week of the Tour. Two, the first week of the Tour is a perfectly good time to torpedo your chances, if you aren't lucky or careful or both. Three, while a mix of skills is often relevant to determining the final outcome, "being Alberto Contador" is probably the single most important skill a rider can possess.

Apologies here: we had company all weekend and my ability to really watch these stages was compromised, so please feel free to contradict and fill in blanks as you see fit. Nothing new about that. Anyway, here ya go. Last week's ratings in (parens):

1. (1) Alberto Contador, Astana ↔

Then: "Considering Contador's special power is climbing, it's hard to say right now that the final outcome will ever be in doubt. This Tour could resemble the 1996 edition of Paris-Roubaix, where three Mapei teammates entered the velodrome all by themselves, and the "sprint" for the win was decided by a call to the team car."

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: My take on the Polemica is that Bert is secretly kind of pissed. I mean, what on Earth was wrong with him taking off to Arcalis and putting 20 seconds into everyone? JB & co. are saying evenhanded things about "all working as a team" and "see who's strongest," in order to quell the media storm. But what they should be saying is "this is the best grand tour rider alive," and "he's about to eat your lunch."

Tourbecco's Take: "Highlight of the Tour so far: when Bad Bert told Good Bert to shove it, and he galloped away from the field with ease."

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2. (2) Lance Armstrong, Astana ↔

Then: "My guess is that Lance gets better against the watch, but at some point Contador will climb away on his own. That said, the mere thought of Armstrong taking three years off and slipping right back into yellow is mind-boggling."

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: Before people start jumping to conclusions, he has yet to finish ahead of Bradley Wiggins in a mountain stage. Perhaps that says more about Wiggo (stay tuned), though more likely it says more about those mountains. Point is, until we see Armstrong excel on the Tour's hardest days, we can't honestly say we know where this is headed.

Tourbecco's Take: "For a polished veteran he sure makes some odd PR choices. I mean, since when are black helmets a good image?"

3. (3) Levi Leipheimer, Astana ↔

Then: "Leipheimer has an established history of riding extremely well in the Pyrenees (both sides), and can be counted on to ace the Annency ITT as well. The biggest question mark has to do with his ability to survive the Alps, where he's had trouble, and Mont Ventoux, which he's handled pretty well over the years."

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: Nuzzled up with his teammates so far. The Pyrenees were never going to be his problem. The question for Levi is whether he makes up anything at Mont Ventoux, or Annency, since he's probably going to get shelled at some point in the Alps.

Tourbecco's Take: "Word of warning: reflected light only seems as bright as the source. It's not."

4. (6) Christian VandeVelde, Garmin-Slipstream ↑

Then: "I know Garmin fans will find this ranking a tad low, but hear me out. I am proceeding cautiously with VandeVelde's outlook until the Pyrenees."

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: Well, we don't yet have much info to go on, but Christian made it in on stage 7 with the big names, 21" behind Contador, while a lot of other supposed contenders did not (Kreuziger, Monfort, Kirchen, etc.). So I guess he's on form. He also has an extremely useful teammate in Wiggins actually ahead of him on GC. Many unanswered questions on this team, but it would be nice if they could parlay their current situation into some gratifying results.

Tourbecco's Take: "Is anyone else floored by the prospect of three Americans in the Top Four?"

5. (4) Andy Schleck, Saxo Bank ↓

Then: "Riding competently today hasn't stopped their top rider from digging himself a 1.22 hole to Contador, a truly dangerous game."

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: This Tour is really going to test his nerve. Not only did the first week offer the usual assortment of pitfalls for a younger rider, but now Andy has to sit on that deficit for another eight frustrating days before he can do anything about it. The Pyrenees offered little redemption for anyone in need. That said, Schlecklet hasn't done anything terribly wrong. We fans should be rooting for him to be in prime form next week, we will be desperate for a real mountain battle by then.

Tourbecco's Take: "When you're only 24, the Tour is something that happens to you."

6. (CG) Tony Martin, Columbia-HTC ↑

Then: "Martin is the best-placed here and a strong top-10 contender, except that Monfort is probably more ready for such an effort, and they might all find themselves in service of Rogers."

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: I dunno about Monfort, or anyone else on this team. Rogers, of course, fell and lost big time. Martin, meanwhile, seems buoyed by the white jersey and is sitting in on everyone else. Likely his day of reckoning is only a week off, but given his inexperience nobody can really say for sure.

Tourbecco's Take: "Dude still needs a nickname. The Cottbus Express?"

7. (NR) Bradley Wiggins ↑

Then: [Crickets...]

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: Boy, this is a shocker. Nothing in his recent past suggests he should be climbing around with the big boys. Time trialing? Sure, no problem. But surely the clock strikes midnight sometime shortly after the race enters the Alps, no? Maybe even to Verbier? I will assume I don't know anything about races that haven't happened yet, and score Wiggo appropriately high on the strength of his lying fifth and finishing with the first group Friday. But that's a rather unskeptical take.

Tourbecco's Take: "All due respect... No."

8. (8) Carlos Sastre, Cervelo Test Team ↔

Then: "Also, this year's course is a bit more front-loaded than the last. Sastre can find the 2.44 he's lost already on the slopes of Mont Ventoux, but that's a ray of hope for his podium chances."

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: Er, course front-loaded? Not so much. Apparently I am such an astute observer of cycling that I fell for Le Tour's annual "those first two weeks will be surprisingly important!" ruse. Carlos knows better, though whether he can do anything about his other problems -- the whole Astana thing -- is another matter.

Tourbecco's Take: "If you could team up Sastre's patience with Andy Schleck's legs, you might really be onto something."

9. (9) Cadel Evans, Silence-Lotto ↔

Then: "Of course, subtract the Astana boys and you can imagine Evans picking off most of the guys in front of him over the next 18 days, but that's a pretty stupid hypothetical. Top five is almost surely his best hope now."

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: It's hard to read people's minds, even moreso when relying on the media to help. One article today had Evans pluckily saying it isn't over, another had him admitting that maybe it is. Somehow I don't think the confusion is Evans'. The fact is he rides perfectly well in the Alps, probably won't mind the slow grind of Mont Ventoux, and wouldn't be in such dire straits if his team weren't completely hopeless in the TTT. Same sh%t, different day.

Tourbecco's Take: "One last podium place? Oy! Oy!"

10t. (NR) Rinaldo Nocentini, AG2R ↑

Then: [Crickets]

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: I feel I'd be remiss if I completely left out the maillot jaune, so here's your token Nocentini mention. He has no history of excelling for more than a stage here and there. His time trialing can charitably be called indifferent. It is nice to see AG2R, one of France's less anonymous teams, on the front of the pack, but if anyone scores this as a victory for French cycling, they need to have their head examined. A middlin' Italian stage-hunter gets set up in Yellow while Astana hang back through the flat stages? Enjoy the fun while it lasts, if you call turning your team inside out every day fun.

Tourbecco's Take: "Nice practice for the AG2R boys. Too bad the Tour de l'Avenir uses national teams; this could be good practice for protecting Max Bouet."

10t. (CG) Vincenzo Nibali, Liquigas ↑

Then: "This gruppetto consists of riders who might all be great fun to watch, but have absolutely no track record (yet) of success in the major climbs of the Tour."

Tourbecco_cropped_mediumNow: Best of the unknown young guys so far, and that includes his more heralded teammate Kreuziger, who couldn't hack it in the Pyrenees for some unknown reason. Selecting Nibali here is a bit of a placeholder, as the very different slopes of the Alps might show us another side of both riders and Kreuziger is still a very respectable 2.40, only 46" back of Vinny. But so far Nibali has been very strong, and someone I hope will impress even more as the race goes on.

Tourbecco's Take: "If the Kreuziger - Basso sniping match goes on long enough, Vinny will have to choose between the older Northerner and his Czech classmate. My money's on the latter."

Bridging Up? Vlad Karpets, Luis Leon Sanchez, Mikel Astarloza, Maxime Monfort, Linus Gerdemann

Falling Back: Roman Kreuziger, Mick Rogers, Kim Kirchen, Denis Menchov, Haimar Zubeldia, Laurens Ten Dam, Jurgen Van den Broeck

Peeling off the number:  Robert Gesink, Oscar Pereiro

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love it, absolutely love it....
… while a mix of skills is often relevant to determining the final outcome, “being Alberto Contador” is probably the single most important skill a rider can possess.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jul 13, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it too late to start at 31?

I have that skill.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Jul 14, 2009 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

is your post that I disagree more.

began with the Astana’s podium! Then CVV, he is good, but behind Andy, don’t think so.

But the most:
Nocentini?!! He will loose 2/3 minutes in ITT, more amount of time in Ventoux…etc, only if he will go an another breakaway.
Tony Martin here too!! i don’t think that he knew what the 3 weeks will do it, again, monte ventoux will loose many time. I think even in the stage 17, they will be crush, both.

i don’t see Astarloza, Efimkin, or even Kreuziger/Nibali out from top10.
Wiggins is a big ???

That stage 17th, i think has everything to be exciting, this is the time for tactics skills, and the most dangerous for Astana. Hope for real fight with early attacks from Cadel, Menchov, Sastre..

by semprenaroda on Jul 13, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

sem-

I don’t think Chris is trying to predict the final top 10 here. Just sort of how it stands today after the first rest day.

by ursula on Jul 13, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

the purpose of power polls is two-thirds looking back, one-third forward. Roughly. Basically, if I were to write a poll on my powers of prediction, it would not be pretty. So some props to the guys who have done well so far, but that doesn’t mean they’ll stick around.

I would guess Wiggins will sink hard at some point. VandeVelde, we will see. Martin has been sensational, though he has no proven record in the Alps. Levi might tank on the GRand Bornand stage. Nibali might move up. Kreuziger should, although you have to wonder right now. Astarloza, sure. Efimkin? Less sure.

Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 13, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martin hasn't done anything in the mountains eva

until this year’s TdS. It come as a complete and present surprise that he is suddenly climbing so well. It gives me a ton of hope for the next years that he is Germany’s next GC threat. I don’t expect it, but if he can keep it up for the whole race then that’s some amazing progress. Even if he doesn’t, he has proved he is a guy to reckon with in the very near future.

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

paris-nice

Martin also won the mountain classification of this year’s Paris-Nice.

by rodulus on Jul 13, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parins-Nice Mountain Classification is more like the "hills classification"

he won it because he got into a winning break on a stage were there were many mountain points available, then held onto it. But he wasn’t anywhere to be seen on the bigger climbs on the more crucial stages(6,7,8)

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry then

you usually do that, i thougt this was another…

by semprenaroda on Jul 14, 2009 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cleaning the coffee off my computer monitor:

“When you’re only 24, the Tour is something that happens to you.”

"The road is our agony, but also our daily bread; and at night, when it is deserted and the moon glistens on the asphalt, the ridiculous dreams of racers like us pass up and down it."

--Dino Buzzati

by nrs5000 on Jul 13, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

ask conta about his tdf experience at 24...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jul 13, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes but

see “being Alberto Contador,” above.

"The road is our agony, but also our daily bread; and at night, when it is deserted and the moon glistens on the asphalt, the ridiculous dreams of racers like us pass up and down it."

--Dino Buzzati

by nrs5000 on Jul 13, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ASO organizers are dumb, don't they understand....

that you don’t fuck with Santa if you know what’s good for you?

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree--that Tour definitely happened to him.

Courtesy of the good folks at Rabobank.

Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine

by majope on Jul 13, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

And he then took advantage of it. He was in 8th place after the Alps that year, moving into 2nd before Chicken was tossed. He made his own luck there.

by ursula on Jul 13, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't wait

until we get to see Gangsta Conta pull out his gat and pop a cap in someone’s ass. No tour would be complete without it.

"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!

by jsallee00 on Jul 13, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Rinaldo might be keeping the Yellow Jersey warm...

but the son of a gun is earning me VDS points!

Racing for Victory and Free Beer!

by DemonCats on Jul 13, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing I'm curious about is...

For those who think Contador will likely/probably/surely win it (I’m in the “likely” camp)… will he beat Armstrong because…

a) Armstrong can’t return to his past form
or
b) Contador is better than Armstrong’s old form
or
c) both?

I’m leaning towards b).

by tgartner on Jul 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I lean towards a

I haven’t seen anything that convinces me that Lance is where he was a few years ago. Yeah, starting early in Monaco might have cost him some seconds, but the old Lance would surely have done better than he did even allowing for the early start. And, while he’s looked fine in the mountains thus far, as Chris points out, he’s done exactly as well as Wiggo. That’s true of all the other GC contenders (other than AC), of course, but until I see it, I don’t believe Lance will outclimb AC. Could he? Maybe. Do I think he will? No.

by Le Comte on Jul 13, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he also was a bit conservative in the early ...

… part of Monaco, which AFAIR is not what his time trials where known for.

Contador at present is better in the Pyrenees than Lance was in the Pyrenees. I suspect he will be as good in the Alps as Lance was in his best form, but maybe not. Time will tell.

by BruceMcF on Jul 14, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

By b) do you mean better than Lance in 1999-2005

or better than Lance in his old age wise form?

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess I was thinking 2005

I kind of forget which of his Tours was the strongest.

by tgartner on Jul 13, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok so Lance in his prime

well I don’t think AC is there yet, I think he will get there one day but not quite yet. Although I think he has better competition than Lance did, so maybe the gaps won’t be 6-7 minutes at the end.

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe ...

on the “better competition now” thing. You aren’t alone in that opinion, and I’ve read a lot of varying opinions on that subject.

My conclusive opinion is that competition was just as strong from 1999-2005 as it is now. It is easy to get caught up in the “current stars”, and to look at the winning margins that Lance won buy and simply discount them as “lack of competition”. I don’t buy that for one minute. The guy was simply dominant, and just as importantly his team was dominant… the combination simply resulted in very large GC margins of victory.

Hell, the biggest argument for the competition being just as good (maybe even better) from 1999-2005 is if LA ends up on the podium at all after 4 years away and being almost 38 years old. There is a long ways to go for anyone to think about a podium spot, but if Lance makes the podium at his age and after that long of a break, that doesn’t bode well for the “competition is better now” argument.

I’m just sayin’! ;-)

by IowaAC on Jul 13, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not taking away from his dominance, he still would have won with better comp.

I’m talking more specifically in these future years. I think cycling has this amazing talent pool of guys who are around the same age and incredibly talented. Guys like Andy Schleck, Kreuziger, Gesink, maybe guys like Uran and Tony Martin. These guys are super talents and they will be great. These are the guys Bert will have to beat in the near future.

Vamos Alberto!!!(Contador not Ricco)

by Phil H. on Jul 13, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Totally agree with that

I do feel that there are a lot more top riders now, and the field and talent is deeper now. I just don’t feel that the top 2-3 guys that Lance had to beat were any less of riders than who the top riders have to beat today. Ullrich, Beloki, Botero, Hamiltion, Virenque, et al, weren’t slouches.

The good news is that the future looks VERY bright for cycling, and as a true fan of the sport at all levels, that greatly pleases me. I love seeing all of the young talent coming up.

Oh, and by the way, just so people don’t think I’m a Texas flag-waving Lance nut fan, I’m not. I have great respect for what he has accomplished on many levels…

Vande Velde is actually my favorite rider, and I’m crossing my fingers that he has been riding into better shape this first week, and may make a move in the Alps.

by IowaAC on Jul 13, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

the scourge of doping is that we have no idea who the great young studs of the last generation were. Ullrich seems like a natural, but even there, how do you know?

Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 14, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

a) most definitely

Bert is phenomenal, no doubt, but he hasn’t anything in the vicinity of enough for anyone to say he is better than a 7-time winner in his best form. I’d take 2001 LA any day over today’s Bert… Conta has the potential to be considered a great one some day, but he still has a TON to learn and even more to accomplish to be even mentioned in the same breath as the GT greats in history.

by IowaAC on Jul 13, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know...

GT wins
Berto = 3
Lance = 7

Lance hadnt won any by age 26 (Berto’s age). Berto’s won the big three and races a fairly full schedule where Lance raced a month a year. Berto also hasn’t had the teams that Lance had either. I cant wait to see Berto on a Spanish team with full support. Lance was/is the greatest Tour rider, but I dont see how you call him one of the greatest GT riders when all he rode was the tour.

back 2 back @ Vuelta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3M0FWH8Ak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmCBAI2aHDg

by Cycho on Jul 13, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Bert...races a fairly full schedule where Lance raced a month a year"

Bert 2009: Algarve, Paris-Nice, Castilla y Leon, Pais Vasco, Dauphine, Tour
Lance 2004: Algarve, Murcia, Criterium International, Georgia, Langedoc-Rousillon, Dauphine, Tour

Okay, 2004 was a little heavier on stage races than usual, but Armstrong always did at least 2-3 of those and frequently a handful of classics while warming up for the Tour. Both he and Contador focus on the Tour—Contador was explicit coming into this year that it’s the only race he cares about—and their pre-Tour schedules don’t look very different.

I agree that it will be interesting to see Contador on a Spanish team, where I suspect he won’t do as well as he has with Bruyneel.

Among his many talents, Mark Cavendish can make it rain in Southern California--Chris Jones, ESPN Magazine

by majope on Jul 14, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is a difference between riding in a race and racing

Lance did the first , Bert does the second.

So

“Bert…races a fairly full schedule where Lance raced a month a year”
is 100% accurate in my opinion.

by Jens on Jul 14, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Berto hasn't had the teams Lance had?

Berto was on Team Discovery for his TourdF win – the most powerful team in that year’s Tour; Big George, Egoi Martinez, Yaroslav Popovych … not exactly a weak team. Astana is the strongest team I’ve ever seen. Not sure your comment is really accurate. Once AC is on a European team my thought is he is going to be more on his own – many of the Euro teams seem more disjointed and less singularly focused than the US teams (old Telcom was definetely an exception). No rider is strong enough to go it alone and be a GC contender over the long haul.

Regards, CJTri

by CJTri on Jul 15, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel...

that Contador still has alot to learn. His move the other day showed he was unsure of himself. A truly confident Contador would have attacked from the base, caught the break-away, and fired that lame pistol victory salute as he took the stage. That would have been a page straight out of Lance’s book. Instead he takes meager seconds near the finish.

by Huntero on Jul 13, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll have to disagree.

Attacking at the base of a wind-swept climb, without the benefit of super steep sections, would not have been a wise move for Alberto. He did exactly what he could have, given the conditions. I don’t care if your name is Merckx, Coppi, or Hinault, an all out effort from the bottom of the climb, with all that swirling wind, would have been wasted energy; the group would have slowly reeled anyone back. Bert played it right on that day and took what time he could.

by The Team Chef on Jul 13, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have to agree there

Personally I think he only attacked at the end because he was bored out his mind and the thought of waiting another week and a half for another decent chance was killing him.

by Rothko on Jul 13, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great commentary Chris

I like the idea of combining Andy’s legs with Sastre’s patience. Sastre certainly is a seasoned veteran.

The black helmet… remember that the black helmet threw the emperor to his death in the end and was thus released from the grip of the darkside.

Poor Levi gets no respect, he may get dropped at some point in the Alps but I don’t think he’ll get knocked off the podium.

by sminer on Jul 13, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope "Cottbus Express"

was a Totoro reference – if so well done on that score. I think it’s hard to read too much in the mountains so far. On Arcalis they were pushing into a headwind for much of it which has the effect of slowing the pace down (effectively reducing the gradient relative to no wind) so you end up with big TT riders like Karpets arriving in that main group of contenders front group. On the other hand if you are unhitched it is very difficult to rejoin and you can lose a heap of time . . . .

by Rothko on Jul 13, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I once spend hours in Akihabara

looking for a Totoro action figure set.

I have nothing else to add.

by Sui Juris on Jul 13, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOLD PREDICTIONS

Playing off of Chris’s excellent Power Poll analysis, how about we have some fun with specific predictions? We are faced with 5 days of getting to watch AGR2 beat their brains out pacing things, which could be fun to watch, especially if some tricky winds pop up, but the real race starts in Stage 15.

My bold predictions go something like:

Stage 15: Doesn’t look too daunting on the surface, but a mountaintop finish somewhat similar to Arcalis makes it interesting at least. My prediction (and I’m not going out on much of a limb here) is that we see an Astana power demonstration similar to Stage 7. Astana will push the day hard and try to rubber-leg some wannabe GC guys on Cat 2 and 3 climbs, followed by a team diesel blast to the base of Verbier. This will be the anticipated showdown between the top contenders, and may be where LA launches his attack. If so, that will be ill-fated, as that climb suits Bert to a tee. The Astana goal on this day will be to take the yellow jersey and try to put some time into contenders who might falter or have a bad day.

Stage 16: What a waste of two perfectly good mountains…. both are LONG but not very steep, so this one is hard to predict. Likely Astana protecting the yellow, and if they get lucky, maybe split the peleton and get a gift of some time on some rivals. Unlikely given the day, especially with a 21km downhill finish to chase.

Stage 17: Could be some fireworks here, as contenders need to make a move, and crashes are a huge risk with all of the fast pack downhills. Romme and Colombiere are actually very steep, short climbs, and attacks will be frequent. If LA and/or AC didn’t put any/much time on the contenders on Verbier, those two climbs could be fun to watch, as this is where they will try to put some distance before the TT.

Stage 18: I am obviously one of the few here that think LA stands a chance of pacing Bert on this day, but I’ve said it and I’ll stick with that prediction. I think we will obviously see some massive TT efforts here, and I seriously think Bert and LA will only be separated by single digits on this day, setting up….

Stage 20: Contador will almost certainly be wearing yellow, but by how much? If there are dangerous contenders lurking within striking distance (like Martin, Vande Velde, Schleck), that would not bode well for LA’s chances. The yellow would have to be defended. If, by chance, both AC has 1:30 to 2:00 on the other contenders, there could be fireworks on Mt. Baldy.

In summary, the race is there for Bert to win or lose. If he races to form, there isn’t much else anyone will be able to do about it. LA would have to find his old form AND have some cards fall into place. Levi will kill himself for the team, as always. Martin is a wildcard, but one has to think he might blow up somewhere beneath a Contador assault. Vande Velde (my man) might be the most serious non-Astana threat, but does he have enough support horses? He has a strong teammate in Wiggins (who knew?) and he has the form to pound Ventoux if his conditioning continues to recover. Sastre is built for Ventoux, but he’ll get slaughtered in the TT and the TT and ITT already put him in too big of a hole, but I do feel he is still a podium threat. Schleck? He is hungry and could surprise… maybe this is his coming out party… he doesn’t lack confidence, that is for sure!

Final Podium?

1. Contador
2. Armstrong
3. Vande Velde

OK, I did say they were bold predictions, but a boy CAN dream, right?

by IowaAC on Jul 14, 2009 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

imo AndyS and TMartin (and even Sastre) ahead of VdV and LL

Overall excellent predictions though, especially wrt the realization that AC belongs in a separate page

by agostinho on Jul 14, 2009 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

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A frozen 'cross ride from this last weekend. As you may be aware we have had siberian conditions here in the UK with a low of -14 degrees centigrade here on saturday morning. It was a beautiful sunny morning so i layered up and set off for a snowy 'cross ride along a roman road. I checked the thermometer when i got back to find it had been -10 throughout the ride! I had a lot of fun though and the views were spectacular.
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