If this were another anti-Lance thread you might dive right in, but just because somebody makes some rediculous/unsubstantiated claims is no reason to be so dismissive. It’s not like other’s don’t make comments or posts that are totally argumentative.

and thse people will be claiming he did it on purpose not to embarrass riders 60 years younger, cause he could have won. They will never believe that as time goes on, and as he gets older, he won’t be as good as he once was and he won’t win it because he can’t. Instead of being happy and amazed he can still finish 3rd after 4 years off, at age 37.

Contador is the best stage racer in the world, by a distance that is frankly embarrassing. And he is still on the upswing. Schlecklet is the only guy who is even close, and unless he learns to time trial (and realises that occassionally he may need to blow his brother up) he will always be in the position that all AC has to do is cover.

Armstrong may get back his time trial legs, but I can’t see him climbing with either of the top two if they decide to go after him.

Plus, of course, anno domini. You get old fast in top level sport – which is why his 3rd this year is hugely impressive, but gives no confidence for future years. And AC / Schlecky are both still on the upswing…

Best guess is that – after a great and impressive ride this year – he simply embarasses himself next year, when depending on who he brings along, he may not even be the strongest rider in his own team.

The poster didn’t attack anyone’s mother. You can dispute the allegations — #2 seems like a joke — but don’t go after the writer personally.

IMHO, Lance will never win again, but it’s not beyond comprehension. Also, surely he’ll be a little better next year; he looked like crapola in the Pyrenees but much better later on. Still, the chances of something happening to derail Contador are much less than something derailing Lance (at 38). And Contador is hands-down stronger.

the twins that were born on Tuesday!!!

wow