Tour de France Stage 1: Post-Stage Thread
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 4, 2009 1:32 PM EDT
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Another Grand Depart. And the ten trillion comments speak well of the enthusiasm around here. Not much to say about the race itself, being a short time trial and all. It was a bit technical, which affected a few guys pretty severely, but the rain held off, and in the end the leaderboard looks a lot like what you'd expect of a time trial:
- Fabian Cancellara, Saxo Bank
- Alberto Contador, Astana, at 0.18
- Brad Wiggins, Garmin, at 0.19
- Andreas Kloden, Astana, at 0.22
- Cadel Evans, Silence-Lotto, at 0.23
- Levi Leipheimer, Astana, at 0.30
- Roman Kreuziger, Liquigas, at 0.32
- Tony Martin, Columbia, at 0.33
- Vincenzo Nibali, Liquigas, at 0.37
- Lance Armstrong, Astana, at 0.40
Obviously that's your GC as well. Chat away!
[updated] Good catch in the comments: the two biggest losers today were Kim Kirchen (1.57 down) and Denis Menchov (@ 1.31). Neither of them should have had trouble with this course, so it begs a little sleuthing as to why they were so bad. Menchov's press people are saying he just had a bad day, after a month of no racing, which sounds plausible. As for Kirchen, I am not seeing anything yet. This is a pretty abnormal result, though he's had a pretty abnormal year.
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LA's new excuse:
There’s so many guys ahead of me, I got confused about who I’m supposed to be supporting.
nope
garuda managed to get two posts in before you somehow
Totally. Reality... so overrated. :-)
I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!
So how do VDS points work?
Is there a thread some where on that, that I figure out my own VDS points?
Since you ask...
Stage placings (top 5):
1. Fabian Cancellara 80
2. Alberto Contador 50
3. Bradley Wiggins 35
4. Andreas Kloden 20
5. Cadel Evans 10
Jersey points:
Yellow: Cancellara 20
Green: Cancellara 10
Polkadots: Contador 10
White: Roman Kreuziger 10
I can't understand why people cheat--Mark Cavendish
wow
I managed a rare zero!
Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 4, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Shut the fuck up Donny
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
White jersey
Kreuz
T Martin
Nibali
I’m looking forward to this comp
"Never swing a small stick. " Andy Hampsten
4th on team and pretty far behind Bert
he wants to be leader he better hope for great climbing legs because that’s Bert territory.
Vamos Alberto!!!
I don't think he honestly thinks he'll win the tour
but he ran a great effin race today. 37, out 4 years, recovering from injury, and in the top 10, against the royalty of the sport mainly. Wow.
Devolder
2:03 down, 5 sec worse than Boonen. Didn’t someone say he’d be top 10?
"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!
I'm an idiot?
Yeah- I;ll stick with that excuse!
On the other hand I sure nailed the Grabsch effort.
See, the problem now...
… is that it’s 3:30am. and I’m so pumped with adrenaline I’m gonna have trouble sleeping!
Christ, look at those quads…
Do they all have that?
I didn’t notice it on the others and think it’s the way Saxo have figured out how to acknowledge Cance’s gold at the Olympics – it you notice the colour they use is gold.
Aahhh think the reason I didn't notice it on the others is that the colour doesn't stand out so much...
…in the blue that I think it is on the other jerseys.
But yeah, it looks great :)
Cance green and yellow, Contador polkadots, Kreuziger white.
I can't understand why people cheat--Mark Cavendish
Veloclub?
Or whatever it’s called now. Has anyone not in France found a stream? Any pointers appreciated.
only caught the last hour,
but most of my fears about Versus being Lance-centric to the point of ruining things for me were off. How could I doubt Phil? Sorry, Phil.
God, Cance is a beautiful creature.
Ah.
My fear was that it was going to be ALL Lance, all the time—everyone compared to him even when he’s not racing, etc. When I flipped the tv on, they didn’t even mention him for ten minutes. Good timing, perhaps.
Boonen
I thought he was racing? If he did, am I to assume that VS completely boycotted his ride? Perhaps his image “disgraced the purity of ASO and their virgin-esqe event”?
They showed Benna starting on ITV4, and Boonen.
Not for long enough though in either case….!
Adrenalina Italiana!
Ok , so Cance won
but he would never had a chance if Schumacher hadn’t been robbed of his chance to ride.
Thanks, Jens
Nearly choked on a mouthful of water there
hahhahahah!
yeah, and somebody must have tampered with Mick Rogers’ bike for him to not have dominated
He Tweeted:
http://twitter.com/mickrogers/status/2471461836
No luck today, dropped my chain 2 times. Had to stop and put it back on. Lost a good chunk of time. That’s life. Things can only get better.
Michael or Ralf?
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Jul 4, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm back! And super smiley :D
So happy for Cancellara! And Contador, loved their little man-loving. Contador looks good in polka dots, no?
Surely LA will get that Conti, Klodi and LL are better than him
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
to the Lance will get this part
Vamos Alberto!!!
It was included more as a sarcastic thing
But the dude has to be an idiot if he thinks he shouldn’t work for any of the three!
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Love the Polka Dot Podium Girls!
Bike racing is a chess game fought by mountain climbing boxers on two wheels. ~ Bob Roll
Jinx you owe me a coke Zoe
Bike racing is a chess game fought by mountain climbing boxers on two wheels. ~ Bob Roll
64th +1.36
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Jul 4, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Gesink ahead of Menchov
Who is leader of Rabobank?
(Maybe jumping the gun here, but who cares)
I hope Menchov recovers
or else none of the big Tour threats will race the Giro to win again.
Vamos Alberto!!!
I wonder if maybe Menchov isn't sick or something
I didn’t expect him to win, but I expected him to do better than 30" behind Andy Schleck. The more I think about this the more it boggles my mind…
Let's all breakdown!
Rabobank utterly and hugely disappointed today. Gesink as number 31, Clement number 46, Menchov number 53 and Posthuma number 97. This contrasts to their omnipotent Dauphiné-ITT-performance. (Rest of this discussion is not fit for a race-thread, I think.)
that's the problem
I wouldn’t have minded seeing Menchov do well but he’s essentially eliminated himself on day 1, no matter what kind of form he gets into in week 3.
Isn't Menchov required to have a rotten day at le Tour?
Just like his second Grand Tour is better than the year’s first one…
But, eww, this year could be sloppy seconds.
Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.
Aww, I guess I had too many hatertots today, silly me
I don’t hate him I hate Versus’s coverage of him.
Vamos Alberto!!!
Wouldn't want to be 5th fastest Astana rider today
You only need 5 to finish for the TTT right?
Imagine being the guy who has to hang on to the wheels of Contador, Kloden, Leipheimer and Armstrong !?!
Ouch.
I know, I know, they’ll probably want to keep the entire team together until the end, but if they decided to light the afterburners and go for it…..
"Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill" - Fausto Coppi
paulinho 35 back of LA, zubeldia 51 back from LA
not too bad for both to hang on then, but boy did popo sandbag that or what 1:20 back from LA
I hope so.
He did well in Catalunya and looked good at the Dolphin. Maybe a new challenge with Astana will do him good.
Adrenalina Italiana!
Boonen
They briefly showed Benna in the starthouse, but did anyone see Tom B? Not even a mention of him while Cav was on stealing lots of camera time for an otherwise insulting ride. How do you talk about Cav’s stage sprint victory potential w/o even mentioning Boonen? I smell a media snubbing in the works.
the french tv2 feed had him on quite a bit
QS stated he may not make time cut due to bad stomach this AM – didn’t fair too bad. Poor AD.
'night all
4am = quittin’ time!
Thanks for a delightful evening :-)
maybe VS doesn't know Boonen is riding
Bobke and Craig just ignored his possibilities for tomorrow
Kirsten
Boom-boom
I hope he takes a stage early on, just so that VS is forced to address him beating the coke-rap TdF snubb attempt. I still can’t believe he got it overturned, but I’m stoked nonetheless
It sickens me a little
to see two ex-pros (roll and sherwin) and the grand master of cycling commentary (phil) be so subservient to that jackass Craig Hummer. It’s like they are all afraid of him and his network pull.
Network pull? What, is he married to an executive?
Never heard of him before last year’s Tour coverage.
I can't understand why people cheat--Mark Cavendish
anchorman
At the beginning of last years tour, he still thought a field sprint was part of the decathalon. How else do you explain his lead commentary, if not in bed with network honchos?
I've mentioned this before
so my apologies to those who may be sick of hearing it, but …. I really lost it for Hummer last year when he insulted the sport as a whole by condescendingly speculating as to the chances a pro-cyclist would have in “the octagon” against an MMA contender. Poor Bobke, forced to sit silently while that idiot went on. I still maintain that Hummer was probably beat up regularly as a kid with a name like that – he’s got issues.
I read the article
so he was 5’6", 135 lbs – I wonder what his chances would be in the octagon? Maybe he’ll be as big in Germany as David Hasselhoff
grand master of cycling commentary?
he is a nice man but well beyond his prime.
why do you think he has been all but banished to the cycling commentary backwater of the US?
Wiggins interviewed on ITV by Chris Boardman & Gary Imlach...
… did everything he could, perhaps could have gone a bit faster downhill but team said not, training hard, feels physically capable of top 15 overall etc. etc.
Says he wasn’t listening to anything from the team, didn’t even know who was in the car behind him etc.
sorry, I can't listen & type (god knows how people listen, type & translate...)
think what he meant was that he thought that afterwards, but the team reassured him otherwise…
Civetta
British ES showing British Championships road race now if you have it – turn over.
Cavendish - "le Mozart du onze-dents" (the Mozart of the 11-tooth sprocket) – L’Equipe
Dear Lance Haters:
You all claim to detest him, but:
[a] you listen to every single second of what is broadcast about him
[b] you watch every single move he makes
© you comment on him here endlessly
You can’t seem to ignore him or stop talking about him, other than a few side comments on dress bows or a man-crush for some other rider. If you can’t stand him so much, then stop talking about him! Obsess much?
Versus’ coverage of him is no more “Lance-centric” than an American station covering Americans during the Olympics – another multi-national competition. Versus knows their audience is largely Americans. Liggett is one of the best play-by-play or color men in all of sport, is a walking encyclopedia, and is very fair in his coverage of all the athletes.
Love Lance or hate him, you cannot argue that he brings enormous numbers of fans to view the sport you love, both in person and through increased TV ratings. He is the Tiger Woods of cycling.
And if you can’t embrace the notoriety he brings to the sport, then the TDF will continue to languish outside your Euro-centric world, at 5:30 AM, on an unknown cable channel whose next best program is goat roping.
by Paris of Troy on Jul 4, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hold on I got something in the oven
http://baconsyrup.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/hater_tots.jpg
Vamos Alberto!!!
Ligget
While I enjoy listening to him, it’s really 50/50 as to whether or not he’s right. His passion his great, as is his knowledge. But his ability to match that knowledge to what he’s seeing is a bit, well, lacking. As was pointed out several times during the live threads.
He’s a great guy to have on a broadcast, but saying he’s one of the best play by play guys in all of sport is a bit of a reach.
"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!
Hmm . . .
a play by play guy who can’t identify the players correctly and consistently mis-calls the strategy unfolding before his screen can’t really be called a ‘good’ play-by-lay guy, now can he?
I nearly threw something at the screen when they confused contador and cancellara, amongst other inanities (was riding this am and only saw replays.)
Why dont you just ignore the comments then?
“[a] you listen to every single second of what is broadcast about him
[b] you watch every single move he makes
© you comment on him here endlessly”
Exactly, we comment/complain endlessly about how all the broadcasts are about Lance and how all the news follows Lance’s every move. Kinda hard to avoid Lance in the news/tv these days. Are you suggesting we give up and take up a new sport?
I'd rather stick discussions of coverage in a separate
“coverage” and/or “how much was said about Lance” thread, and have the main post-race thread to talk about…y’know…the race. How the riders rode. It doesn’t make sense to skip every post about L.A. because some of it is legitimately about his ride, or Astana strategy. Note that I’m not telling anyone what they should and should not post (here or in general). I’d rather take it as a given that there will be excess coverage of Lance relative to what he does on any particular stage, but that’s why I come here—for actual race talk. Talk that includes Lance if and when he is relevant to the race. They mentioned a 39 year old…how’d he do? And they mentioned that Hincapie “only” needs two more years to match Zoetemelk’s record for number of tours ridden. So if he rides the tour until he’s 39, he’ll beat Zoetemelk for that record. That’d be cool, yeah?
My guess is that most of the all-Lance-all the-time-frustration was vented on stage 1
It has been expected and when Vesus and others lived up to the expectations we went apeshit and let the snark fly. The same thing happened at the Giro on a smaller scale. It will go away on it it’s own.
Good morning Jens :-)
I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!
Sadly, can't sleep. :-(
I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!
Bummer
Go look up one of Ursulas 5 page statistical analysises on why Levi is a sure thing to win the Giro. That will knock you right out.
LOL! That should do it!
Just picked up a book again that I had started a while back (The Power of One). Great book but reading should help. Morning will be coming quickly I am sure. See you in the live thread in a few hours. :-)
I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!
I'm no Lance hater nor fan and rarely mention him
But please don’t twist and spin things out of proportions.
[a] they got not alternative because if they want to watch TdF they are forcefeed by the commentators with Lance propaganda even when he isn’t riding.
[b] because the press spew out more articles about Lance doing nothing than articles about riders winning races.
© not true, Chris wouldn’t stand for that kind of atmosphere on his Café.
And in Phil’s case it would be down right silly to ignore Armstrong’s suggestions about taking the leadership away from the rider he is a fan of.
Especially when Lance obviously doesn’t have what it takes(if only he did :( I’m a Saxo fan).
Yes it’s true that Lance bring many Armerican fans, but it’s the same which left the sport when the American riders quit winning, meaning they’ll do the same again. It’s a short lived party but luckily it fell at a hard time(financially speaking).
The Lance joining the party is fine and the new guest he brought are welcome as long as there’s space for the other guest who listen to different music and might even drink a different brand.
Total bullshit!
VS second best program is bass fishing! Goat roping is third or maybe even fourth…
More Muur...
no comments about the schlecks? How about CVV? Not a bad ride really.
Had to scroll down aways to find FS.
I can't say for sure but it seems that Andy had a good ride, much improved?
But seeing what some of the GC guys ahead of him did, especially those Astana boys, he and others have more than their work cut out for them.
CVV and Andy kept themselves in it, which is what they were supposed to do
The only thing this prologue may tell us, truly, is who might have taken themselves out. Even there, I think there’s been very little of that from anyone truly in it in the first place. End result, race on, and its got lots of contenders. This is going to be a a FUN few weeks.
to read PdC
you would think Lance rode like a sack of potatos and Andy was dacing on the pedals. Are we looking at the same results? I find Lance entertaining, while not likely to win, but I’m celebrating a holiday today so maybe that has something to with it. And am I actually reading there are Phil and Paul haters? Oh, when you hate on a jersey/kit list a few you like so I can get some idea what I should be looking for in a proper kit… other than dark shorts because I get that.
Nice rides by Cance and Bert.
Just goes to show you
that everything is hated by someone. I, for example, hate people who hate things… which means that I hate myself, or something like that
More Muur...
My comment didn't have anything to do with lance.
I just think if CVV didn’t have his wreck he would have been top 10.
I don't know
If I should link to this song or not. Since it’s nsfw I probably better not.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Jul 4, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I for one can't thank you enough for that song.
When I pass it along I will let all know where it was passed on to me from, the PdC.
Those aren't good Schleck representations; they're not skinny enough.
Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.
The reason this stage can't be about the breakaway artists:
Time gaps not big enough for it to be allowed to happen.
gotta start somewhere.
Build it up a bit at a time, without risking the broom wagon, and give yourself a chance to jump in an early stage. Or, heck, maybe there was a mechanical we didn’t see, or maybe he also slid in that freaky turn.
(There was something white on the ground there; I wondered about synthetic grease.)
Sorry, I misposted this.
Should have been in preview thread. It makes sense if its about stage 2
I guess Wiggins is in green since
Cance is in yellow and Bert in pokey-dots. He just tweeted this:
Millar just took a pic of me in Green and sent it to Cav…. Just for giggles though
Anyone else believe that Tony gets his eyebrows done?
Just saying this since he probably has his five o’clock shadow by eleven and Frau Spartacus is a stylist (just like Ballan’s wife).
Mon coeur appartient à les forçats de la route.
There are more important things going on today...as in this
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4306015
Vamos Alberto!!!
Kirchen
has anyone heard why he laid down such a stinker? I can’t find anything.
Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 4, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions
really?
That’s not an easy job to get. He’d be about sixth in line.
Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 4, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, he still has to..umm...earn those honors
for now he’ll just have to help Grabsch and T-Mart drilling it on the flats.
Vamos Alberto!!!
so, sorry, but more lance stuff
Went over to monaco to watch today’s racing. Got on the train – stood next to an american going on about lance. Get to Monaco and see some riders going by on practice runs. Then one goes by and big applause – it’s lance (this didn’t happen for anyone else). Walk around and people selling the yellow livestrong bands everywhere. Take a seat in the stands and watch the big telly before the race – long thing on lance – in fact looked like a lance infomercial. Then more lance coverage and interviews. Then some coverage on the situation with contador and who’s that guy? Oh yeah, lance. Lance comes through to the finish from his training run – huge applause. Guy next to me comes to life, desperately trying to get a photo – totally thrilled about lance. Race starts and they show lance from the moment he got off his trainer to the end of his tt. I mean really – all the while behind the scenes and while he was waiting and the whole thing (was this the real reason for his early start? so that the camera could be on him and him only the entire time?). Huge applause when he starts. Enormous applause when he finishes. More interviews.
Meet a young german budding tennis player later and turns out she’s a lefty – i say oh she must be a big fan of nadal – mom tells me, no – her hero is lance armstong! She is crazy about lance armstrong.
Anyway, had a good time. My impressions from the grande departe: Those dudes are really really fast on the bikes. Lance is the star of the show. Both the media and the grand public are focused on lance. He is the star, he is the hero. Right or wrong, for good or bad, that’s the way it is.
Thanks for thisw
I need to do a bigger Lance post, later today…
Your power is turning our darkness to dawn,
Roll on Columbia, Roll on!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 4, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm can't wait until tomorrow?
as mentioned before there has been a lot of talk of Lance today already, mostly snarky and some actually informative, but fan or not I think most people don’t want to talk anymore about Lance today.
Vamos Alberto!!!
the MOST interesting Armstrong detail
i noted was that he was riding zipp bars instead of bontrager.
I should probably go scope out other Astana photos to see if this is a team abandonment of bontrager, or just Mr. Armstrong.
bert the accountant
(and I might just have to try to photoshop a Bert w/a green visor image together to go with miner’s elpmo) still on bontragers . . .
Another big looser...
Luis Leon Sanchez and really the whole CdE team. LL finished 89th almost 2 minutes back and their top guy was well over a minute back.
Vamos Alberto!!!
NY Times reporter said there were fewer than she expected
but she also mentioned that the train to Monte Carlo from Nice was packed, so maybe they were somewhere else along the course.
the crowds looked thin on the course overall
to me, but i’m guessing it’s the Monaco thing. Not easy to get to, and expensive. I’d expect to see the usual crowds as the stages go on.
one thing is in the final k
there were the big stands, where you could watch the riders come in and the big screen too. So that’s where most people were – in the stands. I was in front of a big screen at the 300 meter mark.
Between 1k and 300 meters the access was not that great or easy.
And yes, the trains were jam-packed – sorta had to make your space to get on.
Kirchen presumably not looking for the yellow
being down here helps him for stage wins and doesn’t hurt him for the green, either (there are not a lot of ‘green’ points on TT’s, and they don’t go deep, either). This way he’s fresh for the next couple of days, when there are piles of points.
How about big surprisers/gainers today?
We’ve mentioned several disappointers/losers today, but what about those that most impressed you.
Biggest surpriser for me today was Kloden. This guy has looked to me this year like he was riding around with his brakes on, washed up and a shadow of his former self. Then he comes out and does this. I did not see Contador coming in 2nd and so close to Cance, wow. Cance, who didn’t see that coming, beauty and the beast rolled up in one.
Wiggins set himself up to possibly get yellow after the TTT, good ride
real nice ride from Kreuz as well. Gesink may have won team leadership because Menchov may not be on the form he needs to be. Also, Evans is on track to get usual 2nd….
Vamos Alberto!!!
It is idiotic that they have Save Ferris as team leader
when Kreuz has a real podium chance on this course.
Vamos Alberto!!!
Yeah
But you got to think that Jen Gray won’t contest the leadership. Plus he’ll be an asset in the mountains.
didn't he say he thinks he can get onto the podium?
unless he was implying Kreuz will be ahead of him on that podium I would say he has some pretty big illusions ambitions.
Vamos Alberto!!!
I wouldn't have picked Klöden in the top ten
I thought A Schleck did better than I expected. But Tony was a sight to behold. Certainly not surprising, but a pleasure to watch.
"I get paid to hurt other people. How good is that? How good is that?
I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, that's good." Jens!
Yeah Andy kept his losses down.
Now he just needs his team to keep him close to Astana and Liquigas in the TTT.
Kloden
You are right sminer, Klodi did himself proud today. But I do have a slight disagreement about his form this year. After al he has:
- placed 3rd on the 33km Algarve ITT behind Contador and Chavanel
-Won the 30km Tirreno-Adriatico ITT
- 2nd on the 6km Sarthe ITT by one second
- won the 16km Trentino ITT
- 6th in the 2.7km Luxembourg prologue
- 3rd on the 7.8km Suisse prologue
- 9th on the 39km ending Suisse ITT
That’s not bad really.
But I do agree that otherwise he hasn’t looked very sharp. He couldn’t climb in T-A or Trentino, let Frank Schleck edge him out in Luxembourg. So I’m not sure how well he’ll do in the mountains, but we’ll see. maybe he’s been holding back.
Letting Schleck get him in Luxembourg was to make sure the infamous Luxembourg mafia doesn't go after him
Vamos Alberto!!!
Yep
Nasty those Luxembourgers. Liable to cut your mum as soon as give you the time of day. No wonder their country exists. No one wants to mess with them.
Next year. lad.
Next year there will finally Be THREE Grand Tours.
California, France, Spain.
But I’ve been thinkin’. Maybe Italy should move it’s race to February. Drum up more interest that way.
Yeah, I'm getting pretty sick of those Dolomite things
just wait tll Coors Classic comes back, they can move it to April and push the Flandarian race to March or something…..is that how Chris’s worst nightmare would go?(mine as well)
Vamos Alberto!!!
I dunno
how idiotic would it be if they had cobblestone’s on those “hills”, talk about lame racing…
Vamos Alberto!!!
I knew I would bring the stats out on Kloden with my comment.
I knew he had done some good results, and I was thinking in hindsight that he must have just been building his form for the tour. So the results he’s had aren’t that bad and they do sort of indicate that he was building. Hope his climbing is better here as well.
Actually I'm pretty sure Frank had a magnet on his bike
have to let the home boy win.
Vamos Alberto!!!
Well damn...
The only down-side to Tony’s bludgeoning of the field … we don’t get to see Robbie McEwen eat his own pants. And which pants he intended to eat will remain a mystery.
I'm just recovering from taking two nanograms of cocaine...
…and no…It didn’t improve my performance today! I literally pissed myself when The Right Honourable Mr. Liggett explained (while justifying his inclusion in the tour) that the amount Tommeke had used was very small….yup yup yup!!!
errrr....am i supposed to sign this??
real big winners of the day: 1) snark 2) the complete hater meal(tots and rade)
losers: Seriousness.
Vamos Alberto!!!
Don't really agree on Seriousness
If you look at it’s statsfor the season, this was really an expected result
- placed 3rd on the 33km Algarve ITT Livethread behind Sadness and Perkyness
-Won the 30km Tirreno-Adriatico ITT Livethread
- 2nd on the 6km Sarthe ITT Livethread by one second
- won the 16km Trentino ITT Livethread
- 6th in the 2.7km Luxembourg prologue Livethread
- 3rd on the 7.8km Suisse prologue Livethread
- 9th on the 39km ending Suisse ITT
tee hee. :-)
I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!
i tell you who i like after yesterday,
is Kreuziger. Only 2 secs behind levi in a tt. This guy just keeps looking stronger. Any chance he battles for a top 5 in the gc?
I hope so
My TdF VDS team would be very happy if he does. Also, he could do well with White Jersey points.
It would make me feel better about picking Soler, without checking that his team had been invited to the tour.
Anyone know why Barloworld didn’t make it?
by LurkerMcLurkerson on Jul 5, 2009 5:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Duenas and general aura of stink would be a good guess
They would always be on the border of making it and with the forementioned questionmarks the ASO probably gave another team a chance to show something.
Another loser?
Pellizotti came in as 5th of his team at 1’33’’ of Cance. Not a big surprise maybe but coming in 5th while being the number 1 of your team gotta hurt.
"Where there’s a will, there’s a way.": Alberto Contador, shortly after waking up from brain surgery.
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