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from Sports illustrated - By Alexander Wolff, SI.com

Alberto Contador is a 26-year-old professional bike racer from Spain who in two seasons has won the Tours of France, Italy and his homeland. It's a feat matched by only four other riders in history, and by last fall Contador's performances had depleted the European press of its supply of superlatives. Then, in March, wearing the yellow leader's jersey one week into the Paris-Nice stage race.....

[Ed. - updated title to reflect original piece's correction from "class of cultures"]

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geez, misuse of words there... should be "clash" instead of "class" imho

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jul 8, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

It worked!

Got this reply:

I just went over and kicked the sleepy producer who posted the article.
Thanks for taking the time to point this out.

by tedvdw on Jul 8, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I might've wanted to complain about rather more than that...

… but as a cynical & no doubt corrupt European I really couldn’t be bothered. ;-)

by civetta on Jul 8, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

aren’t you English?

;)

by plinytheelder on Jul 8, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

but I can muddle along in 3 languages & have an A-level in the 80 years’ war ;-)

by civetta on Jul 9, 2009 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that wasn’t half bad, I had pretty low expectations but the writer seems to know his stuff. He could have gone a bit harder at the Armstrong ‘99 stuff, or viewed Europeans as a bit less cynical (it’s not as though the French and Germans, for example, are just turning a blind eye to doping), but an interesting article nonetheless I thought, thanks for posting.

by plinytheelder on Jul 8, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

One of those pieces

where I got about a third of the way through & thought ‘I am really not the intended audience for this article’. I was just waiting for him to say ‘this is like a Henry James novel’ & lo! I wasn’t disappointed.

by civetta on Jul 8, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

The problem with that piece is that it sort of presumes that not much has changed...

…in terms of the various attitudes of riders and fans in Europe since Parkin was riding.

He’s right that the puritanical moralism at stake in American judgements is missing, along with anything like the redemptive and salvific storyline that Armstrong was presented within, but I really think the idea that this round of CERA positives are no different from Festina is utterly bizarre.

Also, he completely goes along with the American perception that, really, the races outside the Tour de France are second rate at best. Sure, the TDF is the most important Grand Tour, but hello, Grand Tours are not the end all be all of the sport for European and otherwise informed fans. Ugh.

by Ed K on Jul 8, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

decent article

but i find the whole "innocent american" notion a bit odd. I mean our olympic athletes are doped up and the usoc has always turned a blind eye. Then there’s baseball. I mean! What’s that got to do with europeans – and oddly enough, baseball is still quite popular in the u.s., despite the widespread doping.

Then too people here are not quite as acceptive of doping as he says – so many times i’ve heard people express their disappointment about all the doping in cycling. And i think anti-doping efforts in europe are way ahead of what’s going on in the u.s.

At the same time there really is much more of the shoulder-shrug here. People know it – and well, what can you do? Shrug your shoulders is about all. I think americans are more into total denial. They can’t stand the cynicism of the shoulder shrug, so they refuse to see what’s going on. And when they’re forced to see it, they express outrage and make a big fuss, and then go back to covering their eyes.

I think european culture is just a bit older and bit less idealistic, is all.

(have to agree with some of the other criticisms posted here too)

by yeehoo on Jul 8, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

I agree about the less idealistic line. Americans aren’t that far removed from our “greatest generation”, those that fought in world war II. That generation, of which my grandfather was one and served in world war II, saw things in more black and white. Even he wasn’t very far removed from the idealism of his immigrant parents/grandparents that came over from the UK at the turn of the century seeking a “better life”. But as American “culture” develops more over time, things will change, much like it has in Europe.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 9, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

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