Monday Madness: Pop A Cold One!
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 3:31 PM EDT
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PrintTo hear the paid pundits describe it, America votes for its political leaders based on who they most want to have a beer with. Never mind that having a beer with these people is practically impossible, that some of the subjects (such as a recent president) aren't supposed to have beer with anyone, or that the experience would tell us nothing about their fitness for the job. No, those questions miss the point -- that everything is a form of entertainment -- so shut up and vote!
Well, all credit to Seahorse, who recognized in the Nibali thread that this is a perfectly good question to be asking of cyclists. Let's face it, pro cycling is a form of entertainment, to us anyway. Moreover, these guys tend to avoid beer, presumably against their wishes, despite many of them coming from some of the great detinations on any Beer Map (Belgium, Germany, etc.). So I would bet that a lot of cyclists, when allowed a frosty one, are especially pleasant to be around.
With that in mind, what currently active pro cyclist would you most like to have a beer with? I will add a poll when the choices start taking shape, though for now I don't fancy making a 1200-entry poll. To the comments!
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+1
not necessarily the “other things,” but you know it’s going to be a good time, and you can talk about the cobbled classics with one of the best.
Except for the unfathomable truth
that his favorite beer is Corona, this question can only be answered with Jens!
(and certainly NOT with Floyd Landis, “beer rule” or not . . .)
I take it as a sign that Corona is not that bad...
…that every native German I know (ok, there are two of them, but still) prefers it to a lot of the less, um, restrained microbrews dominating the tap of your local bar.
You see how calm Vaughters is? That’s because he’s really one giant seething ball of Evil inside. With like, extra Evil.
well . . . Corona is owned now by the same company (Gambrinus)
that owns Shiner . . . so . . . who knows . . .
Damn.
I think I just moved over a place on the Kinsey scale.
Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler
Hahahahaah!
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Ha! They're good legs, you can't deny!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
and
I just moved back one.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks about right.
It’s a lasses-on-a-hen-night kind of beer (though of the superior variety, you understand) up here (stag/hen capital of Britain).
That... is middle of summer beer...
… and the only beer applicable for the squeezing of citrus fruit.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Perfect beer
For a beach in Baja. A beach that is out of Dos Equis. And negra modelo. And pacifico…
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 11:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Elitist...
… you’re the sort of guy that drinks Chimay during Flanders aren’t you.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
come with me in April
and find out.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 11, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Worst cycling tan ever
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Aug 11, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess she will be pleased to hear that
judging by her comment on erasing tan lines: http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/elizabeth-hatch/throw-away-your-schedules
some controversy over Liz Hatch's CN blogs...
…a few well known DS have been openly critical of CN…commenting that CN should get “riders who actually know how to ride” to write riding blogs for CN….ouch! Yup Ms. Hatch is not very respected here in the States.
I don't follow them
But looking at the list of bloggers it seems to me that CN got that covered so it shouldn’t be a problem. The real problem have to be that there aren’t many updates, but it was the same thing back when they called them diaries.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Aug 11, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
...and many riders have their own blog sites
CN has been losing steam for some time. Many of my friends simply do not go to CN anymore for info.
Still…I knew Liz was not well respected but….whoa….to hear it first hand was quite interesting.
OK, so Andy posted a new diary today
Where he writes that Chris Anker Sörensen crashed out from the Tour. Difficult to tell the teammates apart? All those pesky Scandinavians.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Aug 11, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
They should, quite literally, mind their own business
and shut the fuck up. I really don’t get the negative attention. Yeah, she’s not a world class rider; so what! Should she shun any attention until she wins a world cup or something?
No no
Column inches should be democratically allocated to each rider according to your UCI-ranking.
Because that is how it works in the real world.
umm...no one is saying to shun her Ted...
…just that there are some terrific women out there…who are just as cute…can write…and oh by the way…can also ride. I think the DS who compliained have a valid point…and as Jens pointed out….it’s very much the Kournikova-syndrome
…and I enjoy her tweets as much as you do (smile)
No I don't get it at all
I really think their reactions are impolite and immature. In my opinion, they are confusing two perspectives: they don’t get the attention they think they deserve, which is fair enough; and she, for whatever reason, gets attention she doesn’t deserve. To confuse those viewpoints is immature, to voice the latter publicly is impolite. Then there’s the rudeness. All in all, very unprofessional of them. They are certainly not projecting a positive image for their teams.
Those terrific women of which you speak, hey, I like to meet them all! For now though, I don’t even know who they are. Apparently they don’t have it, that magic constellation of skills & thrills, in the same amount as Ms. Hatch after all. Also, life’s not fair. I say: grow up, shut up, do your own thing and appreciate what comes your way. And if you want more: go get it, make it happen. Don’t bitch & moan. Bah!
(Btw, in my exaggeration, I didn’t say to shun her but for her to shun attention.)
depends who's the gate-keeper on PR
and how THEY define “it.”
Apparently they don’t have it, that magic constellation of skills & thrills, in the same amount as Ms. Hatch after all.
There’s presumably a female Jens! out there, as well as a female Benna. Someone—not all of us, but a few people—decided that we don’t really want to know about the girl-Jens! (the girl-Cav, the girl Wiggo..) Because, you know, guys can be fascinating in a few hundred complex sorts of ways. But gals have to have “it” to get coverage.
True enough (& not just of cycling either).
On the other hand, how difficult is it to get, say, a twitter account?
The Kournikova comparison is a bit harsh
the real trouble is that there’s not a lot of money floating round the women’s scene anyway. Amber Neben tweeted a while back “”http://twitter.com/amberneben/status/3109722953" >I might make 1k this yr." So if Liz Hatch does a couple of photo-shoots then blows the cash going racing she’s not behaving much differently than quite a few people here who use the day job to support the bike.
Wow! All that climbing you do is so much more impressive now
now that I know you are half-blind and crazy.
'Excuse me, you are American, you have no idea about great beer.'
from big Jens! himself :)
http://www.dailypeloton.com/displayarticle.asp?pk=10506
Obviously Jens! has no idea about great beer
Here in this part of Germany, he would be strung up and humiliated in public.
If I just had one more gear, I...
Reminfs me of a German I used to know
if anyone should order a Budweiser while he was there he would take the bottle and sit there staring at it and muttering “Rice. Rice Rice.” to himself for half the evening.
Sandy Casar
I would drink mine quickly and then congratulate him on getting second place in our drinking contest.
"It's just a bike race" - Frank Schleck
Based on their tweets
Wegelius seems to be a nice guy. Greg Henderson pretty funny sometimes, but not as funny as DZ. Not Wiggo, we can drink mineral water together instead.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
Yeah Wegelius seems funny!
Loved his tweet about cows earlier
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Hmm...Soo many people to choose from...
Probably either Hoste (to see what it is like to never win the big one) or Haussler because he is just badass. Zabriskie would still top my list though…
Hoste?
Be prepared to get a lot of beer over you when he waves his arms.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Aug 10, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Haussler
nice one. He sounds like a guy who has a lot to say.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares if the guy is odd...he is one of the most successful American racers of all time and even if he has some quirks about him
he has been through about as many up’s and downs as you can throw at somebody. Example) Setting a record TT in the Tour and getting the yellow jersey and then crashing, dropping out and getting his hand smashed on a glass door. It is no wonder people think he is odd because they want him to say something funny every time they talk to him and he probably gets sick of it.
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 11, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
There are degrees of oddness in punishing your body relentlessly?
Day after day, year after year? I think pro cyclists are amazing but from where I stand they are all a little odd. Masochists to a man or woman and inspirational for all that :)
no....I do NOT expect him to say something funny everytime I meet him
he is sometimes very rude….often appears preoccupied…is irregular with his fans….like I said….seriously an odd bird.
Well not everybody can be "on" all of the time just for other people's sake...
If I had just crashed out of the tour or just had all of my possessions robbed, I would be a bit on edge and thinking about other things. If sometimes being a bit rude to people and being pre-occupied, especially if it is before a race, makes somebody odd then I’m sure that a good chunk of the peloton can be considered as such…
He does like to be alone and usually is not a fan of talking to the media (and seeing how you are part of some type of media, this might not be good for you)…example being, in the Giro last year were he purposely slowed up so he didn’t cross the line first so he wouldn’t have to go do the interviews for being in the maglia rosa…
But whatever, to each their own.
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 11, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm...I don't drink that much beer.
When I do, I’m either watching (American) football, eating a bacon sandwich because beer and bacon is a kickass combination, or shooting the shit with some friends.
So…if I’m watching football, it has to be with an American so I don’t have to explain the rules. I pick Christian Vande Velde, and a Bears-Colts game.
Sitting around shooting the shit—tough one. Jens! is an obvious choice, but imagine what Cav would say with a few beers in him. And Haussler seems like he would be fun to hang out with.
Eating bacon sandwiches: the Schlecks come to mind, because damn! those boys could use a little bacon.
Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler
I heard from a reputable source
((some guys from Cycling.tv) I know what you are all going to say about CTV) that Cav was hella drunk at the start of the 2007 Tour of Britain stage where he road in a long breakaway
by brunopitton on Aug 10, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Me
oh, let’s see. Someone who’s been around for a while. Jens! is, as Majope says, almost too obvious. I can’t think of anyone who’s even half as entertaining in general. But for the non-Jens! pick, I’ll go with Gilberto Simoni. I haven’t always been a fan, to say the least, but as long as he doesn’t know that, I bet we could have a good time. I would put Sylvain Chavanel on the list too, along with Oscar Freire and of course Lance Armstrong.
BTW, Hincapie is also a potential choice, except I get the impression he’s a bit quiet. And Ekimov would have been a shoo-in if we expanded to include retirees.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
Eki is a good choice...
but with only one to pick it would have to be Lance. (I hear he’s a fun guy when he’s not in intense mode. And holy cow – it’s Lance!)
George would be a good choice, too, but he’s too cute — it makes me nervous just being around him. (I spoke to g before — I was seriously just a bumbling idiot!)
I do have to add here that the most approachable guys I’ve talked to at past races were Tommy D (back in the TdG days – and also no small part of the reason that I’m still a fan) and Floyd last sept before he came back.
George bunny-hopped my bike somehow. He's like a cat. -- cvv
Re: George Hincapie
George would be a good choice, too, but he’s too cute — it makes me nervous just being around him. (I spoke to g before — I was seriously just a bumbling idiot!)
I got to talk to him once also and felt the same way. We are such fangirls cg.
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"Reality has a well-known Contador bias." -Sui Juris, PdC Editor
Verbal diarrhea...I have experienced this too!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Yep same here... Pippo did it.. LoL..
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
So it is a common affliction.
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"Reality has a well-known Contador bias." -Sui Juris, PdC Editor
Lance
has seen a lot. Putting aside the whole “it’s Lance!” thing, you could have a really interesting chat for sure.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I'd probably tell him to quit being a jackass on twitter.
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"Reality has a well-known Contador bias." -Sui Juris, PdC Editor
just tell him to stop being a jackass.....
period.
by Christopher See on Aug 10, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 for Gibo
Five beers in – and his tongue loosens. The man that gave you “He descends like cement” amongst other notable quotes is drunk, and you are the audience. The fun you could have and what you could learn!
Having seen Gibo talk to fans,
all of whom he treated like long-lost mates, I think you might be right.
Yep, I think that could be fun.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Does it come with free "lots to learn" tweets if you pass out?
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Aug 11, 2009 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I definitely need to sneak into a Saxo meeting with the beers,
since I can’t decide if I should choose Jens!, Fabian or the Schlecks.
Obviously need to take some bacon with me also; as majope said, beer and bacon and the Schlecks would be a pretty good combination.
On a side note, can I drink wine while the boys have beer?
Oh come on... how has no one said Chris Horner yet?
1. He’s badass.
2. He can give you a lift home afterwards
3. You get to use Levi as the table that you put the drinks on.
Drinking shots? Vino. If he’s buying.
Drinking shots? Jens! If I’m buying.
Drinking cocktails? Is Emilia 21 yet?
Drinking wine? Salvoldelli
Drinking whine? Evans
Drinking Plonk? Haussler
Drinking a cup of shut the fuck up? Billdozer.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Good one! Definitely Horner, too!
And eating a good meal – Jan
(Have pull in the retirees for this one!)
George bunny-hopped my bike somehow. He's like a cat. -- cvv
Thought about it
For me it’d have to be someone who knows Europe better than Horner. Chris has been around, but he doesn’t exactly lead the way in Giro or Flanders appearances.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Magic Eightball says: "Ask again later"
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
That's why I'd have had coffee with Evans
Never give a young boy from the bush plonk unless you want it to get very messy. I’m thinking Heinrich would go well on rum(dark) and coke.
Mmm beer. But it has to be real ale mind.
Being girly (sorry…), the answer might come from one of Benna, Boonen, Pippo, Capecchi, Nicolas Portal, Intxausti…or, hmm, let’s throw in there the British national champion too.
Or perhaps Igor Anton could teach me Basque over a beer (well, I’d need several million beers before reaching fluency).
But I think I’ll say Quinziato actually. He seems like a guy who knows how to enjoy life. I think we’d get on.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
I thought about picking Qunziato, too.
He would definitely be one of my top picks. He always seems to be smiling (and a beautiful smile it is), and I think you’re right that he would be a lot of fun.
Also, he has excellent taste in music. A lot of the band he’s mentioned on his twitter as being on his playlist are favorites of mine, including two of the best live bands I’ve seen in the last year (Editors and Franz Ferdinand).
by Susie Hartigan on Aug 10, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I suspect I know more than him about opera, but I'm sure he has a lot to teach me too...
….I need to be educated in certain musical areas! He just seems so uber cool.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Indeed. I do this all the time!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Group coffee and cake ride!!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Yay can I join in...
Gotto love manuel, He is truly one of the nicest guys I say..
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
Yay, double Fuji love there!
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Millar
yeah, he would be interesting. Same language too.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Er, no, I didn't say Millar!
But yes, he would be interesting.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
wait
who’s the British champ now??
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Kristian House
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Ah yes
My problem with the Nats is I tend to forget the changeover in June. Whoever has the shirt in spring, I picture them wearing it all season.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate to tell you that Rob Hayles had it last year, not Millar ;-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
I'll shut up now.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
But Millar had it the year before, so you were getting there! ;-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Is there a story here?! You really must tell!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
not really involving me . . .
except that I’ve stood within yards of Kris House on the start line at Walburg a couple of times, and would be interested to know if a). he remembered crap-tastic early season wind-nasty racing in Texas and b). what he thought about his time spent racing here . . .
Ah right! So how did you fare against him?!
I’ll see if I can ask him at the Tour of Britain!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
A very good guy, based on my few dealings with him.
And very cool.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Hm
sounds like an interesting person indeed. But I might not want to squander my have-a-beer-with on him if he’s going to want to talk about art.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, that is rather cool.
Does he do art himself then?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
dunno really
Seem to think I read somewhere that if he didn’t make it as a cyclist he would’ve gone to art school.
How I met him was that he, his mother (!), the girlfriend &, of all people, Cam Meyer turned up at our degree show opening in June. They were drinking; I was working, alas. I never quite worked out exactly what they were doing there & no one else seemed to know either. I was also kind of too embarrassed to ask, so I just kind of said hello, nice to see you here, hope the tour goes well etc.. Cam Meyer was astonished I knew who he was. But Millar really looked like he’d been hanging out places like that all his life (if slightly more expensively dressed…).
Hahaha...what a story!
My jaw would truly hit the floor if a pro cyclist (let alone his whole entourage) walked into my work!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Hmm, I might go with Basso
Even if his personality turned out to be a bit boring (as it probably would), just looking at his face accross the table would carry significant entertainment value. Plus, although quiet, he seems like a genuinely warm, nice guy. Also, he seems like the type who nurses a single beer for two hours, so we could get in a good, long conversation.
If we include retirees: Bettini by a mile.
Tifosa and Basso: Dinner - Act I
Basso: Long day.. 2 training now dinnar with my family and relax
Tifosa: No Ivan, you’re having dinner with me, Tifosa
Basso: Dinnar with my fans club from beligium. They come to visit me and my family..im happy
Tifosa: Ivan, you’re at dinner with me, not your family or fan club. Please stop updating twitter at the table.
Basso: Im eating with the lotto sport sport italy director
Tifosa: Really Ivan, are you that dense? Can you look up for one second from your phone and realize who you’re eating dinner with tonight?
Basso: Watching internet !
Tifosa: Now don’t get snippy with me. You’ll have plenty of time to “watch the internet” after dinner. Now how was your day?
Basso: I dont take the start today i feel bad.
Tifosa: I’m sorry to hear that. Do you have a virus?
Basso: Antidoping control at home…
Tifosa: You shouldn’t tell people that is why you missed your start. They may get suspicious.
Basso: I go to sleep good night..
Tifosa: You haven’t even ordered yet!
(All Basso dialogue stolen from actual Basso tweets)
by PopUp Rolen on Aug 10, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
this
is freaking priceless
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Amazing.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Hahahahahahahaha!
Just wonderful.
Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler
LOL
Is it rude to combine the dinner and the drinking game?
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Aug 11, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you could have a real deep and meaningful discussion with Basso.
And if all else failed you could just stare at his eyes.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
and there would be nothing wrong with that.
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
perhaps for the two of you....
I’m thinking one of the active ladies would be more appropriate eye gazing material.. Just saying. And yes it would be their eyes in gazing into… as I’m shell shocked into speechlessness…. I did say I was a photog, not a writer…
by Christopher See on Aug 10, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh lord..I can only pick one?!
I’m naturally indecisive….being female my mind is always swayed by certain factors.
I’m thinking Valverde so i can get him really drunk and find out the damn truth about this whole OP thing.
But from a totally female perspective – Lulu, Eros Capecchi, AC, Lovkvist…I’m not too fussy, got loads of back-up if they’re not available!
If I have to pick someone no longer availbe, Coppi please!
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
AV, yes. I'd certainly like to be in on that one.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Hmm
You could join us eventually, but first I have to ask him important questions, like how would he feel if i were to hypnotise him and several Cd’E members (Lulu, Oscar & Erviti), become a bigomist and marry them all ;)
Mwuaha.
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Ha! Choices are just too hard, no? ;)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Very!
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Oh trust me that's on the agenda too ;)
But i just want to know from him, 1 on 1.
Then discussion of other things can begin…or no discussion. I’m happy just to stare at him etc ;)
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Oh yes!
I could just kill for some sangria now!
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Staring is fine my me...but he does sound mighty nice when he talks,
even if I have no idea what he’s saying!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Oh i know!
And as long as he kept smiling that sexy smile i could just nod and grin for hours..
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Oh if only I could get the chance to do so
Ok, i’m slipping away into daydreams, must come back
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
Have you actually interviewed him?!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
ladies
LADIES! dreamland is over there -——→pleae move along, step lively now…
<..snicker..>
by Christopher See on Aug 10, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I covered the crazy 2007 worlds....and was able to meet him.
I am not fluent in Spanish….I was with the El Pais reporter after the race…and it was very cool. He came out for the interview after TVE reporters left. Spoke with us for almost 30 minutes. He apologized for eating his sandwich as he was quite hungry after the race. Very quiet and polite rider…..very humble……and absolutely adorable…..and yup, I am quite biased. After the interview he thanked us…..sweet man.
Oh that's fabulous!
Mmmm. I think I’d have been a giggling wreck, that’s if I’d managed to retain consciousness of course. You lucky thing!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
He always comes across that way so it's awesome you can confirm that!
:) Nothing wrong with bias for AV
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
amend the question to "what cyclist besides Jens!"
Or it’s a foregone conclusion.
I will toss in a non-roadie, who may not even drink, come to think of it, but I bet it would be a fun night out… this ’un.
Even though I am by no means a fan, it would have to be Johan Bruyneel
seeing what kind of weird crap he writes on twitter sober, I could only imagine the gems that would come out of his mouth while he’s drunk.
"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel
Yes, almost unhumanly sober
or at least boring, could someone really be that boring drunk?
"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel
I think if I were drunk and he started talking at me like that
I’d get fairly hysterical.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Adam Myerson (Mountain Khakis) is a total beer buff
So he’s got that going for him, which is nice. On the other hand, while we’re drinking the good stuff, he might bore me to death with his radical feminist theories.
Clubbing: Boonen or Millar.
On a binge: Wiggins.
Appletinis & Corona: Liz Hatch.
Down at the local pub: Laurens ten Dam or Karsten Kroon
Shots contest: Sven Nys.
Quite enjoyed Laurens Ten Dam's reports on his camper van criterium tour lately.
Terrible I’m basing so much of my opinions of people on twitter though!
Haha, same here!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
emma p.
she seemed really nice and fun to be around when she came back to ride with the Uni team a couple of months ago
Ohh Hard choice here..
Well, i’m lucky to say I’ve had a beer/wine with most of my favourties.. Have one that second round shouts are being planned.
Have to say at the moment i’m all for having a Beer or 3 with Haussler, he’s an aussie,so an all nighter would be the call.. Can we go the Aussie BBQ, with the rest of the Aussies… Now thats the way to go..
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
Hm
Yes, for the Aussies, consider the question “who would you like to close a pub at 6am with?”
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 11:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, for sure Jens! would be the guy.
But I ran across this on youtube, and Thor and GHH seem like they are having a pretty good time. Of course, how can you not have a great time drinking beer in Belgium after the Tour that these guys had? :-) (Warning, loud volume)
Jens! Jens! Jens!
How can there be another choice for an English-speaker? But if forced to Plan B … Andy Schleck seemed like kind of sly fun on CVV’s Broadband Racer films.
I’d like to drink with Ullrich (and someone who spoke German) — interested in the vibe from him. Can he be as sweet and as dumb and as generally adorable as I think? I’m curious about Kloden.
I sees to going very German here, and very much for the older-generation, save for young Schleck.
Ohhh... good choice!
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Only problem with drinking with Tony...
… the more I drink, the funnier his accent gets. And if he switches to German, it’ll be all over.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
you mean
“German”? He is Swiss, you know.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ich denkung that
das der punkten warende gewesen wurste.
(Sud-Texas deutsch courtesy of Flaco Jimenez)
This
Needs to be written down
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 11:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was being generous...
… didn’t want to offend Will… he’ll send his Warrior Cow to attack me.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Speaking of Will, I'd be curious to hear his take.
If for no other reason than he’d want to climb a mountain and then have a beer with the rider. What mountain? What Beer?
The first cyclist to stand up to him. And he did it in silence.
... and which pro could he find to haul the beer up for him...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
+ 1 that looks a lot like my list.
except it’d be Fabian, DZ and Jens!
cancellara, lance, and jens are a toss up
it would be really cool to swill with andy hampsten.
"Race radios in Cat 4?"
Fabian Cancellara
or Thor Hushovd.
Wow. Thought I had it narrowed down to Fabian but its Thor who keeps popping up in my dreams. For reals.
____________
"Reality has a well-known Contador bias." -Sui Juris, PdC Editor
Thor?
Does he talk much? I mean, besides at the end of a sprint?
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I ain't drinking with Thor...
… I’m riding chickens with Thor. Riding chickens wasn’t listed as an option.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Andy Schleck
Seems like he would be able to pull the most female interest and act as a wingman… plus he’s so skinny, you probably only need to buy him 2 beers.
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
Not exactly
The spirit of the question. Well played nonetheless.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 11:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kneesi
The beers would be on me all night! Legend!
milramfan.
by milram- on Aug 10, 2009 9:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Devolder!
I’m guessing he gets so much free Belgian beer he’d be happy to share!
Don't be afraid! I'll be right behind you, using you as a shield!
by Richmond Roadie on Aug 10, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
Stuey. great stories im sure plus he seems like a great guy.
by Mr Van P on Aug 10, 2009 9:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ok
Top five choice for sure.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 11:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks Chris,
I went to bed working out how to frame this. I figured there’d be guys I’d want to have a beer with, then a wine with others and possibly, for some of the others a coffee.
I also had the problem of not being able to stop at one. In that it seems I’m not alone. Stuey O’Grady was going to be my first pick – runs on the board, great sense of humour, and I love his laconic self deprecating style. However, if he brought Jens! and Tony along I wouldn’t be complaining. Sort of a ying-yang thing.
But I had others too: ‘Still waters run deep’ category
Klodi because there are stories to tell and I like his brown eyes.
Menchov because I think with a skinful he’d be hilarious. Last interview I saw he was amusing and interesting.
There was more but maybe we can start a coffee thread when there’s another quiet day…
"a skinful"?
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
as in 'lots of drink in his belly'
as in a wineskin. They hold a fair bit, do wineskins, so if you’ve had a skinful…
Tuft or Horner
Horner doesn’t mind telling you what he thinks and he has a great ability to read a race. I’d love to hear about his time on Webcor – he was winning some big American races and most his support can from guys with full time jobs. I’d love to hear how that compares to riding for a big budget team.
Svein Tuft is such a different guy it would be interesting to hear why he finally decided to pursue racing full time. I don’t know a ton about him, but he seems to have a much different set of priorities than most people.
Tough call
Jens! is an obvious choice, but I’d probably be too intimidated to really relax. Benna, Spartacus, and Basso have an obvious appeal, but frankly, I suspect they’d all be boringly polite and gracious.
If I were with Boonen, I’d expect that I’d be too boring and he’d be scoping the room for something more entertaining.
VandeVelde seems like a good choice, he seems sweet enough that I wouldn’t be too intimated, easy to talk to, and he’s probably got some interesting experience.
Cav’s so fast, he’d probably be finished his beer before I ever got to the restaurant.
Popo would probably be a lot of fun and he seems agreeable. Gibo is definitely a good choice. Vaughters would be interesting and I know he’d pick some good wine. McEwen seems like he’d be pretty entertaining and I get the impression he’d relax and stick around for awhile.
The Schlecks would make me nervous because they probably wouldn’t eat any pretzels and they’d make me self conscious if I had any snacks.
Lance would definitely be interesting, and if you picked the right topic he’d probably be talkative.
My Saxo Bank bias says Jens!, Stuey, Hoj, or Fabian would be good drinking companions.
But I will shun this bias and choose Bernie Eisel who would no doubt have many interesting tales about his teammates, particularly Cavvie.
Mon coeur appartient aux les forçats de la route.
Plus he's funny as hell! Good choice..
Hadn’t thought about Eisel
"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.
As much as I enjoy the men's pro field...I have infinite respect for the women riders
…would love to hang with Kristen Armstrong (Cevelo)….Ina Yoko Teutenberg (Columbia)… Tina Pic (Colavita)….Christine Thorburn (retired from Webcor)…..and of course Longo. Can you imagine the stories they have?
Longo!
Whoa… Might need to get stuck on a cruise ship if you can hope to scratch the surface.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 10, 2009 11:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Longo is a great choice
Yesterday, I bought the Red Zinger/Coors Classic dvd (LBS had it on sale for half-price).
So, last night I watched the 1985 Coors Classic. Men’s race: Lemond vs. Hampsten, also featuring Hinault, Phinney, Bauer (in other words, guys who’ve been retired for 15-20 years now). Women’s winner: Longo :-)
by Susie Hartigan on Aug 11, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure... but this either requires glorification...
… or a shunning.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Easy... Robbie McEwen
He’s Australian so you know he can drink more than one beer.
He lives in Belgium so you know he likes beer.
He’s a sprinter so you know he can hold his own in a Donnybrook (even if he is 5’8")
Merckx , if retired is included, and not least of all because
he’s from Belgium and the beer would be really good.
If it's beer, it has to be someone from a beer drinking nation, not Italy or France
Probably an Aussie (Stuey or HH), German (Jens! or HH), or Belgian (Mattan). I would ask Mattan how it felt to steal Ghent-Wevelgem from Flecha.
If I just had one more gear, I...
Roman Kreuziger
Czech beer is termendous … and I don’t know much about it.
And shots with Vino – at a mid-stage feed break
Moo
Erik and Rolf,
then wait for Boonen, Cancellara, and Jens! outside the bar.
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
I would love to have a drink with all five
but I know I’m missing something here. Why are the youngsters waiting outside?
No mystery
The youngsters would be inside the bar drinking with various people on this poll. I’d have to wait for them to finish and then go to another bar :-)
The last time I was in Belgium I went to two after hours bars and was on track to hit a third one when I realized it was 5:15am.
Hilarity ensued……….
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
I had a similar experience in Vienna
But the joke was on me. Australian beer’s not weak exactly, but compared to a lot of European ones! It was when I was riding pillion on cobbles that penny dropped.
it's a good point
Riders like Andy would leave early due to Curfew …..
Boonen would forget his curfew and Jens! would say curfew is for wimps
Moo
I'd enjoy Cav ...
He’s the most likely to actually say what he thinks!
But the Schlecks would probably be really entertaining, judging from Andy’s blog and Frank’s antics on TV and at photo sessions.
Gesink sounds pretty interesting based on what he writes in his blog.
And I’ve always been curious about what Chechu Rubiera is like in person. Someone who manages to finish up his university degree in the off-season seems a bit different, possibly with some interesting things to say.
by GreylockGrinder on Aug 11, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
Ah yes, pro cyclists with univ degrees
Pedro Horrillo – philosophy
Manuel Quinziato – law (although, not finished, is he?)
Karsten Kroon – mechanical engineering
Maarten Ducrot – psychology (but only started cycling after his studies)
Well, maybe he's not a pro cyclist anymore
But Caucchioli studied pharmacology.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Aug 11, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure that I've read a longer article somewhere
This was the only thing I could find now. Anyway, one of they guys that the Italian police arrested a month ago in a doping case was also a former rider and a pharmacologist.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Aug 11, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Marianne Vos started studying biomedical sciences
but I think she broke it off after one year, to concentrate on her cycling career.
Serge Pauwels is doing Engineering of some sort I think
Quinzi’s degree has been going on for ages…it seems you can do it that way in Italy!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
You stay registered until you've done enough courses to graduate
however long it takes. And the professors don’t really care either because most of them got the job through political connections.
Lance Armstrong has a degree in tweeting
he is also a teacher for those cyclists who have a lot to learn.
"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel
I thought that she'd finished
and was a full-time cyclist this year.
Juan Mauricio Soler
I’d like to toast his move to Caisse. He seems such a happy guy, I’m assuming it would be fun, and the little guy deserves a break
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
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