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The Wednesday Session

Gav_mediumSo apparently I had to go for a bike ride before I could write this week's column. And eat a few gummy bears. Of course, this delay means that some of you will have to read the Wednesday Session on Thursday. Hopefully, the cosmos will survive. Good thing the editor around here is a total creampuff. Or I'd be so out on my, erm, shammy. Now, I'm all caffeinated, endorphined, sugared and ready to shred. This week, a delightful buffet of small bites, zestily seasoned with snark.

Let's start with the silly kids over at LPR-Brakes. Yesterday, they decided it was time for Danilo Di Luca to go. Di Luca, whose B-samples from the Giro d'Italia, came back positive in an unsurprising match of the A-samples, is now out on his, erm, shammy. LPR-Brakes also threatened to sue the Italian for damages to the team image. Damages to the team image? Bitch, please. No doubt the team is trying desperately to avoid the fate of CSF-Navigare, who has not seen the start of a major race since the doping cases involving Emmanuele Sella and Matteo Priamo last season. See RCS, looks at us, we're super duper indignant about Di Luca testing positive. We're like so totally a clean team and look, we're holding him completely responsible. Please, pretty please invite us to the Giro next year? Aaaah, I do like me some schadenfreude. Toasted over a bed of arugula with a nice chianti. Mamma mia, that's some good stuff right there. While LPR-Brakes is talking a big game - as is Di Luca, who promises to prove the testing method is thoroughly flawed - I doubt much will come of all this operatic hand-waving. If CONI proves its case, the double positives carry a four year sanction. Adio Di Diluca.

Star-divide

The Shack is a hug. At least, according to the marketing poster hanging in the window of my local RadioShack, which should under no circumstances be confused with the Gav Shack®. Anyway, the Team The Shack, the most awkwardly named cycling team in the history of the world must represent the sponsor's brand in all things. Group hug! Just imagine if The Shack had sponsored the team during the recent Tour de France. No time for in-fighting, too busy hugging. The hiring process, meanwhile, seems not be be all hugs and sunshine so far for Team The Shack. Today Tony Martin confirmed he had turned down an offer to ride for the team, while last week, Andy Schleck similarly denied negotiating with the Shack-sters. George Hincapie, who has no love for Astana-turned-Shack after those meanies chased him out of the Yellow Jersey, will certainly not be joining his former team-mate Lance Armstrong, and is rumored to be joining the up-and-coming BMC, who has big ambitions of their own. BMC is also reportedly courting Levi Leipheimer, because they WANT TO GO TO THE TOUR. Really, really badly. Leipheimer hasn't said much of anything about his plans. He's quiet that way. So far, the confirmed riders for the The Shack include Lance Armstrong and Sergio Paulinho, with Janez Brajkovic, Jaroslav Popovych, Gregory Rast, and Haimar Zubeldia likely to follow. Hope they like to hug.

Meanwhile, the new Team Sky has managed to fill all of its roster spots except three, according to sports director Scott Sunderland. We do know who isn't riding for them, at least for now: Bradley Wiggins, Vincenzo Nibali, Mark Cavendish, Dan Martin, and Alessandro Ballan. Then, it's a whole lot of maybe's. Edvald Boasson Hagen might ride for them. So might Thomas Lövkvist, while Simon Gerrans, Heinrich Haussler are also all rumored to be headed to the new British team. Will there be hugging?

The Contador riddle continues, and Jonathan Vaughters seemed to deny that Garmin-Slipstream would hire the Spanish Tour champion in a recent interview with NY Velocity. Either Vaughters is playing his cards close to his chest or the American team does not have the cash to buy out Contador. The pre-Tour flirtation between Contador and Garmin-Slipstream assumed that the Astana team would dissolve and Contador would be free to find a new team. Now Vaughters tells us that despite The Shack, Contador has another year on his contract with Astana. Say who-wha? It's all very complicated this Contador confusion. How are the future Shack-sters able to change teams, while Contador remains locked into his contract? Strange doings, that's for sure, especially when by all accounts, the riders on Astana contracted with Bruyneel's management company, not the Astana sponsors. In the meantime, Caisse d'Épargne is reporedly looking for a new sponsor to cover the cost of Contador's salary, but have yet to find one. The Spanish team, sponsored by a French bank, have frequently been named as Contador's likely destination, but without a sponsor they will have to keep dreaming. No cash, no Contador. If Vaughters is correct, and really, would you trust a guy with sideburns like that? - Contador still needs to buy out his old contract, which complicates the transaction further. Or does he. I can't help but ask: Vaughters, baby, are you playing us?

On the subject of Vaughters and Garmin-Slipstream, Peter Stetina, who has had significant success as an U23, will ride for the pro team beginning next year. Jack Bobridge, Travis Myers, and Michele Krater are also joining Garmin-Slipstream from the U23 ranks, because according to Vaughters chicks dig argyle.

In women's racing, meanwhile, Ina Teutenburg won today's stage of the Route de France, a five day stage race taking place in, you guessed it, France. Information about the race is sadly a bit scarce, though the official site has short daily updates. Teutenberg told Radsport-news.com that today's finale was "hard, because it went uphill, though the stage was mostly flat before." The final two stages involve climbing, and Tuetenberg expects it to be difficult to hold the race lead. That's all I got.

On the subject of women's racing, in the "beer thread", a brief discussion broke out over reactions to the decision by Cyclingnews to publish a blog from Liz Hatch. A few of the women's team directors were less than stoked by this decision (the twit refused to give up the original comments, and they may have been removed.) No doubt the reaction had a great deal to do with frustration over the perception that the main cycling websites devote too little attention to women's racing. Certainly, the cycling media remains something of a dudecruise. (Scroll to the bottom, clicky "authors". Seriously VeloNews, no women on the writing staff? Not one?) Me, I keep hearing the mainstream media is like so over and that Cyclingnews is dead. Dead. Dead. Dead. Of the more than 300 "people" I follow on the Twit, though, only about a dozen of the Twit-erz are women riders. Seriously, girls, where are you? The high profile men's teams are high profile either because they win a lot of races (Columbia-HTC) or because they make sure that the fans get to know their riders (Slipstream-Garmin). Both is ideal, natch. Slipstream-Garmin, they have this PR thing dialed. Wander by their webby, and there's sure to be a story from a rider - not just a race report from a PR person, but a story from an actual rider. Me, I'd love to get to know more women riders. Dear Women's Teams, Please help me get to know your riders. Tell them to blog more. And write funny race stories. And make Twit. XOXO, Gav.

Turning to Italy for a moment, there's rivalries galore in the House of Liquigas. After his podium finish, Franco Pellizotti wants full-on team leadership for the Giro d'Italia. Pellizotti hopes to negotiate with Ivan Basso for the privilege, offering in return support for a Tour bid by Basso. Of course, that plan runs smack into the ambitions of the young riders at Liquigas, Vincenzo Nibali and Roman Kreuziger, both of whom finished in the top ten of this year's race around France. No doubt Basso hopes he will find success in the upcoming Vuelta. A high-placing would strengthen his hand in the intra-squad rivalry. Now, how could these boys settle this little rivalry... Mud-wrestling?

Staying in Italy, the Trittico Regione Lombardia takes place next week. The Coppa Ugo Agostoni starts things off on Monday. Monday is a truly odd day for a bike race, but nobody asked me. Ivan Basso and Alessandro Ballan will take the start. The 89th running of Tre Valli Varesine comes next, on Tuesday 18 August. Ballan, Basso, and Stefano Garzelli will all attend the party, which begins in Luino. The race follows bumpy terrain and this year, finishes on a short, steepish climb (Gradient 7.6%). Francesco Ginanni won last year. Don't believe me? Watch the viddy. The threesome finishes with the Coppa Bernocchi. Danilo Napolitano won this race three times in a row. Which tells you something about the profile. It's, erm, flat. These races are among the number of one-day races that pop up on the Italian calender late in the season in preparation for the World Championships and Italy's grand finale, the Giro di Cunego.

Vinokourov... Who?

Okay, I've run out of gummy bears, which means this snark session must come to an end. But don't be sad, because we can do it all over again next week. Promise. I might even write the Wednesday column early enough for more people to read it on Wednesday. But I'm not making any rash sorts of promises. I mean, I might have to go for a bike ride again. Or buy more gummy bears.

XOXO,
Gav.

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Paulinho’s riding for Radio Shack? That’s hilarious. (Sorry, been out of the loop for a while.)

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 12, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

ain't it tho?

eh, reported yesterday or today. that’s why we have the session, you know. to get you all caught up and stuff. and for me to say silly stuff.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Horner? Maybe they’ll be roomies ;)

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 12, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be cute, now wouldn't it?

nothing confirmed yet. rumored to the shack, but it’s still unclear. me, i think he goes elsewhere. vediamo.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah would be funny if he said “aw Sergio let’s let bygones be bygones” and presented him with a Spanish flag ;)

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and then,

put it on the twit, of course.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Srsly

if it’s the Shack, they really need to rent PdC House in Los Olivos and put the whole team up there for the winter. [Yo, Livestrong peeps… this is PR GOLD!]

ABRUZZIAM...uh oh

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 13, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hugs? You're joining The Shack?!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

my portuguese

not so good. i can sorta read it if i try really hard, but not very well. alas.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if it was written in crayon? Would that help?

I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!

by nikki on Aug 12, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, it would so totally help

hi nik, is it still wednesday there too?

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is still Wednesday here. :-)

Interesting night. So hope to not repeat. Did get to see Pop Up Rolin and jasallee though!

I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!

by nikki on Aug 12, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

Seemed kind of hectic for you. Pop-Up kicked Ass, I kind of did the opposite.

"I had a cameraman filming me on the back of a bike, I rode up to him and
said: 'hey, this is a pretty shitty situation, why don't you just leave me alone with my misery? I was close to punching him off his bike … but I didn't, of course."" Jens!

by jsallee00 on Aug 12, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha, yes hectic is one way of putting it. :-)

Pop Up had a good night for sure! Those fields can be tough so it was good to see his smiling face after it was done. Well done! Glad you came out! Let me know about Friday night in the email. :-)

I love C, not because he rocks as a cyclist, but because deep down he's a band geek! LOL!

by nikki on Aug 13, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same as my italian.

I try to understand it doing portuguese + spanish

by perezbike on Aug 12, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, yeah

they’re all similar, but so very different ;-)

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have just surrendered

to the fact that I cannot learn another latin language…otherwise I will mix the 3 of them all together and nobody will understand me. heheh

by perezbike on Aug 12, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, don't ask me to speak any of them

i generally can keep them straight – french and italian are different enough. but it’s definitely not easy.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha, agreed

the real problem comes when you suddenly realise that you don’t know the word you want to say in the language you are speaking at the time, but it’s too late to go back and rephrase, that’s when something in my brain seems to go to a language in which I do know the word.

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, yeah

that’s pretty much what always happens to me too. oddly, i don’t default to english when that happens, but to another non-english language. silly.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Done that lots of times

“why did you start speaking to my grandma in Italian?”

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no hope for me...I get French and German muddled!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

erm

isn’t that quite hard to do?

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well you see,

I did them both for GSCE and then did A-level German and dropped then French. I also had to do a pointless language translation paper in the first year of my history degree, for which I did German…..so my German got quite good and I forgot most of the French. German also always came more naturally to me than French. The upshot is that every time I go to France now, the German words always pop into my head before the French ones, and sometimes they pop out of my mouth too if I’m not thinking!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did exactly the same only the other way round...

(including the useless translation stuff) & then tried to learn other Latin languages on top, so German’s just totally different.

My default “foreign” is Italian, because it was acquired rather than learnt, if you see what I mean. My biggest crime is Italian when I mean Spanish, sticking superfluous vowels on the ends of things…

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny story

Recently did graphics for a product tag that had English and French. Proof came back with English and German replacing the French. They were supposed to use the art exactly as we sent it! Who knows where the German came from!

You don’t happen to be working for a printer in India now? ;-)

by Veloki on Aug 13, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, I don't really live in London at all ;-)

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have outsourced yourself?

Hmmm… Maybe I should give it a try.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

been there, done that.

was studying abroad in vienna, went to visit france. it all got mixed up!

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad I'm not the only one!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just hate it:

when riders try to get rid of their doping offenses through technicalities like the test was not done on the right day, by the right people with the right procedures or italy doesn’t have jurisdiction over a spanish rider…come on!!

bah!! technicalities

by perezbike on Aug 12, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

lol, excellent rantage

bah!

i’ll be very surprised if di luca weasles out of this one. but strange things happen. ooooh, forgot about the valverde thingy. uci wants to decide before the vuelta. wanting and doing, so not the same thing.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am hopeless on valverde being punished

it is funny (to say the least) to read the spanish news, their position is something like “how absurd is to punish an athlete that has never been caught on a doping test? with no proves”

ai ai ai…..sad

by perezbike on Aug 12, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bah due process!

Still, nobody likes watching these sideshows.

ABRUZZIAM...uh oh

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 13, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like that'll happen....

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Team The Shack

Since The Shack is so much about Celebrity, I am hoping they can tempt another celeb into the fold. It would be…

wait for it….

Shaq’s The Shack!!!

Now there’s a team name. And I’d love to see the big man running a marathon with Lance….

by ManBicycleThing on Aug 12, 2009 10:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Believe it or not!

A long time ago, I saw an article about how Cannondale had custom-built a mountain bike for him. There might have even been a picture of him with the bike, but I don’t recall any spandex; just the typical lumpy NBA-looking ‘sweatsuit’.

That would be a lot of aluminum.

by ManBicycleThing on Aug 12, 2009 10:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

he’s also been challenging Armstrong to races of some sort on twitter recently

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 12, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't their a new show coming out

were he challenges other athletes to competition….in those athletes sports(in over your head are you Shaq?)

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 12, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

*there a new show

I just overheard about it on Pardon the Interruption, so I don’t know if it’s true or not.

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 12, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

so...

you follow both armstrong and shaq on the twit?

heh heh.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is a funny guy on de Twit named @tehawesome

Heh.

____________

"Reality has a well-known Contador bias." -Sui Juris, PdC Editor

by ZoeRochelle on Aug 13, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

neither actually

but I end up reading them both quite regularly, Shaq is a funny, funny dude. He actually wrote “Shaq, tell me how my ass tastes” when the Lakers won the championship. (Hopefully everyone gets the reference.)

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 13, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Korfball?

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I played korfball once...fun actually

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot that quote...

… and I’m sorry I did.

"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi

by crashdan on Aug 13, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shack-sters

Heh.

____________

"Reality has a well-known Contador bias." -Sui Juris, PdC Editor

by ZoeRochelle on Aug 12, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

it works?

i’m thinking… maybe.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely works. I am putting it in my mental nickname database.

Team = The Hug

Riders = Shacksters (with or without hyphen)

____________

"Reality has a well-known Contador bias." -Sui Juris, PdC Editor

by ZoeRochelle on Aug 13, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

or Team Hug.

or Team XOXO

Hah. So many to choose from.

____________

"Reality has a well-known Contador bias." -Sui Juris, PdC Editor

by ZoeRochelle on Aug 13, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking without the hyphen

I’m not sure where those things come from really. They just pop up all over the freakin’ place.

The merry shacksters, heh.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

LPR won't get into the Giro anyway

who will they have next year? Petacchi is probably leaving, so is Bisisio and Pietro…something. That’s all their top riders from this year gone.

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 12, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah that's what I'm thinking too

last year they had two former winners…next year they’ll have nobody….RCS probably won’t be interested.

by rbjhan on Aug 12, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

bosisio is leaving, forget where he's going actually

but petacchi? where is he headed, i’ve lost track.

management is also probably trying to keep their sponsor from fleeing to the swamp of txirba.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said probably leaving

I’ve seen him linked to a few different PT teams(although I can’t say which exact one’s right now) and surely he wants to give it a crack in the biggest races again.

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 12, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he wants to leave, yeah

that was going around after the Giro. Funny shit right there, actually, with Di Luca threatening to leave if the management couldn’t promise a pro tour license and all the candy. haven’t seen anything since about a petacchi transfer tho.

i’m all but certain bosisio is out. now, if i could just remember where. sheesh, c’mon brain.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to that huge wielernieuws list, a lot of teams are chasing Bosisio

Lampre-NGC, Liquigas, Acqua & Sapone, Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni, CarmioOro, Cérvelo Test Team

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 12, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

ja, but that list...

it’s a bit silly, really. i think it was liquigas that i had in mind, actually.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bit silly? I bet only 10% of those rumors come true

but I imagine Bosisio is going to one of those teams.

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 12, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that list tells us

he’ll ride for a team in italy. uh, guys, tell us something we didn’t know. sheesh ;-)

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, Switzerland(Cervelo) is not Italy!

…it’s more like Germany!

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 12, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

picky, picky

all the rest of those teams, so totally italian, yo.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually Serramenti PVC is Colombian :)

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 13, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or are they Venezuelan?

either way, not Italian!

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 13, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oohh

I so want him to go to Bweeg or FDJ and bring his train to the Tour!

ABRUZZIAM...uh oh

by Chris Fontecchio on Aug 13, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

celebrity The Schack Roster for the Tour de France 2010

LA
Ben Stiller
The real Shaq
Robin Williams
Eddy Merckx
Damien Hirst
Bono Vox
Fignon
Tony Hawk

But I concluded this from his twitter so you never know. I have a lot to learn I think.

by perezbike on Aug 12, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

You forgot one certain set of twins

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 12, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twitter

I believe everything that is twittered, and I think that makes me a much more selective reader.

by ManBicycleThing on Aug 12, 2009 11:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

snort

This is good. If we work at it, we could probably put together the whole team right here. Who needs a press release?

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your forgot

Matthew McConaughey and Jake Gyllenhaal. Majope will be able to come up with some, er, appropriate pictures. Also see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuYD2cwMbpw

by tedvdw on Aug 13, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is funny. He does MM well.

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"Reality has a well-known Contador bias." -Sui Juris, PdC Editor

by ZoeRochelle on Aug 13, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Matt Damon tabbed to play Lance at one point in the movie?

I can’t remember for sure, but I kind of think so….. Anybody remember?
If so add Matt to the team.

by Veloki on Aug 13, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gemeos

Is that Portuguese for twins? Gemelli is the Italian. Makes me smile, because there is a pasta named that too.

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

don’t worry, we won’t hold it against you

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 13, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice write up Gav.

But I didn’t read JV’s answers in the interview to deny in any way that they weren’t trying to hire AC. In fact, it seemed to me that some of JV’s answers were very flattering and even defensive of AC, like someone who is courting someone. Herbalife is waiting in the wings with the money. My guess, as far as the delay in signing him, is that they might be waiting to see if AC has a legal way out of the contract so they don’t have to pay Astana, or they can wrestle for substantially less money paid in the buy out. That and maybe AC is still just considering his options.

No horn, watch for finger.

by sminer on Aug 12, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe

he was evasive for sure – either he’s not chasing contador anymore, or he’s spinning because it isn’t confirmed.

don’t forget, even good sources are sometimes wrong ;-)

by Jen See on Aug 12, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

it seemed to be more along the lines “well duh we want him, but we are waiting to see what those meany Kazakhs are doing, cause we can wait a year if must, but we are not wasting time arguing with them in Russian”. A matter of fact, he was very keen not to ever actually say they aren’t chasing him, just that it’s complicated,

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Aug 12, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did read Vaughters's answers

as giving weight to the Robbie-Hunter-as-leadout-for-Farrar rumour, on the other hand.

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, agree

It sounds like that’s an all-but-done dealio. Too bad I’m so not a fan of that guy. Meh.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't hunter use to lead out thor?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 13, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Julian Dean did though.

by Jens on Aug 13, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always nice to "stop by" the PdC

g’night folks. tired after my (very) short ride today.

by perezbike on Aug 12, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

As far as female cyclists go, have you seen the story on Evelyn Stevens?

I think it was in the NY times very recently.

No horn, watch for finger.

by sminer on Aug 12, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

She's still got some work to do

she lost 1’40 on a 15k TT this week. But then European racing is a shock to the men that come over from the States too. She’s bound to improve if she sticks around. She just has to try and get some hints from the Australian girls who are starting to click right now.

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

is it just me

or do the power numbers they give for Stevens in that WSJ article seem low? Or are they missing some massively relevant piece of info like she’s got a 1000 watt top end sprint?

by smaryka on Aug 13, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm no expert on that...

… but I’m not terribly convinced having played tennis necessarily helpd with racing tactics, either.

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

she only weighs 120

so i’m guessing if we did the math, the w/kg would come out pretty good. but i was told there would be no math.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

somewhere over 4.86 w/kg

which puts her in the top ranks of women.

by R Mc on Aug 13, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

i was guessing it would come out around that.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

for the record

I’m no elite! No way, no how. But I weigh 115 and my 5-min peak watts is just under 300 and my 20-min is 260. So my w/kg is pretty close to hers. That’s what made me think something’s missing from that article. I’m a pretty good rider, but nowhere near that good.

by smaryka on Aug 13, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

your w/kg comes out higher than hers then.

So, you must not be entering the right races ;-)

by R Mc on Aug 13, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

no I just suck at sprinting

My 5-sec peak power is a mere 700 :blush:

I do well on hilly courses and longer races, but not on crits (those corners, ouch) or anything with a bunch finish, I just can’t accelerate fast enough. I race here in the UK and there are plenty — and I mean PLENTY — of women ages 16-45 who regularly kick my ass. Part of it is tactics and positioning (I’m still catching on to that), part of it is having a good team around you (at my level, we’re all kind of out for ourselves) and part of it is ability to suffer and/or confidence to attack and hold on for the win (and at 35, I’m just not as fired up as I was 10 years ago…) :)

So again, wish it had been Velonews doing the article instead of the WSJ, it might have contained some more interesting stuff about why Evelyn Stevens is so good. She must have something the rest of us don’t!

by smaryka on Aug 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

She won today's stage in Route de France

Looks like she outsprinted Kim Anderson.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks more like a "you get the stage, I get the jersey" deal

something went horribly wrong for the rest of the field:

1 132 STEVENS Evelyn USA 4h 01’ 05’’ à 00’ 00’’
2 2 ANDERSON Kimberly TCW 4h 01’ 05’’ à 00’ 00’’
3 32 BACCAILLE Monia MIC 4h 03’ 17’’ à 02’ 12’’
4 55 ITURRIAGAECHEVARRI SAFA MAZAGA Eneritz4h 03’ 17’’ à 02’ 12’’
5 96 CORNEO Sigrid MSI 4h 04’ 19’’ à 03’ 14’’
6 63 AZZINI Emanuela GAU 4h 04’ 19’’ à 03’ 14’’
7 92 BOYD Kaytee MSI 4h 06’ 06’’ à 05’ 01’’
8 106 MOCQUERY Magali FUT 4h 07’ 20’’ à 06’ 15’’
9 115 ZABLOCKYTE Egle * USC 4h 07’ 20’’ à 06’ 15’’
10 126 BROUN Kirsty AUS 4h 07’ 20’’ à 06’ 15’’
11 86 LESUEUR Mélodie * ESG 4h 13’ 23’’ à 12’ 18’’
12 34 OLIVEIRA Flavia M. MIC 4h 13’ 23’’ à 12’ 18’’
13 111 UNGURYTE Edita * USC 4h 29’ 34’’ à 28’ 29’’
14 43 VILUNAITE Erika FEN 4h 29’ 34’’ à 28’ 29’’

everyone else who finished came with the group at 28’29" down, and that includes all the team leaders and recognised challengers. It looks like a Pereiro moment for the pack. Nicely done by Columbia.

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa

that’s just odd. see any info around on that?

i’ll check radsport lates.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing but the results

Shane Stokes is writing a few articles for Irish Cycling, but I’m not convinced that he’s actually there. I’m sure that I could come up with something similar looking at the results of each day’s stage.

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Columbia-HTC put something up

here, but there’s no explanation of what happened in the bunch.

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha, way to make me look good girl.

Yea, I mentioned this Stevens girl yesterday because they mentioned how this girl climbs, so I thought she might do well today. So how about them power numbers now people?

No horn, watch for finger.

by sminer on Aug 13, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It sounds like the coming together of a few things

(this is what I have pieced together from a few other sources – it may be totally wrong) first, yesterday’s stage was very long, 150km as opposed to the usual 90-120k they race. Then competition ot get into the break was particularly intense (perhaps because lots of people thought it had a good chance of staying away and they wanted the stage win), so the first hour was ridden quite fast, so everyone was, I guess, all too eager to ease up for a couple of hours. And then most of the big teams had someone in the break, and those that didn’t seem to have decided that they weren’t that likely to get the GC and maybe it was better to save things for another day. Thus the huge gap to the rest of the field.

The riders in the break worked together until about 30k to go when they all started to try to attack each other. The plan was probably to get rid of Monia Baccaille, the Italian champion and the only one there that can sprint as far as I know. Stevens was the one who managed to make an attack stick, then Kim Andersen TTed up to her and the two look like they worked together to the line. Meanwhile tiredness and the long distance started to catch up with the other riders from the break, that’s why there are such massive gaps in the top ten; I wonder how many of those breakaway riders will finish the course today. It’s not quite as long, but still long at 130k and has a lot more climbing. Kim Anderson should be safe, but I think of her as the women’s equivalent of George Hincapie, a great teammate on the road, but always liable to come up with some novel and unexpected ways of screwing up a win.

by Monty. on Aug 14, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good summary

Yesterday’s profile looked to have a lot of up and down in the end which hurts especially given the length.

And yea, Anderson didn’t seem overly confident going into today’s tough stage but given her situation (strong team and time cushion) you would think she’ll hold on for the overall. Anderson seemed a little intimidated by Stevens strength though.

No horn, watch for finger.

by sminer on Aug 14, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

check out Alison Starnes' blog

She’s a great read in general, but this time has outdone herself with a fantastic summary of racing in Europe with Team USA at the Route de France Feminin.
http://alisonstarnes.com/blog/2009/08/10/prologue/
http://alisonstarnes.com/blog/2009/08/10/miss-combativity/
http://alisonstarnes.com/blog/2009/08/14/recaps-of-previous-etage/
http://alisonstarnes.com/blog/2009/08/15/conclusion-finale-done-accomplished/

and http://alisonstarnes.com/blog/2009/08/12/familiar-voices-in-a-far-away-land/ for a great write-up on life as a pro.

The story about the Brazilian kicking the Russian in Stage 4 (the one that Stevens won) is unreal!

by smaryka on Aug 16, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

shame

Your bike doesn't want to crash so relax and let it roll!!!

by perezbike on Aug 18, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

I’d like to know more about women’s racing as well. If that means Liz Hatch getting the ball rolling, I am cool with it.
Guess I kinda dig her but would like to know more other women as well.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to do it again?

by CannonDowell on Aug 13, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

That would be more about women's racing

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to do it again?

by CannonDowell on Aug 13, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking last week of writing something for the Route de France

but like you I just couldn’t find anything to even get close to 75 words.I suspect that there is some TV coverage, if only on the regional news programmes of France3 (which is usually a good thing because anyone can watch them for the next 7 days if you can find them on the website). but I’ve not found it yet. Otherwise there may be what there was for the Boucle, a half hour summary programme on Sport+, a pay channel.

As far as current news from the race, Teutenberg is in yellow, but only 5 seconds ahead of young Aussie Tiff Cromwell. The last two stages today and tomorrow are very climby (profile here – pdf) and Cromwell is one of the better climbers around so has a good chance of winning the GC, especially as all the super climbers ride for Cervelo which isn’t riding this race. She’ll probably stick something up on her website in due course. She’s got a couple of reports from the Giro and Tour de Limousin up now, even if they do read like the sort of thank you letters I used to write to my aunts after christmas.

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 5:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Cycling Australia website has a few articles on the Route de france..

Cycling Australia

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 13, 2009 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tiff Cromwell, Carla Ryan and Vicki Whitelaw

could be the heart of a pretty impressive team at the Worlds. Plus you’ve got a couple of decentish sprinters for years to come when the course isn’t so climby.

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

And a couple more links

Bridie O’Donnell has written a couple of blogs/reports for SBS. They’re good stuff.

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

radsport-news is covering it somewhat

but not in any great detail, unfortunately.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do I see

two copies of his body with one head floating halfway between them?

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I guess why do the pic didn’t show up on the web page. I had to look it up.

by tedvdw on Aug 13, 2009 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

“that’s why the”

by tedvdw on Aug 13, 2009 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

oopsy

the ny guys didn’t have time to check spellings from the transcript, it seems. i corrected bobridge for them, but i didn’t know this one. thanks.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

csf navigare

still get an invite to the tour of britain. sigh.

"at the end of the day, it's only the tour de france."- bradley wiggins (and majope)

by Ben Shave on Aug 13, 2009 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, at least they have slightly more sensible kits this year.

I won’t need to take my sunglasses.

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha this is true

last years was disgusting in the extreme

"at the end of the day, it's only the tour de france."- bradley wiggins (and majope)

by Ben Shave on Aug 13, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clowns spring to mind....

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

The checkered-bib team from the Volta a Portugal

should go on a world tour to bring the message of fuglyness to all people everywhere.

by Jens on Aug 13, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, and their turd coloured cars no doubt!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 14, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're registered in Ireland

Anyone knows why? Their site mixes Italian and English in a interesting way.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

No idea.

Unless they have special tax breaks for dubious cycling teams?

Never understood why Barloworld were nominally British either, even though they were really Italian-South African (I guess they did end up with a Brit or two…)

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hang on.

LPR & Ceramica Flaminia are also “Irish”… tax it must be, then?

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

Given the Irish willingness to attract foreign companies overall I would expect the relevant taxes, like payroll taxes and the employers social security contributions, to be lower than in other countries. Now, tax systems are almost as boring as accounting and there are probably a thousand ifs and buts here, but it makes more sense than that the teams are very eager to ride Tour of Ireland.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are we going to get LPR (minus DiLuca) like last year, too?

Petacchi & DiLuca charming the laydeez of the north east was a joy to behold, a sort of two-stereotypes-for-the-price-of-one bargain basement.

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, I enjoyed them in London too.

At the moment they’re not on the list. The confirmed teams are here: http://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/_ns_teams/

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know...I was wearing a day glow jacket, size extra large!

Hideous.

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone see the Taylor Phinney riding with Allen Colim tweets?

Phinney had posted a couple times that he had been out riding and talking about things with Allen Colim (of Garmin-Slipstream for those who might not know). Should we read anything into this or is this just a case of two guys in Boulder riding together?

by ncmussell on Aug 13, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Taylor is trying to get some information

Like the not so secret recipe for Allen’s race cakes.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

CN posted the preliminary startlist for the Vuelta

Here. I don’t know exactly how preliminary it is. Some interesting stuff, like Vino as reserve for Astana, and strange, that also Brajkovic is listed as a reserve.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually, just to prove how inept I am in posting,

I thought I just made my first fanpost which was the same list that TheFigurehead has posted here. I thought it would make a good new thread, but I appear to have failed in the execution. Thank goodness someone had the sense to post list here. Thank you:)

by Seahorse on Aug 13, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

dammit

I don’t know, maybe it could probably do with a post of its own if you fancy another go? ;-)

(I just do the fanshot thingys cause they’re easy…)

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

it should be it's own post

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 13, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool... of course, i'm behind the times....

the day starts to catch up with me about this time of day, as most of the european exchanges close for the day and i do clean-up work until the last round of e-mails come in (in about 3 hours)….

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 13, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What went wrong?

You need to include 75 words and then just hit post. Er…

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Puter problem?

That’s usually my excuse in these matters. The machines hate me.

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Civetta is kinder :)I am seriously hopeless...

So should it have been a shot? I do think it needs its own thread though. I apologise for my ineptitude.

by Seahorse on Aug 13, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, you can use a fanpost

If you can tell me what went wrong, I can try to help ;-)

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you. I'm thinking that I didn't get to 75 words

I created the link properly. I really don’t know.. I want to learn though because I have a good idea for next Monday. I think it’s good anyway :-)

by Seahorse on Aug 13, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably, it's the 75 words

but usually when you go to post, it will say why it won’t post. So, er, what did it say?

You can always email me for help, if you want. Email in profile.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It appeared to sail off into the ether successfully.

it didn’t say anything that I noticed. So should I have another go? Is TheFigurehead right in thinking it doesn’t need its own thread.

by Seahorse on Aug 13, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it didn't show up?

odd, indeed. do it again. why not, it’ll give us something to chat about today.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm almost never right ;)

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we do need something to talk about.

Things are awfully quiet in these race deprived days….

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on what I read, you nearly always are

but I’ll try just for the practice. Thanks Gavia too

by Seahorse on Aug 13, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought about fanposting it

But then, if the list is very preliminary, obscure and so on. So I posted it here instead.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. What does the poor chap have to do?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It may be

that he has already signed with a new team, and Cervélo is not stoked with that decision. This kind of thing can happen.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh, good point there. I failed to think of that.

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brajkovic at Missouri

So the kid says on the Astana website.

by ursula on Aug 13, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

More from Contador

In an interview today at Marca, Contador says that Caisse d’Épargne is the “most attractive option,” though he has offers from several teams. He praised the team management and said that Caisse is a team “who knows how to work for a team leader.” The Alonso option is apparently too complicated. No mention of Garmin in the article at all.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Pleeez go to Caisse Bert....I'd be really really happy!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeedio

Should we have a whip round? Sponsored silence? Beetle drive?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

My cakes look pretty but taste bad....so as long as nobody eats one, I'm in

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally.

The man in my bike shop finds me hilarious because everything has to match. I don’t see what’s so odd about that!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

matching is key

i mean, if stuff comes in multiple colors, why not match?

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I was looking at new helmets. He kept producing ones for me to try on and I kept turning them down on the grounds that I had no clothes that colour. In the end he asked me what clothes I DID have. But I mean, you can’t go and wear a read helmet with a ciclamino jersey can you? Shudder….

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant a red helmet...

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

thought she only wore white? ;)

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 13, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

she’s bringin’ sexy back

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 13, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

As only a dummy could.

I’d love to know how many pairs they’ve sold.

by Seahorse on Aug 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I’ve bought 10, but that’s just my own, personal taste

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 13, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha! I would so never wear that.

White shorts make your thighs look fat. I have never ever not worn black in my whole entire life.

On a related topic, I was at the ballet tonight…got me thinking: are white tights on men as wrong as white shorts?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only black for me too

White tights… Must admit when I’ve been at the ballet, I’ve only ever thought about them as emphasising assets in a good way. So shallow…

by Seahorse on Aug 13, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know...

…for me, tights on men are wrong, whatever the color :-)

Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill (F. Coppi)

by MathieuG on Aug 13, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrestling tights maybe

but aesthetically, have to say that it’s a great way to show off a great body. And dancers almost always have great bodies.
As I said, shallow :)

by Seahorse on Aug 13, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Years ago, we dutifully took the boy

to see the Nutcracker.

A Principal dancer with white tights and a blue thong led to its being renamed the butt-cracker in our house . . .

by R Mc on Aug 13, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me just say that the thong was a mistake

and especially a coloured one. Although glesh colured tights are a bit creepy

by Seahorse on Aug 13, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bahaha!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 14, 2009 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guessed that ;-)

And yes, male dancers are a joy to behold. I was too far away to examine the effect of the white on the area in question though…

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 14, 2009 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't really matter

though, does it? Fantasies can be very disappointing at close range :)

by Seahorse on Aug 14, 2009 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

There would not have been one...

…this is why male dancers wear what is called a ‘dance belt,’ to eliminate that. Sorry.

You see how calm Vaughters is? That’s because he’s really one giant seething ball of Evil inside. With like, extra Evil.

by Ed K on Aug 14, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that so?

I thought I’d never seen this phenomenon in dancers. Thanks for the insider knowledge ;-)

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 14, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know..

was just trying to keep the fantasy alive

by Seahorse on Aug 14, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

While we're in the snark zone...

Could we have a moratorium on riders announcing doping controls on the twit? Because really, I’m sorta tired of it.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

It's the kind of air of constant surprise that does it for me...

So, the doping testers appeared in Livigno. What? No? Really?

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, yeah

omigod, really, they found you?!

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Wake me up when they tweet stuff like “Hey, that EPO shot really worked out well.”

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah that would be great

“got totally smashed last night, hope sponsor’s not reading”

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Aug 13, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it's like they want us to go

“aaawwww you poor diddums, woken up at 7 again were you? How awful!”

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of us have to get up at that time every single day!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

or 5 hours earlier even

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 13, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you fit in the sleeping thing?

what with starting at 2am and finishing at 10pm

by Monty. on Aug 13, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, no, i'm not up that late. i usually crash out around 9pm....

tho, next week or so i need to start getting up an hour earlier or i’ll never stay ahead of those interim rpts from that strange part of the globe (iceland, denmark, finland, swedan, norway)….

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 13, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a cookie

Or maybe, when I was a kid and went to the dentist, I got a little toy.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got toys? I only got stickers!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say they were funny

It was small planes, cars and stuff like that in plastic.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 13, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

stickers

& those weird tablets that make your teeth go red

by civetta on Aug 13, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh, yes

those were creepy, the tablets.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

lollipops

i think the testers need to bring lollipops

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gummy bears?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Aug 13, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heart me some gummy bears

i think i ate the whole shack stash yesterday, tho

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops.

Then I should stop shouting “Bleed for me, racer boy, yeah!” when I read them?

"It's just a bike race" - Frank Schleck

by Pendleton on Aug 13, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of Portuguese riders in US teams

Garmin seems interested in Tiago Machado (Madeinox-Boavista), but actually it looks like CdE is closer to a deal
http://jornalciclismo.com/?p=8877

by agostinho on Aug 13, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Pualinho

says he signed with The Shack, because he didn’t have too many other offers, and he worried that team rosters were filling up. He also said that he and Contador are still BFF, and that Contador understood his decision.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

ha!

guess that’s better than being a jelly donut.

by Jen See on Aug 13, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh-kay... that's a little creepy

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 13, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

But but but

I posted that earlier …. (snif)

by tedvdw on Aug 13, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's a thought for the road racing calendar....

how’s about we stop lumping a bunch of small races into the same time frame and spread them all out thru the year so that we don’t have to go more than a day or two w/o racing… oh, and live worldwide non-georestricted streaming should be guaranteed

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 13, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Confusion here.

It is alleged by Danish sources like Felte.dk that Lars Ytting Bak is going to Sky, no, Columbia, no what? Actually, it might be rumor warring between Scott Sunderland and Brian Holm.

Mon coeur appartient aux les forçats de la route.

by Josenka on Aug 13, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually

Feltet have had three articles today. First “Lars Bak to Team Sky?”, then “Lars Bak not to Team Sky” and the last one was “Lars Bak to Columbia.” Feltet guessed he was going to Team Sky because Scott Sunderland’s and Carsten Jeppesens involvement, but Sunderland then denied that they had signed Bak.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.