Garmin for the Vuelta
by PopUp Rolen on Aug 26, 2009 8:37 PM EDT
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I don't think the team has made it official yet, but a David Millar CN diary published today details the team's trip to Holland to start the Tour of Spain. Garmin's lineup looks like this:
- Dan Martin
- Tom Danielson
- Tyler Farrar
- Julian Dean
- David Millar
- Ryder Hesjedal
- Christian Meier
- Svein Tuft
- Martijn Maaskant
Top 5 story lines to follow:
1. How the GT rookies fare over three weeks: Dan Martin, Christian Meier and Svein Tuft. I don't expect much from these three guys, and think making to the end is a solid accomplishment.
2. Tom Danielson: Returns to the race that made him.
3. Tyler Farrar: Dominated Eneco, but has not fared as successfully against a full-on Columbia train, albeit one steered by Greipel
4. Julian Dean: I have to think he's riding for a Garmin contract. Unless he ushers Tyler to at least two stage victories, I think he is forced to find employment elsewhere.
5. David Millar: Is he capable of winning races anymore?
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If this is there lineup--
I say BUGGER! I was secretly (or not) hoping for CVV to ride the Vuelta w/ some form after his Giro setback. What about Wiggins oddball pullout from the Eneco ITT? does he have Worlds ambitions and/or was he not risking a slide-out on a rainy TT before a Grand Tour?
by tshawytcha on Aug 26, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wiggins is saving himself for Britain’s answer to the Tour de France, which cuts across the end of the Vuelta.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
by fmk on Aug 26, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the lineup.
Or at least it’s the lineup written on Matt White’s notepad
by civetta on Aug 27, 2009 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CVV's had a long season and I say deserves the break.
I’m not sure where sources were getting the info he was still riding it as that was changed but most places still reported it, even after he confirmed ToM. I’m pretty excited to see him here for the ToM but of course I am pretty biased. :-)
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
by nikki on Aug 27, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since the injury screwed his Vuelta
I think he’s had one of the lighter schedules of all stageracers (on paper) but I’ve heard that these chicagoans are made from a weaker cloth.
by Jens on Aug 28, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying a word
I’ve been at Rigoletto’s all evening.
by Monty. on Aug 28, 2009 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jens, you are lucky you are thousands of miles away. :-P
It is fun having him here though and I’m looking forward to watching him at ToM. :-)
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
by nikki on Sep 1, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could Millar EVER win races?
"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH
by ELVISGOAT on Aug 26, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He has one seven grand tour stages
Not many people can say that. Of course there are obvious question marks with those wins…
by PopUp Rolen on Aug 26, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah. What's he won since?
"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH
by ELVISGOAT on Aug 27, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the wiki say 5GT stages
with 1 coming after his return. So I’ll give him that one, the others… bah!
"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH
by ELVISGOAT on Aug 27, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He came close to a stage win in the Tour.
Personally I see his role as being road captain more than headline generator. I’d look for Dan Martin to steal a stage, if his knee is properly recovered and he hasn’t succumbed to something else already.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
by fmk on Aug 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the Giro of '08.
Until his chain broke.
by brunopitton on Aug 27, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Millar is a big motor behind the Garmin TTT effort
Remember, Garmin concentrates on a finish-with-five TTT strategy. So the pullers are all of the big engines, including the old Mr. Prologue. Millar is a big part of this, so I think he still matters.
by Softie on Aug 27, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think at the Tour
he got it together to play a fairly useful team role possibly for the first time ever.
by civetta on Aug 27, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think he could top 3 in the TT's here
Small course and might have guys building form for the Worlds, so he could very well go top 3.
by ncmussell on Aug 27, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the Tour
Farrar finished ahead of everybody minus Thor and The Dish a few times. Happened in stage 2, 10, 11, and 21. The Columbia leadout train will be tough to beat.
Not to mention Friere. Ciolek. Boonen I guess. Others I’m probably forgetting. I think it’s looking good for Farrar though.
Wenatchee Wonder FTW
by dees ees en drama on Aug 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh you jaded cycling critcs
You mean you don’t believe in the return of the BubbleBoy?
No horn, watch for finger.
by sminer on Aug 26, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who'd have ever thought...
that a PT team (and an American one at that) would field 3 Canucks for a GT and only 2 Americans…
(and 4 Canucks in total in the Vuelta, wow!)
by guidemd on Aug 27, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will some of the Canadian contingent
have to go staff a worlds team at some point?
by civetta on Aug 27, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering their roles on the team
I think they are expected to finish the Vuelta.
Evil Garmin plan to keep Canucks off the podium at worlds!!!
by fancan on Aug 27, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thought:
JV is loading the US national RR champs so they don’t screw up like last year. Since it overlaps with the Veulta, he had to choose the right guys.
by brunopitton on Aug 27, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strange...
Not sure how you call this a comparable roster to the tour. Looks like they stacked it with flatlanders for farrar. If TD or Martin ride into a GC spot, they dont have much for support in the mtns. apparently the assumption is that nobody is going to ride anywhere near the top ten.
by Cycho on Aug 27, 2009 2:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What JV tweeted was that their performance would match the Tourteams
and since the competition is weaker at the Vuelta you can do that with a weaker team I suppose.
by Jens on Aug 27, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a really strong team.
Farrar is the fastest sprinter in the Vuelta. They have 2 good tt and 1 good prologue rider with Tuft and Millar. Hesjedla who could be a good stagehunter and dark horse Dan Martin. I really have no idea what there results were at the Tour expect from the third place of Wiggens but they are going to win stages
by Frinking on Aug 27, 2009 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps he meant in the prologue..?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Aug 27, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My pleasure. You should have pretended you did ;-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Aug 27, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right. Only saw almost nothin of le Tour so little behind the results
by Frinking on Aug 27, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here was me thinking you were displaying a studied (but cool) indifference.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Aug 27, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
psss I'm going to dissapoint you a lot more times! (:
by Frinking on Aug 27, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People who make me laugh aren't disappointing
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Aug 27, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Hesjedal could suprise
as a stage hunter or in GC
by M. Anatole on Aug 27, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In GC? Hmm. there is a lot of competition and I have no idea if he ever have ridden wel in a GC
by Frinking on Aug 27, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
'06 Vuelta
He was hanging around the top 15 for 2 weeks before he abandoned. He has a few more GT’s under his belt now, can climb and TT reasonably well, and without CVV and Wiggins on the startlist, he could be plan B in the unlikely event that BubbleBoy bursts. I think top 20 is within the realm of possibilty, but more likely a good stage result.
by M. Anatole on Aug 27, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the unlikely event that bubbleboy bursts
Just pointing out that BB has that nickname for a history of bursts . . .
It will be an unlikely (to the point of being unprecedented) if Danielson is competitive on GC for all 3 weeks.
by R Mc on Aug 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was trying to be gracious in a snarky way re: TD.
Is there a way to indicate an eye-roll for a word? I meant that TD’s fragility is another reason Hesjedal may have a go at the GC. I wish TD well, but I got Hesjedal on my VDS.
by M. Anatole on Aug 27, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhhh...
TD was 6th in 06 Vuelta. The longer and steeper it is the better for TD.
by Cycho on Aug 27, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only in between health problems.
I don’t think anyone’s calling him BB as a way of accusing him of flaking out. People do occasionally suggest that it’s part mental, but I wonder if maybe he actually is TOO game, and that’s why he overcooks himself.
by JFS_PGH on Aug 30, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I pretty much agree with this analysis
Millar: I don’t think he is expected to win races. He owns a piece of the team so he’s not going anywhere.
Julian Dean: I would have to agree with the bit about JD. He isn’t the same JD that was taking Thor to wins a couple of years back. I think now he’s just trying to ensure he has a ride for next year.
Bubble Boy: same a JD above. This is probably his last chance. If doesn’t do anything now, he’s looking for a continental team next year.
Tyler: He’s the man of the moment. He’s a proven winner so it only makes sense that they back him with a strong team. They might think about picking up a better lead out man next year.
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Aug 27, 2009 2:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Suspect Dean is looking to ride elsewhere next year
he and Tyler don’t click on the road and things will obviously be built around TF next year.
by Jens on Aug 27, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sky for Dean maybe?
Not seen it rumoured but he was at CA before Garmin so a good clean rep for him, he’s anglophone and the team seems to be picking riders from other Commonwealth countries
If he clicks with Swift, Bellis etc. could be a useful leadout man / support in the Classics where I think Sky initially has the best chance
by thebongolian on Aug 27, 2009 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's practically from the Jurassic period, though
It’s not really a good resume line for a washed-up sprinter that you can’t pilot your team sprinter.
by R Mc on Aug 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
quite
Slightly surprised that Dean’s going to the Vuelta; Farrar’s been notably gushing with praise for Chris Sutton lately…
by civetta on Aug 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looked at Sutton as to why he's not at the Vuelta
strangely he has had a lot of racedays but not done either GT this year. Can’t see why ho wouldn’t be at least as fresh as Farrar?
by Jens on Aug 27, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stupid buttons
saw he missed the timecut on Plan de Corones last Giro. Is the problem he can’t survive the climbs?
by Jens on Aug 27, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it seems like he has improved all around this year and even with 65 race days, he should have been able to do la Vuelta
Farrar is going to start every Grand Tour this year and if he finishes the Vuelta he would have ridden almost all of them completely and seeing as he has never ridden a GT up to this year it is quite a feat. And I think you can give exception to the Corones stage last year because it was straight up a hill for 13 k.
I’d chose Sutton over Dean everyday especially since Dean was a bit bitter before the Tour that he hasn’t gotten any chances to ride for himself, not that it would matter any, and being put into the lead out role.
by Vlaanderen90 on Aug 27, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With not knowing anything of course, I would say
Dean is not riding for a Garmin contract. Of course that’s just me.
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
by nikki on Aug 27, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team Canada
Garmin’s Vuelta team is dominated by Canadians with three riders out of nine.
GO CANADA!
by bikenik on Aug 27, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
out
of curiosity who is the canadian road race champion currently?
by save10 on Aug 27, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Fillion
yep, not someone anyone would have expected, some of the riders (well, Meier particularly) were complaining about the course prior that it was too flat and thus not selective enough. The race was actually won by a U23, our rules are apparently clear enough that the U23’s aren’t eligible for the elite title/prizes (unlike the controversy in Aus or the UK at various times…).
Just saw at the CCA website, apparently yesterday they announced a long list of riders for the Worlds team (we get three spots), so, 3 of
Aaron Fillion ON
Svein Tuft QC
Ryder Hesjedal BC
Keven Lacombe QC
Dominique Rollin QC
Michael Barry ON
Christian Meier BC
by guidemd on Aug 27, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
does anybody know out of curiosity again….
are U23’s allowed to race in the US Pro championship race? Worlds (pro, not U23 worlds)?
Also I’ve been really impressed with Hesjedal. He should be getting his Canadian RR champion jersey soon enough. I think his best ride was the TDF TTT where he buried himself keeping up with the Garmin TT experts.
by save10 on Aug 27, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many last chances does Tommy D get?
That poor kid. Never has a racer been burdened with such heavy expectations.
And bravo to all the Canadians! they were passed over for the TdF, so now they can shine.
Tuft has had a tough go of it. He hasn’t ridden to his potential, probably due to major adjustments in his training regime. Ryder is a veteran and Christian a rookie.
And Dom Rollin @ Cervelo is a Racehorse! They have had to restrain him so far. Maybe he is off the leash for this one?
by MavicMoto on Aug 27, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tuft
Didn’t he have a hard time recovering from a crash in De Panne or somewhere?
by civetta on Aug 27, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't remember where and when, just that he hit the deck.
by MavicMoto on Aug 27, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
California initially
was where he had a concussion – then in a Belgian race he hurt his knee (and also I think realized that he wasn’t fully recovered from the concussion yet).
by guidemd on Aug 27, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Garmin
It is said that Kessiakoff and Vansummeren are done deals.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Aug 27, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This would make me so happy I could cry
by Jens on Aug 27, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Danielson is to Tommy as Jonathan Vaughters and sideburns are to the Pinball Wizard.
"As you can imagine, there are better places to have your birthday party than in some village called Mushny Mush Mishme." --The Wisdom of Jens
by Josenka on Aug 28, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thx for post
looks like a very strong team …. sad the Canadians aren’t wearing their national kit
Moo
by Willj on Aug 28, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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