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Vuelta Stage 3 Zutphen-Venlo.............LIVE

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Another day for the sprinters. Ciolek, Boonen, Farrar and Bennati all have the lead within their grasp. Cancellara should lose the jersey today.

GC after Stage 2 here (Click Individual)

Live video links at cyclingfans. Live images from 16:00 CEST (10:00AM US Eastern)

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Evening, just reading about Ballan & BMC

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:06 AM EDT reply actions  

And Hincapie and Kroon

Team on a mission

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know.. thinking he let the cat out of the bag a little bit..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh and Burghadt..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know.. But he has obviously been told the names from somewhere.

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently they do

When the idea of Hincapie was first mooted there was a lot of chat about the amount of money they had to spend

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

CN article

These are the riders going to BMC

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Link here

Ballan

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep have to agree there..

Love Frei.. I do his Facebook group…. he just won king stage at GP Tell..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

You would have had to wait longer for me to do it

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm at school so difficult to multi task.

Searching roosters, booklists, studentthings so you were faster..

by Frinking on Aug 31, 2009 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've spent years at school

My good students always multi task

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

good student

frinkster….who are you kidding…

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you got there

Every teacher needs to be entertained

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are not entertained most of the time..

Most of the desperate why they can not het me to work..

by Frinking on Aug 31, 2009 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you told them you're bored?

Any good teacher sees that as a challenge

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. Boredom.

No problem with attitude if you’re interested.
Attitude problem is so last century ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have refrained fro asking what you're studying...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

*from

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense

but me, I’m thinking you’d make a killing in sports journalism ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, nonono

Not free. Your services are available for a negotiable fee ;-)

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

KOM = ‘sigh’ sports poetry. Lou’s right.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not kidding when I say

that your ‘sigh’ is a significant, albeit small sign, that you have flair

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stripe previous.

Send an email to my secretary Lou. Email found in her profile

by Frinking on Aug 31, 2009 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

But try 'strike' ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely!

eg: completing essays while drinking and socialising at the bar. Very important skill. The Engineering students were the true masters of the art, though. I am sure that their degrees were earnt entirely at the bar…

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Engineers-boofheads!

I love the arty types

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

according to Ballan,
It’s true that BMC is not a ProTour team and has to have invites. But Cervélo showed how it is done this year," he told La Gazzetta dello Sport. “You need to have good riders and the invitations will arrive. BMC also has [George] Hincapie, [Marcus] Burghardt and [Karsten] Kroon, no?”

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

technically

it’s not Sep 1
they should all be fined….

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes i know.. another 3h30min and they would have been ok.. hehe

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I hadn't thought of that.

They can break the news in Australia a day early and avoid the fines.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a bit skeptical about Aussies being ahead of us

Are we sure that they’re not almost a week behind?

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

It has to do with the rotation of the Earth

A concept which most of the world is familiar with. It’s kind of a spherical shape, you see…

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes indeed... So why isn't it happening.. c'mon give us the goss!!

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deep breaths, m'dear. Think calm thoughts :-)

Like you said, it’s still August for three more hours.

And I hate to break it to you, but being realistic- with the timezone difference, you’ll have to wait until tomorrow evening…

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if it's the same in the print version

but in the web version of the Gazzetta article CN are basing their story on, those other names aren’t in a direct quote from Ballan (or aren’t any longer, anyway). Gazzetta seems very keen to talk up Lampre, Cunego staying, Petacchi joining (is it just me or does that not quite do it?), lots of young riders coming through etc. but I wonder if they’re one of the PT teams whose licence is in question & if Ballan really does feel he’ll get better chances elsewhere. Bet the Lampre sponsor’s well pleased after he personally stepped in to keep Ballan in the team.

by civetta on Aug 31, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

what?!

another bunch sprint?
ok, I’m going to bed….back for the final 5K then….

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Second is still good

Are you preparing for Flushing Meadows?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too bloody boring... No really

Can you get any coverage? obviously a big event in the tennis world.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually

can’t even live without IQ!

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

In my experience, noone can live without an IQ

but I’m thinking it has another meaning here.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

bahahaha

Foxtel IQ, digital recorder.

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes!

Now that I want. You know I never forsaw a time when I would be recording a sporting event. Now I want ANOTHER IQ

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

we are in the 21 century

I always love to say that
we have IQ, Tivo, DVD recorder, WDTV….you can do anything you want!

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but you have to understand how to do anything you want

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

one thing you need to know about me

I love technology!

I also have Wii, DSi, Roomba….can’t live without my gadgets…

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you bought a dueling harness for your roomba?

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, don't laugh

What is a Roomba? I’m assuming not a misspelled dance

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's some sort of vacuum cleaner

Plotting to take over the world

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

You understand I may believe you?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome...

…to the Dark side.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Figurehead was joking!

Am i going to look appallingly gullible in print when I say wow?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

rbjhan, trying to drag us into the 21st century again?

I truly cannot fathom why GPS would be in any way necessary…

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok

let’s not go shopping together, deal?

or we might want to murder each other….

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing

that your idea of a wild shopping trip is not a tour of the op-shops, and secondhand bookstores…

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a library person

I don’t buy books, not a lot anyway. unless it’s textbooks.

my ideal kind of shopping trip would be going to JB Hifi, EB Games & Harvey Norman….

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

you would be getting that vacuum thing

to work around the hundreds of books I own. Electronics shopping in Tokyo is exciting even to me

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

only problem is I don't read Japanese!

otherwise I would have bought Professor Layton 2&3 long time ago!

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

They have English instructions

albeit very strange ones.
I even managed to set the timer on my air conditioning when I lived there.
I’m thinking that with your knowledge of characters, you’d cope – especially if a Luddite like me can.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah yes

the meanings are more or less the same…

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

So pencil in Akihabara

Heaven on a stick for ‘gadget geeks’

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's an op-shop?

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

A shop run by a charity (usually)

Selling whatever folks have donated. Clothes, furniture, books, anything

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks--hadn't seen that term for them.

Thrift shops is what we usually call them here.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, yes

That’s it. I was trying to think of your term for it. Oh, and “op-shop” is short for “opportunity shop”.

Wonderful places! I have even bought some fabulous mineral specimens at my local one :-)

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Call me when they invent a steamer

that will find and clean cat pee on its own.

Oh, the joys of having a 17-year-old cat…

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very low gadget IQ

Good on books ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weird I know, but I don't even know about Foxtel

All those white sports ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

What, you don't have normal toilets in Australia?

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

hello.

hmmm
I’m thinking you must be speaking from personal experience…

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

This flushing meadows thing sounded strange

You work in the sewage business then.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm waiting for seahore

to tell me our conversation is odd…..

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, no children involved

Toilet humour is universal

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes revolting...

And I promise yesterday was just a feeble attempt at humour

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but

why do you think TheFigurehead is not suitable for children? heh heh

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bwahaha

Very quick!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

That was you, not me.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hesitate to call you children

but get your stories straight ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just did ;)

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

The last word?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morning all!

More cobbles today, yay! Unless you’re an Andalucia rider then i’m sure it’s more arghhh :/

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions  

ok I have to ask

have you been reading Blazin Saddles?

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Err, no....should i have been?

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps the most confused were the riders from second-tier Spanish outfit Andalucia-Caja Sur. These flat, cobbled roads through woodland and housing estates in North West Europe are clearly not what they signed up for when opting to compete in their national Tour.

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh!

No, I hadn’t read that, but I did see a thing with a couple of their guys saying they had no idea what to expect. I feel sorry for them, it’s no wonder about 6 of their riders came down yesterday :/

My favourite quote was from Valverde though, said perhaps he’ll do Paris-Roubaix next year since the cobbles weren’t that bad. Hah, i think he was joking….we’ll see

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like there jerseys... Can you buy them...

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

Sure somewhere sells them :S

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

On today's stage....

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, strange, i got told there were cobbled sections today

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Confusion. Think it was yesterday. Others thought it was today...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeh.

I got told that ProCycling listed it as having cobbled sections but i dont have my copy handy to check, it’s packed away somewhere inside my car ready to move house!

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think cobbles were over yesterday

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

ProCycling

St 3. Route analysis:

This stage could change depending on the weather. If it’s fine, the riders will tackle a number of cobbled sections but these will be bypassed if it’s inclement. Apparently, the organizer’s don’t want to make things too stressful. What’s next? Mid-stage counselling? The cobbles should spice up this flattish stage. A final bunch sprint looks likely.

by Bruce Suomi on Aug 31, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beautifully done!

So can we assume weather is fine?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the funny counselling stuff is yours, right?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Jens! was racing

I’d think it was a direct quote from him

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah thanks for that! Awesome

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the PdC Hottitude ladies, Here is the answer from Rory..
Here’s Benna. Yes, PdC girls, they are aware

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 7:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I just read that

Haha, not really surprising. Bet they love it really ;)

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were obviously reading the post where we were discussing it...

LoL.. Well we did send him the link…

LoL.. Well we did send him the link…

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hereby resolve

never to mention again that Benna’s eyes are too close together.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

LoL... Thats funny...

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh there will be many..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best to act as if there is no audience :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh, like I said in that thread

we’re not exactly an obscure little spot on the web- cycling-wise, anyway

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but can Cav read?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tsk

Trying to provoke a response now, m’dear?

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, engineers were my only fishing expedition

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Luddite here

And english teacher. I have both limits and prejudices ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Characters/letters

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good lord

how frustrating that must be

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank god for that1

Life can’t be lived in shorthand

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Tears the heart out of language

(At least i knew what you meant).

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

So long as you read the odd novel too :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

No! Try 'Jasper Jones'

new novel by Craig Silvey. I’m betting you like it

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually

I read non fictions most of the time.

history, travel books, sports….

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't.

Economy of expression & all that.

by civetta on Aug 31, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quite

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

So are you taking the piss?

I really meant it yesterday when I said I love ‘quite’. It’s an option, that as an Australian is closed to me, but it’s ‘cool’.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'm not

I was trying to like illustrate the point :) hmmm… but maybe “indeed” would’ve been better

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, stick with 'quite'

It’s magnificent in its understatement.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great thing is we're all entitled to an opinion :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

If anyone cares there's a breakaway trying to get away...

Jesus Rosendo (Andalucia-Cajasur), Lars Boom (Rabobank) and Johnny Hoogerland (Vacansoleil)…love that dude’s name.

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 7:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Ohh the race.. yeah thanx....

Se what happens when the Lime green get in our head..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a confession: I hate lime green!

I feel better now…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice, but not my fave

Cancellara, Kloden, Hincapie: Tall and not too pretty

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok

I like the first two.

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hhmm May Fav doesn't wear lime green either..

But the Lime green won the Hottitude Team of the year.. and it’s there honour until next year…

and there are a few that Lime Green suits them well..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're welcome to the honour

but my heart lies elsewhere

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's the beauty though

Between us all we pretty much love all cyclists, so no-one gets left out! :)

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the guy with the yappy dog.

I would feel worse for him, though, if he didn’t have a gorgeous wife at home.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

seahorse!

your support is needed.

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leave him (Cuddles) alone

As a ‘nation’ we have unrealistic expectations and the poor little bastard actually tried to live up to them. He’s difficult and embarrassing, but he’s ours. i’m sending him on a ‘tough love’ camp with O’Grady, McEwen and Rogers’ He’ll be alright then ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why will he get a voice transplant there? ;)

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Helsy, rack off! ;)

Can’t think of anything smart

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hehe :P

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mmmm

Klodi’s a bit too scrawny. Weird thing… a man’s gotta weigh at least 15kg more than I do, preferably more than 20. Tony and George – no problem!

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm the queen of brown eyes. Always a sucker

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Helsy, when you tell us to care, we care

Ticker queen, remember? We just need to be reminded.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a reason for this outpouring of patriotism?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boom-Boom is in the break.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, break of the day=sorted!

So i can now do things until video time

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey all!

majope I’m not by the computer all day , can you make sure these yappy aussies have a second thread when there is actual, you know, racing to discuss?

by Jens on Aug 31, 2009 7:32 AM EDT reply actions  

But it looks good

24 hour chat. The fact that it’s banal is irrelevant ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which reminds me...

… where the hell is Flatbagger these days?

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

last thing I remember

he was scared off by the July tourists.

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Out bagging flats?

think he got a bit irked at the Tour-hooligans

by Jens on Aug 31, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I barely know (of) him

but I’ve wondered(Worried)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmm yes

I’m very happy now that we are back to normal!

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you let me stay

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

alright, now I'm traumatised :(

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not traumatised

And don’t you dare. What did I ever do to you to deserve such a thing?

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

That or the red shorts

Personally, I opt for the red shorts. At least I can laugh my way past the trauma

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

But laughing is better than screaming

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll send him a friendly reminder...

He has been missing in action…

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Aug 31, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

As i said, i don't really know him

but I think it’s worth noting

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure.

Where would we be without the yappy aussies first thing in the morning? I’ve come to depend on them as much as coffee to wake me up.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've decide it's like a job

Shift work: we’re on the afternoon. The Northern Hemisphere in general takes over around midnight.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

I wake up in the morning, check the Cafe and think to myself ‘Geez, those buggers can talk!’

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we do well in our timeslot ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

And us euros can sit back

and watch the poor sods in the colonies do the work. Just like the good old times. [sniff]

by Jens on Aug 31, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could you please disregard sycophancy?

But Jens, you always make me laugh, but I’m not witty enough to keep up.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you're getting there. I won't. Journalism is your true major ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to let you know...

I realise they’re not always synonymous, but wit is usually a great indicator of ability. I stand by what I said.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bullshit.

I know of what I speak. It’s how I make my living

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Knew that would get your attention.

Crude but effective

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not claiming that

but your writing is effective. You grab people’s attention – without swearing.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yours attention!

Those American dissed me and didn;t purt my well written Prologue ’summary’on the frontpage.. Communists! (:

by Frinking on Aug 31, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

We always claimed they didn't have a sense of humour

Editing can fix the little things, but you can’t write in wit

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, YOU do it naturally

an editor can’t do it for you

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Think bigger!

Does everyone here recognise your writing style? Yes.
You’re half way there

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

But.. If you are really good..

They laugh at you and they do recognise the masterwork a few decades after you died

by Frinking on Aug 31, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

forget Van Gogh

That’s really not always true. It’s about having a voice. I don’t think anyone here would deny that yours is strong

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew Jens is American!

He writes English too well for being a real Euro…
:D

by Bruce Suomi on Aug 31, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he wrote so well

he must be a Finn

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha!

But Jens was too busy sharping his knives. Cant blame him

by Frinking on Aug 31, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or his pens?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not just us!

It’s never just us! Frinking is usually involved as well…

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok ok , forgot to add

……not that there’s anything wrong with that.

by Jens on Aug 31, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't blame me..

ýou are the trouble making! ;)

by Frinking on Aug 31, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

We consider Frinking one of the 'girls'

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always knew he loved the hottitude threads really

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's hiding now ...traumatised

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

He *ought* to take it as a complement

And anyway, my gender is indeterminate…

by Lou... on Aug 31, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nup, you 'came out' Remember girl?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that means you're really one of the girls

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

well played!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

But not Tony

World Championships anyone?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good move by Rabo

they need to do something on these dutch stages and this way they don’t have to chase the break for an outside chance for Freire.

by Jens on Aug 31, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Oscar can do tomorrow maybe?

or is it too much for him? I haven’t studied the profile yet….

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

So are these real climbs or acne?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's rather classics like

with Cauberg and St Nicolas on the menu.
but finish is quite flat as far as I can see…

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

finish is rather flat

if he can get over St Nicolas….

by rbjhan on Aug 31, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

So someone is paying attention.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're so 21st century.

The race doesn’t really begin until we get live pictures.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've decided that my crappy feeds mean I'm only semi-live

I was referring to the peloton , but you’re right, seeing is believing in the twenty first century :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

140km to go, gap's going back up again, nearing 10 minutes again

"When he accelerates, he's like Superman emerging from the telephone booth!" La Gazzetta journo Paolo Condo talking about Edvald Boasson Hagen.

by Helsy33 on Aug 31, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah yes, I just read Vlaanderen90's race thread about it.

Thanks to Vlaaderen for the breakdown. And good for George! He needed that.

by Spot of Bother on Aug 31, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing thread. Lots of work and great typing skills.

Seriously ZoeRochelle, how could we come here and miss Big George?
Great result by the way ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even looking at that hurts.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch indeed.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a second thread ready to go, I'm just waiting for the video to start.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the same thing

As a man tapping his watch while waiting for his wife to get ready.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Aug 31, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

*rolls eyes * (but then, that’s a stereotype, too)

by civetta on Aug 31, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, then

MOVE TO SECOND LIVE THREAD HERE

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Aug 31, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Bruce

Just turned it on

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Aug 31, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

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