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Jens falling down on the job.....again


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A good Police song to be sure.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jens was on break

which as a swede he has every right to

by yeehoo on Sep 19, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Those people get more breaks

than Chris Horner.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but jens provides links

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now, be nice about Jens

He does a fine job in general. And can even spell Woolloomooloo these days…

by Lou... on Sep 19, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but where is his competition?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all these lovely walled cities

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

evans 2nd, +9

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he gets rewarded for not quitting

when the mountain stages started

Moo

by Willj on Sep 19, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vaughters clearly has the sacrifice thing down now.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Sep 19, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

He’s figured out that you need to use the proper variety of ’becco, then all is good.

You see how calm Vaughters is? That’s because he’s really one giant seething ball of Evil inside. With like, extra Evil.

by Ed K on Sep 19, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That or... humm...

…he wouldn’t be sacrificing Tom Danielson’s chances of winning a race, ever? Would he?

You see how calm Vaughters is? That’s because he’s really one giant seething ball of Evil inside. With like, extra Evil.

by Ed K on Sep 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking good for Millar!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

samu!!!

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

av givng his all

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish they'd give it back

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I happy I go home now

Moo

by Willj on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Have dinnar with my family.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Sep 19, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

evans 36.02?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Vino still kicking around or did he drop out?

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dropped out.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who?

The first cyclist to stand up to him. And he did it in silence.

by flying dog on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

I still think Johan’s a prick though.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give that man

a toy snow leopard!

by Lou... on Sep 19, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why settle for a toy when

I’ve got the real think in the backyard?

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that like saying

I prefer plague to cholera?

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hehe

I hate Cholera (gives me shivers)

Moo

by Willj on Sep 19, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about a shunning? Would you like that better?

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There will be no shunning

of out third Cult member!

by Lou... on Sep 19, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could never truly shun Will

His pictures and climbing exploits bring me much joy.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got my Vino bum tattoo

way before he was a known doper … so I am staying loyal

Moo

by Willj on Sep 19, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(rethinks shunning).........

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of vino...
Following up on the AST remnants, UCI has declared that it won’t allow Vino to become DS. They will withdraw the PT licensewhen that happens. According to Pat, “Vino is a cyclist, and he isn’t on the course list to follow a training for DS and managers. It is impossible that he will lead the team”,

reported in de Telegraaf

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(nodding)

Like Vino could be a worse tactician than anybody on Lotto? Or Dirk Demol?

I don’t like Vino much but that’s just ridiculous.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you need to pass a ds course that the uci runs and certifies.... that was announced quite a while ago

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The UCI actually runs courses?!

Oh dear god that can’t be good. I can’t see the UCI making a decision on Astana team leadership until 2013, unlike Bert who believes the UCI will “play a key role” in figuering out Astana’s future(via VN). Man Bert has a lot to learn when it comes to the UCI
-RESTATED!

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Sep 19, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so are the rules

enforced consistently …. I assume every DS has taken this course?

Moo

by Willj on Sep 19, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a new thing

Proposed at least, maybe even made official, but not in effect yet.

by tedvdw on Sep 19, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

samu 2nd +5

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

samu 35.58

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a great ride by Sammy

Even better one by Millar. Good on him.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

watch the clocl

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did a crazy attack

then got caught and dropped and went home

by yeehoo on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

vino, that is

was supposed to be reply to drew

by yeehoo on Sep 19, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're kidding?

A crazy attack? By Vino? I didn’t see that coming.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

clock

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

av +36

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

av wins the vuelta

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For now.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Sep 19, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the spirit :-)

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

samu 2nd, evans 3rd\

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Garmin

ends up having quite a nice tour.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

& well done Mr Millar too

three stages for Garmin, despite losing half their team

by civetta on Sep 19, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Luckily they kept the good half

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool sword! Crazy prize though.

The first cyclist to stand up to him. And he did it in silence.

by flying dog on Sep 19, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why a crazy prize? they're in toledo after all... ever heard of toledo steel?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really easy to transport across borders ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, for one thing: as Matt pointed out

it’s going to be hell to get through Customs.

Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler

by majope on Sep 19, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I parsed that as

gonorrhea. I think I’d better go to bed now.

by Lou... on Sep 19, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Done good. Played strong!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good idea

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Girona, yes

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bad typo

I blame the time!

by rbjhan on Sep 19, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not really... just need the right paperwork... easiest to have it shipped

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

^^^^^

lifetime member of the NSA, I bet.

by Sui Juris on Sep 19, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!

i love how ready with the answer she was there.

by gavia on Sep 19, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about a golden egg? Ever hear of the Mudhens? They're in Toledo after all.

The first cyclist to stand up to him. And he did it in silence.

by flying dog on Sep 19, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Must admit, a sword wouldn't be a big thrill for me

no matter who made the steel. (Well unless it was Paul Revere).

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seahorse, seriously?

Everyone digs a nice, well-made sword…

by Lou... on Sep 19, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking figuratively and at this time of night, I agree ;)

But if it’s Toledo steel it smacks of Edward Scissorhands

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I’ll take the non-fighting one, although Johhy Depp would be fine ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damascus sword would be nice....

or a real japanese kitana

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a scottish claymore would be cool

i got hubby a chinese double bladed sword set several years ago

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 19, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And a nice piece of Toldeo steel for his trouble

That’s an awesome prize.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sort of

Here and here, but neither give you a good look of the sword itself.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Sep 20, 2009 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same as your first one but bigger (although it appears just blown up) http://www.daylife.com/photo/00Fv8G1bHx7L2
A different one, best view of the sword so far: http://www.daylife.com/photo/0cZf7QDgTVaNO

by tedvdw on Sep 20, 2009 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sword fight!

nicely done, david!

by discolite on Sep 19, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good question

He’s had lots of 2nds to be sure.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep - his results as listed on garmin site

2009 Results:

TTT Tour de France – 2nd Stage #4
TTT Tour Méditerranéen – 2nd Stage #2
5th Stage #18 Tour de France
Paris-Nice – 5th Stage #1
Volta ao Algarve, 10th overall

2008 Results:

Tour de France, 3rd, stage 4 ITT, 5th stage 20 I

"We know what the cycling fans want. They love the mountains, and they will have mountains" Javier Guillén - Vuelta Race Director

by andrewp on Sep 19, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice hat on Millar!

Good to see an old-time cycling cap rather than an ugly baseball-style visor.

by GreylockGrinder on Sep 19, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Sep 19, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Greylock

Are you grinding up Mt Greylock anytime soon?
Come visit me!

by MavicMoto on Sep 19, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm laid up w/ bad sciatic issues in my right leg.

Been flat on my back on Prednisone for five days.
Finished ToMo and haven’t walked since!?
Race is in doubt.

Thanks for the offer.

by MavicMoto on Sep 19, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gah! I hope it resolves soon.

Neither sciatica nor prednisone are any fun at all.

by GreylockGrinder on Sep 19, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude,

have you ever tried Active Release Technique for the issue? I’ve used it with great success for years, keeps me on my bike year round.

ART

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 19, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know of ART

never had work done personally
But saw their work at Hi Ironman, Very impressive !!
They were fixing people who had exhausted all other remedies. Badly over-trained & injured racers were delighted.
I’ll look up my local provider.
Thanks Drew

by MavicMoto on Sep 19, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You bet

I hope it works for you as well as it’s worked for me. Good luck.

I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?

by Drew... on Sep 20, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well deserved win by Valverde

He survived his ‘bad’ day and CdE happened to be the strongest team…

Some people are born to be spectators, some people are born to make a spectacle and some are born to be mere fans.

by Chainring on Sep 19, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now the question is

Can he hold his form for the Worlds? One thing that’s noticeable here is that he raced very conservatively.

by ursula on Sep 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully NOT!

I would actually like to see the world champ kit on the road next year.

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Sep 19, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have just three things to say to you

TOUR….OF…POLAND!!!!!!!!

Dammit Elk! I don't care if it's your mating season, you are disturbing my peaceful sleep! Just STFU!

by Phil H. on Sep 20, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah right

such an important race! move over la vuelta.

I’m just feeling sorry for his ds, err, you know, the vds ones.

by rbjhan on Sep 20, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if that concerns him at all

Spain is loaded with talent for the worlds. De Santos might decide to spread the love and either setup Freire for a record 4th title win or make Samuel’s live miserable by having to choose between world and olympic champ kits for every stage ;).

Some people are born to be spectators, some people are born to make a spectacle and some are born to be mere fans.

by Chainring on Sep 19, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, that's an easy one for SamSan

Rainbow stripes on a gold background

"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck

by Hons on Sep 19, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Vuelta related but has anyone realized Sella has returned to racing already?

I just say he was on the startlist for the GP Industria & Commercio di Prato tomorrow and then checked cq only to find that he has already done a few one day races in Italy lately. Can’t believe he is already allowed to race…pfffft.

"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel

by Phil H. on Sep 19, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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