Vuelta Stage 10: Post-Stage Thread
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 8, 2009 11:25 AM EDT
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It was always a bit too flat to be a hometown parade for leader Alejandro Valverde, but a four-man escape made hash of the expected sprint, treating the fans to a long-running slalom and eventual sprint, won by Simon Gerrans. Results:
- Simon Gerrans, Cervelo
- Ryder Hesjedal, Garmin
- Jakob Fuglsang, Saxo Bank
- Alexandre Vinokourov, Astana
No big change to the overall...
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Does Garmin have some weird frat boy pledge going on?
Aiming for the record of most seconds in a season?
Thought Big George was a Garmin teammate
So they wanted to put him in second place on GC for that one stage in the TdF.
Wenatchee Wonder FTW
by dees ees en drama on Sep 8, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously
it had nothing to do with the fact that George in yellow would have been a big help to their main GC rivals.
Wenatchee Wonder FTW
by dees ees en drama on Sep 8, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
They're just having fun out there...
No pressure from JV.
by Spot of Bother on Sep 8, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
JV has other projects.
I think he enjoys turning time trialists and trackstars into Grand Tour contenders which has been successful with Vande Velde and Wiggins but Danielson might be the eternal fixer-upper…
"As you can imagine, there are better places to have your birthday party than in some village called Mushny Mush Mishme." --The Wisdom of Jens
On the Tour of Missouri video yesterday they couldn't get the flags on the screen caps right.
It was funny. They kept changing.
The race thread stopped working altogether for me! Totally clogged.
Phew that Vino didn’t win, bah that Fuglsang didn’t win. Gerrans was always the favourite there i think…chapeau to him.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
"Expected sprint"
This is what I’m saying about expected sprint stages at this Vuelta and who’s gonna win the Green jersey in Madrid. Tomorrow’s expected sprint will also probably be won in a breakaway, leaving Greipel with another lost chance. There’s just very very few stages that any sprinter will win from here on. Meanwhile the GC guys will have at least as many chances to win stages with very few able to keep up with them.
not as if he hasn't won it before
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Tomorrow is an expected sprint stage?
looks like a perfect break day, two tough climb and a day before those 3 days of hell. Today was never going to be a sprint chance for most sprinters either with that tough climb so late in the stage. The sprinters have 4 more stages, the climbers have 4 more. Stage 18 is a toss-up, probably break day. The climbers are already 40 points down on Greipel, and it’s more likely there will be breaks succeeding on the mountain stages than sprint stages. Plus many of the top sprinters will be out by stage 15, leaving a great chance for Greipel to get some stage wins. The GC guys don’t really care about points jersey, while Greipel has it as a top goal. Coulmbia has nothing else to race for so they will make sure those sprint stages end in sprints, while cdE doesn’t mind a non threatening break succeeding on a mountain day.
"On a personal level, I have never had admiration for him and I never will"
~AC about LA, me about Johan "drama queen" Bruyneel
wasn't Gerrans the guy who was called back for Sastre at the Tour? and lost a fairly
certain stage win?
He wasn't selected for the TDF
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Giro I think
…. in a group of two against someone who was totally cooked (and went on to win).
Plus Carlos didn’t need the help anyway
Amateur hour, big time
It wasn't Gerro called back
although he did win a stage at the Giro
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
gerrans now has a stage win in each gt....
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
That was Pauwels
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Oh right, he wasn't at le Tour.
Gerrans won Stage 14 at the Giro this year, le Tour last year. My bad.
by Spot of Bother on Sep 8, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
dead right - can only remember one Cervelo rider at a time
oddly, the screenshots in my memory have the rider in white, which cant be right cos they only changed their kit for the tour
Cobo didn't get in with the other GC top 10,
Valjavec back in to top 10.
Strong work Gerrans.
Too bad that Drew gets some Ed Liga points.
"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH
...
Gerrans has 3 wins i 3 different GT.
1.Prato Nevoso TdF 2008
2. San Luca at Giro 2009
3. Murcia at Vuelta 2009
Top 10s...
The top 10 today:-
1) Simon Gerrans (Cervello) 3:56:19
2) Ryder Hesjedal (Garmin)
3) Jakob Fuglsang (Saxo Bank)
4) Alexander Vinokourov (Astana)
5) Adam Hansen (Columbia) +0.29
6) Francisco Perez (Caisse d’Epargne) +0.31
7) Christophe Riblon (AG2R) +0.37
8) Karsten Kroon (Saxo Bank) +0.39
9) Arnaud Gerard (Francaise des jeux)
10) Matteo Tossato (Quick Step)
The top 10 on GC after today:-
1) Alejandro Valverde (Caisse d’Epargne) 40:26:41
2) Cadel Evans (Silence-Lotto) +0.07
3) Robert Gesink (Rabobank) +0.36
4) Tom Danielson (Garmin) +0.51
5) Ivan Basso (Liquigas) +0.53
6) Samuel Sanchez (Euskaltel-Euskadi) +1.03
7) Damiano Cunego (Lampre) +2.04
8) Ezequiel Mosquera (Xacobeo Galicia) +2.24
9) Haimar Zubeldia (Astana) +3.01
10) Tadej Valjavec (AG2R) +3.13
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
Thanks Helsy!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Still early IMO
Definitely Valverde and Evans, very probably the top 6, and I could imagine Mosquera getting a break in the mountains coming up, so I’d say still the top 8.
definitely!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Definitely think top 3 at least
Lots of big hills and mountaintop finishes left. Definitely favors the top three and I give Gesink a chance to get up there since I think he is a better climber than the first two.
It's got to be the entire top six...
One minute is nothing considering the mountain stages coming up.
The top two are always prone to crack. Valverde’s One Bad Day, Evans’s composure. I could still envision Cunego and Mosquera, but they are long shots as tey have to pass six different people.
Wenatchee Wonder FTW
by dees ees en drama on Sep 8, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Cunego is saving it for worlds
So probably don’t expect him to go balls to the wall.
Did we ever figure out who Euskie rider was?
The first cyclist to stand up to him. And he did it in silence.
Right. And we're seeing ghosts on our computers.
The first cyclist to stand up to him. And he did it in silence.
ahem, ES screen showed it was Ruben Perez...
Do you mean their ticker? And like Bruce said, our comeentators knew who it was.
Well. Where were you when we needed you?
The first cyclist to stand up to him. And he did it in silence.
posting the info;)
maybe you just didn’t notice it
You're right. Or at least I need to pay better attention. Thanks.
The first cyclist to stand up to him. And he did it in silence.
In general terms I like that top 10 a lot
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
I agree
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Ah, there's Benna in his hideous sunglasses
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Awwww! Helsy, did you like that? ;-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Not only did Valv have his wife, parents and kids there...
Luis Leon Sanchez was also there :) Yay!
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
I didn't get any of Luis sadly :(
Hoping i can pick some up for my blog from various websites.
I did get some screens of Valv and the kids though, not greaaat quality, just gonna start cropping and uploading them ;)
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
Yes, Mula :)
That’s how he and Valv go waaay back, been training together for years.
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
Also, not that anyone ever seems to remember...
But JJ Rojas is from Cieza in Murcia, everyone forgets him though :(
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
Haha, it wasn't a dig at you...
More at Eurosport. They were talking about riders from Murcia, barely remembered LuLu and totally forgot JJ!
Not to mention they can’t ID Erviti or talk about him if i paid them. Sorry, i’m a bit argh with them right now
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
understandable
Matt is much better. I strongly suggest you try Universal.
although it was very funny on the podium today,
he was like, ah the kid is very cute…oh the other one is also very cute….oh they really look alike…..
I was laughing so hard :)
Haha, well they are twins Matt ;)
Hmm i could, but i’m paying for eurosport and the picture quality is so much better :/
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
He was probably reading his notes
and thinking, ‘Why don’t I know this?’
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Hehe!
Did he work out their names? I was using universal (as usual Eurosport decided podiums aren’t necessary when you can show more tennis!!!) but i hate it muted…
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
He's nothing if not prepared
Once he’s mastered surnames, he’ll take over the world! (of cycling reporting) ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Call him up and ask him for a job
We’ll give you a reference ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Some great faculties for your uni work
crap climate and rbjhan! Helsy, you’re set. ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Uni stuff sounds good
But if i was working on the cycling scene i probably wouldn’t bother..
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
Hmm i've always fancied visiting...but living..
I’m not one for a hot climate..
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
The point is that Melbourne's not
Lovely city, but the climate is too cold for me ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yes but cold to you is probably hot for me
Where i come from is on the North East coast so very windy and usually not warm :P
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
doesn't follow
I love the sun & heat & crave it terribly in summers like this. Even when I was in Italy this year it was bad weather. :-(
Helsy, your knowledge of the Spaniards is encyclopaedic
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That's one of those irregular verbs...
I take a keen interest in things
You are obsessive
He is round the twist
But my definition works better for a ticker queen ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oh I'm not forgetting Rojas...Spanish boys are nice ;-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Do you know what happened? Mechanical?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That sounds bad. Even 8.33
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I think it was a flat
He was sitting on the top tube by the side of the road, last I saw him. Didn’t look like a crash.
He must be really bummed
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yes, it has the sniff of Tony and the bike chain.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Damn.
Bad luck. Why are the milk gods unhappy with Milram this year, anyway?
Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler
Just read the Velo report which said he crashed
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yes, i know they're not top drawer
but yep, that’s their story ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I read 'em all
Well that’s obviously not true, but I actually like Dailypeloton, although their news is a bit slow.None of them are overrun with great journalism, so I have a chookyard approach: a little peck here, a little peck there…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
try other languages
I know google translate can be painful
but still much better than reading VN or CN!
That wasn't a criticism
it was a question ;-)
In this case, I think they’re probably wrong. If Gerdemann had crashed it would be a ginormous headline on the German sites ;-)
No worries.
Was laughing at myself. I am a journalism snob, except when i want to know immediately, then I’m pathetic…any port in a storm ;)
Too true about german sites. That hadn’t even occurred to me
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Gerdemann did crash...He recieved a wheel change after the flat and then about a corner after that he crashed...
In this case they are not wrong, because more sites are picking up on it. He would have most likely won the stage if it wasn’t for the incident….
Si
Also on the team site:
On the descent of the Alto de la Cresta del Gallo, Linus Gerdemann had his bad luck with a mechanical defect. On the small road, neither a neutral service wagon nor service motorcycle could quickly come to his aid. When Linus Gerdemann finally got a new front wheel from one of the neutral wagons, this repair caused him to crash on the next curve. At that point it was too late for the 26-year-old to have a say in the stage’s outcome.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Sep 8, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
But I think the new wheel & crash came after we saw him on the side of the road, no? Gotta be, he wasn’t that far in front.
I think so
The achtervolgers couldn’t have been more than 20 secs or so behind.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Sep 8, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
For some reason
That was the first word that popped up in my head.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Sep 8, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe it is that Linus doesn’t know how to put a front wheel on his own bike.
by ManBicycleThing on Sep 8, 2009 8:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Question - why did the Everyday boys not bother to chase down the break?
It was only (he says from the comfort of his arm chair) a Cat 2 – and even Cav can get over them. Couldn’t Greipel plus support make it?
As ursula says, its not like there are many chances for a sprint, so if he wants the points jersey he needs to be aggressive…
Yeah, even I was a bit surprised about that
A couple of possible explainations:
Columbia doesn’t seem nearly as focused on helping Greipel as they do Cavendish. Perhaps,
Greipel just can’t climb and/or is not feeling well (doesn’t have it in his legs) or the team just isn’t as focused on Greipel what with seeing Hansen today on the break when he could have been a great help over that last cat 2.
It’s pretty clear that they don’t want to lead the peloton chase unless it’s totally flat. Further clues might come after the next rest day if other Columbiaites abandon the race.
Si
I think this Vuelta is a harder race for the sprint teams overall than the Tour. The Tour is raced harder, but the flat stages are really flat. Also, these last few days of mountain stages were a bit silly – there were no seven climb death march stages in this year’s Tour. No doubt some of the riders are feeling the heat also, though Southern France was not exactly cool this July ;-)
I was surprised to see them let the break roll, but that final climb was not an easy one by any means. Figured it could go either way, depending on the legs and motivation in the sprint teams.
I know!
You can see them bigger if i post the link…
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a182/helsy33/random-53.jpg
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
Psst--not necessary.
The link is there in the post. We just have to right-click and we can get it a number of different ways (View Image, Properties, Copy Image Location).
Throughout the stage all I kept on thinking was: ‘don’t finish second, you can’t finish second again’.--Heinrich Haussler
Ohh, in that case thanks!
I didn’t know that, that can be my new thing i’ve learned today :)
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
Those are his kids?
Darn, I thought it was a very odd podium gift
This pic has something for everyone
Somehow he's even hotter with the kids. I like men who are good with children :-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
Thanks Helsy!
Reports are describing the win as ‘plucky’. That’s what you get for being small :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I agree... and he's such a sweety.
When Stuey retires it will be Gerro who assumes his mantle
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
McEwen and evans are respected for their palmares and in Cuddles' case
for charity and political stuff, but the good guys: Stuey and Gerro ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Hey, his green grills were awesome!
"As you can imagine, there are better places to have your birthday party than in some village called Mushny Mush Mishme." --The Wisdom of Jens
I dare to say
that I am having more fun with the vuelta than with the tour.
Your bike doesn't want to crash so relax and let it roll!!!
If I had a better feed, I'd agree completely
Love the fact that it’s not nearly as predictable
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
or LA for that matter
Although I do miss Klodi’s bum:)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
what exactly do you think I was referring to in the last sentence?
ssshh, i was trying so hard not to type that name!
Only initials...I whispered :(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Was thinking same thing
I’m at least not punching a clock this year, but I think I’m avoiding it being tomorrow. Too many fiddly things to with these programmes. What’s your excuse?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
What about his scraggly goatee?
"As you can imagine, there are better places to have your birthday party than in some village called Mushny Mush Mishme." --The Wisdom of Jens
Couldn't agree more
We don’t know who is going to win it
The stories are cycling related rather than ego related
The sprints are chaotic
The climbs are brutal
Awesome
Polemica
have been conspicuous with their absence. I like.
Wenatchee Wonder FTW
by dees ees en drama on Sep 8, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
GERROOOOOOOO!
GO YOU GOOD THING!
And well lookie who was 4th :-)
Possibly a good thing that I didn’t see it… I’m not sure how I would have coped…
I like Gerro...
…but seeing Ryder finishing second is painful. I would have loved to see him win; it would have been the first Canadian win in a Grand Tour since 1988.
Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill (F. Coppi)
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