Teams for Paris-Nice
Teams for 2010 Paris-Nice
AG2R La Mondiale
Astana
Bbox Bouygues Telecom
Caisse d’Epargne
Cervelo Test Team
Cofidis, le Crédit en ligne
Euskaltel - Euskadi
Française des Jeux
Garmin-Transitions
Katusha Team
Lampre-Farnese Vini
Liquigas-Doimo
Omega Pharma-Lotto
Quick Step
Rabobank
Saur-Sojasun
Skil-Shimano
Team HTC-Columbia
Team Radio Shack
Team Saxo Bank
Team Sky
Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team
(from Cycling News website)
If you didn't read the article notice that BMC isn't among the teams that the ASO selected. Perhaps a slight but perhaps not, with TA in Italy at about the same time they will probably race there if invited as Cadel wants to race the Giro this year.
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Hm
Ballan has a long history with T-A. That might help explain things. I think Hink said they were planning on it.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
If BMC wants to go to the Tour and other ASO races they have to be careful how they deal with the race organizers.
Maybe this is a non issue now but I hadn’t previously considered how they need to be cautious about picking one race over another. They always need to show up with their A game and make sure they are a desirable addition to the big races. It will be easier to get left out of the big races without noticeable results, especially this year with so many viable candidates looking for invites.
He who is, is. He who is not, seeks.
They're already
going to the Tour.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
That's Basically..
All PT team + VacansOleil, Saur-Sojasun, Cofidis, Bbox, Skill and CTT. I think. 23 teams..
And Paris Nice is also no Pro Tour?
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
uh oh
Terpstra and Leenoos aren’t looking like great investments all of a sudden.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Could be worse
Guaranteed an invite to all other ASO races (LBL, PR, Tour etc) according to Milram website
Hm
Did it say guarantee or “guarantee”?
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Jan 28, 2010 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Leenooos always does T-A, same for Wegmann
and Ciolek, so Milram has no need to do P-N, I believe they are as stated guaranteed to be in whichever world calender race they choose to race.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
And Footon
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
3 Dutch teams!
Suweet!
"I'm sorry Karsten, I can't, I'm fucked" Lance Armstrong in respons to Karsten Kroon's request to take over. Shortly before the Muur van Geraardsbergen, Ronde van Vlaanderen 2005
Can you imagine the fun
Hoogerland and van Hummel on the climbs.
"I'm sorry Karsten, I can't, I'm fucked" Lance Armstrong in respons to Karsten Kroon's request to take over. Shortly before the Muur van Geraardsbergen, Ronde van Vlaanderen 2005
John Lelangue said he wasnt trying to get into P-N
he wanted to field one strong team for Tirreno-Adriacto instead. For such a small team, they do need to prioritize. While I do see how this could be construed as a blunder, i still think their strength should get them in the TDF regardless of them passing up other ASO races.
Presumably they are in with ASO and comfortable with their Tour-spot
otherwise he wouldn’t say stuff like that in public.
Cadel has already stated he is going to the Giro to win
to me it’s a sign that A) he knows that’s his best chance to win a GT but also B) BMC knows just to be sure they get a Tour slot they must impress at the Giro. Doing T-A is a better race to warm-up for the Giro, now if they for some reason don’t get into the classics even with a stacked team in both hills and cobbles, then there would be reason to worry. But if Cadel isn’t going to do P-N then I can see the ASO not really being too intrigued in taking them over a French team.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
One problem..
The Giro start 4 may.. They have to announce the wildcards 2 may… The numbers can be off by a couple of days.. But you get the message I hope
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
Not an issue
no way the Giro snubs Cadel Evans, the WC and huge GC challenger. Plus Ballan wants to race the Giro for the first time ever, BMC will be at the Giro.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
I think what El Frinkerino means
is that the Tour wildcards will be handed out before the Giro. I have no idea when they are handed out.
Tour teams were announced 17th March last year
(week or so after Paris- Nice) and 21st March in 2008. This year – dunno, but probably much the same?
Thanks.. I did..
And Wildcards must be given 45 days before the Tour starts. Or so say the UCI. That means 3 may.. While the Giro start the 8th of may.. Therefore.. Shuffle the GT’s.. First Vuelta, than Giro at last the Tour! Maybe I should my post put back up
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
oops.. 60 it was
Conditions
1.2.049 The organiser shall, at least 60 days in advance, invite the team or rider by sending general information.
In the case of national, regional or club teams, he shall notify the national federation of the
invitation.
At least forty days before the race, an invited party shall inform the organiser in writing (letter, fax)
whether he/it wishes to participate in the race or whether he/it wishes to decline the invitation.
At least thirty days before the race, the organiser shall send an official UCI entry form to all invited parties whose participation he accepts. At the same time, he shall inform invited parties whose participation
he does not accept to that effect.
At least twenty days before the race, the invited party shall return to the organiser the original and
three copies of the duly completed entry form. The organiser shall keep the original of the form and
shall, within 48 hours of its reception, send the three other copies to each of addresses mentioned
thereon.
Source
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
Might the ASO accidentally do Cuddles a favour?
Much though Cuddles has impressed over the last year, I still see him as second tier GC in the TdF, behind AC, Schlecklet, possibly Lance, maybe whichever of the liquigas boys has team leadership etc etc.
If the ASO accidentally force him into a Giro / Vuelta schedule, he should be a real strong challenger for both.
I really don't see this
First, if he’s a favorite in the Giro or the Vuelta, he belongs in the mix at the Tour, just to keep the top ten supercompetitive.
Secondly, why would the Tour shut off the nation of Australia this way? They are funded largely by international TV dollars, and if Australia isn’t the US, it’s plenty big enough for the Tour to want people there watching. Cadel in Rainbow… too great a snub. I think you’d lose most of the Australian audience.
What other team’s exclusion could have consequences on this large a scale? Not a fourth Dutch team, that’s for sure.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
adding...
Skil? Saur Sojasun? what’s their argument for a Tour invite? Skil shouldn’t be counting on the fact that they got one before. Vacansoleil have thoroughly remade themselves as a Tour team. With French stars, no less.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
I'm sorry but
I don’t buy this “remade themselves as a Tour team”. Apart from bringing on the well liked french Feillus, they have what?
A solid b/c list sprinter in Bozic, a possibly over the hill leadout in Ongarato and the most suspect sudden superstar of 2009 in Hoogerland. And Hoogerland has already stated that the Giro is a better target for him as it suits his capabilities.
The only solid Tour-material I see in them is the dutch Grand Depart, which I fear will be enough.
And how exactly can BMC make up 2 GT teams?
From what I see BMC has:
01 Evans
02 Frank
03 Frei
04 Ballan
05 Hincapie
06 Moos
07 Santambrogio
08 Morabito
09 Burghardt
10 Schar
11/12/13 Wyss?? Kohler?? Bookwalter?
Serious.. How can yo make 2 GT teams of them..
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
Apart from the Feillus
This is like a scene from Life of Brian. “Apart from the French Climbing Sensation and his sprinting brother, and an attacking climber/stage-hunter/KOM type, WHAT have Vacansoleil really done for us?”
Blown Skil Shimano out of the water, that’s what.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
But "thouroughly remade"?
The only significant addition to a team that would never be considered for a Tour spot is the Feillus.
And btw , no way can you compare the Feillus to the aqueduct. To the sanitation, yes. The roads? Perhaps.
it's a fair cop
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Well Australia wasn't exactly exploding in last year's Tour...Evans was cleary off form and the only other one was Renshaw
being a key leadout man. They got half a stage win with Haussler. Evans has said he is going to the Giro for classification and we saw what happened to Menchov and Sastre last year after that action-packed Giro. He is choosing to go all out in the Giro and if BMC even starts the Tour (they have snubbed world champions before) there would be no guarantees of him doing anything whatsoever…No offense to the australians who read this.
by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 29, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, well
everything is different now, thanks to one remarkable afternoon in Mendrisio. Also, everyone says they’re going all out at the Giro.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
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