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Milano-Sanremo Finish Unchanged

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La Primavera will follow the same finish this year as it did last year. The race organizers issued a statement today to correct what they called misunderstandings in the media. Rumors had suggested that the Italian monument would add a new, less sprinter friendly finish to the race. The 101st Milano-Sanremo will depart Milano on the via della Chiesa Rossa and conclude in Sanremo on the Lungamare Italo Calvino. Seven climbs will enliven the proceedings: Turchino, Le Manie, Capi Mele, Cervo, Berta, Cipressa, and Poggio. The year's edition of the 298 kilometer race takes place on Saturday, 20 March. British sprinter Mark Cavendish won the 2009 edition ahead of Heinrich Haussler. Oh Barbie, Barbie!

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Indeed

though Columbia’s attack-catching machine looked as solid as ever in Oz…

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 29, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Some real hills might be able to break it up this time...

Though it also still remains to be seen if other teams like Garmin are improved or not.

by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 29, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I would guess

the fact that Cavendish won last year, in his first try, has put other teams on notice that they can’t hold back on attacks, that they need to make a more serious effort on the Poggio, or it’s over. Yes, Garmin and Lampre might be content to take their chances with Farrar and Petacchi, but for everyone else, forget it. Attack.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 29, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Listing the teams...

Teams that WON’T attack:
Columbia (Cavendish)
Cervelo (Hushovd, Haussler)
Garmin (Farrar)
Lampre (Petacchi)
Liquigas (Bennati)
Milram (Ciolek)
Astana (Davis)
Sky (EBH)
ISD (Visconti)
Rabobank

Teams That Won’t Attack effectively:
Radioshack
Caisse d’Epargne
FdJ
AG2R

Teams that could attack maybe:
Saxo (Cancellara)
Lotto (Gilbert)
Quickstep??? (Imagine Devo, Boonen, and Chavanel seriously coordinating their attacks. Probably won;t happen tho.)
Katusha (sorry, Pippo, not you)

So seriously who is gonna do this effective attacking? Most teams will want to wait. Most of the rest of the team won’t have the firepower so won’t really try.

by ursula on Jan 29, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Rabo won't attack?

BOOM, there it is.

"I'm sorry Karsten, I can't, I'm fucked" Lance Armstrong in respons to Karsten Kroon's request to take over. Shortly before the Muur van Geraardsbergen, Ronde van Vlaanderen 2005

by Lopex on Jan 29, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Damn, I hope he comes in thinking aggressively.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 29, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Too simplyfied

most of the teams on your WON’T list have multiple options and wouldn’t mind sending someone on the attack and have their sprinter as Plan B in the (likely) case the attack fails.

by Jens on Jan 29, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

e.g. CTT

They have to send Haussler up the Poggio, guns blazing. Thor can hang on Cav’s wheel by his lonesome.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 29, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

And they have Theo Bos too

If he can’t beat Cav he can always ….

"I'm sorry Karsten, I can't, I'm fucked" Lance Armstrong in respons to Karsten Kroon's request to take over. Shortly before the Muur van Geraardsbergen, Ronde van Vlaanderen 2005

by Lopex on Jan 29, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No!

remember, we proved this was impossible. Besides, nobody gets within a forearm’s length of Cav.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 29, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not conviced.

Sure a bunch of teams have attacking options but most of those guys after 280km and just not gonna have the stuff to attack up the Poggio and then to hold that attack over several km of flat roads.

Haussler? Yeah right, particularly after last year when their strategy was so close to winning. They just aren’t gonna change tactics that easily.

Boom? More plausible but he’s never done this kinda thing before.

EBH is probably my biggest overstatement but we have to see what Sky’s tactics will be.

Shiiiiiit. I’ll take the Wenatachee Wonder over any early attack.

by ursula on Jan 29, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I think the race is too long and Columbia too strong and too singularly focused on Cav for an attack to stay away. Granted, Columbia will probably not be as strong this year, but they will be strong enough to keep the pace high enough on the flats and barely hang on during the bumps to deliver Cav to the finish line.

Only way I see anything other than a Cav win is if Columbia is a much weaker team or the pace to the final 30k is manageable and all hell breaks loose on the Poggio, with multiple teams attacking, not just a few riders.

by PopUp Rolen on Jan 29, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Notice the rider that brought Cav to the line is not there...Mr. Hincapie

4 of the 7 riders that were at last years San Remo are not there…They might hvae a buttload of talent but they don’t have too many guys right now that can last til the end of San Remo.

by Vlaanderen90 on Jan 30, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Cav will be fine.

He has Monfort, Roulston, Siutsou, Rogers, Eisel, Greipel, Velits brothers. Remember Peter Velits was a top 10 finisher last year. Cav still has the firepower to get him into contention even without George.

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Jan 30, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I think their problem is

every other team surely must have watched last years race and drawn their conclusions. So a number of them must have concluded that they need to make the race harder earlier, meaning that there will be forcing on the Capi, La Manie and Cipressa too. Surely most teams will be better off trying their luck this way than sitting still waiting for the sprint?

by Jens on Jan 30, 2010 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I did not see Hincapie bring Cav to the line

Cav was waaaaay back when he started his sprint meaning that was a poor lead-out by Columbia’s standards. That win was on Cav.

by ursula on Jan 30, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Look back

from the descent off the Poggio and on. You can’t compare MSR to a usual sprinters stage.It’s not about a train. Hincapie was clearly instrumental in bringing Cav in a position he could win from.

Not saying someone else can’t do the same job for Cav, mind you.

by Jens on Jan 30, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the finish was on Cav

him even getting there was Columbias doing.

by Davide Don of Rio on Jan 30, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't assume HTC-Columbia's might so quickly

There have been several times in recent years when strong teams with major sprinters (Petacchi, T-Mobile) have worked hard to bring the race together for a sprint after the Poggio and failed. Case in point would be in 2006 when Pippo held off Petacchi by a bike length after going clear over the Poggio. The determining factor is how hard the race is over the Cipressa and early parts of the Poggio – it wasn’t that hard last year, so it was relatively “easy” to keep it together. If we see some antics like EBH, Pippo, and others starting to attack on the Cipressa and going again on the Poggio it’ll be a lot more nail-biting.

by Douglas Ansel on Jan 30, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

EBH would not beat many of the pure sprinters yet

so I believe attacking is a perfect plan for him, same goes for Visconti.

March 14, 2010: The great one returns!

by Phil H. on Jan 29, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn

I really love the idea of some of these kids attacking. THey’re wildcards, not overly well known (though not mysteries by any means either) so the old guard will be forced to think quickly about whether to chase, if it’s a little ways out. [Obviously at some point all attacks get chased.]

But plotting it and pulling it off in a 298 km race are two different things.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 29, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You're not alone

For me, they’re serious firepower. Remember when Visconti almost held off the charging field in the Giro this year? Attacked in the last 2km and got caught with… 150m to go? That’s holding out a lot longer than most people would.

I think the more interesting thing to watch is the teams deciding “chase now, or wait 5sec and let so-and-so chase”. That’s the decision that will lose the race for somebody.

by Douglas Ansel on Jan 29, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with the guys who think it may be more confused...

Cervelo: I wonder if Haussler’s early jump was planned or happenstance – and certainly people will be looking for him. Plus they know that elbow to elbow Thor loses
Garmin: agree they keep it together – unless they decided to try the Cancellara route with someone like Millar (if he is riding?)
Lampre – is Lampre organised enough to plan anything?
Leaky – open debate – could they load themselves up with climbers and fire guys off the front continuously from a long way out (sort of like Saxo at LBL last year)
Astana – are they strong enough to matter?
Sky - I think EBH’s best shot is a late attack… certainly not trying to outsprint Cav

It’s all very uncertain, and the 300km distance means who has the legs is probably more important than who has the plan – but if I am not HTC, I think chaos is the way forward.

Just for debate… ursula, it has to be said, knows a hell of a lot more about this than i do (having watched the sum total of 1 MSR)

by addict on Feb 1, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Re: Lampre

If they sign Petacchi and his posse they certainly will be organized.

by Jens on Feb 1, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen.

Pippo, attacking 200m from the summit is useless. Why even bother? Attack on the CIPRESSA!

by Douglas Ansel on Jan 29, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

gawd

why isn’t it cycling season yet? Hey guys, can you accelerate those camps?

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 29, 2010 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

What are some good online resources that you guys use to follow cycling news in English?

I need some more ideas besides:

cyclingnews.com
velonews.com
pezcyclingnews.com
roadcycling.com
dailypeloton.com

Any others that you might recommend?

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Jan 29, 2010 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

www.podiumcafe.com

Seriously, I don’t visit any of the sites you mention frequently (if at all) and I hear all the English news I need. But I have the luxury of Dutch news too.

"I'm sorry Karsten, I can't, I'm fucked" Lance Armstrong in respons to Karsten Kroon's request to take over. Shortly before the Muur van Geraardsbergen, Ronde van Vlaanderen 2005

by Lopex on Jan 29, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Although I hear they talk about movies a lot.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 29, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you know what happens when you

…never mind.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Jan 29, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That is indeed a nuisance

And now that they have infected the mind of our hapless young Frinkles it has become a nightmare.

"I'm sorry Karsten, I can't, I'm fucked" Lance Armstrong in respons to Karsten Kroon's request to take over. Shortly before the Muur van Geraardsbergen, Ronde van Vlaanderen 2005

by Lopex on Jan 29, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Drew scared me.. I won't do it anymore..

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Jan 29, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Frinkles has more nicknames that anyone I have ever known.

"Awesome! is more about what gets fans excited than what’s harder to do." - Chris...

by ZoeRochelle on Jan 29, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That is nice you have Dutch news for cycling.

Here in the states it is none existent, except for a 10 sec mention when Lance is riding. That is why I like reading it off of websites.

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Jan 29, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

Didn’t mean to rub it in. ;-)

"I'm sorry Karsten, I can't, I'm fucked" Lance Armstrong in respons to Karsten Kroon's request to take over. Shortly before the Muur van Geraardsbergen, Ronde van Vlaanderen 2005

by Lopex on Jan 30, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

O and

On the main page of PdC you’ll find a long list of links in the left column. Scroll down a little to find it.

"I'm sorry Karsten, I can't, I'm fucked" Lance Armstrong in respons to Karsten Kroon's request to take over. Shortly before the Muur van Geraardsbergen, Ronde van Vlaanderen 2005

by Lopex on Jan 29, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks Lopex. I must have missed that section when looking around.

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Jan 29, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

stick to PdC

English cycling news,
here we do better

by rbjhan on Jan 30, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Two others

The British site cycling weekly has some good info and I really like the wednessday comment (that actually publishes on Wednesday, ha!). Also, the Boulder report over at bicycling mag is good reading. For N. American news, hit podiuminsight.com.

by Jen See on Jan 30, 2010 11:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

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