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Ohn_mediumFirst, the name. After being known for 63 years as the Omloop Het Volk, or just Het Volk -- a simple name even to us angelsachians -- it's still hard to get accustomed to Omloop Het Nieuwsblad. If you weren't around last year for the changeover, on the surface this was simply a matter of one newspaper absorbing an asset from a failing "sister" newspaper. Though the Omloop was started as Het Volk's answer to HNB's Tour of Flanders, the papers had actually merged in 2000. And last year Het Volk ceased to be. Is there no room in Belgium for "real news with a human undertone?" No, apparently. So instead of being named after "the people," cycling's season opener is now named after "the news paper." I'll go with just "the Omloop."

I liken the Omloop to opening day for baseball in Fenway Park. To the fans, it's a beautiful pageant and a symbol that spring has arrived, to their great relief. For one day, at least, the race -- like early April baseball in Boston -- masks the fact that it still isn't all that nice outside, and after a long winter even a day of pretending is welcomed. The athletes, on the other hand, can be forgiven for holding less charitable views: they've just come from six weeks of sunshine and palm trees, and standing around in scant clothing they are more likely to notice what looks like a snowstorm brewing on the horizon. Every so often nature does the talking for them, smothering the fans' optimism with a few inches of reality and canceling the race or the game. And even if things go as planned, the day's exuberance wears off pretty quickly and gives way to the drudgery of cold-weather baseball, or Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne.

So, when the 65th Omloop goes off this Saturday, enjoy the day's festivities, thank the riders for putting on a good show, and settle in for a long, hard haul. By which, of course, I mean Paris-Nice.

OK, the course: this year's edition is a pretty traditional Omloop, starting and ending in Gent with a clockwise circuit that takes in a dozen climbs in the Vlaamse Ardennen:

  • Leberg: 700 meters, 6.1% avg, 14% max
  • Berendries: 930m, 7% avg, 12.3% max
  • Valkenberg: 875m, 6% avg, 15% max
  • Tenbosse: 450m, 6.9% avg, 8.7% max
  • Eikenmolen: 610m, 5.9% avg, 12.5% max
  • Muur/Kappelmuur: 1075m, 9.2% avg 19.8% max (cobbled)
  • La Houppe (Pottelberg): 1300m, 6.5% avg, 8% max
  • Nieuwe Kruisberg: 1000m, 6% avg (cobbled)
  • Taaienberg: 800m, 7.1% avg, 18% max (cobbled)
  • Eikenberg: 1252m, 5.8% avg, 10% max (cobbled)
  • Wolvenberg: 666m, 6.8% avg, 17.3% max
  • Molenberg: 463m, 7% avg, 14.2% max (cobbled)

All of these climbs are in East Flanders except La Houppe, in Hainault. Also, the Nieuwe Kruisberg is not to be confused with the old Kruisberg, the next road over. Sprinkled around the course are numerous cobbled sectors, including about 6500 meters worth of cobbles in the 15k following the last climb. To wit:

 

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Lastly, the final stretch is no picnic, with a slight incline in the drag to the line. See if you can spot it among the flying carbon tubes and bodies of last year:

Omloop Nieuwsblad 2009 laatste kilometer (via superkrediet)

Power sprint. After 204km, 12 rated climbs and some ridiculous total of cobbles. in somewhat crap February weather. Should be fun. Next up: the contenders. Will I wait til closer to the race to write that piece and build the tension? Probably... not.

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But Chris, you didn't address the important issue...

… at what point in the race are we all going to crack open the beer and toast the new season?

by Lou... on Feb 23, 2010 3:44 AM EST reply actions  

Seeing as we'll see the new day sooner, can we start earlier?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 3:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh dear [shakes head]

No, mate… the idea here is that we all toast the new season at the same time, and during the race. It’s not about the beer. OK, let me correct that… it’s only partly about the beer…

by Lou... on Feb 23, 2010 4:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll compromise... it's the best I can do.

Wine until you all tell me it’s a beer toast. It’s the best I can do…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 4:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you not like beer?

If that’s the case, I had a great Belgian kriek lambic at Christmas—tasted just like cherry soda, but in a good way (as in, not like sticky sweet cheap fake-cherry tasting crap, but deliciously refreshing, fragrant, and slightly tart yumminess). Can’t remember the brand off the top of my head, but it might have been Lindemans. I think I’ll pick some up for the toast—somehow it seems more appealing to drink in the morning than Chimay.

It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen

by majope on Feb 23, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I like beer at lunchtime and wine at night...

I’m specifically a lover of good sauvignon blanc and chardonnay and big fat Australian reds but I’m not thrilled at the prospect of any of these at daybreak… my age is showing. I might be the one with the coffee.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Could always go with Irish coffee!

With just the tiniest splash of whiskey to make it suitable for toasting.

It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen

by majope on Feb 23, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that's a very good idea :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Aussie Shiraz is quite yummy.

Though not, I think, at the crack of dawn :-)

by Jen See on Feb 23, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

It all depends

On whether you’re waking up or going to sleep.

by Douglas Ansel on Feb 23, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Mimosas

Aren’t they those horrible yellow flowers that men are meant to give women in Italy on one special day in spring. Bulgakov was spot on about them. “Do you like my flowers?” “No!”

by Monty. on Feb 23, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok - so we all toast at the same time...

but that doesn’t mean we have to wait for the toast, right? Just need to still have a drink left…

Best week ever. Got Belgium sorted, won a new bike and gained a new niece all in the space of 3 days.

by omnevelnihil on Feb 23, 2010 5:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly! Compromise is all...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 5:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Well at least you said it first...

I can’t do the first drink at four in the morning (or whatever it is), I have to warm up. Obviously omne is similarly afflicted.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 5:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. Don't get me wrong

I’m all in favour of a breakfast beer, but I just can’t do breakfast that early. Nightcap’s my only valid option.

Best week ever. Got Belgium sorted, won a new bike and gained a new niece all in the space of 3 days.

by omnevelnihil on Feb 23, 2010 6:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Aren't 'breakfast beers' called Recovery Parties?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 6:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually can't think of a reply

That won’t result in me being the centre of an intervention.

Best week ever. Got Belgium sorted, won a new bike and gained a new niece all in the space of 3 days.

by omnevelnihil on Feb 23, 2010 6:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure you need to train for the Classics... training comes in many forms ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 6:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I take back what was said above

… and Seahorse has just jumped a few spots on the deportation list, I suspect…

by Lou... on Feb 23, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

It’s possible to be deported FROM Australia? :)

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem

it’s hot enough to boil a monkey’s bum.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

"that's what I said to the Queen"

“She’s a good Sheila and not at all stuck-up”

by R Mc on Feb 23, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It is possible, but mostly it's voluntary emigration...

There are some people who don’t like golden beaches, unspoilt wilderness, cold beer, a minimum of four weeks leave each year, laid-back attitudes and so on. We’re not sure where they go, but we’re not looking too hard.

Best week ever. Got Belgium sorted, won a new bike and gained a new niece all in the space of 3 days.

by omnevelnihil on Feb 24, 2010 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget socialised medicine ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 24, 2010 5:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I was trying to be polite...

I don’t want to pour salt into that old wound ;)

Best week ever. Got Belgium sorted, won a new bike and gained a new niece all in the space of 3 days.

by omnevelnihil on Feb 24, 2010 6:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't help it... reflexive...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 24, 2010 6:41 AM EST up reply actions  

on the other hand

I recall hearing an Australian feller talk on the radio about emigrating with his family to Ireland in 1985 or so. Including his family, he said, there was a total of about 15 immigrants to Ireland that year. The immigration officials were apparently asking why on earth they wanted to come to Ireland from Australia.

(Times have changed a bit in Ireland, of course.)

by Drongo on Feb 24, 2010 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh no no no no no. It's you Lou for suggesting we must wait...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It's also going to be the first chance

(of many) for me to lament my poor VDS selections. I can’t wait!

Best week ever. Got Belgium sorted, won a new bike and gained a new niece all in the space of 3 days.

by omnevelnihil on Feb 23, 2010 6:18 AM EST reply actions  

I'm fighting with you for ignominy... I worked hard at ensuring i thought all my riders were lovely...

how they ride , now that’s another issue…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 6:20 AM EST up reply actions  

They say looks aren't everything

But you can’t tell the goodness of their soul from the shape of their bum.

So I think your selection process is completely valid. I intend to do the same for tipping on women’s races.

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well i feel validated..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

At least you'll both have excuses

for your VDS rankings. My team will be prominent only by its ill-judged name, and I have no such excuse.

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 7:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I've tried to match names of teams to people...

which is fun although unfulfilling seeing as I’ll never know.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw one with an obvious Tim Winton reference

and assumed it was yours. I’ll admit mine later, once I submit it.

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 7:30 AM EST up reply actions  

No points for guessing mine at all. I'm expecting yours to be clever and original

unlike mine.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

your expectations

like mine in this year’s VDS, will be dashed

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 7:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Being less obvious could have saved me some humiliation..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing... of course it is

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Fish Lamb will lend my guys wings.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

At least you remember the name of your team

Scratching my head on that one. Probably a climbing reference.

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No it wasn't about looks... ( sorry Stuey)... it was about good blokes

… well except maybe for Kloden… and i like his reserve anyway.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:19 AM EST up reply actions  

And his perky bum ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:20 AM EST up reply actions  

As I said

You can’t see how good a bloke they are on telly- but you CAN see their bum.

I had a crush on Katie mactier’s legs for at least three years.

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the thing is to totally ignore the vds standings until the end of the season

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 23, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Or exactly the opposite.

I was quite happy with my team for much of the season, and choose to totally ignore their final placing.

It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen

by majope on Feb 23, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I suspect I reached my highest ever VDS placing

on the first day of the first year I played. Four out of the top five or something like that. Thes someone suggestd that I should get to know the peloton in depth. So my old, tested, tactic of “only pick people you’ve heard of” was suddenly stuffed by my learning the life history of all the losers, dross, and other pack fodder, as I said to myself “well he might win this season. And won’t you feel smug if you’re the only one who picked him.”

by Monty. on Feb 23, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

New finishlocation

Do you all know that the Omloop has a new finishlocation: at the Sint Pietersplein, the same place as where they start.
The uphill finish on the video no longer applies to the race today.
And in the final kilometer theay are now passing a lot of pubs in the Overpoortstraat.
Hopefully the belgians haven’t drunk to much ….

by FrankV on Feb 23, 2010 6:24 AM EST reply actions  

Ah, thanks!

I figured that when they returned to Gent a couple years ago they fixed on a location. So is it flat?

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

From the story at CN
Still, due to this modification the long slightly uphill slope towards the finish is gone. The St. Peter’s square is located on top of the Blandijnberg, the highest point of Ghent and Van Herreweghe assured that it was still a tricky finish. "The last few hundred meters are constantly false flat

CN

by Jens on Feb 23, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

2%.. Or so I heard..

#km from the finish a cobblesection.. But Frank knows better. Also see his stagesummary on cf

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 23, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

OK

so it’s still a hard finish for the sprinters, assuming they arrive together, which they usually don’t.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

As for the name...

I thought that old-timers often called it Gent-Gent.

I decided last year to refer to it thus. The newspaper be damned.

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 6:33 AM EST reply actions  

So the Amstel Gold Race is also named "The Race" by you

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 23, 2010 7:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure that Amstel Gold was never just 'the Race'

So I doubt that it was on Drongo’s mind. Can’t speak for him though.

Gent-Gent I like. Simple,everyone knows what it means, and it has the bonus of authenticity.

Now, where were we- best breakfast beer? Squires Amber Ale?

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, Amstel is a shit beer

So it’s the beer race or AGR for me. Sponsors can only take me so far, so I call it the Sun Tour, for example, but not the Jayco Herald Sun Tour or whatever it is now, and in football I talk about the League Cup, not the Carling Cup or Coca-Cola Cup or whatever monstrosity they’ve managed to come up with this year.

Am I wrong?

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 7:16 AM EST up reply actions  

You're not wrong..

You’re just.. wrong.. Assume Amstel didn’t sponsor the AGR.. Less money, less kilometers, less side-events, etc. It’s good for both. So don’t see a reason why you should call it Gent-Gent

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 23, 2010 7:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Tradition Frinking. Tradition..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't do that!

YouTube costs me a bomb on this iPhone!

Oh- yes, Amstel is terrible beer. The Beer Race is a Good Name. That one gets stored away. You’re on fire today, Drongo.

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

sorry 'bout that

it was only 6 seconds, and I thought Frinking might appreciate a Lebowski reference, especially since I was making myself the butt of it.

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

But Frinking

What if it were sponsored by a good beer? The Grolsch Gauntlet.

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Uuuhhhhh....

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 23, 2010 7:27 AM EST up reply actions  

he's a student... any beer is good beer

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I never liked Melbourne Bitter

But I know what you mean. I would drink anything that had wetness and some ethanol when I was eighteen. Wetness probably optional.

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I've spent the last ten years trying to like light beer. It hasn't worked at all..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Try coopers mild

It’s not bad. Well, it’s not horse piss.

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I've decided it's either full strength or wine... i hate it.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:41 AM EST up reply actions  

How is it optional?

Unless you had frozen beer. I have had thawed beer, after leaving it in the freezer too long. Not too bad, just a little flat. But frozen beer, still frozen? Like a big beer-flavoured Sunnyboy?

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 7:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm feeling a bit queasy now...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I've done it

Beer Sunnyboy. Not recommended, rarely forgotten.

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

When i lived in Japan they put milk in Sunnyboy packaging

in school lunches. Warm milk that should have been orange…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

they have Speight's ice cream across the ditch

but a beer Sunnyboy takes the biscuit.

I don’t know if you deserve censure or a pat on the back. I offer both, since I’m an even-handed chap.

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

It really wasn't great

Shandy might have worked. But they’re an awful lot of effort for little gain.

by Runitout on Feb 23, 2010 7:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

"In de Beugel met Grolsch"

(In de beugel = in the drops. Also, the famous Grolsch bottle is called the Beugel.)

by tedvdw on Feb 23, 2010 7:30 AM EST up reply actions  

D'oh

Grolsch In De Beugel would be much better

by tedvdw on Feb 23, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Corsendonk Koerse

Zoef Zoef la Chouffe (it rhymes)
Ronde Leffe Blonde

by tedvdw on Feb 23, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

see, they're all still beer races

just that some are more delicious.

La Chouffe works well for me at the moment (still Summer here). In other news, however, I have just learnt that Unibroue will no longer import to Australia. No more La Maudite or Trois Pistoles! Tabernacle!

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

No Unibroue..My sympathies go out to you.

Did you ever get to try their “17”? If it was wine it would have sold for $100 a bottle.

by fancan on Feb 23, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

oh no

no more of some of the best of Belgium from Canada! That is too bad, I hate when distribution deals end or change.

by Nomer on Feb 23, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like it's gonna be a wet one.

From Weather UNderground: http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/06431.html

"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 23, 2010 7:23 AM EST reply actions  

After all the discussion I will tell you the winner of the "openingsclassic"

Frederic Amorison! (And no.. He’s mine.. Do NOT put him in your VDS team)

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 23, 2010 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

You weren't terribly Delphic there, Frinking

Give yourself a little wriggle room in case you’re off target.

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Friiinkinnng...

Leave that stuff up to the real pros. Ursula for instance.

by fancan on Feb 23, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

The real pros.. Off target...

Holy cow.. Shocked.. But well.. we will see who have to apologize Saturday… I do not reproach you anything.. for now..

But I will say this for now.. He rode a briljant OHN last year.. After that he got injured and missed the whole spring.. That’s not going to happen this time..

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 23, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure

now Pozzato just has to wipe out the entire field again and you’re golden.

by Jens on Feb 23, 2010 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Pozzato... If you wipe out riders you have to ride at the front no?

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 23, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

paris nice a long hard haul?

shame on you chris!

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Feb 23, 2010 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

Nobody

ever looks happy in that race

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

ah, you meant for the riders

in which case i agree, a truly unhappy time. i hope it’s raining.

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Feb 23, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The race to the sun

Except they never actually catch the sun do they?

by ursula on Feb 23, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

at the end

when it finishes.

If the sun came half-way through they could just stop there.

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

that's the sadness...

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Basso!

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 24, 2010 5:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha, yes

and Horner, always grinning.

by tedvdw on Feb 24, 2010 5:42 AM EST up reply actions  

And Jens!

But you can assume when he is grinning everyone else is miserable

by addict on Feb 24, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Historically

Odds are 5 to 6 a Belgian will stand on the top step this weekend.

I wonder if Flecha will again chase breaks with Rabobank riders in it.

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Feb 23, 2010 9:34 AM EST reply actions  

Notice I said guys who actually win... =]

Boonen is the main exception is ’05 and ’06 but the last 3 Flanders winners rode T-A and the last 4 Roubaix winners rode T-A. The animators might ride P-N but they usually do not win the big 2. Hushovd came into his own this year after…riding T-A.

An even more astounding fact is that the last 10! winners of MSR rode T-A.

by Vlaanderen90 on Feb 23, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball + Het Nieuwsblad =

Take me out to the Omloop,
Take me out to Gent-Gent;
Buy me some frites and a big Chimay,
Find me a spot on a stretch of pavé.
And it’s root, root, root for the flahutes
Flashing by on a mud-slicked descent
After one, two, three podium spots—
Season’s open at Gent-Gent!

It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen

by majope on Feb 23, 2010 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

Holy smokes!

We need a podcast of Albertina singing this. The PdC anthem!

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What a lovely song Majope!

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 23, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

oop de hoek

"The road is our agony, but also our daily bread; and at night, when it is deserted and the moon glistens on the asphalt, the ridiculous dreams of racers like us pass up and down it."

--Dino Buzzati

by nrs5000 on Feb 23, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice work

But perhaps unlikely to be remembered by drunk persons? A chant needs to be simple… glory, glory Man United, the reds go marching up, sort of thing..

by Lou... on Feb 23, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you people know

the prototype? We’ve managed the original drunk for decades, so it’s likely a dedicated cycling fan can handle a few changes in the lyrics.

It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen

by majope on Feb 23, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, we do... great job Majope

I think Lou was referring to the lyrics not the tune ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

OT, question :-)

Are you in the Sydney time zone? I’m trying to get the hang of your time zones for future live chat thingies. And yes, I could start a new thread, but you’re like right here and stuff.

by Jen See on Feb 23, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes...

But we’re not here if you schedule it to start at 9am your time ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.

If I could swing like a 7 or 8 am Sydney time would that work for you kids? No promises, but just trying to sort out what times you would be awake.

by Jen See on Feb 23, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That seems a good compromise to me,

although I have the luxury of flexible working hours etc. I’m thinking it’s commuing time for a number of people. Thank you for trying Gavia. Even if it doesn’t work out, you’ve tried to do what you could. Can’t ask for more than that.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

*commuting

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 23, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Bless you, Gav, for thinking of us!

Personally, I’d prefer an earlier start to a later one. Yes, the 4am start last time proved to be too early for me (despite my best intentions!) – but if we start any later than 7am, then attendance ceases to be an option for me at all. I’m usually off the the salt mine at around 7:30am.

Oh, and it’s a little way off… but daylight savings ends for us on 4th April ;-)

by Lou... on Feb 24, 2010 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

7am would be pretty awesome for me.

I could check in for a while before hitting the ride into work.

Best week ever. Got Belgium sorted, won a new bike and gained a new niece all in the space of 3 days.

by omnevelnihil on Feb 24, 2010 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay

So somewhere in the 6-7 am time frame Sydney time would probably work okay for you’s all.

I’ll see what I can do on future chats. It’ll mostly depend on the rider and his schedule, but I’ll definitely see if we can do these things to include you too. LOL, I just had to figure out the time zones there. The world, she is complicated.

by Jen See on Feb 24, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

When is that in European time?!

"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H

by Frinking on Feb 24, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It's in the evening for you Frinky. Perfect timing ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 24, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So now I have an Aussie sport anthem stuck in my head.

And I’m gonna share the joy, of course. Garn, get some Aussie culture into ya! (And remember that it’s all majope’s fault…)

by Lou... on Feb 24, 2010 5:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Lou thats football!!!

What a bunch of pussies we have in North America playing football in tank armor. Just wish I had an inkling how the scoring works.

by fancan on Feb 24, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

It's Australian Rules... very few games that are more athletic I suspect.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Feb 24, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup, we know, LOL

And yeah… we’re too polite to mention the p-word, but… ;-)

My favourite bit is at 43 seconds, where he lands on the poor dude’s shoulder and takes the mark :-)

by Lou... on Feb 24, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

'rooting' means something rather different in these parts

but if it somehow helps the classics season, I’m sure we can all find it in ourselves to do a bit

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

BRAVO!!!!! splendid....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 23, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Bike racing, yay!

Somehow, though, I still think of Milano-Sanremo as Spring.

by Jen See on Feb 23, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

I'll take spring

as early as people call it. Winter is getting old.

by Douglas Ansel on Feb 23, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

because in MSR, as in your world, it’s all about beautiful seaside promenades, singing birds, and espresso stops. Whereas in mine, Spring is all about pissing cold rain, crappy pavement… and espresso stops. Ergo, Flanders!

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

amen brother!

"Today I was honked at...I caught up and made a great honking noise back...he caught up and said I'm gonna punch you in the face...I laughed."

~DZ

by Hons on Feb 23, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

lol, pretty much

also, i heart the trip over the Turchino to the sea.

by Jen See on Feb 23, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Spring is all about rain and cold.

I celebrated by spinning on the trainer this morning while watching the ’94 PR. Mud. Rain. And more Mud. A few flat tires and yet more mud. Tchmyl won, same as last time I watched it. In the mud.

by tshawytcha on Feb 23, 2010 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

I would have thought Franco Ballerini wins 94 P-R this time.

He would use his new celestial powers to ensure that he never flatted and had to wait three minutes (along with Duclos-Lasalle) in ankle-deep mud for a wheel change. Still somehow finished third in the real thing.

by Mr 60 Percent on Feb 24, 2010 7:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Well then here...

have some Steve Gutten…

"My facking goat didn’t wear Robes! Does he look Scottisch?!" Baron von Frinkenstein

by swells on Feb 23, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You'll pay for that...

… don’t think you won’t pay.

I miss Paolo Bettini. That is all.

by crashdan on Feb 23, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Omloop!

That reminds me to start working on my VDS squad. Who to pick????

by ursula on Feb 23, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

Gasparotto?

Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill (F. Coppi)

by MathieuG on Feb 23, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Steegmans.

No, really—it’s his year.

It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen

by majope on Feb 23, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks! So much!

Got anything in a Dutch stage race helper? Or a German sprinter?

by ursula on Feb 23, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Dammit--has Ted leaked my entire team to you?????

It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen

by majope on Feb 23, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard Ciolek has already healed

You can’t go wrong choosing Milram

"Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs."

by jsallee00 on Feb 23, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh of course

I hear all the leading teams have at least 10 Milrams.

by ursula on Feb 23, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh.

I only have 7.

It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen

by majope on Feb 23, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha

You’re doomed!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Feb 23, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I said LEADING teams

by ursula on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Cunego

it’s all coming together, the team, the time trialing…

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

By coming together you mean doing a face plant?

Sounds like the man for me!

And, just so everyone knows, I AM taking Gaspa. As pennance. I just have to figure which 2 pointer he’s replacing that will now earn 1000 points this year.

by ursula on Feb 23, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch

It looks like it scalped him too

by Monty. on Feb 23, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Post from Feb 17, though

Probably a crash from last year? (re: sun, short sleeves)

by tedvdw on Feb 23, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

And there was me thinking

unlucky bugger to crash like that twice

by Monty. on Feb 23, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Ever get the feeling you've ben following a sport too closely

when you look at a photo and think “I think I recognize that bandage?” ?

by Jens on Feb 23, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that was a great effort

from both him and his team. I was as impressed by that as anything else he’s done on a bike, and that’s saying something.

by Drongo on Feb 23, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The name

They wanted to name it Omloop van Vlaanderen first. Allegedly, as a patriotic statement against the Ronde van Vlaanderen’s coöperative stance towards the occupying Germans. They were forced to change it in court eventually.

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Feb 23, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Whoa

The RVV cooperated with the Germans? By holding the race? Hopefully nothing worse.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It was the only classic held during the war

Full (well-documented) story via wikipedia:
Tour of Flanders

The same thing happened in more countries. Rather harmless I’d say. Sport-crazy people wanted races to happen and the Germans saw it as a nice way to improve their image…

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Feb 23, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yah

Maybe there was clear contemporary logic against doing this, but I’m sure I’ll never appreciate the pros and cons. At least not until I learn Dutch so I can read all the books on de Ronde I plan to buy over there.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 23, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

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