2010 Team Previews: Growing Up Rabo
What's Interesting About Them:
The Rabobank Continental Team, a/k/a the Development Program. I have carried on and on about Dutch Cycling slowly coming around, thanks to an investment in talented youth. Now, development squads are neither new nor uniquely confined to Rabobank. Heck, Lance has his own development project. Rabo Continental aren't doing anything revolutionary; they're just doing the old things very, very well. Or maybe it's timing: a wave of talent just happens to have arrived following a prolongued slumber, and there happens to be a program in place to turn this talent into results... has been since at least 2002. Or it's the fact that Rabobank is now more or less the story of Dutch Cycling: they've been lead sponsors since 1996 and the team's roots date back to the mid-80s, during most of which time there hasn't been another Dutch team of remotely similar stature. Rabobank is at least the image (if not the whole substance) of Dutch Cycling, and the Netherlands has long been a top second-tier cycling country, usually looking up at Italy, Belgium and Spain but fully capable of beating the bigger boys at their own game.
In any event, 15 of the 27 riders on the 2010 Pro Tour Team roster have roots in the development system, and that doesn't account for the ex-Rabo CT stagiares who've turned pro with other teams. Robert Gesink is the standard-bearer for Mollema, Boom, Leezer, Stamsnijder, Reus, Weening, etc. Sebastian Langeveld is the only prominent Dutchman on the squad with no ties that I can detect to the development team... and of course the foreign stars like Menchov, Freire and Nuyens came by alternate routes. Much is expected of this young home-grown crop, and if they continue progressing, if they can pull the country out of its cycling funk and catch up to their high-flying Belgian and Luxembourger neighbors, the Rabo development team will go down as one of the sport's wiser investments in some time.
The Rest of the Story...
Who Makes Them Tick:
Denis Menchov and Robert Gesink. Sure, it was nice to see wins on Mont Ventoux by Ardila Garate [fixed!] or the Tour de Belgique by Boom, but Menchov and Gesink are the headliners, point-scorers, and captains. At this point Menchov does little more than go hard after one grand tour a year -- a worthwhile pursuit with three overall wins to his name. Gesink, meanwhile, might show the colors in a few more places than you'd expect. Pegged as a grand tour climber, it was great to see him take the Giro dell'Emilia along with third at Amstel Gold and sixth at Lombardia. Boom, Langeveld and the Classics squad might do big things, maybe even this year, but until then this team revolves around their two GC guys.
Who Might Surprise You:
Sebastian Langeveld. Veteran Rabo watchers might not actually find this surprising. In fact, this team is well-dissected enough to thwart my effort to call anyone a surprise. Still, if you missed it, Langeveld has been off the front of a few important races the past couple springs, but thanks to tactics (see below) or other matters he hasn't had the results to show for it. But the classics reward strength above all else, and though the competition will be intense, Langeveld should be part of the conversation. And if not, look for him in a stage break or two this summer.
Where They will Rise Up:
The Tour de France? We still don't entirely know what Gesink can do in a three week race. He crashed out of the Tour last year, and when he returned in time for the Vuelta, he ran out of gas flesh [fixed!] in the final week. His time trialling is substandard for a champion. But the guy won't turn 24 until the end of the Giro this year, so concerns about his skills and chrono work should be kept in perspective. We do know that when he's feeling at all himself, he can climb the nastiest ascents in the world with the best, and that's a great base to work from. Menchov, meanwhile, will be roundly dismissed as an overall Tour contender, yet another Giro or Vuelta winner struggling in vain to translate that success over to le Grand Boucle. But consider this: he made the Tour podium as recently as 2008, last time he rode Le Tour without having emptied himself in the Giro. And he has a very respectable track record in the Pyrenees, with stage wins in the Tour and the Vuelta, so this year's course should be to his liking. As always, Breukink and co. will have plenty of interesting guys to fill out the roster and chase stages. Oh, and one of these days you'd think Gesink will win La Fleche Wallonne, no?
Where They Will Fall Down:
The Cobbled Classics. Not to sandbag or anything, but I think it's a bit much to expect Langeveld and Boom to break through in Flanders or Paris-Roubaix this year. [N.b., many including Gavia see Boom more as an Ardennes guy anyway.] Langeveld is a better bet for Gent or E3 perhaps. Nuyens can bag the odd result, like his impressive second in Flanders in 2008, but his form seems to come and go each spring. Considering how many other teams are completely loading up to contest these events in 2010, I'd think Rabo have to be realistic and hold back for a full assault on Amstel Gold.
Random, Vaguely Interesting Question:
Does a team learn tactics, or are they doomed to repeat them over and over? In the last few seasons Rabobank have made a name for themselves as a team with loads of ammo but that couldn't shoot straight. They frequently showed their colors at the front of big races, only to leave rivals and reporters shaking their heads over tactics. No better example than last year's Omloop -- memorable for the four-man all-Rabo breakaway that looked fantastic... but had no chance of success. Gavia's post-race chalk talk was one of the most informative tactical breakdowns you could find anywhere, all year. One mistake after another turned what could have been a huge day for Langeveld into a forgettable third place. Read the whole thing, but here's one scene:
Fortunately for the chasers, Rabobank decided to help out. With 23 kilometers to go and the gap at 1.03, Rabobank sent Juan Antonio Flecha up the road. Was Flecha riding for himself? Or did the team car direct his actions? Dekker's post-race comments suggest that it was his idea to send Flecha across to the break. He intended the move not only to reinforce Langeveld in the break, but also to pressure Haussler to keep riding. In theory, it might have made sense, but Flecha's move quickly brought a reaction, first from a Cervèlo rider, then from the chase group. Flecha's move failed, but not before it sped up the chase group, bringing down the gap to the break.
Yikes. So, is this a systematic flaw in the Rabobank machine, or something that can be fixed? Given the above, I have punted the question over to Ms. Magic Crayons. Wisely so. Here's Gav's take:
I think the transfer of Flecha away from the team helps - He seemed to want to be the team leader there, but didn't have the legs to put it into practice. Flecha's a good rider, but he can only win under specific circumstances. He doesn't have the speed for the sprint and he has to get away early. A rider like that makes team tactics difficult, because you can put everything into setting him up, but the race may not go his way. Also, Langevelde has another year of experience in him, and I think having shown what he can do, the DS people will be more likely to give him room to race.
What seemed to me to happen there was two things: they had too many talented riders on a relatively equal level at the same time that the DS didn't seem to understand fully what his riders could do. I think that's probably a risk of having a young team - you aren't always going to be able to judge what a rider can do. By contrast, though, I think Garmin handles this better- they just freakin' send the kids out there and say have fun, get some results. So you have Dan Martin winning Route du Sud and Maaskant riding to a high finish at Roubaix. I suspect it's easier for Garmin, though, because they've been from the start a team dominated by younger riders and had a development aspect to the team where Rabobank has the pressure of a storied past to live up to. Garmin I think is also more about marketing the team on personality than results. The Garmin approach probably wouldn't work in a cycling mad country like the Netherlands.
I think the addition of Boom helps - he's a race-winner. Maybe not immediately, but certainly down the line. I don't, by the way, think he's really a cobbles rider. More Ardennes, Amstel, Brabantse type races. Don't let the 'cross thing lead you astray ;-) Having a rider like that helps - he's going to seize initiative and say yeah, let me ride, don't second guess me. Big talent, and he probably knows what he can do, though it seems that he will pick and choose where he applies himself. Overall, more experience should help avoid further disaster. And, the reshuffling of the roster should also help.
Thanks Gav. I agree, and this brings me back to the opening theme: kids coming up together. These guys haven't been training partners for a decade or anything, but they certainly aren't strangers to each other or management. Gotta help... Also, Flecha is an Army of One. Tot ziens!
Last Words:
In this case, I think I've said enough.
Photo by Bryn Lennon, Getty Images Sport
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You might want to rephrase this sentence:
it was nice to see wins on Mont Ventoux by Ardila
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
Not rephrase it, just correct it
Garate won on ventoux Chris, unless you are predicting an Ardilla win up ventoux in the 2013 Tour.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
D'oh!
Fixing soon
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 6, 2010 4:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Great piece of art! Both of you.. Other thing..
Gesink wasn’t empty at the end of the Vuelta.. This was his problem (SNSFS) But it is a proble.. He didn’t ride FW because of sickness, He crashed in the Tour and in the Vuelta.. There was also the coup in PN 2008 where he lost the leadersjersey downhill.. While Gesink and the whole Rabo will say the opposite.. But there is starting to form a sort of patron/pattern.
But again. Beautiful written!
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
Ew!
Only a flesh wound.
So do we think he has bike handling issues? Or concentration problems? If it’s just bad luck then presumably it will end.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 6, 2010 4:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think it is more of wrong place at wrong time. His Tour crash was on a descent and everybody slammed on the brakes.
Vuelta was just bad luck where he was in the peloton since 30 riders got caught up. He descends well enough so I don’t think his bike handling skills are too bad but maybe his mind lingers.
But if you are real good.. You don't fall..
Prove: Lance with 7 Tours never injured himself badly..
Contador.. Same thing. Excpet the 7 thing
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
What circumstances did Lance break his collarbone in in Giro?
Was he at all fallable for it or simply terrible luck?
But I agree with what was stated above, part of good bike handling and having proper concentration involves riding near the front into corners and roundabouts if wet or in an expected trouble area and not being near or around or following people who lose their heads in crowds and blow corners on descents. Would you follow Frank Schleck’s wheel down a mountain? Or ride beside Zabriskie or Moncoutie or Bos if you expected a hairy turn or finish?
not the giro
meant vuelta castilla y leon before giro. Found some video of the aftermath of pileup but armstrong has already crashed in it and is sitting on the side of the road.
Yep.. But totally other circumstance..
He was just back in the peloton after 2 years and well.. He didn’t win the Tour..
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
Rabo CT has only existed since 2002 according to write-up
And Tankink turned pro in 2001 for Domo-Farm Frites so although he has no ties to it, he appears to pre-date it as well so there seems to be something of an asterisk on that distinction (although he did not join Rabo until 2008 so he certainly developed separate from the team).
yes
I’ve seen mention of Rabobank TT3, which I assume is the early name for the continental team.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 7, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yes it is
“Trade Team 3” was the precursor to “Continental Team” in several incarnations of UCI team categories.
Wait, is it?
Or was TT2 split into ProConti / Conti and what was TT3 is now Non-UCI? (like Garmin’s 2nd team). Anyway, for Rabo it’s TT3→Conti.
Nice. There is a video of Rabosport.nl of Tom Leezer or Veelers.. Crap.. Why haven't they separate-able normal names..
But point is.. They are finally setting up a train for Oscar Freire. 5 men included:
Nick Nuyens, Maarten Tjalingi, Lars Boom, Tom Leezer, Oscar Freire. Perfect train for let’s say Gent-Wevelgem? Also curious to see if they are going to use it on other races.. And glad they finally give the support a top sprinter earns..
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
If Freire can get over 16 climbs to make it to the finish and they would have to shut down the breakaways...
He might have some kick left in him but he could help tutor some off the up and coming fast guys like Van Winden.
You know the AGR? He got 8th there.. Was there until the Cauberg.. G-W must bee a piece of cake..
Only he’s getting old. He has the punch in smaller groups but does he have the speed for a G-W finish? I doubt it.. Also unsure ‘bout the train.. Like this train is going to beat CTT’s train.. Kwa potential, d’uuuh it’s Rabo,, but they are inexperienced.. And van Winden? That’s a fast guy.. But his first year with the pro’s.. And certainly not a bunch sprinter.. They lost Bos and van Poppel for the real work..
(oh crap.. I’m again commenting way to much on a Rabo topic.. Sorry for that)
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
+1
It’s what we pay you for
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 6, 2010 7:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ok thanks..
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
surely they will have help with breaks and such
A team like Sky if there will work for defending champ Boss Hog. I know he won from a break (with Kucysinski?) last year but I think it was only like last 50 or 60 km when it broke and he had the strength to be there anyway. I just think the pack will be large enough and enough teams will have a guy with a sprint-ish finish that it makes sense to at least try to win with Freire and get guys in any other promising breaks.
Situation GW
Breakaway after 30km with 20 a 30 riders.. Every team had someone in there so no need to chase. On the Kemmelberg the race exploded and there were 9 man left.. And if you see the history.. It’s 1 year breakaway, other year sprint.
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
Was
In past years a big factor has been weather, and if it was bad, then because PR was in a few days teams would pack it in early and the breaks would succeed. Big change now. It’s a harder race, but the finale will probably be medium-sized, not a lone group.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 7, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Finish is still 35km of flat
and I don’t think the climbs are particularly difficult, even if there are more of them.
I’d consider Cavendish the favourite,personally. Though obviously crosswinds could be important
From
http://www.youtube.com/user/RaboSportTV
a mutual interview between Mauricio Ardila & Dmitriy Kozontchuk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrqLGvxPcZ0
Strange combo isn't it?
"Here the high school level of immaturity will be left to hottitude columns and people like myself." Der Phil. H
I presume that your entire VdS Team will be supporting this Dutch Hegemony.
Wigglypuff Cav Crunch, Breakfast of Madison Champions!

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