Tirreno-Adriatico Stage 3 ..... LIVE
by Jens on Mar 12, 2010 6:30 AM EST
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Well guys, what can I say? Another day, another sprint. Today's 159 km between San Miniato and Monsummano Terme doesn't offer much hope for the non-sprinters but you never know.
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RESULT! A massespurt. No Boonen today, Liquigas wanted it more.
- Daniele Bennati, Liquigas
- Alessandro Petacchi, Lampre
- Bernhard Eisel, HTC
- Tyler Farrar, Gamin
- Juan Antonio Flecha, Team Sky
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"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
helloooo ... echo echo
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
dark, dank, deep...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Is that like 'the woods'?
‘are dusty, dark and deep, and I have promises to keep’ but more importantly to cycling, ‘miles to go before I sleep.’
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Why thank you. It makes up for my Keats ignorance..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So do you think it will another Boonen win today?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No. you always tell us who'll win before the race starts.
You have the courage of your convictions.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Cadel says if he was betting, it would be on Boonen..
and that Liquigas are also in fine form..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I am looking forward to this more than Paris-Nice..
still possible that more than one person may yet win.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Thor is struggling.
Yesterday he was “not able to sprint”.. And Edvald does not seem to be in top form either. I sincerely hope EBH is knee deep in training for the classics. But MSR is just a week away. It does not look good for the Norwegian “sprinters”.
CTT have been having issues with sprint haven't they?
EBH isn’t on my team, but i wouldn’t write him off just yet.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
In the past yes. But here they have delievered Thor in a good position prior to the sprints.
But he exploded on the finishing str8 on both occasions. Yesterday he was 6th into the finishing str8 and finished 34th. He is not in shape possibly due to the fact that his preparations have been complicated by illness this season. I’m not one to write Edvald off. But he is usually able to get into a good position prior to the sprints. Not so in Italy. And I wonder why. Still early days though.
It may be a combination of the lack of experience of the lead-out train in these conditions?
Some of the more experienced guys are at P-N. I think the cold is draining too, even for a Norwegian ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Last years top ten: Cavendish, Haussler, Hushovd, Davis, Pettachi, Bennati, Galdós, Rossi, Paolini and Velits.
None of them seem in shape to kill it next week… That’s just very odd.
Plus, in 2008, of all 2009 top 10 finishers only Hushovd finished well (9th). And the year before that, it also had 9 different top 10 finishers!
So really, this just makes me dizzy. We have no clue whatsoever who will win Milan-San Remo.
If it would be a sprint, at this moment I’d pick Boonen.
Cadel Evans is picking Boonen now, and he's a cautious man.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Seahorse, this may be an incongruous question as it is very personal..
but I’ll risk it. In your opinion, hhich aspects of Keats’s poetry and life does Tony Harrison emulate in A Kumquat for John Keats?
It's not personal when i have no idea, although I'm embarrassed to admit it.
If runitout or drongo was here, they’d probably know. Is it a ‘serious’ question/ if it is, can you give me a link please? I’m curious now. or have I just made a fool of myself?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It's a comparison to, not a comparison with
Keats died young. Harrison was middle aged when he wrote that.
The fruit is both bitter a sweet; a symbol f life’s futility and its richness- also a symbol of sin. He’s saying- look how you described grapes- but if you’d grown older, more weary of life, more aware of its possibilities and impossibilities, you’d have plumper for cumquats, which are a more complex and satisfying fruit.
That’s about it, really.
by Runitout on Mar 12, 2010 7:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I meant 'plumped'
The iPhone does auto correct on me all the time
by Runitout on Mar 12, 2010 7:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Now I need to find Harrison's poem...
Thank you. did you immediately know the poem? I feel crushed..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
http://kumquat7.blogspot.com/2004/09/kumquat-for-john-keats-by-tony.html
Here u go. I really like the poem, but I’m not sure if I can write 5 pages on the “aspects of the life and poetry of J. Keats emulated” therein.
I think you need to make friends with runitout...
his analysis is excellent. When is the paper due?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
How melancholy dwelled inside delight
Is using the complex taste of fruit as a metaphor for life. I love metaphysical poetry- and this is every bit as good as Marvell or Donne.
by Runitout on Mar 12, 2010 7:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
So is poetry your favourite form of literature?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I wondered if it was for uni/ school...
So how many words? Is that the whole question?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So is that the whole topic above?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Okay. I can help, but maybe this is an email thing...
It’s nearly midnight here. Have you started?
Alternatively, I think you could put this up as an O/T thread and you’d probably have a complete essay by the time I get up.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That is awfully generous of you. However, I think I will have to try to manage largely on my own. :)
No worries..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
My students have to use 1.5. Otherwise writing on paper is difficult.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Teachers write on students' papers in Oz.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I use a tablet pc: even writing in margins is virtual
unless I insert a voice comment . . .
A vague topic like that i a challenge to see if students can invent the terms of analysis and comparison on their own:
You’re gonna need some familiarity with Keats’s life and some analysis of the features of poetry displayed in the kumquats poem that also appear in Keats to form the foundation of your paper.
Find a few terms of comparisons in those big groupings, and I’d suspect that you could get 10 pages—if you analyze and quote from relevant works and poems adequately.
I agree Holden, and R Mc is the man for the occasion.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
If I had to write virtual comments, it would take me twice as long
because I’m an appalling typist. I edit online though.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Wonder which one that might be...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I was being ironic,
but I’m not averse to fences or walls ..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I give up :(
My only excuse is that it’s late…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
it's sort of a virtual scream really, isn't it?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Obviously too technical for me to have known about..
and virtually all unis in Australia are public, so mine isn’t exactly a haven for technology…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
He's good isn't he?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
i hope that doesn't mean 'podium'..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Boonen was apparently fined yesterday
for whipping it out in front of the spectators. Apparently someone reported him to the commisaires.
And yet others would have paid to see it..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Their contributions probably covered the fine...
"To therefore answer your basic question what color socks should I wear, I issue the bold statement wear white shoes." - King of Style
by omnevelnihil on Mar 12, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And right now
A smart thinker in the crowd who recorded it on their phone is building a website to sell the download at a very reasonable price.
"To therefore answer your basic question what color socks should I wear, I issue the bold statement wear white shoes." - King of Style
by omnevelnihil on Mar 12, 2010 8:23 AM EST up reply actions
Well others may have been complaining of the cold, but tom had worked up a sweat...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Possibly not quite...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
See Australians try to raise the tone and then Jens comes along... what can you do?
well really holdenmate started the poetry riff, but any Norwegian with his name has convict forebears..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And this is a 'bah' and 'podium' free thread..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
this just in from commissaire's ticker:
“it’s with melancholy sweetness that we have fined the appearing of Boonen’s bos”
Really? Was it a google translate?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
If you saw how many things I haven't 'got' tonight
this latest lapse wouldn’t surprise you..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
nice descent there.... 9.5km to go
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Good point to come in at!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Bruce, will you wait 30 seconds before you post winner pleas ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Thank you..
I try not to peek, but it’s always so tempting..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
7.8 k's to go
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
"k's"?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
btw, for those interested and have it, ctv will have dwars door vlaanderen on the 24th
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
i really wish they would stop doing that
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
the feed i was watching pn on yesterday only flipped over when ignatiev went on the last little try
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
You didn't saw the summary...
Well.. A donkey doesn’t bang his foot not twice at the same time… Podiumcafe 500 times
by Frinking on Mar 12, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good. I'd hate to be on my own here.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
would it be so dang difficult for them to put a graphic "replay" up under the eurosport logo?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
ES still continue to tell us about yesterday
when they’ve just shown a highlights package immediately before!!! Give us some live stuff! ggrrr
Lead, Follow, or get out of the way!
it is working now
click on the here link above, then just let the fun (?) little ad run for a minute first
gap 2.05
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
"allez 10 meters . . . come on!"
Difference between a pro and me: no way I’d yell at a moto to get out of my draft . . .
yeah but think of the exhaust fumes!
HAHA love the wonderful world that ES commentators live in
Lead, Follow, or get out of the way!
by steviedexter on Mar 12, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Y'all aren't keeping me awake, here.
Everybody over in the P-N thread?
It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen
I saw a pic on Twitter of John-Lee Augustyn with pins stuck in his leg.
Are cyclists especially likely to use acupuncture because they have to be so careful with meds?
It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen
I've lost my TA feed =(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Anybody Else Notice...
…the guy in the CSC jersey being passed by the peloton? Major fail by the race referees not to get him off the road.
by Chief Commissaire on Mar 12, 2010 9:54 AM EST reply actions
Euskaltel Uniform
Does anyone know if Euskaltel changed their uniform’s this year? It seems different or maybe my eyesight is getting worse.
Alpe Du Huez is my favorite place on earth!!!!!!
Uniform
Guess its time to go the eye doctor. Thanks
Alpe Du Huez is my favorite place on earth!!!!!!
Maybe it was the jacket that made it look different.
It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen
Shut up Bruce
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yes
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oy
no audio. Picture looks incredible though…
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Massespurt today
LIQ seem pretty excited.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Being manhandled by Boonen is "Good Times".
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
hm
yes, slight break coming off that climb.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Ginanni, Visconti, Garzelli, Scarponi
power in that break. Garmin had better chase. LIQ too.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
scratch that
LIQ have two guys up there
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
24km in Paris Nice
so you can catch both endings
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
People wonder how we can watch Giro and ToC at the same time.
This is much more difficult, good training.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
The Time Difference...
…means the two races will not overlap.
by Chief Commissaire on Mar 12, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
VINNY!
I still say it comes back, not enough sprinters.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
7 guys
rest is a bit of a mess. Oh, Pellizotti, yeah, he can sprint. Bah!
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Ginanni on the loose?
This break is a mess.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Break is attacking each other
That doesn’t look good.
Chase looks relaxed
WTF?
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Wait, don't tell me
MRM have the jersey and everyone’s looking to them to chase. Bah!
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Lone cow
on the front. No firepower.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Stuey!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Break almost done
maybe 3"
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
They'll get em.
But still messy. Someone could fly off and win it seem like. Nobody is organized
And the I team
are sitting up.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
OK Garmin,
get to work.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Sky in there
silverbacks easy to spot.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
good nickname for them
can we make it stick?
by thebongolian on Mar 12, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I intend to
I mean, those patches with the spine? Total silverbacks. It’s uncanny.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Pippo!
Hm. Beware attack.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Cav??
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Farrar 5th wheel!
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Benna!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
he did
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Nice try Tyler
Doesn’t have the firepower yet.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Bozic I think
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Flecha 5th??
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
I would like to know that O'Grady's okay..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Please no. I think he thinks this is near the end..
I can’t even make jokes about it.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
LIQ
were totally in charge today. Not that anyone challenged them.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Cant help I'm afraid
Didn’t catch sight of him in the last 2km – but assume he must have been around as QS did all the work to bring the break back.
Having two leaky up in that break just one part of a masterful day at the office for them
Always dangerous when you start referring to yourself in the third person..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That is ridiculously awesome.
"To therefore answer your basic question what color socks should I wear, I issue the bold statement wear white shoes." - King of Style
by omnevelnihil on Mar 12, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm.. Strange TA..
Liquigas is freaking hell strong.. Serious.. 2 stages in PN and they were with 3 a 4 Liqui’s in a 12 men breakaway which was caught 1 km to go and then they had 3 Liquigas to form a train for Bennati….
Also Andy Schleck parked on the last hill.. Not looking good for the classics. Vino and Zeits also on 2 minutes. I hope that was because of a crash. Also P. Velits is distanced yesterday.. Not a good sign.
And what’s wrong with Davis?! Even a half Freire finished in the peloton..
for GC rest:
Gerdemann, Martens, Breschel, Evans, Ginnani, Hesjedal, Iglinsky, Nibali, Albasini, Rogers, Gesink, Nuyens, Uran, F. Masciarelli, Pozzovovio, Pellizotti, Vaugrenard and Visconti… Long list!
Short ls:
Whole Rabo.
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