Countdown to the Cobbles: Italian Holiday!
The Countdown is pleased to take a brief respite from the grey skies of our native Flanders for a holiday of basking in the sunshine on the Italian Riviera. Yes, it's MSR week, where we put mud and cold behind us for a beauty of a more... obvious sort. With temperatures in the upper 50s, it's time to shed the wool layers and black socks, lay out on the beach for some vitamin D replenishment, and generally dry out. Should be a lovely week...
3. Everyone Else Will Win
With Tom Boonen firmly installed (cough) as the favorite to win Milano-Sanremo, the Man from Mol is fighting back with every bag of sand he has, telling Sporza:
Daniele Bennati is the main favorite for me. Maybe not the most likely name, but he is good at driving, like his Liquigas team. Perhaps Liquigas drives the same tactics as us: a long, hard race and a sprint with a depleted group in Sanremo.
Is it me or does he sound a bit unpersuaded by his own words? Like a guy who feels unbelievably confident but has to go through the motions of talking down his chances? Maybe it's a language translation thing.
[Speaking of translations, my favorite Dutch word of the week is "klopt," as in, "Boasson Hagen klopt Petacchi in massesprint." Google tells me it literally means "true" but it translates to "beats" in context. It also sounds exactly like what happens when you hit someone in the helmet with a wooden shoe -- onomatopoeia that also works as a metaphor for vanquishing an enemy. Want me to use it in a sentence? Here goes: I will klopt Ursula in the VDS this week, mark my, um, words.]
Anyway, Bennati thinks Freire will win. Freire is picking Petacchi. Petacchi picks Allan Davis. Davis has tabbed Hushovd as a "sure thing." Hushovd says the pressure is all on Farrar. Farrar thinks Cavendish has another trick up his sleeve. And Cav is picking... OK, himself. Hey, it's worked before. Oh, and Bwin has installed as the favorite... Andre Greipel. Who isn't on the startlist. Can I get a bet down there?
2. Meanwhile, Back on the Cobbles...
What, there's an actual cobbled race today? That would be Nokere-Koerse, which loops around Greater Nokere for a few hours. The best description you'll likely find in English is here. Bottom line: it tends to finish in a sprint, despite the line being at the top of the Nokereberg, a 350-meter cobbled hill in the 5% incline range. Along with Sunday's Ronde van het Groene Hart, Nokere-Koerse is a great opportunity for smaller teams or riders on the big squads who weren't chosen for the Italian Vacation to make a name for themselves before every last classics guy on the planet descends on Brussels Airport sometime Sunday afternoon. In short, for the guys at these two races, this is a big deal.
The races themselves don't seem much alike; Nokere-Koerse dates back to 1944 (huh?) and runs the Vlaamse Ardennen while the Green Heart Course kicked off in 2007 and rides around the flat Holland provinces. But spring racing is never easy, and weather or strategy can turn either one into a relatively hard or, um, less hard day in the saddle. So bike racers will race their bikes in interesting ways... but one way would make this even more interesting: if someone pulled off the Forgotten Double. With only three years in common it hasn't happened yet, but Wouter Weylandt won both a year apart. He's not here, so it's up to someone else. Like Jens Keukeleire. Full startlist here. Neither RTBF nor Sporza show signs of live video. Bummer...
1. Locked and Loaded
El Pistolero himself, Alberto Contador, will set foot in Belgium with the intent to race his bicycle, as he apparently has committed to riding La Fleche Wallonne and Liege-Bastogne-Liege. He has ditched the Vuelta a Pais Vasco and Volta a Catalunya in order to ride the Classics this year, for the first time since 2007. He will also ride the Criterium International/Jens Voigt Invitational, facing Lance Armstrong in a race for the first time since the 2005 Tour. It's been a while since a Tour winner did something in the Ardennes, but sure would make for good fun.
Cuddles' Corner!
"Yesterday Edvald Boasson Hagen won a stage of Tirreno Adriatico and celebrated by flapping his arms, alternating left and right, in a shameful, terrible display. Obviously this guy is going to win more than his share of races, so something must be done about this. Can the Podium Cafe solve his problem and design a victory salute for the Lillehammer Lightning?"
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In answer to Cuddles challenge
I think EBH obviously needs a salute that is simple and not too energy-consuming since, you know, he’s going to be doing it a lot. I propose he celebrate by slowly rubbing his right nipple with his fingers in a circular motion. It’s simple, energy-neutral , subtle and sensual enough to fend off all rumors that norwegians are asexual. Don’t know where that rumor came from.
Swinging Elbows
Let’s everyone know he owns the road, so you have to stay out of his way.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
My counter-proposition is that EBH keeps his current victory celebration..
(which happens to be awesome and seemingly spontaneous and fun) and focuses on sprinting in a more energy effective fashion (i.e in a str8 line perpendicular to the finish line. Any takers?
I think a simple way for EBH to improve his victory salute
would just be to not do it. Just don’t do anything if necessary. That would be better.
Weylandt
Nice that he won both races once but he is not on the start list on any of them this year. Why did I put him on my VDS team?
Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.
Since sleep is avoiding me, it should be noted that there is live feed for Nokere-Koerse starting around 15:00 CET
but I don’t have anybody there so I am hoping somebody beats Graeme Brown.
And it seems that The Holy One’s odds are at 150.00 for MSR…Seems like a lock to me.
Do you have a link??
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
yeah, there should be a live thread up soon but there is still an hour and a half till TV time
but here
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 17, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks so much!!!
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
klopt
is 2nd and 3rd person singular present tense of verb kloppen (to knock, beat). So, if you must, “I will kloppen” :)
Oh,
The translation “true” comes from our phrase “dat klopt” = that is true (we also have a literal, more formal equivalent: dat is waar). So, another meaning for the verb. By the way, kloppen in a sporting context (to beat in competition) is more Flemish than Dutch. Northerners would sooner use verslaan (seems related to slay! Mini Phinney pricks up his ears) as in: EBH verslaat Petacchi, or use the variant “klop geven” (give a knock, more or less).
Hello rbjhan. It really is that simple ;-)
You could also say ‘kaixo’, which is a bit like ‘hi’, or ‘ongi etorri’ if you want to welcome someone. Your lesson for the day :)
Could we say "Klopt Dat" as
“True dat?” Or at least, can I?
"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."
With the exception of pilsener
Right?
Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.
or
for non-consumptive purposes. Oranjeboom is an excellent spraying beer.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
it's not bad you know
4 for £2.75 in my local off licence. very drinkable.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
I thought that versluit
was Dutch for cream, but according to Google it actually means “fresh lute” So I just thought I’d offer that for the benefit of all Scandinavians here.
It's not a word
Google tried to make something of it by breaking it up: vers luit. Which also doesn’t mean anything but could be translated word-for-word as fresh lute (the musical instrument), I guess.
Very useful.
Well, perhaps not as much as ‘Deze meneer betaalt alles,’ but interesting just the same.
It's fun to beat Cancellara--Edvald Boasson Hagen
verslaaen - more viking ancestry up north?
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
wow
wie “klopfen” und “wahr”
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Mar 17, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
annoying language
Het klopt dat hij al geklopt was toen hij op de deur klopte. Google translates that one understandably.
I think it should be
‘I will klop him’ in Fringlish.
Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.
I dunno
the extra “t” completes the wooden shoe-hitting sound rather nicely.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
"perhaps Liquigas drives the same tactics as us"
makes sense, seeing as leaky have been doing a pretty good job of leading out boonen so far this season
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
good one
"Awesome! is more about what gets fans excited than what’s harder to do." - Chris...
by ZoeRochelle on Mar 17, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
His Victory Celebration?
He should pull a cross out of his back pocket and ride over the line with it on his shoulder
Moo
shed the black socks... got it.
Fun report, I love the drumbeating here building towards a big race.
EBH- it might be harsh, but maybe they could relegate Eddy for sprinting like he did yesterday and that might get his attention to straighten up. The flailing monkey arm celebration, hmmm, it’s different.
Sat. morning group ride, to skip or not to skip, that is the question.
In a sentence: MSR will kloppen everyone.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Some one needs to get his attention, if he doesn't do better and it becomes the norm then it'll get messy.
Freire already has said racing against these young guys scares him, he doesn’t like to mix it up with them too often.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
i already scheduled a saturday
afternoon ride….
"Racing bikes is for the kids, the rest of us just want to feel like kids on our bikes" - Flying Dog
One of Ice Cream Boy's charms is his unaffectness
the flailing monkey arms victory salute is a big part of that. I say he keeps it.
(Ned Boulting and Matt Rendell call him Ice Cream Boy in their podcast because his nickname was Hagen-Dazs on Columbia)
"Awesome! is more about what gets fans excited than what’s harder to do." - Chris...
9 hours later....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ha ha ha
ha
smile.
Chris klopting me. Good one. I got Oscarito, Farrar, Ginanni, and Hooter as my front line at MSR. Roelandts, Nuyens, Uran, Maaskant, Van Summeren along to see the sights. You? What do you got? And everyone else too! A little MSR smackdown
it
was just an example
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
One of these days these boots are gonna klopt all over you...
… are you ready boots?
I miss Paolo Bettini. That is all.
Wait... MSR is on Saturday!??!
I GET TO WATCH IT! (provided I can find a feed)
I miss Paolo Bettini. That is all.
you will. They are aplenty. I too gave up CTV this year.
"Awesome! is more about what gets fans excited than what’s harder to do." - Chris...
My EBH celebration submission
Furious, two-fisted chest pounding. Gorilla style. Maybe even some hooting. I say they shouldn’t reject the “silverbacks”, they should own it. In honor of one of the few creatures on earth truly more interesting than people.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
I think Greipel
already has that victory salute spoken for.
"Today I was honked at...I caught up and made a great honking noise back...he caught up and said I'm gonna punch you in the face...I laughed."
~DZ
what about 'beccos
on the interestingness scale?
"The road is our agony, but also our daily bread; and at night, when it is deserted and the moon glistens on the asphalt, the ridiculous dreams of racers like us pass up and down it."
--Dino Buzzati
lunchmeat
for the undead? Not that interesting.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
Although a victory salute of his holding his arms out limply...
… lolling his tongue and screaming “braaaaaiiinnnssss” would be unique…
I miss Paolo Bettini. That is all.
You could complete it by
flinging feces at your opponents. I think everyone would remember that.
"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."
It was worth it
I now have plenty of room to move around when it comes to the last 50m.
"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."
Gorillas
are not chimps.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
But they are apes.
And apes have been known to fling their shit. Don’t make me come out there to prove my point.
"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."
lots of good options
"The road is our agony, but also our daily bread; and at night, when it is deserted and the moon glistens on the asphalt, the ridiculous dreams of racers like us pass up and down it."
--Dino Buzzati

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