Done.

Respect…
And welcome.. Although you’re entrance isn’t that great..

That makes it much better. Funnier too… I love jokes about running cyclists down.

We’re punchy because we get buzzed everyday and watch our friends die. But thanks for egging the status quo along.

… nope. Not much funny about this. Not here in California, not after Dr. Road Rage deliberately destroyed a couple of peoples’ faces, bodies and lives. Call it too soon… or… really… just not funny.

And it’s noted that we here at the cafe have a morbid sense of funny… and this isn’t funny.

not funny. You’re entitled to your opinion, if you’re here to talk cycling, then I welcome you. But I am not willing to let this go.

And that is not a Lebowski quote.

I’ve read this elsewhere today that it is a joke and should not be taken seriously. While there are many responses already, let me add mine.

It is not a joke because you are advocating serious violence against another human being. While you may think it is silly or funny to make contact with a cyclist with an automobile, it is not. There are many people who believe it is OK to act this way – just look at the comments linked above. This causes many serious injuries every day.

Additionally, the tone and tenor of the comments do not make it clear that it is a joke. Many, if not the vast majority of people, hearing the comments will take them seriously. This adds to the idea that cyclists do not belong on the road and any injury received by the cyclist is acceptable.

I suggest getting out and riding a bicycle. Its fun, doesn’t pollute, improves your health, and decreases our energy needs. You might also understand why many people don’t find this humorous.

nicely said

I didn’t spend my time listening to the show, but contacted ESPN management with my opinion. The ESPN980 site shows IBM, Werner Ladders, Progressive Insurance and P90X as advertisers on the site. Let the money know you’re upset.

Kornheiser must go—unless you like having this generation’s Jimmy the Greek sticking his foot up your corporate backside every couple of months.

First you had to suspend him over his ridiculous comments about Hannah Storm.

And now he advocates—whether in jest or not—motorists running over cyclists.

Wait . . . instead of firing him . . . how about you make him interview Christian Stoehr and Ron Peterson. Or, make him take some safe-cycling lessons . . .

R Mc

It doesn’t take long, maybe five minutes tops.

Get OUT of the kitchen….
The guy cant even stand behind what he says. Lets not let this slide away.

but I’m not going to ESPN to check the brackets.

That’s the real problem, the cultural attitude that we’re blots in a video game and you can run us over for sport. That’s why the joke isn’t funny.

but he just got suspended for making sexist remarks. I think a second bout of insensitivity might be pretty costly to him.

gets you canned. I am hoping that is the end result.

but sometimes you do have to be the change you want:

Get a road bike; ride it—but ride responsibly and defensively: make eye-contact at intersections, wave to oncoming vehicles, give cars approaching behind you that you know they’re coming. Ride a straight-line, follow traffic laws, etc.

What most drivers will never admit is that they over-react to cyclists because THEY don’t know how to drive around us: and this inability is OUR fault. Classic case of projection. Combine that with the Power Rangers syndrome (drivers tend to think like superheroes because they’re driving a ton of metal) and you have a dangerous combination—which can be defused a little bit by a). making them recognize you as a fellow human (where the eye-contact and signalling comes in) and b). suggesting to them that you know what you’re doing, which reduces their anxiety a bit.

These points won’t work with all drivers, of course . . .

Like all boycotts, the implication is that if they respond, we will come back. They need to take some action. If they won’t do it out of responsibility, then they need to know we’re serious. That’s my pitch anyway.

    People are being killed, people are being crippled every day. I’m lucky enough to not have a tragedy in my own circle, I don’t want to wait until that happens to get serious about the issue. Asking people to respect life is worth missing a few games and being able to ride my bike with a sense of reasonable safety is better than a sports network.

He talks from ignorance, thats why many people in general dislike his attitude. Hes offensive sometimes and needs to be brought back down to Earth by some good, honest outrage.

Are you talking about here? Read again. Kornheiser is the one who advocated violence—people here at Podium Cafe are working correctly within the system to call him to task for his statements.

I would advocate sending TK your personal stories of tragedy, as well as letters to ESPN, make him feel the sorrow and pain caused by not only his words, but by the attitude itself./blockquote>

 Again, have you read this thread at all? That’s exactly what people are doing—sending messages and complaints to Kornheiser and ESPN. If you’re going to sign up specifically to contribute to a thread, I suggest you please actually read it.

I am relatively tranquilo (I have yet to demand Jihad) /// but the stats on cycling deaths is scary …. the intolerance (especially in anglo countries) is disgusting, and the pointlessness of it all so sad.

I had a couple of cyclists ahead of me today … tight road through village …. went slow….. then passed them. 7 seconds of my life gone forever.

    Kornheiser gets paid and he doesn’t measure his words, and then you defend him. Somehow I think that is backwards. If he yells fire in a crowded theater in your mind that’s funny, regardless of how many people get injured, you got a chuckle so it’s good? He should be held accountable for his words, especially him, it’s his profession. Real people are on the road riding their bicycles, they have that right and Kornheiser shouldn’t be allowed to trample those rights because he can get a few laughs.

https://online.statefarm.com/apps/contactSF/pages/commentsSuggestions.asp

This was the response I received (rather quickly I might add):

Thank you for sending us your comments and concerns. Although I wasn’t listening to the show you are referring to this situation has been brought to my attention and of course we don’t condone such ridiculous remarks and will discuss this matter further with the stations managers. Please don’t assume that just because we advertising on ESPN980 and Tony’s show that we share the same beliefs or condone his actions.
 
WINDOW NATION

Go Lance!

I might even tune in.

I hope he gives him a good smack down(figurative….well) or else this could end up only promoting his show more. I like the idea of Lance going on a rival radio show more but maybe he can talk some sense into Kornheiser.

Good for Armstrong. Though I must say, what does it mean at this point for the guy to be “sorry”? These remarks don’t sound like they were off the cuff – sounds to me like they were clearly thought out. Seems to make any apology pretty meaningless, I mean this will still be what he’s thinking.

Reminds me of a few years ago when Tim Hardaway (former basketball star) had an anti-gay outburst. The problem was, it wasn’t an outburst – he was responding to a former player who had come out, and Hardaway went into this detailed discussion of why he disliked gays. Then he loses a bunch of gigs and is suddenly contrite! Sounds like this is what’s going on here.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m really glad Armstrong is doing this. But what if it were, say, Ted King who was speaking up? I bet the guy wouldn’t be “very sorry 4 his comments” then.

well, ESPN is buying the TK brand for profit. The TK brand comes with the shtick. All I ask of them is to make a statement. If TK uses his show tomorrow to say with some sincerity that he was wrong, and ESPN publicizes the affair and condemns his comments, then I will personally feel satisfied.

does not want to talk about cycling :)

just carries TK’s jock, if I’m not mistaken. If Kornheiser lost his gig, “Kevin” would too.

also plays host on other station shows.

is obvious…

yup very well put

must be a big gear ;)

…but actually saying he would (or endorsing others to) do harm on others is over the top. It’s not something that needs to be advertised because enough of it happens all on it’s own.

He’s a pinhead.

Yeah, the apology will be manufactured crap, the great thing would be for Armstrong to say “you know I really shouldn’t be having this conversation with you, because you should either be suspended or fired,” and maybe follow it up with “you’re an idiot.” Anyways no matter what he says, something tells me Armstrong will be very good in this situation. Well see.

haha!

I added a little to what you said, as i fear the verbatim statement from multiple individuals will have less effect than making some changes;
During his show on March 11, 2010, Mr. Kornheiser advocated violence against anyone riding a bicycle on a public road. Specifically, Mr. Kornheiser stated "Run them down, like Wile Coyote’s, run them over." he repeated his assertions that drivers should simply run over cyclists several times during the broadcast. This was not a one-time statement that he retracted later in the show, but something he said repeatedly and vehemently, even when his co-host/guests tried to temper his insanity. Advocating violence against cyclists or any individuals is intolerable. Cyclists die every day in the United States because of the American tendency to regard roads as the sacred domain of the automobile, and automobiles as weapons. This ranting by Mr. Kornheiser could certainly incite some already dangerous drivers into actually committing these acts. This is not some harmless blowing off of steam, but a call to arms.

ah it’s already on?

I must say this doesn’t satisfy me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m very thankful to Armstrong and all that. But I think that only some form of punishment would be enough in this case.

they’re talking about healthcare now.

mispronounces his name. Nobody is safe.

besides his good taste in coffee.

Say what you will about Lance, he certainly does recognize his place in the cycling world. The most significant thing in that interview (IMO) is once near the beginning and again at the end, he kinda points out the power he & TK wield in their respective media spotlights and how they shouldn’t take that power lightly.

OTOH, “the rants are over”? Why don’t I believe that? ETKPMO, anyone?

has chosen Tiago Machado as one of their “Fab 4” to watch this season (along with Fredrik Kessiakoff, Rein Taaramae, and Arthur Vichot.) There is a fabulous article in there, I highly recommend it!

It is issue #136, with the headline “Classics Kings” on the front cover, with a photo of Thor and HH on it. See it here.

Does Poland still like us?

hehe, the québécois say “Ils l’ont, les Américains” (comes from a movie and worked its way into popular lingo), kind of a general…um…amazement that just sums everything up perfectly ;)