Gent-Wevelgem .........LIVE
by Jens on Mar 28, 2010 4:00 AM EDT
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Welcome to the new and improved Gent-Wevelgem, now available for your viewing pleasure on a Sunday. It used to be uncomfortably caught between a rock and a hard flemish place but could now be a major target for the biggest riders in it's own right. "Zien" as Van Gavia always says.
Live video at 14:30 CEST (08:30 AM US eastern, 23:30 AEDT)
Look for links at cyclingfans, steephill, Myp2p, and BVLS. In the meantime, here's a live ticker to tide you over.
Official site, Startlist and Parcourse.
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Have fun to all PdC'ers that are on the cobbles
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
Well 3rd is better than nothing...
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
Well...
I tend to go by the philosophy of 2nd is the worst spot since your first loser and 3rd is just happy to be there…=]
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions
understandable
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Evening all
Is this where we come to discuss geology and literature? Or perhaps we could just talk about how friggin’ awesome Tony is :-). Yeah, let’s talk about His Fabulous Swissness… I hear he won a race the other day…
And where were you? It was very quiet without you...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Where was I... when?
Oh – last night? Trying to sleep. Got about 6hrs in the end, so I’m calling it a victory :-)
Reading Chris Anker Sörensen's book this morning
which is a Tourdiary from 2009 basically. Lots of good Fabian stories.
Oooh!
… and you’ll be translating and posting excerpts here for us?!
Please Jens... take a leaf out of Yeehoo's book..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Time permitting
some surprising observations on riders in there. Relevant today on Juan Antonio Flecha:
“He’s really a (fool/idiot) in the peloton. He can actually be really nice personally but in the field he’s really annoying.Pushing at weird moments. Squeezing into the rotation when we are sitting a few guys riding tempo. That kind of thing……………And Flecha isn’t very nice in the peloton. That’s why he’s become so unpopular.”
Interesting...CAS may not end up being well loved in the peloton either...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Eh, he is just telling it how it is. Not everybody is nice about their work
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions
True... telling tales in public while you're still riding is not great form..
That said, I’d love to read it. And I don’t think ‘telling it like it is’ is always a good idea… or kind.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
The thing is
the book is based on voicerecorded diary entries made by CAS in his debut TdF. A lot of it is “feelings in the moment” stuff. Obviously edited but often it reflects the cranky and fatigued state of a rider in a GT. And CAS is basically deep in the hurtbox by stage 2 or 3 and it shines through. None of it is the stuff of scandals though.
Gotcha...yeah, saying somebody is annoying in the peloton isn't a scandal
especially when you say he has a lovely personality off the bike
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about scandals I'm talking about being a bitch...
even if you aren’t normally. letting it all hang out is not cool.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yep. I get that... I'm just not sure it's wise..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I don't even know what that means,
but I’m probably meant to laugh :(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Framepump through the spokes...
or a way of saying deliberately crashed.
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks...
The crash could come if Saxo folds and some other riders would prefer not to have him on the team..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yeah but think if somebody said something about Graeme Brown being a crazy sprinter
and can’t control his bike…I am sure nobody would kick up dust because he is a pretty wild sprinter.
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Because the peloton don't read Danish?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Really... I don't..
but
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
If it's juicy enough it finds it's way out there pretty fast
feltet.dk is one site that the Velonation folks steal news from on a regular basis.
I think this is philosophical... and that said, i'd read it.
I do however believe that it is unwise to dis. the people with whom you have to work. I think CAS got bad advice, but I’m sure his bank account says otherwise.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I see your point but dear lord, who would follow any sport
if all we got were the streamlined platitudes from well-neutered and media trained athletes?
Dear lord... i don't know the answer..
and I’m not interested in the platitudes either.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I know. i still believe it's not a good idea. you don't have to agree.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And I have no idea what 'obv'..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
i would suppose "obvious" or "observant". but, then again, it's frinking we're talking about here
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I know I'm being patronised, I'm not entirely sure why in this instance ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
i wasn't patronizing you...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
You weren't! Frinky was ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
What's obvious? I know what the contraction was for.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
ah, apologies then.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Well obv. it wasn't obv. to me ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
mmrroww!!
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Also I wonder if the old man
listens to Boonen’s jumpstyle song
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
On the subject of Tony...
… I am starting to wonder what the hell it is with my heroes and Tony Montana. It’s a bit… disturbing…
There I go again...opening your links :(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Whaaaat?
There was no music involved! Or anyone’s nipples, for that matter!
There are tattoos and tattoos...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Not seeing a problem
But here ya go… less tattoos (pre-sleeve). And he’s yet again wearing a Tony Montana shirt….
And that's why you're the other half of my brain.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Because I don't have an issue with tatts?
Or because my idols have this weird thing with Tony Montana?
(Oooh, look!… less tattoos and no shirt! OK, I think I might be getting a tad distracted here…)
Very pretty... and this is where our brains meet ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I guess he is okay...
I mean he has won a few races here and there but he’s alright. He seems like one of those all looks but no substance type of guys .I mean Boonen is totally better…
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah they should have...the time is messed up for the U.S. so it is back to 6 hours now and not 4...
I got confused. Thanks Jens
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions
where are you that you were at 4 hour diff instead of 5, but are now at 6
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
No I mean up on the top...
Jens had only a 4 hour difference between Central European time and U.S. eastern. It changed to 5 for a week or 2 because of daylight savings but now Europe is on daylight savings so it goes back to 6 hours. At least that is what cyclingfans said about the daylight savings being today
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
First your clocks went ahead so you gained an hour: one hour less time difference. Now our clocks have also moved ahead so we took that hour back: same old difference of 6h to US Eastern, 9h to US Pacific.
yes, dear
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
ah. i pay no attention to jens time zone conversions... i'm so use to do them btwn here (virginia) and europe automatically
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
btw, jens, you might want to change the us conversion time in the thread intro to 8:30am for us eastern
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
that's okay. nothing like being late to the party
not as if we’ll miss much
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
i thought you were referring to yourself as being 4 hours behind yesterday, as opposed to 6 today
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Yeah should have mentioned that...I think I would be near Greenland if 4 hours was true.
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm just glad we're back to that 6 hour diff, that 5 hour diff kept throwing me off
and i really hated these three weeks while working, cause it meant i had to work longer into the day to keep in sync with europe, especially the london stock exchange
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
10 km less!
For reasons still unknown, the commissaires decided to shorten the race course by 10 km. Official start was given in Tielt. I guess that means they did ride the whole course but only the official start was moved a little further. Result: 210 km of racing. Way, way longer than last year’s 209 …
Source: Sporza ticker
Chris's tweet
Cf: odd start, peloton leaves 7’ early. Boonen, Cancellara, Weylandt and others back in the cars, chasing. Is this normal?
early? that's odd.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
That could be the reason
They thought everybody was there, start given too early, turns out NOT everybody was there after all, extra 10 km of neutral zone to let them all come back.
but why would you start a race early?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
If a car with the likes of Cance is chasing, it's debatable that everyone was there and ready to go..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
nah, in a professional event timeschedules are meant to be kept
. I doubt they change that start at the spur of the moment just because.
well put....
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
starting late is acceptable, and often happens. starting early, never; unless there is a very good reason
i.e., bad weather coming in perhaps….
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Sure
Maybe they expected a headwind and started early because they wanted to keep to the time schedule! In any case, Chris said it started early so I guess that is not in dispute.
hmmm
the tweet came 1 min after scheduled starttime so question is if he tweeted as it was happening?
No
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions
And now two hours of waiting for video....bah!!
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Nice fragment..
Which rider won, course it was and year?
In 2 guesses i had everything right
http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/extra/games/100208_WDST_stopmotion_01
You mean the race
starting outside the french capitol, raced through the french countryside, ending close to the border with Belgium, mostly won by belgians?
Maybe it's a hegemony thing
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Mar 28, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The Netherlands seems to be growing every day...
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions
2006 paris-roubaix
Boonen?
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, Cancellara
this is the one were Hoste, someone and someone else are DQ’d…Boonen 2nd…year 2006
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Van Petegem and Gusev are those somepeople else
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by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Sporza commentators predict
WUYTS BERTEELE SCHOTTE VANDEGOOR VANNIEUWKERKE
favourite Freire Freire Freire Freire Breschel
favourite BoassonH Gilbert Farrar BoassonH Freire
favourite Breschel BoassonH Gilbert Gilbert Gilbert
wild card Bos Hammond Lodewyck Goss Goetarovitsj
Goetarovitsj.....that's a new one for sure?
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Man, you guys are sharp today....
b
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions
In further stirring of the shitpot. This is why Lefevere is an ass
and should be thrown out of the sport
Cyclingnews
Man, what a tosspot....
Sounds like the Mourinho of cycling…
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow...ASS-HOLE
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, come on....they're adults...
no stupid loud mouth manager makes anyone do anything….
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Well when you have no trade to back you up
and your on the verge of no contract, then his words mean a bit more.
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure....
maybe ‘train more’, I don’t know….
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions
When the only criteria for securing your livelyhood is results?
He mentions Kevin Van Impe, who is like a third tier guy in the squad and he’s basically threatening him with unemployment if he doesn’t produce results when he’s a guy who never gets to ride for himself anyway?
Umm, isn't that the very definition of professional sports....
Results=contracts
Tacitly, ever professional athlete knows they need to perform to be paid, some choose hard work, some cheat…
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Though it is more of a case of when you work hard
but your expected to do more and physically can’t. Van Impe has his own decent results, Dwars Door in ‘09, and he lays down for Boonen in every classic. Most of those guys would see it as job security because they don’t want to have to go back down to the pro-conti/conti level and have their wages cut in half
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure thing, I agree, completely...
Van Impe is a class act, without him Boonen doesn’t win, QuickStep looses money and fame…etc. With that said, we can’t use that as an excuse for cheating or excusing cheaters…that’s what I’m driving at.
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah it isn't an excuse...But when Lefevre says thing like that it just
a catalyst to dope. The riders have free will for sure but the root of the problem might be the guy telling them that they aren’t doing enough,etc. and Lefevre has been through a lot of doping problems in his day and should be recognized for it.
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure, I think we both agree...
that
(1) Lefevre is a top-class knobhead
(2) Professional athletes make their own choices
(3) Being a Pro athletes can be brilliant, and a raw deal at the same time
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
yup
but I’m inclined to see the human side. The people he’s saying this to is mostly very young guys heavily invested in cycling. Moral choices vs. real life isn’t as easy to make out as it is for us people on the sidelines.
Moral choices...
please, if your most difficult moral-ethical choice on life is to cheat or not…well, you’re in for a pretty sweet life
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Well when your like 22 and still living at your parent's house and on the verge of a big contract
then, yes, it probably is the most difficult one at that point
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Again,
pretty sweet life….why screw it up…
reminds me of ‘MASH’….‘teenage sucide, don’t do it…’
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok, now you have three older teammates
who you look up to saying it’s not really cheating, that’s how everyone else gets by and you are being incredibly unprofessional by not doing what is necessary to do your job properly. Is the choice getting any easier?
I agree with your sentiment but still think you are lacking in the empathy department.
Also in the remembering what it's like to be that age..
and wanting everything to happen now.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ok...how about this
I empathize with all of those 22 year olds, on the verge of contracts, who don’t get them because they decide to go it ‘clean’…
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
PS.
Man, we need video….
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
+100000
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
That is the point I am always making
but the discussion here is about the responsibilities of managers, coaches etc.
Sure, I hear ya man...
I’d just like to see everyone take responsibility for themselves for a change…
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
When your in an environment that has a big grey area for doping then it is different
When your managers and what not tell you that you need to be professional, you usually will do what your told because you don’t want to screw up the sweet gig you have. The rider is still at fault but if he is nurtured in an environment where doping isn’t seen as something that is taboo then his opinions will be very different but the people who are might be telling him to take whatever need to be help responsible
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Again, agree...
everyone must take responsibility…
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Captains vs. helpers
Why is you salary/jobsecurity depending on you winning when your job is to help someone else win? The two are opposite.
good point!
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
But...
Devolder hasn’t fone anyhing lately than winning the RvV.. Haha briljant line!
Also didn’t help..
Pacing at the peloton...
near 60 kmph and setting up the decisive move
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
C;mon.. He was in peloton 3 after some not to identify heuvel..
Boonen had nobody and had to wait till peloton 3 was back at peloton 1 to get helpers… Barredo was there first..
Exact
Sad, but true…
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it's closer to how one actually pronounce it
Compare with the footballer Hleb whos name, I’m told, should be pronounced Gleb. And also the Honchars/Gonchars.
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by TheFigurehead on Mar 28, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedrigo want a pop at L-B-L apparently...
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75 min to video!!
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Hi guys
Here’s the deal with the early start. I was talking to Farrar and some riders were rolling down the ramp to teh start area when people started yelling ALLEZ ALLEZ and suddenly things were moving out. A few straggling riders jetted off to the back, but Boonen and Cancellara were still up on stage, anda few other guys were leaning on their team cars in a narrow chute. The cars started off before Boonen rolled down, so he was picking his way through to catch up. Cancellara was a good 20" later — I was on the ramp thinking Boonen was last, but I saw Tony come flying down, pinned myself to the rail, and he was off. About a minute late. I presume they rode slowly, because that was fucking nuts.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:17 AM EDT reply actions
time
I looked at my watch and it was 11:22 when Cance left.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions
and
that would be me in the blue skullcap at the bottom of the ramp.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
What are you looking at instead of Cancellara?
I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists
yep
#don’tgetrunover
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
At P-R, fine
when I can escape Europe within 12 hours. But it’s too soon today.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I pray to God Ballan doesn't have a 20 sec lead
going past you that day. Those chasers could be in for a world of hurt…..
Mark it zero Fabian
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
p.s. nice and chilly today
and a steady wind. No cloudbreaks as far as I can see. It was sprinkling in Harelbeke on the way from Deinze. I am in Wevelgem now, in the press center. They have two set up, one for Nederlands and one for all other languages. The former is a big room with food and a huge screen. The latter is an empty college classroom with a TV on. I am in the former.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:19 AM EDT reply actions
wunderbar...
podiumcafe.nl is looking better every day
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions
op de hoek
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
"I think I hate Ted Coppel, no, I find him witty and informative'
Sorry, I’m really bored…
BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!
TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent
Boonen and Breschel starting late
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:27 AM EDT reply actions
presumably
this won’t matter at all in the end…
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Bored?
OK, I’ll post some pics
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:32 AM EDT reply actions
here's one
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Note,
it’s not all smiles. This is a representative of the Tom Boonen! club, which has had several violent clashes with the Tom Boonen club.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
A Flemish civil war...
all over a !
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Tommeke Tommeke when you explode
You are like a little bomb (didn’t know how to make that rhyme in English)
The whole race be wise
At the line you wins the prize (yes it has a spelling error in Dutch, too)
see what I mean?
the bomb thing is a coded warning to the Tom Boonen club. Those Tom Boonen! club people don’t mess around.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Splitters!
I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists
oh no...the revenge of cycling cladistics...
BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!
TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent
by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Tommeke, Tommeke if you burst
you are like a bomb
be wise for all the stage,
and win the price at the line
Also I wonder if the old man
can dance to Tommeke’s jumpstyle song.
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
400 comments: "this is no jump, man"
Author in the caption: “Fucking stop saying that is no jump! I know it isn’t, it’s just I can’t change the pic anymore. Fuck it.”
Whoops, guess I don't read comment to well...
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions
n cayalunya, Juan Jose Haedo (Saxo Bank) wins final stage and Joaquim Rodriguez (Katusha) proclaimed ultimate victor.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
My VDS strategy
unravels bit by bit…
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
fine
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions
unfortunately, i don't think so. still waiting for the stage results and final gc listings at bici
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Most likely 4th behind Taareme
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Rodriguez 1st and Tondo 2nd....if the results hold
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions
wait until ursula, or majope, or ted say so
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Ursula tells us. he's very enamoured of his new toy.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Hee. Hey, I'm like, TIED for 375th place!
Show some respect.
You’re leading the Ed’s League too, big guy. What’s your secret?
stage top 10 results
Etapa 7:
1º 177 HAEDO, Juan Jose ARG TEAM SAXO BANK 2:32:21
2º 151 FÖRSTER, Robert GER TEAM MILRAM mt.
3º 7 ROCHE, Nicolas IRL AG2R-LA MONDIALE mt.
4º 125 VIGANO, Davide ITA SKY PROFESSIONAL C.T mt.
5º 178 HAEDO, Lucas S. ARG TEAM SAXO BANK mt.
6º 36 GALDOS, Aitor ESP EUSKALTEL-EUSKADI mt.
7º 43 CARDOSO, Manuel POR FOOTON-SERVETTO mt.
8º 158 VOSS, Paul GER TEAM MILRAM mt.
9º 107 STAUFF, Andreas GER QUICK STEP mt.
10º 73 LOOSLI, David SUI LAMPRE – FARNESE VIN mt.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
catalunya final gc top 20
General:
1º 146 RODRIGUEZ, Joaquin ESP TEAM KATUSHA 25:16:03
2º 197 TONDO, Xavier ESP CERVELO TEST TEAM a 10
3º 208 TAARAMAE, Rein EST COFIDIS a 43
4º 28 SANCHEZ, Luis Leon ESP CAISSE D`EPARGNE a 45
5º 7 ROCHE, Nicolas IRL AG2R-LA MONDIALE a 01:20
6º 63 HESJEDAL, Ryder CAN GARMIN – TRANSITIONS a 01:20
7º 64 KREDER, Michel NED GARMIN – TRANSITIONS a 01:21
8º 86 KREUZIGER, Roman CZE LIQUIGAS-DOIMO a 01:22
9º 162 BRAJKOVIC, Janez SLO TEAM RADIOSHACK a 01:25
10º 53 DI GREGORIO, Rémy FRA FRANCAISE DES JEUX a 01:26
11º 31 ANTON, Igor ESP EUSKALTEL-EUSKADI a 01:27
12º 51 CASAR, Sandy FRA FRANCAISE DES JEUX a 01:29
13º 143 KARPETS, Vladimir RUS TEAM KATUSHA a 01:30
14º 18 TIRALONGO, Paolo ITA ASTANA a 01:30
15º 47 PEREZ, Aitor ESP FOOTON-SERVETTO a 01:33
16º 34 VELASCO, Ivan ESP EUSKALTEL-EUSKADI a 01:37
17º 118 WEENING, Pieter NED RABOBANK a 01:38
18º 84 KISERLOVSKI, Robert CRO LIQUIGAS-DOIMO a 01:40
19º 11 PEREIRO, Oscar ESP ASTANA a 01:59
20º 176 VOIGT, Jens GER TEAM SAXO BANK a 01:59
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
no prob, like to do my small bit
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
F*** you
I dropped 1 place to 431:th after the CI update . Now I dropped 2 more to 433:th. You couldn’t let me enjoy the high life in the 431 for a few minutes at least?
Bah...Kreder was 4th place in the stages enough to tease me
if he just sprinted a bit faster he could have doubled his score. Only 70 with Kreuz and Kreder
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice result of Kreder
He was at Rabo U23 last year. I’m starting to detect a pattern here Flecha, Bos, Kreder
Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.
Guys start winning once they leave Rabobank PT or conti team
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Can you imagine what would happen
If Rabo ever decided to stop sponsoring. All those riders leaving Rabo at the same time would wreak havoc!
Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.
Real Dutch hegemony would set it...
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
Bos beats Brown in Murcia. Kreder beats all Rabo’s in Catalunya. Not really important but not nice either.
Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.
Great prerace video on now
Historic GW. one scene of two guys punching each other, a Panasonic and a Carrera, in the final. Then a shot of two horses galloping along the road in with the peloton.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:15 AM EDT reply actions
kicks us while we're down, waiting for video,
and then rub our noses in it, cut us, and pour salt in the wound!!!
BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!
TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent
by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Gah and I freaking miss it...
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Whew awesome...
thanks for the backup
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
i think the word you're looking for is "yeehaw"
so much more apt for echelons…
but, i’m in agreement with you on the “yeah” part
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
no surprise
No way was he going hard today.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree...
he knows he has good form so why should he wear himself out too much
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
'Ah I think it's started....'
nice one
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TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent
by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Martin & Brian are commentating today?
I love it when they show the riders signing on. Hope they show Chris at the bottom of the ramp!
just prerace stuff?
No live pix here. There’s some grumbling about changing the channel but that doesn’t make sense to me. GW people have things pretty buttoned down.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
No balls, No Glory
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
Live now.
Is there good coffee there, Chris? What kind of food in the NL press room? Details, boy, we want details!
too awful for words
But the video isn’t skipping.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Same 4-man break
gaps??
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:27 AM EDT reply actions
bedank
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Arvesen down?
More Rabo troubles
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:28 AM EDT reply actions
The hero from Kuurne!
Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.
Rabo was down...FLens
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
rail track?
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe...it looked like a rough turn
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Mandrazo, Pronk, Steurs
gap around 2 min
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
yeah, saw that...
BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!
TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent
by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Think they're all together now....
BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!
TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent
OK
gruppo compatto. I am going to look around outside. Probably not much action for a little bit.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 28, 2010 8:30 AM EDT reply actions
'Vive la France'
What are they on about…
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Thanks...
BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!
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by bradBordeaux on Mar 28, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Caduta!!
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Nope...he is just at the rear with Boonen and was stuck behind
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 28, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
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