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Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde Stage 1 ............LIVE

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Tuesday- Thursday is Driedaagse time in Flanders. A sweet little stage-race in it's own right but perhaps most importantly a prequel to the action on Sunday. With crosswinds, small country roads and a full cast of hardmen, good racing is nearly guaranteed though. Look for a short race preview after the flip.

Live video at 14:45 CEST (08:45 AM US eastern, 23:45 AEDT)

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Star-divide

Unless you hadn't noticed, the whole world (or at least all cyclingteams) is getting fine tuned for Sunday's Ronde van Vlaanderen. This includes riding your body into shape and getting a feeling for the roads and the rhythm of racing in Flanders. For some it is about conserving and tweeking already good form. For others, who have fallen behind in their prep for some reason, it's about a last minute scramble to get to where they wanna be come Sunday. For the record, I don't think the latter has ever worked?

Whatever your approach is, De Panne is clearly the place to do it. Often you can spot the winner of the Tour of Flanders in the three day stage race going back and forth through West Vlaanderen. The race itself is set up to be a perfect, smooth warmup for Sunday.

Stage 1 on Tuesday is 198 km from Middelkerke on the coast, southeast to Oudenaarde in the heart of De Ronde-land. This is the hilliest of the stages passing several of Sunday's climbs, like Berendries and Valkenberg. 

Stage 2 on Wednesday  makes the return trip to the coast. It's 214 km from Zottegem to Koksijde, so it's slightly longer but less hilly. The hills will most likely not be the major factor in the first two days though but rather the windconditions as much of the racing is close to the Atlantic coast.

Stage 3 a & b on Thursday offers a lighter or harder menu depending on how you want to approach it. In the morning there is a 112 km flat stage near the coast and in the afternoon a 15 km timetrial for those who want to go the distance. Not everyone will go all the way though, the list of DNFs and DNS grows pretty rapidly as people gauge their efforts with one eye on Sunday.

Picking a winner here isn't all that easy. You are looking for a hardman who can get in the right moves and make up some time and  who is strong enough in the TT to hold on to that lead. This is pretty much a description that fits half the field so what else are we looking for? Probably the winner is someone on good form but not one who is too confident of his chances in De Ronde? Outsiders like Ballan, Hoste and Devolder are recent winners, all before they became major contenders in the Big Race. Ballan pulled off the unusual feat of following up his win with victory on Sunday, the only one to do so in the last 10 years. 

Looking at this year's startlist, names like Lars Bak, Enrico Gasparotto, Lieuwe Westra, Manuel Quinziato and Maxim Iglinskiy all seem to fit the above description, don't they?

 


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Now, are you coming to Flanders or not??

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't.. I hoped it was no but the cyclocross questions pops in mind... But I already said a couple of times..

No.. I’m not there..
1. I’m way too lazy
2. I don’t like people
3. Examens uhuh and stuff
4. I like to follow the race
5. I’m free to go where I have to.. Don’t have to hockey so visit my grandparents it is

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hockey?

Yoe never cease to surprise me…

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You missed that I plaed hockey?!?

Oh men.. The twins of you are distracting! Have they survived the first months tho?

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is strange

The Dutch like to skate and play hockey, not just at the same time. Maybe it’s a walking and chewing gum thing.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Mar 30, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's understandable

You have to spread your risk. If you can’t skate, you can’t hockey and vice versa.

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too few ice-skate tracks to be commercial attrected me thinks..

It’s like La Crosse and Rugby.. The Netherlands is not build for it..
Tennis, Hockey and footbal are the accommodations we care about

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tennis????

Name the last Dutch player in the top 100

errrr....am i supposed to sign this??

by Flatbagger on Mar 30, 2010 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think the belgians are beating them there too ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tiemo Bakker

Michaella Kraicheck Or however you spell that..
Nontheless we have a lot of tennisfields

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Top 3 participation sport

Football, tennis, hockey are The Big Three; not quite sure but I think in that order.

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope it is

1 Football 1.100.000
2 Tennis 700.000
3 Golf 291.000
4 Gymnastic(?) 280.000
5 Hockey 197000
And I’m proud to say! We have just 123 imported Candiens how play Curling

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Found t

28.500 cyclists.. Beat that! (I’m not daring the Belgium here.. Only the rest of the world)

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where did you find that?

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Numbers from 2007, I think? Should be more or less the same three years later, of course. For interested onlookers, those are member counts of national federations. Most sport in Holland is organised in club life but cycling is an exception I think. There are a LOT more than 28.500 cyclists (cycling for sport/exercise/leisure).

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have thought there'd be a lot of good Dutch second rows

Beanpole tall is a good physical shape for that position in rugby

by thebongolian on Mar 30, 2010 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

their progeny, the Boers

have given rise to some giants of the game; quite literally

by Drongo on Mar 30, 2010 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Springboks...shudder

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

this walk and chew gum business is bollocks

It comes from Lyndon Johnson talking about Gerald Ford, and saying he couldn’t walk and fart at the same time.

Someone censored it. (Fart? Oh no! We can’t have that!) I don’t know why; it takes on an entirely new meaning.

by Drongo on Mar 30, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Twins are doing great

Alive and kicking and sleeping well during the night.

They even keep me company when I watch cycling on the laptop. They’re not really into it though. My older sons are. I was watching the finale of GW with my 2 year old and he asked me where the vensterbank was. So I had to explain that Freire just dropped out. Funny!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

:-( Oh well. Not even a free beer will entice you?

You don’t like people? I’m sure that’s not true….and surely you’d like me? ;)

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

That;s half true ;) haha

And I certainly love you! But hey.. The brain is stronger

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

You love me? Hahaha

There will be a proposal of marriage next!

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it would be a LAA relationship

Living apart, apart.

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh dear, i have something in common with frinking?

2. i don’t like people

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you do like internet forum people?

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

mos' def....

now, where is that steph person hiding?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I had such high hopes for you...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

And you'll drive the wedding car?

A.k.a. PdC limo.

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be fashionably late then I guess...

15 days at 400km a day would have me in the middle of Pakistan

errrr....am i supposed to sign this??

by Flatbagger on Mar 30, 2010 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh it's 140000km..

And then you go over the Nepal.. Not a big deal is it?

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

And....

it took me 30 days to get to Perth last time i rode it and that’s the next city in bloody Aussie land heading West

errrr....am i supposed to sign this??

by Flatbagger on Mar 30, 2010 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Often you can spot the winner of the Tour of Flanders in the three day stage race going back and forth through West Vlaanderen.

So that would be no Cancellara, Boonen, Rabo, Sky for de Ronde

Left: Ballan, Spilak, Maaskant, Pozzato, Gasparotto, Devolder and Gilbert

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 4:10 AM EDT reply actions  

What about Kroon?

About time he shows himself in front of a race. Any race.

3 daagse is the red carpet to the Ronde. A huge percentage of RvV winners did the 3DdP first. That tradition might be broken this year…

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

second AGR..

Or did you mean this year.. Maaskant is also sanbagging.. Or that is what I hope

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

This year of course!

AGR last year is so…. 2009!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Often is often

and not the same as always

by Jens on Mar 30, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, the semantics lessons one can pick up at this place!

Are u a linguist, Jens? You certainly seem to have the cunning down.

by Holdenmate on Mar 30, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You share that characteristic... linguistically speaking..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ballan!

I am going down to Oude for the finish today, thinking if the weather isn’t terrible that I will camp on the Korte Keer for some pictures. Today should decide the overall, unless it doesn’t of course.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 4:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Almost always decided in the TT, isn't it?

(with a pre-selection of everyone who decided to hang on and didn’t have too much bad luck)

Westra.

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Westra is on my VDS team

Driedaagse was a big reason for that, and I have probably jinxed him.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Mar 30, 2010 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Woow..

That’s… really smart.. and so

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

And then the Tour de Picardie is a bonus!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cheer up

rbjhan is in the gruppetto

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Mar 30, 2010 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bahahaha

She popped big time. Didn’t eat enough. Rookie error.

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a great success in the circumstances thanks!

It wasn’t perfect, especially as I managed to choke on a biscuit crumb about an hour before and set myself off coughing again (d’oh!), but I think I was aware of the problem far more than the audience were as they all seemed to think it was excellent! Glad it’s over…I wish I could have enjoyed it more but it was fairly stressful, not knowing whether I was going to hold out or not!

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent! Glad it went well.

I think I have your dreaded bug now – I don’t have a cough, but my chest feels very tight and I’m finding it hard to breathe. I just hope it clears up by Thursday…I really do not want to be stuck in a plane for 21 hours feeling like crap!

by celerity on Mar 30, 2010 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doctor now! Too much fun to miss if you don't.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no!

Echinacea, vitamin C, sleep and prayer! I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you. Where are you staying in Belgium? Arriving Friday?

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I definitely slept lots today which made me feel better

And then went to the pharmacy to buy drugs.

I do arrive on Friday. Am staying in Gent Friday – Monday then in Brussels on Tues/Wed, and leaving on Thurs.

by celerity on Mar 30, 2010 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Super. I'm in Oudenaarde.

I’ll email you my number. Are you going to the Scheldeprijs?

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 6:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, am planning to at this stage.

And if you fancy a day of sightseeing in Brugges, I will probably be doing that on Monday or Tuesday.

by celerity on Mar 30, 2010 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly Bruges...I've been there before though so not sure, but it's lovely!

I plan to spend either Monday or Tuesday ‘doing’ Gent but I’m not sure about the other day. Would be lovely to meet up and explore at some point!

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck echinacea

and all related homeopathetic quack medicine.

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

chili and mac & cheese....

works wonders…..

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

chili clears the sinuses so that you can actually taste the mac & cheese...

and it really sucks to try to eat a salad when one has a cold… you can’t taste anything…

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Life isn't so bad

I just sipped a Duvel,
And Driedaagse De Panne
Starts tonight.

Both mouthwatering prospects.

by Runitout on Mar 30, 2010 5:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Reading through the Ted interview

Gavia made the best comment of 2010..

growing up…
I wonder what that’s like.

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Devolder

Definitely the guy to watch today. Media is full of speculation about whether he’s just out of form. If he misses the split today but gets a nice GC ranking in the end because he’s a good time trialist, I will be unimpressed.

It’d be nice to see Farrar hang with the top group today. Not sure what his ambitions are, but I would think he has a realistic chance at one of the flat stages and a high GC if he does well today. ITT will be a bit long for him.

Am wondering what incentives are going to be. If you’re out to win Flanders, you’re already cautious about your work here. Then add in some snowflakes (tomorrow) and you might see a lot of abandons or guys just doing tempo. That would leave things to a smaller group of hopefuls. Vanmarcke FTW? Boy, that would sell papers.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 5:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Devolder has say

Cancellara hurt him when he said he only won 2 times de Ronde because he was on Boonen’s team..
But saw Flandrien on the Belgian tv.. Boonen said the same there….

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cance implied Devolder 'stole' the wins

That’s a different matter imo. He’s right to be upset about that. He vowed to tow Boonen back to Cance’s wheel with 60km/h now instead of 55 out of spite.

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...

Ok.. It’s slightly different from what Boonen said

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Devolder....

he must still be trying to figure out what he ‘really’ did wrong…

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

All he has to do

is ask Lefevere.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

The better question would be....

why all of sudden did Lefrevre loose the plot?

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK, to the trains

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 5:44 AM EDT reply actions  

are they still around....

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

they're not 'that' underground...

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I respectfully agree, but that is neither here nor there.

Nanine calls them “super-underground” but in actuality I think what she is saying is that they are/were mysterious not wanting to give interviews and stuff. It is not uncommon at all to meet people (music affecionados) here in Norway who dig GYBE. I suspect that you are a long-time fan, brad, am I correct?

by Holdenmate on Mar 30, 2010 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, not really, at all....when they first came on the scene...

they were everywhere in London…you couldn’t avoid them!

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

Loved her since we were kids and always (well, mostly) love her performances. Music was moody & trance-inducing, sometimes forceful, very fitting to the atmosphere.

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your description of their music is right on the money. Loooong songs.

A short snippet here for the aural pleasure of those who have no idea what we are talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNamOgrPgwU

by Holdenmate on Mar 30, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always meant to check out GY!BE

I like a lot of other “post-rock”, but never really got around to these guys except for the odd song I randomly downloaded.

by celerity on Mar 30, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

official start given at 12.07

The contest is now officially launched gevlagd. All 169 riders started. The weather conditions were however bar in Middelkerke: wind, rain, cold. That kept many cycling fans are not against their idols to be encouraging.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 6:19 AM EDT reply actions  

ticker

http://live.sporza.be/cm/lmc/wielrennen/voorjaar/Comp_Driedaagse

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 6:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like Lefevre has got to Cornu...

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cornu

Of Skil Shimano

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

didn't he ride for Quickstep, or tried to, last year...

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lef apparently is very disappointed

when the track riders he hires surprise everyone by……….focusing on the track. Who could see that coming?

by Jens on Mar 30, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is, though

Likes the track, wants to focus mainly on the track.

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bronze in the Individual Pursuit WC...

in 2009 right???

"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado

by TRDean on Mar 30, 2010 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

2010 Skil – Shimano
2009 Quick Step
2008 Silence – Lotto
2007 Predictor – Lotto
2006 Bodysol – Win for Life – Jong Vlaanderen
2005 Bodysol – Win for Life – Jong Vlaanderen
2004 Elite-2
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider.asp?riderid=1995

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

break

Dominique Cornu (Bel)
Lieuwe Westra (Ned)
Adam Hansen (Aus)
Tristan Valentin (Fra)

have 25" over the peloton.

Mark

by mpw5 on Mar 30, 2010 7:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Time for the traditional lunch report

Vegetable lasagne, salad, strawberries, apple juice :-)

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 7:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Not bad.

I’m eating yogurt because I’m too lazy to put bread in the toaster.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Call out for pizza.

Unless that counts as buying more. If so, you could always go out and hunt and/or gather. Lots of edible things out there.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I should be able scrape together meals for the next day and a half

they might just be a bit random – I want to get rid of everything perishable I have left.

by celerity on Mar 30, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do that with my cupboards from time to time.

I call it ‘pantry roulette.’

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

sinker meals

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have a relative to two who calls me up and says "what can i make from this?"

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have

potatoes, green beans, bacon, half an onion, half a sweet potato, some lemons, marscapone, several other kinds of cheese…

Hmm, I actually have a reasonable amount of food left after all. I just can’t be bothered cooking.

by celerity on Mar 30, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forget the dairy products with the cold and use all those lemons.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

could make a nice quick soup with all that...

well, i don’t know about the marscapone… but the rest would work well. you seem to be missing broth or canned tomatoes tho…

if you lived by me, i would feed you. wait. nope. not yet. not projected to be back in the kitchen until may sometime. oh well. apologies.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

She'll drop by you on her way back to Oz..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

now, if you were just heading out to work instead of done for the day and had a slow cooker...

throw in the stock, tomatoes, cut potatoes, sweet potatoes, seasonings, onions, and let cook. when come home, turn slow cooker to high (if have that option), and throw in the beans. crisp up the bacon. serve with the bacon and cheese garnish.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nuke the potato for 10 minutes, throw it in the oven for another 10 to finish it off

top with cheese and bacon. Serve green beans on the side. Not much actual cooking involved.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, come on. that's cheating.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're talking to the person who was too lazy to make toast.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

good point

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was thinking some kind of warm potato salad

Anyway, I has chicken soup tonight, I might actually feel like cooking something tomorrow.

by celerity on Mar 30, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

green beans, onion, bacon, lemon juice... that's good too

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

True, but it's more of a side dish.

Although if you cut up the potatoes and sweet potato, toss with olive oil and salt and roast them up, the whole plate might be hearty enough for a meal.

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by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I made a lovely baby spinach, green bean and bacon salad the other day

And that was exactly what I was planning to do with the potatoes, but it’s been so hot here I didn’t want to turn the oven on!

by celerity on Mar 30, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

slow cookers.... best friend during the summer months

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed!

Open the bag of bread. Put slices in the toaster. Press the lever down. Find a knife. Find a plate. Decide on peanut butter, Nutella, or cherry preserves. Check to make sure toaster isn’t burning toast. If really persnickety, pop up toast halfway through and turn so it browns evenly. Catch it as it comes up so it’s at maximum heat to make peanut butter or Nutella melty. Spread toast. Pour more coffee.

Exhausting, just thinking about it.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's like you're psychic!

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

just had a cheddar cheese and serano ham sandwich with french style country bread...

more goodies in the cold bag next to me. microwave on the cart

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by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

13:10
A group of 15 riders has also tried to drive to the four leaders, but the rest of the platoon did not happen. There were however big names like Roelandts, Weylandt, Farrar, Lorenzetto, Vandenbergh, Pavlovich Ignatyev and Eeckhout at.

13:07 Still 140 km
Julien Fouchard and Sergio De Lis are heavy downfall came. The two riders were taken to the hospital in Ronse.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

13:26

It remains unsettled in the squad and that is detrimental to the start of the four. Cornu and co have just over a half minutes. In the pack, the Russian champion Sergei Ivanov for unclear reasons unloading.

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by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:29 AM EDT reply actions  

he'd better unload

he cost me a lot of points this year

by Drongo on Mar 30, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not one to judge, mind you.

Some like to watch stealthily , some like perfecting the mechanics of the procedure, others focus on the emotional consequences, while a minority shun the whole practice alltogether.

by Holdenmate on Mar 30, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not that evil. Lola is an evil, evil song, written by a record company executive in order to kill music.

…and to taint the name of a great group and excellent songwriter.
 But maybe I could have resorted to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kQNFyEI2rs
 
“strangers passing in the street
by chance two separate glances meet
and i am you and what i see is me.”

My original comment was intended to convey a similar sense of confuzzleness.

by Holdenmate on Mar 30, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT holden, so you don't have to answer,

but what are you studying at uni? ‘Confuzzleness’ never shows up min the way you write.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good sense and talent I'd say...

I’ve never really felt reading was studying.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, thank you, you are too kind.

There are the issues of job prospects, the tendency for procrastination and a general malaise though. ;)

by Holdenmate on Mar 30, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Travel...

Norwegians are nearly as good at travelling as Australians. And perhaps you follow in Huvstedt’s footsteps? A couple of my students are writing satirical sketches now… that’s within your powers I suspect…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can we have live threads by theme?

Books, obscure music bands, actual cycling etc.

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

That reminds me

One thread for talkative Norwegians and grumpy Swedes would be a bare necessity too!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many would we need just for the Aussies?

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scuse us... Lou is all but gone, Omne is Belgium bound, Drongo is selective

and frinky has given us up, so we need very little unless it’s literature night ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know Peter Fitzsimons has noted the dangers of men talking

about themselves in the third person?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well drongo is a bird in Australia really..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, an apt moniker I would say.

“it sometimes makes astonishingly loud, complex and entertaining calls that may sound like a “sneeze”." Kinda sums you up as a virtual person, doesn’t it?

by Holdenmate on Mar 30, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drongo's gone home,

but in Oz we also use it sometimes affectionately, sometimes not when someone does something silly.. I agree with you about the aptness of the name here though.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not dead yet!

I’m getting better! I don’t want to go on the cart – I feel fine!

Ahem.

by Lou... on Mar 31, 2010 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good... I'm meant to be sympathetic here,

but I’m too self-absorbed. The ‘ahem’ however has not gone unnoticed. Thank goodness drongo, runitout and drongo have been around. Three for one Lou! (Not that I don’t think they’re great company).

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 1, 2010 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Swedes are not grumpy anymore.

They are on a high after the olympics. Sweden garnered 11 medals, that is only 12 medals less than Norway got. Great success!

by Holdenmate on Mar 30, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

only?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

And like 5-6 more medals than expected

We all know that Norway is the Shreks of winter sport, the country that freak us out.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Mar 30, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

13:35 Realignment
The vluchters are out for trouble. The platoon is, after 71 kilometer rates, again grouped.

13:33 Ideal preparation
Chances are that the winner of the Tour of Flanders in the peloton rides, because the past 15 years rode the winner of Round Three Days still in preparation.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

i love the translator! it adds extra suspense ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

13:51 Another 110 km
The lead goes up to 1 minutes. In the pack is unloaded again Ivanov. Also Leigh Howard, who at the World Cup track cycling have won gold and silver, is also difficult.

13:44 10 leaders
Ten riders have escaped from the peloton. They have a half minutes ahead. The names: Dall’Antonia, Hoste, Saramotins, Grivko, Chainel, Bernucci, Goesinnen, Romain Feillu, Bert Scheirlinckx, De Gendt.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:52 AM EDT reply actions  

is \o/ waving his arms yet?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Adding, not surprised Howard is difficult. He is, after all, Australian.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

'Scrappy' majope, we prefer scrappy..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Google Translate always gets it wrong.

Let me go find the “Contribute a better translation” button…

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Australia thanks you.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ooo De Gendt!

He was in almost every single break at the Tour of Britain last year….crazy crazy boy…he won the mountains and intermediate sprints jerseys as a result though!

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scrappy ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought about it for the same reason.

(Had a lot of good thoughts. Shame I didn’t actually do anything with any of them.)

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Mar 30, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

we've all been there

congrats to southampton by the way. ricky lambert, what a guy

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Mar 30, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

So why did Oscar and Iglinsky 'op sit' in G-W?

I watched again last night and no way did they get dropped.

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 30, 2010 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

down here, egoat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg0-9YSCvXE

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

took wrong wheel

next thing he knew there was a gap and didn’t have enough to get back on? (i’m talking freire)

" sprints like a climber, and climbs like a sprinter" - internet forum person

by yeehoo on Mar 30, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

it did look odd

" sprints like a climber, and climbs like a sprinter" - internet forum person

by yeehoo on Mar 30, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Freire had just taken a pull

and had done a lot of work earlier, too, both alone to bridge and in the group. So he was a little gassed, as evidenced by him climbing the Kemmelberg in last wheel, but he also felt it wasn’t his turn for once. He didn’t want to get suckered into closing the gap which means he got suckered into letting the group go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ptqwke7AQ0 Freire talks from 1:52 (also w/ Brown talking Dutch..)

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep, makes perfect sense

and jives with the video

" sprints like a climber, and climbs like a sprinter" - internet forum person

by yeehoo on Mar 30, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which contained Cooke, Bretschel, Paolini, Farrar…

by Triki on Mar 30, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe. Why sit up though?

It didn’t look like they were going that hard.

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 30, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure, I just reckon he was sure enough that chase group was coming back that he could save a little energy by sitting up, and wait for the sprint. No, it’s not a conclusive explanantion.

by Triki on Mar 30, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just seemed odd.

He and M.I. were working up until then.

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 30, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Iglinsky kept riding between the two

Which made little sense. Were there strong crosswinds or something?

by Triki on Mar 30, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think there was more to it than just riding.

I’ll be interested to see if M.I. or O.F. get help at the RVV from HTC or BMC.

by ELVISGOAT on Mar 30, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ooooo! Under the table dealings! Did you see the “Ricco and Pozzovivo” fanshot? Someone elsewhere suspected that Jose Serpa had taken money not to work with them, but it turned out there was apossible tactical reason. I really don’t know about this.

by Triki on Mar 30, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eisel told later that he saw when Kuschynski, Iglinsky & Freire were dropping off,

and put the group into the gutter right there. You can see it: they’re all stringed out on the left side of the road. Iglinsky just lost the last wheel and wasn’t able to come back alone. The play was between Kuschynski & Freire, Iglinsky got caught out but Eisel was the strongest. Mostly riding, no deals.

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dateline Oudenaarde

OK, I made it. Weather is the usual, gusting winds but nothing too daunting.

People here are so frickin nice. I don’t have a press card, because it got sent to Seattle and didn’t arrive before I left. Problem? Not only is that a big no, but I have actually been given a photo vest. I may skip the Korte Keer, since I have a hallowed position on the line now. I can’t think of too many places I’ve been where things would have worked out so well.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

you sub in; I'll sub out

the A-team has arrived, it seems.

Enjoy!

by Drongo on Mar 30, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

yay chris !!!

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

For once

I don’t want to know.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Press room

SWANK! We’re inside the old town hall, am guessing maybe 14th century? Tastefully updated for modern usage, with things like heat and lights. Very cozy in here.

No pictures so I am going to take care of a few matters, like why my photo card won’t initialize.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

oh and

“Pass the Dutchy” is playing. Color me mystified. Lots of hip hop in Oudenaarde today. All of it pretty bad.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very cool! Keep them updates coming.

Hey—how do the locals feel about Lefevere’s latest rantings?

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by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

20-foot ceilings

problem solved

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Secondhand smoke in restaurants and pubs is a major drawback with the Continent.

One I had forgotten all about until my trip to Vienna. Smoking inside a restaurant is rude. Comments? Reactions?

by Holdenmate on Mar 30, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cigarette smoke really bothers me when I'm trying to eat.

Well, it bothers me anyway, but makes enjoying food impossible. So yeah, agree.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

definitely. also, what's with the wait staff with the perfume/cologne that overpowers also?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

200 years out ;-)

“The finest jewel of Oudenaarde is the late-Gothic town hall which was built between 1525 and 1536 by the Brussels architect Hendrik Van Pede. It was built after the destruction of the Roman aldermen’s house which was connected with the current cloth hall, made of Tournai limestone.”

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

A little gaudy for my taste.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

true dat

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eye-wateringly so...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK

I am in the lower left corner, first window. Waving now. Can you see me?

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

bring it on!!!!

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rocks from the Tournai area date from the Carboniferous Period and have been used to define the Tournaisian Age, a subdivision of the Carboniferous lasting from 359 to 345 million years ago. Tournai stone is a dark limestone which takes a polish and was used particularly in the Romanesque period for sculpted items such as baptismal fonts. It is also hard enough to have been used locally for pavements and kerb-stones. It is sometimes called Tournai marble, though this is geologically inaccurate.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

hee hee hee

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Be grateful lou's not here..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really know... she's been not okay (poor English I know),

and I MISS her… I just hope she comes back soon :(

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1000

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still around! Sheesh!

And I check in almost every day! I just haven’t been quite such a part of the furniture lately. And largely absent from the live threads (‘as they happen’, anyway). As Seahorse mentioned, I’ve been having an Interesting Time ;-). Nothing I can’t cope with, though. (And rest assured, my arse shall be FIRMLY planted on my usual stool here for de Ronde and P-R!)

by Lou... on Mar 31, 2010 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm holding my breath! Don't let me suffocate..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 1, 2010 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um... well there's a few days 'til de Ronde, so...

… you might actually want to stop holding your breath, y’know? Don’t be damaging the brain, OK?

Deary me, I had the leave for the Monday after P-R booked last year. (I tried to book in next Monday, too – and was knocked back on account of the fact that it’s a public holiday anyway, LOL). There is no question about my watching those races – and hanging out here is an integral part of my race viewing experience. Heh, and I suspect that I will need you lot to keep me awake during P-R, and perhaps point out anything vitally important that I might fail to notice… (‘cause I’m gonna be up at 5am that day to watch a soccer match, and daytime naps are something I’ve yet to master…)

by Lou... on Apr 1, 2010 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent. Well you may have to keep me up to date on de Ronde...

for no fathomable reason i haven’t managed to get a live thread all week :(

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 1, 2010 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, majope

It’s good to see that someone is taking up the slack here, and ensuring that Albertina gets her required dose of geology.

‘tis a wonder that things made from such a soft stone survive so well, don’t you think Albertina? ;-)

by Lou... on Mar 31, 2010 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

lovin it!!!

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

is it really that old

Most of the ones were flattened in WW1 or WW2 and rebuilt post-war to look old. The one in Arras (just over the brder in France) has a concrete belfry and a lift to the top

by thebongolian on Mar 30, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

No concrete here--just Tournai limestone.

And limestone, as we all know,

is a sedimentary rock composed largely of the mineral calcite (calcium carbonate: CaCO3). Like most other sedimentary rocks, limestones are composed of grains, however, around 80-90% of limestone grains are skeletal fragments of marine organisms such as coral or foraminifera. Other carbonate grains comprising limestones are ooids, peloids, intraclasts, and extraclasts. Some limestones do not consist of grains at all and are formed completely by the chemical precipitation of calcite or aragonite. i.e. travertine.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

any excuse

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Mar 30, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

14:05 First Transit
The riders are a first past the finish in Oudenaarde driven. The escape of the day seems born for the start of the ten is already two minutes.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

confirmed

I know because I pointed my camera at the break, with little results. Anyway, things seemed tranquillo in the pack. Garmin were on the front, which is nice to see, except for the part about missing the break.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 30, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

This break could contain the winner of the whole race

Very likely in fact since none of the names I picked is in there.

by Jens on Mar 30, 2010 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Dall’Antonia, Hoste, Saramotins, Grivko, Chainel, Bernucci, Goesinnen, Romain Feillu, Bert Scheirlinckx, De Gendt

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

14:21 Berendries
The pack broke into pieces on the Berendries.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

14:27
Katyusha and Garmin have no man into the forefront. She driving the peloton.

14:23 Still 93 km
The acceleration of the pack at the Berendries is difficult for leaders. They see their lead almost halved to just over one minutes.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Confirmed

From CN:

Heinrich Haussler (Cervelo Test Team) has announced he will not ride Sunday’s Tour of Flanders or Paris-Roubaix. More info soon.

by PopUp Rolen on Mar 30, 2010 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Not unexpected, but still sucks bigtime.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh. It doesn’t help to have it confirmed.

by Triki on Mar 30, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Grrr

G(impy) H H

And thus my vds team.

by Ed K on Mar 30, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It could be worse

I have Hoogerland and he has just been denied a chance to win the TdF!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aso

In Dutch is short for a-social person.

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I just bought 5 kg of nails to throw on the Tour course.

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could have seen

Vacansoleil instead of BMC but BMC has the past two world champs and there’s no guarantee that Evans will do what Sastre did last year. Skil totally doesn’t deserve a sniff at the starting line.

by ursula on Mar 30, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deserve schmerve

“We” paid millions & got the Tour start. “We” thought it was understood that the deal would also include at least one extra Dutch team.

Never. Again.

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Suckers

Here’s a tip: make a better team next time.

by ursula on Mar 30, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alright ursula!

Taking on the man/hegemony.

by Jens on Mar 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silly me.

I thought that was his VDS advice to you.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn Frenchies!

Not to be trusted! I’ll use all my influence to ban all French teams from the Tour de Rijk!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll send you a list of people to throw them in front of.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

14:32
The peloton on the vluchters hunts, is about 60 riders big number.

Dry 14:31
The riders have provisionally fortunate to ride on dry roads. Only at the start in Middelkerke they were treated to a shower.

14:30
From the background trying different groups reconnecting with a depleted squad. The advantage of the ten leaders running again until almost two minutes.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

14:38 Still 76 km
The riders are preparing for the ascent of Calvary, which is raised about five kilometers.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Kruisberg.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must have taken a wrong turn in Albuquerque.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's sunny in Indy, too. But might be a tad cooler.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weird.

The popup ad wasn’t porn today.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

How disappointing..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Mar 30, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poker then?

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually Yahoo Job Search.

Maybe it was a hint.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

porn or poker

always

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Mar 30, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

hello kids

i know i know
very late today
what can i tell you
allergies

by rbjhan on Mar 30, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Cafe!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah baby!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, my condolences.

Coming out in sympathy with Contador?

by Albertina on Mar 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry!

Glad you don’t live here.

by ursula on Mar 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure.

The #1 excuse for asthma med TUEs in the peloton.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's that time of year...

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Mar 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I assumed row boat

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Mar 30, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

afternoon all

who’s in the break?

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Mar 30, 2010 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

is that the earlier crash they're showing?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

68km, gap 1.39

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

63km, 1.03

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:06 AM EDT reply actions  

boy, slow wheel change

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

wow, liqui rider going zoom back to the peloton

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

getting in a practice time trial before thursday i guess

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Cycling Lawyer.

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or both.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

for a while now

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Klier not starting de Ronde either. I can't believe how much of that I understood.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Poor Cervelo

If not for their Spanish stage racer, Todo, they’d be screwed.

by ursula on Mar 30, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

tondo...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shun this man.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't it be

“If not for todo el Spanish stage racers”
in proper Spanglish?

by Triki on Mar 30, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

bummer

they’ll really miss him. i’d really like him to win a big race one day…

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Mar 30, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

pel-o-ton.... esch-e-lons

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops, ech-e-lons

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by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

tho, echelons makes more sense than peloton....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

so, the riders are having a ball? or are shaped like a ball?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

OED sez:
[< French peloton little ball, especially of thread (1417 in Middle French), small body of soldiers (1616), group of competitors in cycling (1884; 1855 in a sporting event in general) < pelote (see PELLET n.1) + -on (see -OON suffix). With sense 1a compare earlier PLATOON n. and also Spanish pelotĂłn (1737 or earlier in this sense).

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wiktionary on the etymology of peloton:

French:
from pelote +on

peloton m. (plural pelotons)

   1. small ball (of thread etc.)
   2. (military) platoon
   3. pack, bunch (of cyclists etc.)

by GreylockGrinder on Mar 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like they took it directly from the OED entry I posted at the same time.

I maybe don't always realize just how big some races are--Edvald Boasson Hagen, still fucking with the journalists

by majope on Mar 30, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

not sure about that

for French we surely need Le Grand Robert

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Mar 30, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bah

I only have Micro Robert en poche and Grand Dictionnaire Hachette (illustrĂ©… sorry).

by tedvdw on Mar 30, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

live pictures?

hows the weather? is it windy and wet? come on guys a be a little descriptive.

by singhstax on Mar 30, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

grey and dry at the moment

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still in the vreakaway?

Dall’Antonia, Hoste, Saramotins, Grivko, Chainel, Bernucci, Goesinnen, Romain Feillu, Bert Scheirlinckx, De Gendt.

by Frinking on Mar 30, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

fighting for kom pts... good

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

the was kushinsky (sp?) sewed up Freire in GW was brilliant

pure tactical class….

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oss

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 30, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

53km, 1.19

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Hoste ill?

He should be on top of his game at this time of the year, surprised he’s left behind.

by singhstax on Mar 30, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

holding back?

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Mar 30, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

When Hoste waves his arms

Does he start a storm in another part of the world? We can call this the Hoste Chaos theory.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Mar 30, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

49km, 1.16

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

don't you want to stay on albertina's good side?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

good boy

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Mar 30, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's absolutely fascinating how the computer hooked up to the wide screen tv is about 10 secs faster than this laptop...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Eww....this race gonna blow to pieces...

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

'lo bruce

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

go grivko

my VDS needs you

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by Ben Shave on Mar 30, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

tis' a wee peloton....

BAH!!!!....Cavendish?! Double BAH!!! Sky!!

TLP 7.0 Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

by bradBordeaux on Mar 30, 2010 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

42km, 29 secs

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Mar 30, 2010 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

For my sanity...

is van Hummel anywhere to be seen?

"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado

by TRDean on Mar 30, 2010 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Last!

Lanterne Rouge!

Gerrie Kneteman: If a football player falls he shouts for his mother, if a cyclist falls he yells for his bike.

by Lopex on Mar 31, 2010 4:51 AM EDT reply actions  

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