CobblesWatch 2010: Pre-Flanders Power Poll!
Recall, we began with a preseason ranking for baseline purposes, but things are finally heating up, so it's time to check back in. Since last month the cobbles teams have scattered and reassembled a number of times, with varying levels of commitment, up until about a week ago. Dwars door Vlaanderen is a kind of opening bell, and while everyone will make this coming weekend and the next the only true goals, the fact is that guys are in shape and out to win. So let's see how things are shaping up. () is former ranking.
1. (7) Saxo Bank ↑
Then: "Saxo are moving toward a shared captaincy with him and Matti Breschel (6th last year, can sprint). The Swiss Bear is the ultimate Paris-Roubaix machine, but after that... meh."
Now: They would have won every race of the last week had Breschel not blown a tire on the run-in to Wevelgem. Simply put, Breschel has been incredible, and Cancellara is back to his old self, after some bad luck the last couple years. They always got high marks for depth, and the Saxo boys dished out plenty of pain over the weekend, so with the top pair in ace mode, well, the results don't lie.
2. (1) Quick Step ↓
Then: "It's no secret that the looming presences of Stijn Devolder and Sylvain Chavanel -- guys everyone knows can win -- are the difference between strength and checkmate."
Now: The big story around here concerns the fraying nerves of one Patrick Lefevre, who is throwing something of a George Steinbrenner, calling out riders to whom he pays a lot of money for not holding up their end. Most significant of all is the invective hurled at Stijn Devolder, whose lack of results is getting ugly. Het Laatste Nieuws posted a chart today showing how Devolder's two Ronde wins were subtly foreshadowed in the week prior, as his results got better and better. This year, nothing of the sort. With time and options running out, Lefevre seems to be going for the negative reinforcement, kind of a hail mary at this point.
On the plus side, Tom Boonen is looking rather champion-esque, not sauntering away at will a la 2005 but forcing the action and never getting dropped, save for Saturday's little hiccup when he allowed Cancellara a couple meters in the last km and never saw him again. Bad move, but it's not for lack of fitness. He still looks like a solid bet for Flanders, for reasons I have previously discussed (god's gift to power climbs; sprinting ability; tailwind after the Muur prevents Cancellara from stomping him on run-in), and maybe Devolder's demotion will work in his favor, simplifying things a bit, and leaving Tommeke to make his own race.
More, on the flippo...
3. (8) Katusha ↑
Then: "Filippo Pozzato was the second-strongest rider in Europe last April. Ignore the merciless taunts emanating from the Boonen camp: they couldn't shake Pozzato any time after MSR...."
Now: Pippo remains a beautiful rider to watch. His chasing at the E3 was impressive, even if you have to ask why he got left behind in the first place. Eventually he will read the race right and win. I am also becoming a big Serguei Ivanov fan (better late than never), and he's been pretty active of late. Also kudos to the team for throwing everyone into de Ronde: McEwen, Kirchen, Ivanov, etc. Oh, and a good omen, Katusha drew the #3 car slot, well ahead of Quick Step, Saxo and Omega, for Sunday.
4. (9) Sky ↑
Then: "Juan Antonio... fooled ya. Probably fooled him too. But it's all about Edvald now, like it or not. Not to rehash, but Boasson Hagen has all the skills you want here. Just a matter of time."
Now: Over on Podium Cafe Premium I totally predicted the resurgence of Flecha. I'll provide a link later (subscription required). Boasson Hagen, meanwhile, has gotten a bit quiet: stomach issues, inflamed tendon, or maybe just getting a bit run down. We tend to think there's nothing young Eddy can't do, but at 22 it''s possible he hasn't held back enough for Sunday's marathon, a distance that is hard on young riders to begin with. Which puts Flecha back in the driver's seat, where he likes to be, criticizing everyone who got in his way during the last race. He's not a great ace; everything he does Cancellara does better. But winning the Omloop and making the E3 finale shows that he hasn't lost his basic abilities.
5. (2) BMC ↓
Then: "Alessandro Ballan. Won de Ronde and Driedaagse de Panne. Second at E3 Prijs. Third in Paris-Roubaix on two occasions. You can't even count him out of a sprint, his supposed achilles heel. Some question about his recovery from illness last year, and a new team always raises questions. Nitpicky stuff."
Now: Less nitpicky is his total lack of results. In his two best seasons, 2007 and '08, he had some strong showings in the weeks leading up to the monuments. Ballan has undergone a lot of changes -- the world title, illness, new team, etc. -- so it's really hard to know if his anonymous spring indicates a real struggle or just a different approach. George Hincapie, on the other hand, looks as ready as possible. I could easily see him on a podium in the next ten days.
6. (4) Omega Pharma ↓
Then: For a team that inspires so little confidence, Gilbert's rise forces us to perhaps rethink things. Assuming Leif Hoste is OK with playing second fiddle to basically the most decorated cyclist in Belgium at the moment, that puts a legitimate B-lister with a couple razor-thin misses as their backup guy, and all-round/fast finishing kid Greg Van Avermaet as icing on the cake.... For the first time in a while, their roster makes a lot of sense."
Now: Gilbert finally seems to be coming on. Watching him bridge to the front group in Gent-Wevelgem was a good indicator of how strong he is. It's always fun to talk about how Omega don't win, but Gilbert is bound to make good pretty soon. Roelandts was also plenty strong Sunday, and Van Avermaet looked briefly threatening in E3. I can't think of a race where they should have been embarassed to lose.
7. Garmin
Then: "They have a fast finisher (Tyler Farrar), a cobbles maniac (Martijn Maaskant), and a warhorse (Johan Van Summeren), but nobody who fits more than one of those descriptions... yet. Is this setup, where you can kinda pick their guy on a given day, better than BMC's all-in approach? Actually, maybe."
Now: Another team itching for some results, they may actually get a solid one in a couple days, with all eyes on David Millar as the favorite to win Driedaagse de Panne. Millar, of course, isn't really a classics guy and is only now slated to ride Paris-Roubaix. Will the Scot become a secret weapon in Hell, a race he has never ridden? His results have been stellar of late. Farrar, meanwhile, looked good in his first Gent-Wevelgem and is sure to benefit from the experience. Martijn Maaskant has been quiet, finishing well back in Wevelgem over the weekend after joining the attack for a while. It's hard not to wonder where his form is, but unless he's been sick, one would have to assume he'll suddenly turn it on again over the weekend. Overall, they haven't caught fire in 2010 yet, but maybe it's Millar's turn to light the match.
8. (6) Rabobank ↓
Then: "Where it starts to get interesting. Seb Langeveld is the heir apparent, and has looked threatening on occasion. Lars Boom and Tom Leezer are a double-barreled 24-y.o. gun pointed at the cobbled peloton, waiting to go off on a moment's notice. And if there's a bunch sprint or even a reduced field, Oscar Freire can clean up the mess."
Now: Freire once again has saved the spring with his MSR victory, and although they weren't without regrets at the E3, putting both Boom and Langeveld in the top six is a positive sign. At this stage it seems a bit unrealistic to ask more of Boom, and Langeveld has mostly hung around with the big boys, not often putting them into difficulty. Nuyens was the only guy with some top wins in Belgium, and after three crashes Saturday he's not sure if he'll start. Rabo still seem like a team on the rise, but exactly when the big wins will come from someone besides Freire is a mystery.
9. (NR) Liquigas ↑
Then: [crickets]
Now: Daniel Oss has been smoking lately, and almost every race this week has featured a glut of lime green jerseys on the front. Sure, the Belgian press is happy to talk about how those gullible Italians keep getting outsmarted for the win, but Liquigas have been aggressive and strong, which is more than you can say about a lot of team. Oh, and not a single Belgian rider or team has won a big race. So far their biggest success was Jens Keukeleire in Driedaagse West Vlaanderen. So HLN can kinda suck it.
10. HTC-Columbia ↑
Then: [crickets]
Now: I can't believe I fell for my own line about how Columbia wasn't the same team. They are. The names are just different. The wins just keep coming in...
Dropping out: Cervelo Test Team, Milram. The former has an excuse, illness and injury. The latter... they're Milram!
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Translated from Danish into English: "Bush league, psyche out shit, man! Laughable!"
CTFU Dan
there has been a V-share link for every race Sporza has covered, it has been great quality and it doesn’t get better than Sporza. So there will be video.
Proud member of Thuggetz nation.
agreed. I've had no problems watching any Belgian race this year. I think a magic elf in
the Netherlands has brought us all a gift with BVLS. You’ll get to watch it Dan. Look forward to it!
by ZoeRochelle on Mar 31, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
erm, not if you're in the office & you get one of their lovely pop up ads, it hasn't
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
It wasn't about me being able to find a stream...
… it was about me being able to actually be there to watch said stream. And I got the hall pass, so it’s aaaaaall good.
Translated from Danish into English: "Bush league, psyche out shit, man! Laughable!"
Astana is definitely on the rise.
Gasparotto and Iglinsky are riding well right now, we’ll see what happens on Sunday.
got my eye on them
I almost put them in for HTC, but I’ll give the Columbians a boost for a win. I suspect Astana will bump them out of there shortly.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 31, 2010 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions
on the flippo?
If QS are as high as second, given their dire form, it either says a lot about how flat the competition is, or a lot about how good Tom Boonen is.
I’m going for the latter.
yep
until they lose Flanders or Roubaix, they’re still the team that hasn’t lost either since 2007.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 31, 2010 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions
As much as I don't like them because of a certain Manx
Columbia should be up around number 5. Eisel should go top 10 in both Flanders and Roubaix, harkening back to his days at FdJ in ’06. If he finally gets so damn support then he will show why he should have gotten support the whole time he was at Columbia. With Seiberg and Goss there, if they keep the big boys in check then they should be able to produce something.
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
Swap Garmin out and Columbia in for the 7th slot. . . .
. . . and move Garmin down to 10th and the list would look much closer to reality.
Sorry guys, but they’ve not really done much so far.
Referencing Millar in PR as an advantage Chris?
Are you serious?
I think the Bergs and the Beers are affecting you head.
Lefevre pulling a George Steinbrenner.
I’m pissed for Devo-man. Lefevre’s basically saying that he doesn’t like Stijn because he seems to have chosen a plan to peak for one race and he doesn’t like riders like that. So thanks for the past two wins at Flanders Devolder, oh no wait, no thanks according to Patrick “Steinbrenner” Lefevre and he doesn’t like your style either. Let me say “Fuck you Lefevre” on your behalf Stijn. Take your negative stimulous and shove it.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Wouldn't you be pissed
when you have a guy who clearly has the potential to do so much more yet fails to? Of course winning De Ronde twice is huge but it just shows the bundles of talent this guy has. It’s a 9 month year, 6 months left after Flanders, there is no reason for Devolder to only target one race.
Proud member of Thuggetz nation.
Winning Flanders twice is nothing to sneeze at
But he only got away because everyone was marking Boonen. No Boonen, no win for Devolder. It was kind of a table-scraps victory really. Pretty smart boy to be getting such fancy table scraps, but still.
First time sure, but twice, c'mon.
The other riders that stupid?
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
If they didn't mark Devolder the second time then the answer is, yep.
Fool me once shame on you,
Fool me twice . . .
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
Not stupid
but outgunned. I don’t think they marked Devolder because they could only handle one and Boonen was stronger. Remember, Saxo were in dire straits, Ballan was out… there wasn’t much of a counterweight to QSI last year.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 31, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
No I wouldn't be pissed and I wouldn't make comments like Lefevere or Boonen.
But clearly they are disgruntled with each other.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
Oh sorry, I actually just caught that on the second passing.
good one
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
i think the bmc opportunities could be interesting
ballan and hincapie…. who plays decoy?
"Race radios in Cat 4?"
Ballan because hope's a fine thing,
but no-one will really expect George to win.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
+1
Hincapie has gotten to the point in his career where he’s really getting nothing more than sympathy votes. Sure, he’s likeable I guess, but seriously, how many chances can people really keep giving him to deliver? A lot I guess. He’s a great rider, but he’s no champion. He’s scared of his rivals and lacks the confidence to overcome them. People say he deserves to win…what a joke. He “deserves” what he accomplishes. Mark my words – and you all know it, he’ll choke.
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't want to characterise him as a choker,
but he’s a super domestique with a lovely smile… I love him. I just don’t think he’ll win.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
How many times has George been in a position to choke?
Don’t you have to be in the perfect position to win and only you can screw that up before you can call it a choke? George is a competitor and has been for many years, that isn’t going to change. He very rarely complains about what lady luck has delivered his way and has the respect of many because of that attitude. When he retires, if he wins a monument or not, he will be remembered as a very classy guy. A very elite group of riders.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
He'll be remembered as an American who could ride the cobbles well...
and couldn’t seal the deal.
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 31, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you think? There always seems to be more affection for him than that..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
great rider with loads of affection.
he carved out a very nice/profitable career. i don’t believe he is a choker. unfortunately, however, the history books won’t remember him. they only remember victories.
Rodania,,,,,,,Rodania,,,,,,,Rodania,,,,,,,Rodania
I never disputed all of that
I just think that at some point you have to start taking credit for the luck you make for yourself.
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea say what you want, but it's not choking.
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
RVV 02 is the only one you can really call a choke
He was in position to attack on the Muur.
Had he attacked, Tafi and the other Mapei guy never get back on, and HIncapie has to deal with either/and VanPete and Museeuw, or he solos home ala Wesemann.
But he held fire . . .
The other times he’s ridden better—or been screwed by mechanicals—and still not been in position to execute. Part of this has to do with being on a deficient classics team.
RVV 06
I didn’t like, when Hoste went with Boonen on the Valkenberg and George didn’t jump. But really, I think you have to judge him by Paris-Roubaix, that’s what he cares about most. And there I don’t think he’s choked. He’s been extremely good, had moments of bad luck (everyone does), and otherwise done what he can. When he was beaten, it was always fairly. He wasn’t as strong as Boonen in 2005, Boonen’s utterly inhuman year, but he was better than everyone else. That to me is how you measure the guy. I wouldn’t call him a champion because someone else won and that’s how we use that term in this sport, but other than that he’s great.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 31, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
he choked at P-R the first time Boonen rode him off his wheel
They were both on Postal, chasing Museeuw, and poor-ol’ George just didn’t have the legs to hold the wheel of his own domestique, so he took a fall. Say what you will, I’ve watched it over and over and I maintain, he took a fall – waited for a nice soft patch of grassy ditch, and just leaned into it, just to save a bit of face. I lost a lot of respect for him that day. A champion would have sucked it up and got dropped rather than quit.
I also lost respect for him when he absolutely robbed Oscar Periero of a well deserved stage win, the queen stage no less, up Pla d’Adet in the ‘05 TdF. If anybody else had sucked wheel and refused to pull like he did that day, then sprinted around the one guy that had pulled him all the way up – they’d have called it unsporting, yet because poor ol’ Big George is everybody’s sentimental favorite loser, he gets a hero’s welcome. I doubt Oscar Periero was patting him on the back. I’d love to hear what his reaction in the press was to Hincapie’s dirty move.
I’m not just bashing the guy,I’m just saying it like it is. I actually respect him in other aspects, as a noble of noble domestique and his committment to a long calendar year after year.
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
huh????
as for contention #1. yeah, sure. When have you ever seen a pro racer take an intentional dive at 40kph on cobbles???
as for #2: Pereiro ripped Hincapie at the time, not that hard to find—and Pereiro DID win the stage the next day. BUT, “robbing” is a pretty strong charge. If Pereiro had wanted to make sure of the win, he should have attacked George, which he didn’t, not once. You tow a guy to the line, you should expect to get out-sprinted.
If you don’t want that to happen, you have to drop ‘em. If you can’t drop ‘em, you ain’t getting robbed when they beat you. Especially on a climb where there’s minimal drafting involved AND weight-wise, HIncapie loses the w/kg proposition . . .
Watch the link from 4:25
As for the Pla d’Adet stage, yes, I’ll give you that it is bike racing after all, but if he had the energy to sprint gingerly in the last 75m, then he should have shared the work along the way. Merckx, Hinault, and Kelly would never have pulled that kind of crap. And as for the notion that he didn’t have to pull because he was working for Armstrong, well….Armstrong was content letting them have a go of it, Lance’s race GC wasn’t exactly at stake, it’s a weak excuse. I will contend though that Oscar should have forced him to either work a bit or attack, rather than just succumb to cheauffeuring him up the mtn. Periero’s failed tactically, but its hardly a win to brag about for Hincapie.
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, here's the link I meant to attach
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I obviously dont' know how to operate this f$#% thing, one more try here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hDpP-gWNHY
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
the ever-intricate polemics of last-km behavior. I was with George on the Pereiro thing, but I know it can be argued endlessly, or beyond what I can handle.
As for an intentional dive, that sounds utterly implausible.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 31, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, then....if it please the court...
I will respect his honor’s ruling.
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Your speculation is utter nonsense.
I’ve watched it over and over and I maintain, he took a fall – waited for a nice soft patch of grassy ditch, and just leaned into it, just to save a bit of face. I lost a lot of respect for him that day
In George’s remarks about that fall he said he literally passed out, exhausted, no legs left. Choking and not having the legs are two different things. Watch the movie or read his comments, or just keep making shit up in your head.
And in ’05 GH had every right to sit on that 14 man break since he was riding for GH. That is fair bike racing and nothing unsporting about George taking that win, and that has nothing to do with GH being a sentimental favorite. He benefits from riding for the yellow jersey wearer. Oscar winning would have been George gifting.
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"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
+1 and +1
if Pla d’Adet was robbery 93 % of all bikewins are robbery. If one don’t accept outcomes like that one should limit oneself to watching TTs probably. Just look at the reactions to Jens! gifting Garate the Giro win to see the opposite side of the coin. Most riders/DSs consider it lunacy and unprofessional no matter how well it went over with fans.
Also don’t believe the dive. People fall in crazy ways in P-R all the time. Don’t think you could even begin to analyze what caused that particular fall from tv images.
Gifting and robbing are apples and oranges
Pantani didn’t rob Armstrong at Mt. Ventoux either, it was a gift. I don’t think anybody accusing Periero of GIFTING that stage to Hincapie. I don’t BLAME Hincapie for taking the win, it’s just that he got such a big accolade for it, it didn’t seem so heroic to me. While I’m at it, let me take advantage of another opportunity to piss you all off…..Hincapie misses the yellow jersey by 5 seconds on stage 14 of the 09 TdF. He called it “mean spirited of Astana” to give a mild chase to his breakaway. WTF? Serioulsy? He was on Columbia, Astana owed him some sort of gift? “It was the chance of a lifetime and now I have nothing” and that astana’s chase was “Insulting” Whatever bro, nobody is entitled. Cry me a river.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh
I see it as sort of like Hushovd’s ride last year. There’s a lot of dignity in guys from another discipline making it up the huge climbs on occasion with the mountain goats. Also Hincapie has now acquired longevity status and is nearing Zoetemelk’s record so even a couple years back he was pretty respected. Nobody owed him a gift, of course — that’s not usually the case except when the stage winner paces someone to the maillot jaune or something. But Hincapie DEFINITELY earned the right to contest the stage win.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Mar 31, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of Hushovd . . .
I decided to re-watch his crash last year . . .
and after re-watching it a lot, I’ve decided that he took a dive too.
Decided he couldn’t beat Boonen in the sprint, so he found a nice cobbled section to crash on.
finally! a fellow visionary ;-)
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to beat this thing into the ground here, but....
I’d be less inclined to think that Hushovd’s fall was intentional compared to Hincapie’s. I mean, if you were going to take a fall, wouldn’t it make more sense to find a nice soft, pillowy ditch to land on rather than some bone crushing cobbles? Besides, George clearly soft pedaled, then stopped pedalling completely before blatently looking where he wanted to fall, then just leaned into it, letting gravity and the mild slope of the shoulder carry him into his womb-like ditch. Hushovd was balls to the wall, scratching and clawing with every pedal stroke, digging deeply into his “suitcase of courage” to hang not get gapped by the stronger Boonen. My only disappointment was his post race comments about how he knew he would have beaten Tommke in the sprint (uh….yeah, that’s the ticket).
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
where I still disagree with you
that’s a minimum 4-foot deep ditch, probably more that Hincapie launches into. It’s also full of . . . well . . . unmentionable agricultural by-products of a nitrogen-rich fertilizing capacity . . .
So, I just don’t see anyone ever concluding: “oh, my race is f*ed, I think I’ll take a dive into this here cow-shit-filled drainage ditch.”
I think his ego was in the process of being dealt a thorough thrashing
as well as the pretty humiliating realization that the kid hired to work for him was in fact a superior rider that he’d (and the rest of the folks at Postal) totally underestimated. They (IMHO) had no idea what a talent they were dealing with. Being taken to school by the boy faced Boonen probably hurt a lot more than being properly smoked by the master (Museeuw) on that day. Losing to Boonen as a result of a “crash” I’m sure sounded a lot better than being dropped by his own neo-pro domestique.
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I was uber annoyed w/ Handsome George at the time
but the more I think about it, if he was Italian or a wily old French pro, we wouldn’t have thought twice about it.
It is bad form, but it is also racing. At the end of the stage, it worked.
Sure, Jens! hit the brakes to give Garate a Giro stage win, but that is part of the legend of Jens!. If everyone rode like that, whom would we worship?
Vlaanderens Mooiste
Boasson Hagen
Edvald BH is out of both the Ronde and Paris-Roubaix due to injury. It’s an achilles tendon problem. Those thingies do not rock the casbah.
Think the Sky website's saying he still hopes to make Paris-Roubaix?
Not sure it seems very likely though.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Hmm, you might be right there.
Those are both silly long races for a young rider. He’s a big talent, but I’m not sure another year wouldn’t hurt.
Oh, the Danes
Still upset from losing Norway ;)
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Mar 31, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Pfff, as if
Everyone knows that oil is of the past, wind-power is the future BABY :D Isn’t that why Sweden “let” them go too?
Norway is like a whiny kid with too much energy
That’s why we let them go.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Mar 31, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad career move, Sweden. Bad career move.
Now the young Swedes come to Oslo to bring us food, while we can just sit back and relax.
Thus, we channel our excess energy into winning gold medals and talking smack.
Btw, u guys are so cute when you bicker over who of you is the biggest fool to have succumbed to our demands of freedom. Freeeedooom!
Yeah yeah, freedom and stuff
I’m sure this song is about the dissolution ;)
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember I had an inflammed achilles after doing the Ronde sportif and could hardly walk the next day while following the race
so it can definitely be a nuisance.
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 31, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe you should have held off for another year until you matured huh?
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Mar 31, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah...when I couldn't hang on to the other 17 year old kids on Molenberg
I should have packed it in
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Mar 31, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Those thingies made me stop running in HS...
…they suck, a lot, and badly.
Yeah.
I had achilles problems all last year while I was training for a half-marathon. It was okay while I was actually running, once I warmed up, but the post-run ice pack was my best friend.
Think it was the shoes, though—barely a twinge this year.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Mine goes bad in cold weather.
Especially after climbing rides. Or, annoyingly, surfing in cold water. Meh.

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