Driedaagse De Panne Stage 3a & 3b ...LIVE
by Jens on Apr 1, 2010 5:00 AM EDT
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Finishing day of De Panne. Those still in the race will tackle a 112km stage in the morning, most likely one for the sprinters. In the afternoon the shortish TT will decide the overall winner. Sporza have both on their schedule.
Live video 3a at 10:20 CEST (04:20 AM US eastern, 19:20 AEDT)
Live video 3b at 14:45 CEST (08:45 AM US eastern, 23:45 AEDT)
Look for links at cyclingfans, steephill, Myp2p, and BVLS.
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you know there's a reason for that... and 10 mins after the thread was on the front page
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
come join the fun here
http://www.podiumcafe.com/2010/4/1/1400026/driedaagse-de-panne-stage-3a-live
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
i've asked bruce's opinion...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
we'll migrate over for stage 3b.... cause i figured jens or someone would have a live thread up for THAT stage
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
The Fanpost is the place to be:)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
we've decided to be contrarian
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Do you think we decided or were we born this way?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Escape:
Saramotins, Eeckhout, Leduscher, Izaguirre,
Who will win?
Farrar? Guarnieri (No Benna)? Davis? McEwen? Hondo? Lorenzetto? Feillu?
feeling a little lonely?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
don't see why not. jens so kindly provided us with a spot
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
not a good thing.... what's the travel method?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Eurostar.
It leaves at 8.27 and I need to be there an hour early to check my bike in. First train into central London from my suburb is at 6.16, getting in at 7.44. That leaves me 45 minutes to get to St Pancras in a taxi and deposit my bike. This will be fine as long as the train is not late/cancelled. The other option is to get the underground, which starts earlier, but due to engineering works I’d have to get a taxi from significantly further out. I don’t know what to do…I’d be devastated if I missed the Eurostar, or got there too late to check the bike in!
no kind friends to drop you off? i would do that for you...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
only if Albertina were paying the congestion charge
(Taking a car into central London’s insanity, really. )
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
you forget who you're talking to....
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
is that like a toll?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
toll schmoll... what's a few pounds amongst friends
why do you guys think part of the reason i’m always up at 4am over here in virginia? hubby gets up then and leaves for work around 5.30am.. for the over 100 mile slog around dc and to aol…
you got’s to remember, we’ve got wide open spaces here
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
with all due respect that's madness
and why american’s pump out about 4 times as much CO2 per person as Europeans. Bah!
it's only been since nov 2008... since my accident
you wanted me to be w/o assistance when i couldn’t walk?
it’s a different mind set here. a balance btwn where you can afford to live and where the jobs are.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
No, it's totally the same here
just on a much smaller scale.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
of course not - and wasn't aware of the circumstances
but I imagine if I were in that situation I’d try and compromise in a different way – spending that much time in a car is my idea of hell
if i don't hear from him after three hours on the road, i call and see what's going on
and that’s by a route avoiding the parking lot known at i95
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Yep, hell.
Barring circumstances I have a hard time imagining, I’ll never car commute again, myself. But some people get locked into the idea of an enormous house/yard, and will waste spend hours and hours of their lives in traffic in order have it.
Yo--there are other concerns.
We moved away from the city center because of the schools. Indianapolis Public Schools are horrendous—the graduation rate is under 50%.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Oh, for sure.
But even then (and this isn’t aimed at you), that’s often an issue of perception over reality. The schools around me are tops – and I’m right in the middle of things.
Wish I could say the same thing about Chicago
Lived in city for 10 years, but now with a 5-month old, I don’t see how we can stay unless we opt for private $chool.
We have Magnet schools and that is definitely the ideal situation, as we love the city
We need more magnet schools though to meet the need.
we've got lots...
bunch ‘o language ones, performing arts, various sciences, even a “jobs” (which seems like some computer-friendly version of vo-tec). Enough are new that the jury’s still out on how high they’ll yank up the scores (the new ones tend to be in previously-failing schools that might otherwise have been closed, and many still draw, additionally, from the home neighborhood) but it does mean better teachers, a nucleus of interested, committed parents, and at minimum a spare language (always useful).
when we first moved down here, oh lo those 20 years ago, the commute was only half the distance
when his job moved, he first lived in hotels during the week and home on the weekends; then into a succession of apartments; then we bought a second house; then again into rented rooms after he had to switch jobs again and his salary was half of what it use to be.
not going to keep moving when his job moves a little distance. we’ll prob move again in about five years… back up to loudoun county or that. but i refuse to live in places where you can’t have a fenced yard because “it doesn’t look right”. sorry the safety of my puppies matters more than your aesthetics. (the poa’s. not you sui)
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
they take them in a bike bag without questions
did it for flanders last year – just carry it on as though it was a large, oddly-shaped luggage – no need for a special check-in
Hmm, might not be very practical.
I’m in Upminster. I’m busy tonight in town until about 7.30 and I haven’t packed yet…nightmare
ah well, as you say probably not practical
if you have them you could try an old duvet cover or curtains with gaffer tape – basically you just need to stop it looking too much like a bike
as it’s on the train there’s little need to worry about padding as it’ll only be you handling it
That's possible.
I think I might just get the tube though, really early, and get a taxi from Bromley by Bow. I’ll fret if I have to rely on the c2c train being on time!
It looks like Australians need to give you lot lessons in being yappy...
Let’s leave poetry and try novels..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
sorry. just got slammed by a sinus headache... my brain is sloshing around
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Nasty...I'll be very very quiet...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
ya know, sometimes it's difficult what's true and what's not on april fool's day at the cycling sites...
i’m seriously hoping that cn didn’t dream up assan bazayev’s plastic surgery on his nose.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bazayev-to-return-to-kazakhstan-after-plastic-surgery
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
to make a joke/farce of such a thing would be uncalled for. because bazayev did have a nasty fall on tuesday
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Well, consider the alternative which is that the dude only has 20 percent of his nose left...
But I understand where you are coming from.
Hi
haven’t seen the sprint, but it’s nice for Farrar to get a win now. Maybe success will come a bit earlier for him, this season.
bookmark it
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=worldcyclingchannel2#g/u
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Thanks
oo, is that the uphill TT from the Settimana Lombarda? Nice.
No Jose Rujano though, despite ISD being there.
yes. stage 2 will be on raisport piu at 19.30 local... you can find the feed here, just go down the list on your left and select the Rai Sport Piu channel
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
afternoon everyone
are we talking here or the fanpost? nice one farrar btw, if all goes well i’m going to rack up the points.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
cool
btw, i was scrolling thru the comments, can sympathise with your travel issues tomorrow morning. had to be a bank holiday as well didn’t it!
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Yeah, in hindsight I probably should have gone today...not sure why I didn't!
I’ll get there, but I may not get much sleep!
indeed
be worth it though. mucho jealous
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
bank holidays around here actually make travelling easier... all the commuters off the road
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
that's true
but it often decimates public transport over here…
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
lucky you with public transportation...
in virginia, especially, it’s nonexistent…
hell it’s nonexistent outside of major city centers…
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
ouch
yeah we brits love a good moan, but we’re pretty lucky really.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Well there was some rumour that you brought whinging to the world...
but we don’t believe it really….
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
oh no
it’s definitely true…
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Now I feel bad..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
yeah, we're good at that, too ;-)
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
VisitBritain should use that in their marketing
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Visit Britain are dead to me.
& I speak in a professional capacity. Tried to take our certificate off us this year, said they’d only given it us last year “in error”.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
haha
don’t worry!
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
My only hope that Albertina will respond according to the (now dead) stereotype ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
yawn...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Amgen Tour of California Teams Announced
Looks like AEG is out with the list of teams this morning.
by Chief Commissaire on Apr 1, 2010 8:20 AM EDT reply actions
or grivko... he's inspired
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
bold prediction!
i’d like to see millar win it tho.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
grivko beat millar by 5 secs at the paris nice TT this year
so i think it could be close.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
other way around
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Reverse order of that, but time gap is right.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Oh
I suppose Millar was riding for GC at the P-N, so something was at stake there also. I didn’t realise Westra and Quinziato are out of the GC, but they are.
eh
apologies. the other way round was indeed what it was.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Definitely pulling for Millar
My VDS team needs another boost after the one from Farrar.
"And now for something completely different"
+1
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Well, Stevenson is Swedish... ;)
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
And then there's Jens...who moved the other way (I think).
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
LOL...works for me...
but I had identical twin students, now doctors who did exchanges in Sweden and Norway, and Norway won hands down. Even I’ve met lots of their Norwegian friends, who visit with some regularity and a great deal of enthusiasm.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I was setting TFH up for a joket here, but he seems unwilling to point out..
..the fact that Norway abolished its nobility in 1821…
I’m pleasantly unsurprised that Norway won yet another crushing victory over Söta bror.. :)
I should butt out here then.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
The thing is Norway has Fjords and the Northern Lights...
and they’re two things I very much want to see…so I’m biased I think…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No, we kept our nobilities much longer
And here’s an interesting blog post on that matter. In Swedish btw.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess most of the other are from Värmland
The joke is on you.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The jokes are on the house around here...
What is this Värmland hangup with you guys?
It might be just me
But dansband is enough, isn’t it? And they talk strange.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The Swedes make for good slaves. I say: "Keep'em!"
We can confiscate their Stereos and dispand their parades..
The next thing you know
They will be walking up and down on Karl Johan on 6th of June, singing their songs.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The lack of Jens is why I didn't even mention what great cabin boys Swedes make.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
yes. why waste it
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Holden is Jens' long lost son, didn't you know?
They are surely related.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
yesterday? or today's stage, the 2nd?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
ah, that's prob true
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Morning, all. Any news from the TT?
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
nowt on the ticker..
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
tapping the foot... awaiting video
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
not yet.
Ticker, Fillipo Pozzato isn’t being allowed to be sick: “In the press room of De Panne is Filippo Pozzato conversation topic number one. Italian journalists have a cyclist of Katyusha phoned and got him coughing on the phone. He would also have mild fever. Is he really sick or his team play a game?”
good ol google translate..
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Topeka translate.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
got that right
tho, they didn’t carry it all the way thru the website
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
vshare being a bit rubbish..
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
I have a live feed! First time in a week...hallelujiah!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yay! Bodes well for de Ronde.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Fingers crossed...it is Holy week isn't it? A little miracle...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
as she jinxes herself... sigh
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
It did die for a second, but that's passed so I'm choosing to be positive ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
there ya go
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
another 100 riders to go...
as bozic starts
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
wow! there's that many left in the race
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
i know
surprised me as well. paolini goes in about an hour and a half.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
where's albertina? didn't sicard just start
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
in the Apple Store with her defective i phone, I believe
not so defective she wasn’t tweeting on it
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
well, it is an iphone after all...
yes, i have an unreasonable loathing for all things apple
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Now, now. Aside from me, all the computer geeks here have Apples.
I am an Apple owning Luddite, but it has nice graphics ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
i suppose if one needs to have graphics....
not so important in my life
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I probably don't need them, but i like them..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
tuft
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
No...after the very tolerant DR, I doubt she'll go there again in a hurry..
Interesting that when Robbie Mcewen and Stuey were asked the question at TDU they laughed. Stuey then said he couldn’t go there but Mcewen’s answer was hilarious.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
What was it?
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Shaving rather than waxing... but guys who shave their arms... well, that's just not on was the general thrust.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Dom's the only one who hasn't taken it with humour.
I don’t mind if he declines to answer but I was pretty pissed off actually at what he wrote to me. It was very patronising.
yes
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I agree. It was misogynistic and extraordinarily patronising. He'll never be on my VDS team.
That said, I didn’t like the question either… but I know the spirit in which it was asked.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Might actually be a sense of humor disconnect there.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Why? I fail to see the sexism as in any way funny...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
that was okay... the comment to Albertina was of a completely different tone.
… and the ‘girl’ stuff was just shit.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
This from the woman who implied yesterday that our little female brains aren't fit for cycling minutiae...
I found that far more offensive than Rollin’s smack talk
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
funny, cause I "heard" that totally differently.
US standard discourse is practically irony free, but I imagine Seahorse in “’Strine,” which adds a more complex overlay. Taken that way, it’s partly ironic, though also with a more literal meaning of “can’t see the forest” (riders) “for the trees” (stats).
But yeah, we’re again hitting our heads on the “tone / intent / humor” do not automatically translate from country to country or region to region (or person to person), never mind actual language to language. Thus smiley, parenthetical comment, and the most important tool—the willingness to believe that your fellow PdC posters have a pretty darn functional brain, and a love for the sport.
Thank you though. i was only being half serious...
and I sure as hell wasn’t aiming for offensive.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ha... that's not what I meant to suggest...
This site would however suggest that more men than women get into the minutiae. If you’re offended, sorry. That said, suggesting that men are smarter than women would never enter my head…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Surely more that he didn't find Albertina's question funny?
(& Ted King was hardly gushing with praise for the Cervelo women’s team even when prompted, so…)
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
I didn't find it funny either. The polite thing would have been to ignore it...
and Ted King … well i didn’t make it through the thread… so I didn’t see the Cervelo stuff.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
He didn't get to be who he is
by being polite.
He’s in a crazy competitive world and he is trying to beat it. Manners are way down on his priority list.
if mcewen can answer the same question with humour
when he has reached the top of the sport, maybe Dr can take a leaf out of his book. And let’s face it, it’s a sad day when I suggest that robbie should be the manners role model.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
He didn't have to give up his time to come talk to us
… which he did… & if we are going to continue to have these chats, well, we’re just going to have to be prepared for the fact that not every rider is always going to respond to everything in a way which all of us would always like.
If you’re a rider, it’s a hell of a lot more risky doing something like that – for this very reason – than it is doing a straight up press interview. & for that – & his riding – he has my respect, however much I thought his answer to Albertina was rather over the top.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Don't disagree with any of that ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
well in that case you probably have to accept the bloke as he is
& possibly not prescribe such a big personality transformation…
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
I'm not prescribing anything civetta.
I’m commenting… that’s the fun of PdC. And the fact that we don’t all agree makes it more interesting for me.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
he also had no context for the goofier
questions. He was like a child who wanders into a movie …
We know albertina is just having fun with the little gag of doing the wax or shave poll and it playing into hottitude somehow i guess. Then there’s the little hockey debate going on here. But he had no context for those question and … and obviously also not his style.
" sprints like a climber, and climbs like a sprinter" - internet forum person
Good analogy yeehoo.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Robbie's answer is just one answer
So we’ve had three chats on PdC. (I am not counting Ten Dam because I never read it):
- Ted King obviously uses his King Of Style as a schtick. It’s funny but ultimately it’s a protective barrier that allows him to make it through the world of pro cycling.
- Brent Bookwater is a wide-eyed little kid hanging on the end of the peloton. We’ll see if he stays in Europe and if he does how he changes because he’ll need to change.
- Dom Rollin is meeting the aggression of the peloton with aggression of his own. Fighting fire with fire you might say. Growing up in Quebec, more macho than what King and Bookwater grew up with, allows him to do that easier. And at this point, still trying to establish himself, that non-nonsense asshole demeanor allows him to thrive. If he succeeds he’ll probably mellow a little like Robbie.
I’m not saying you have to like him or that’s a great way to get through the world but pro cycling is seriously male and even if King or Bookwater don’t mention it, women are inferior in that world.
They are slower. That's a valid metric.
“inferior” or “not due normal human respect”—that’s not intrinsic to the sport, anymore than it’s intrinsic to math departments.
Slower is no problem...
It was the implication that a girl couldn’t ride hard. i suspect i also took offense because i know Albertina and her passion for cycling, which involves a lot more than sitting on the couch.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Albertina sure rides hard, we know that
DR OTOH looks at cycling as fighting for position to get up the Muur-a whole couple levels tougher.
Yeah, he’s sexist. And rude. That’s not a problem for him evidently at this point in his life.
Agreed..
and hopefully he’ll mellow..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And I'll learn a lesson too.
I don’t want people to think I’m nothing but shallow. You people know me (well, in an online sense!) but Dom doesn’t, and perhaps I shouldn’t have asked something as light hearted…but ho hum.
Water under the bridge now...
but given your deep knowledge and passion, you’ll be able to think of something light-hearted and clever ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You know what, i'd like to think that, but he was aggressive...
he could have just ignored it.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It is the internet, English isn't his first language...
all sorts of stuff.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Nice of you to say so...he lost me then,
and as i said, i didn’t even like the question.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I know, but he should realise that too.
I didn’t find it very funny being labelled an un-tough ‘girl’ who obviously has no idea what cycling is all about and has probably never seen a classic otherwise I wouldn’t have dared to ask such a lighthearted question. The implication was sexist, and assumed I was ignorant. Which I’m not by a long chalk. It may suprise him to know that I’ve ridden plenty of cobbles and plan to do so again on Saturday, probably in a howling gale and pouring rain. I may not be a good cyclist but I’m tough.
He didn't like the question...you didn't like the answer...
His answer toward the hockey question was a big clue that he wanted serious questions…
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
Bruce I'm with you on that...
I’m just trying to say that I think he wanted to be serious…and I don’t think he meant to be sexist toward Albertina…at least I hope not..
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
You know, I don't normally get my knickers in a twist about sexism
but it was a big put down, and unnecessary.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That's fair enough, but I still think it was uncalled for.
And anyway, he hadn’t answered the hockey question by the time I wrote mine.
So in order to be taken seriously, you could think about asking a question
based on what we know is your extensive knowledge of, and passion for the sport… maybe?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yes I know, and I probably would have done later but I had to run off to a rehearsal after 25 minutes.
Don’t worry, I won’t do this again.
so now to prove that we're on a par with the male fans round here
we should constrain ourselves to the serious stuff & let the men handle the trivia, right? ;-)
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Well, maybe not trivia with a salacious undertone ;)
i would never survive without trivia =)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Hm, the point of questions is normally to find out answers.
Not to massage egos. In that sense, any question, if you really care about the answer, is a legit question, I guess. But if he figures it’s the most pressing question in your mind, he’s not nuts to assume that your mind runs in shallower channels than it actually does? Still not appropriate to be rude, of course!
And you were... show the next guy your big, beautiful brain..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Can this be the theme of your beer talk please?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
well played
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Ted will be peeved that he didn't post this :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
There's that too...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I try to be serious..
Couple of remarks
- Gavia opened thread late
- Answer were pretty long
- Failed internet connection
- Not to much chemistery between DP and Podiumcafe
What’s my point? uuuuh
I noticed that...wheras the Bookwalter thread
had lots of chemistry.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Frankly
we are all bloody wierdoes.
Mind you, he rides a bike for a living, and that’s bloody weird too.
Loonies the lot of us.
indeed
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
internets... internets
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
yeah
later on he admitted he had had problems with the “British sense of humour”… very nearly replied that I wasn’t sure we actually had one
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
22 years
and i’m still struggling
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
I actually got up and lurked. After his little grenade I just watched.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
maybe he was expecting more serious questions?
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
Saw what you wrote in the other thread.
I’m confident that he’d have been directed to other similar threads. if he didn’t read them, that’s his problem. It’s a fan site.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Fair enough...
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
Perhaps I shouldn't have asked a question like that. I won't again.
But people can choose to ignore rather than go into attack mode.
I don't think he was attacking you.
I can see that you think that but looking at it from his point of view….no.
No he probably wasn't his intention.
But I don’t think even being sacrcastic about that kind of thing is funny. And I’m not even a feminist!
. . .
And I’m not even a feminist!
Albertina! We are so going to have to have break the no politics rule in person.
Please do! She deserves a very big (political) talking to
…softened by beer.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Well you bloody well should be. it's why people continue to get away with this shit.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It is not a lack of femminism that leads men to act ignorantly.
It is lack of worthwhile male role models who treat women with honour and respect.
I felt his comments were derogatory and insulting. I believe that there may have been a tone disconnect between his internal voice and what the screen actually said, but the words have no place in an open forum discussion board.
Know your audience!
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia
by bought with blood on Apr 1, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
Because the “it’s not meant badly” answer still often works out to “you don’t get respect / promotion in any of a large number of jobs.” Somewhat immune to that in singing, I suppose, unless they bring back castrati, or where parity is protected by law.
Ha! Well actually, I often get passed up for countertenors!
But that’s usually for reasons of ‘period authenticity’….grrrr
Haha, good one.
I did a St John Passion a couple of weeks ago and the conductor actually asked my friend, who is a brilliant beautifully fruity mezzo, to try and sound more like a countertenor! I simply could not believe the nerve. If he’d said that to me I’d have had a very big diva moment indeed!
wondering how to phrase that in terms of tone
rather than gender. More uniform coloring? Less inflection?
That's a pretty good assessment Ted!
Less rich generally. Less fruity. A thinner sound, sometimes faster vibrato (although my friend certainly doesn’t have offensive warble). More direct.
I doubt it.
He’d already popped in on our pre-chat thread, plus there were 3 earlier live chats for him to check out—one of them with a teammate.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Dom... and i think that's being too kind.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I guess you can read a comment in many ways. I first read it as irony/defense mechanism.
If the question really pissed him off twell.. That’s just his insecurity shining through I guess. Machismo in sport is unsurprising though. It is very possible that he didn’t realize that Albertina is a girl though. Not that that makes it better, just different in a way.
I'm Australian...machismo in sport is served in mother's milk...
I like to think it’s changing though..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I just reread the question you asked him.
It didn’t come off as being written in a way that would have evoked a serious answer. Way too wordy and was asking for trouble, please note that his answer was taken as a joke by most who read it. Maybe he should have skipped the question though, especially if he thought the question was poorly written otherwise you could just take it as an attempt at comedy.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
I know I know. I think I've said everything I want to on this.
To a girl it was offensive, whether meant in jest or not. That’s how I took it and I’m not the only one. But I’ll be more careful next time. Ted King answered a similar question very much in the spirit in which it was asked, but he’s a different person, I know.
Just so you know, I smiled when I saw the question.
It made me feel at home. Like the running jokes that a family or circle of friends share being trotted out for one more laugh. I was deeply saddened by the response. I as a Canadian and a man apologize for the rudeness.
I felt that we lost a little something when you got hurt there.
These are the risks one takes when one invites strangers into ones home.
I also wonder what the response would have been if you had a less obviously feminine screen name?
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia
by bought with blood on Apr 1, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
late opinion but
i was in the thread following all the banter….i think the question was good and i thought the answer was funny also. given the context of his other answers i think it was an attempt at a joke. but i’ve had my “online feelings” hurt where i see the text differently than others. if you feel offended, that’s how you feel. but you don’t need to be more careful next time bc you didn’t do anything wrong! ride on!
Rodania,,,,,,,Rodania,,,,,,,Rodania,,,,,,,Rodania
Thanks bikepig :-)
I guess it’s about context…what’s fine with one person may not be fine with another, but anyway, water under the bridge.
Nothing wrong with the question.
I’d like to think that the answer was a botched (imho) attempt at being funny. My last two nickles on the subject.
I don't beleive the question was poorly written.
I did feel it might be a bit of an “inside joke”, DR could not be expected to know of the long running conversation which has consumed so many keystrokes here on the PdC.
All of that does nothing to make what he said right or on point.
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia
by bought with blood on Apr 1, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If a serious answer was desired then a more tactfully question should have been crafted.
How many times do you see a poll where the results are skewed by the use of phrases or specific wording. How the question is asked makes a huge difference.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
Albertina's beaten herself up already... she's a fast learner
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Thanks Seahorse...not sure what more I can say on the topic really!
I’ve said why I was offended and I’ve acknowledged that maybe there was fault on my side too. Flying dog, please don’t think of me badly!
I don't think there's anything else to say...
except no to Frinky and handcuffs ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So now's the time to just be thrilled that tomorrow you'll be on your way :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
The one thing I'll say about this, and this is not meant to defend DR, who overreacted at least...
…is that a lot of male cyclists might well have taken quite a bit of abuse over shaving. My LBS owner, who’s a very liberal, cool guy, tells stories about being the subject of quite a bit of abuse over it in HS. I can well imagine that at least some cyclists, esp from non-traditional cycling countries, have a bit of a chip on their shoulders about it. DR’s reaction read as something on that order to me, frankly.
Dumb question though?
Why the hell DO cyclists shave? I’ve heard a number of reasons, e.g….
- road rash
- nightly massage
But none of them seem sufficient for any but full time pros. Could someone who does more than my commute/weekend ride effort please enlightment. My current best guess is that it is part of the look…
Really????
Surely, again, it only makes a difference to guys who can hold 55kph… i mean, i have some fur but its not the reason I’m gasping for breath at the traffic lights…
:)
Nah
skin heals faster after crashes. And then there is the massage thing.
by sebastiandeluded on Apr 1, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't buy the heals faster...
…but having had a nasty crash last summer, getting bandages on and off is less unpleasant if you’re not also pulling hair out, by a fair bit.
Pros can more or less expect to crash.
it can heal faster if you keep it covered all the time
(what messes with this argument is that the hair is growing back while the bandage is covered. And after a couple of days of being smothered by tegaderm, the hair follicles in-grow. very pleasant).
But shaving just looks better . . .
pretty much
that and the “everyone is doing it” thing. Anything else is pretty much defensive justification.
Sorry - I've just reread my own post and realised it could be taken as insulting...
…. for the record, I was the one asking the dumb question about the absence of hirsuteness in the peleton – not Albertina about how it was achieved in a particular case…
:)
Possibly. That had never occurred to me and I certainly didn't mean it in any way like that!
But yes, I see where you are coming from. To be honest, I like shaved legs!
Gosh I hope not. That I would never do!
I’m so used to the idea of men having shaved legs that seeing hairy ones suprises me sometimes!
i'm getting quite perturbed at my internet today... quite perturbed
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
tho, i think it might be more my local network, than the internet
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
ha
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
those blogs
are so vacuous! i’m pretty sure they are written by a press officer as much as the rider themselves..
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
They must be. The grammar in HH's was about a thousand times better than his...
and every time I read a Schlecklet tweet I’m reminded of Frinkles… not so in the blog.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
indeed
some heavy-duty editing methinks. at the very least!
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
I'm grateful in a way. Every time I hear Renshaw or HH say 'I done',
I try not to cringe, but I do.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
heh
you teach english right? my mum does, and she’s the same.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Thanks. Actually, i want to smack their English teachers...well, not really..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Haussler has an excuse.
He moved to Germany when he was 14, so presumably his schooling in English would have suffered for that.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
No, it's a rural expression. He speaks Australian 'bushie' perfectly ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
all i understood was "devolder"
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Better now...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
kenny !!!
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Where are you? Singapore?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Kuala Lumpur
Had a crappy flight over – seat kicker behind me and non-functional in-flight entertainment :(
I loathe seat kickers! are you excited out of your skin? I am for you...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No, I'm just tired and bleugh.
Too much to do before leaving, I’m not in the holiday zone yet. But I’m sure I’ll perk up before the weekend – beer, frites and waffles to the rescue!
Sleep, drink lots of water and no alcohol until the frites arrive ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
indeed
drinking on a long flight is a terrible idea. you must be feeling the jet lag…
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Well, I was tired and bleugh before I got on the plane
but it probably hasn’t helped any.
(OK, I’m going to stop complaining now.)
Melatonin at bedtime.
Really helps reset the body clock.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Well i hope you have a good book ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
we aim to intertain
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
i can but try
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
isn't ignatiev done yet?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
am mcewen starts
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Has it been noted yet that Lampre got their ProTour licence?
Was mentioned this morning by the Sporza men.
considering i don't so much understand dutch... no.... good news for them, lampre
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
There's a story at CN in English.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
i'll wander over eventually
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
be nice though
simoni is so entertaining.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
come on, ignatiev
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
pfft....
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
If there was some way I could score points off guys on your team
I might be pleased to hear that.
Good for you though. How much did Amorison cost, 1pt?
Ok.. He haven't got a single result in a TT..
For the last 3 yers.. Lots of DNS… Bah.. I’m not even sure about place 4 now
one TT result for Paolini
is that he finished 112th in a 30k tt in Tirreno Adriatico last year. So maybe doesn’t TT that well.
I've just spent my whole lunch hour in the flippin Apple Store....BAH
At least my phone is back to normal though. Now what’s going on?
you missed sicard.... tedvdw posted a pic for you
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
still currently in the top 10 i think... subject to change tho
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
how many left to start?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
tnx
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
they're talking to ballan now
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
picks pippo, cance, flecha
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
there was something on today's ticker
which said he was feelig slightly better and would probably ride.
Not completely clear, but:
15:52 Pozzato driving round
“Filippo Pozzato will surely ride the Tour,” said his team director Jef Braeckevelt. “This morning he is ailing, but this afternoon he is a little better.”
Ballan
said he is riding the Tour of California with Hincapie instead of the Giro.
by Chief Commissaire on Apr 1, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
whoa.... wasn't he saying earlier this year how much he was looking forward to riding the giro?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Before You Believe It...
…Check your calendar. VeloNews and Cyclingnews aren’t the only ones pulling your leg.
by Chief Commissaire on Apr 1, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Wouter Weylandt!
Actually he’s just finishing the TT from Algarve here….
Anyone have an idea what’s happened to him?
Yeah
Reason # 257 not to take him seriously on Sunday. Wonder how he’ll do next year at Radio Shack?
He'd fit right in at *Lotto.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Hell I don't know
I just said Radio Shack since he was with Bruyneel before. I just figure that unless he pulls a win out of his ass, he’s dead to Quickstep.
agreed
i thought he might join astana after last season
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
And Vaughters just announced his return to professional cycling
Believes he will be great asset to Contador inte the Tour next year. Not that bad a joke.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
indeed
something to look forward to..
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
ROFL...
…JV might win the April Fools award this year.
for this if nothing else:
The best part is: we have found hairy legs to be faster in the wind tunnel.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Yoik!
1. Svein Tuft (Can) 19’08"
2. Bert Grabsch (Dui) 19’14"
3. Dominique Cornu 19’18"
4. Eric Berthou (Fra) 19’26"
5. Stijn Devolder 19’34"
6. Thomas De Gendt 19’35"
7. Leif Hoste 19’36"
8. Michail Ignatjev (Rus) 19’37"
9. Federico Canuti (Ita) 19’38"
10. Damien Gaudin (Fra) 19’39"
not enough x"s surely?
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
nice to see roulston riding well
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
come on dave...
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
+2
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
+3
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
+6
"And now for something completely different"
by Boilermaker19 on Apr 1, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
he's been tweeting that he's not been feeling too good lately
sandbagging? my VDS team hopes so
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
I would totally love to see him do well.
He rode so strongly in the spring last year for no real result.
solid bet for top 10-20 at his best...
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Hasn't quite done that well in the past:
2009 32nd
2008 37th
2007 DNF
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
huh
i always thought of him as better than that…
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
last year
He was in the decisive break with Chavanel when Devo blew by both. Q tried to match Devo, couldn’t, and faded at the end.
rhanks both
that must be why
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
too many people in the office for me to watch, alas
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Puts a new spin on "Millar time."
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Or old
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant being able to beat himself by 5 seconds.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Ah
I was told there would be no reading
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd like that skill...
…there are plenty of times when having a 5 second advantage on myself would make all the difference.
yes dave!
4 secs quicker
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Awesome!
"And now for something completely different"
by Boilermaker19 on Apr 1, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I've got to catch a bus in 10 minutes
—post a couple of screen captures for me if someone comes in very hot and impressive, OK?
grivko 24 down
booya
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
beautiful
millar in 1st
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
+1
"And now for something completely different"
by Boilermaker19 on Apr 1, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
vaughters asking on twitter is this a joke..
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
here..
http://twitter.com/Vaughters/status/11427446436
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
that would be nice..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Not really
P-R more likely
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 1, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
He has no punch up the hills
look at yesterday’s sprint where just let go and lost 3 s to the other 4.
No punch but he can grind
I remember him doing some mean mountain domestique work for saunier du cheats at the tdf
but prob you are right – maybe better chance at PR
by addict on Apr 1, 2010 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cruel Bruce... Frinky's gone back to bed now...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I don't even have him, and I think it's nice.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
+2
so pleased for him
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Since I have no one who's scoring any points
this is what I’m reduced to. Not that different from last year when I didn’t have a team.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
I don't think I can sink any further... just call me Kenny.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
But there is honour in those names... oh alright then...
either will do.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You can...
…I’m still ahead of you (or behind)…
That's surely not possible...
My only consolation is I appear to be in very good company.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
ouch grivko
way way down
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
yesterday took a bit much out of the boys in the break?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
yeah i think so
hard day before that as well.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
tuft
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
So:
1. David Millar (GBr) 18’44"
2. Lieuwe Westra (Ned) 18’49"
3. Svein Tuft (Can) 19’08"
4. Bert Grabsch (Dui) 19’14"
5. Dominique Cornu 19’18"
6. Hayden Roulston (N) 19’19"
7. Eric Berthou (Fra) 19’26"
8. Andrej Grivko (Oek) 19’31"
9. Stijn Devolder 19’34"
10. Thomas De Gendt 19’35"
not too shabby devolder
"Cofidis Keukeleire in revelation set off a seat and made the job off." Oh Google translator...
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 1, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Whee!
Cracked the top 100!
"And now for something completely different"
by Boilermaker19 on Apr 1, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
geez... millar's got a packed schedule
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Nice to see Millar having a happy non-angry interview...
…gracious and a little bemused.
millar reckons he's doing giro tour and vuelta
interesting.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
did the same last year, no?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
now you mention it
i guess he’s a pretty solid rider for the team.
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
The flowers go so nicely with his kit.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
snort
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Gah. My husband's team has both Milllar and Grivko.
He’s shot up to 112th, while my son and I are adjacent at 216 and 217. At least we’re all in the top half—all three of us were out of it at the beginning of the week.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
10 points awesome!
I wish I could score 10 points.
Lucky people getting 10 points.
If it weren’t for boom and langeveld surging in for minor placings at E3 I wouldn’t have had points in a long while. Oh and roche got me a couple a CI.
But wow unless maaskant, langeveld, and Boom blow up this weekend I will languish until the Ardennes.
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia
by bought with blood on Apr 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
At least you aren't being beaten by Jens
Only ten teams below me :-(
by thebongolian on Apr 1, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
There's a certain pride in being a serious contender for Lanterne Rouge.
Except maybe when you get to that “beaten by Jens” bit.
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Devo & \o/ having a friendly chat this morning
http://nl.tinypic.com/m/9l8uxi/1 (slideshow-in-a-vid)
"You think you have it bad on your team? Listen to this!"
The advantage of becoming pigeon takes enormous proportions.--Sporza live ticker, Stage 2 Driedaagse de Panne, courtesy of Google Translate.
Oy
I step away from cycling for one day and look what happens.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 1, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
you are the glue chris :)
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
Vacansoleil!
Lombardia, after 1 stage, Carrara on 2 place, just 0:16 off the leader. Sergei Lagutin had good day, he is on 15 place in GC
One day at a time.
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