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Palmdale Is Da City!

Toc-main_mediumWord on the web is that Palmdale, jewel of the Antelope Valley, birthplace of Afroman, the 25th fastest growing city in America*, has graciously stepped up and agreed to host the start of Stage 6 of the 2010 Amgen Tour of California! Woo Hooo!!! Awesome. Totally awesome. Palmdale. yippee... All snark aside, thanks Palmdale for doing us cycling fans a solid and taking one for the team. Pasadena can keep their Rose Parade and Rose Bowl, and all their old houses and architectural landmarks and other snooty old money nonsense. If you play your cards right, you get us next year too! Lucky you. FYI, we like beer and BBQ.

Oh, and check out the new stage map and profile (pdf alert). Now that is some extra chunky climby goodness right there. 12,000 feet of climbing over 135 plus miles.That is gonna hurt. If Afroman was here, I think he would put it a little something like this... "I was gonna climb a mountain, but then it got high, I was gonna ride up to the top, but then it got high, then it got high, then it got high, la la la la la la..."

(Hey Gav, put that cool "Welcome to California!"postcard picture in here someplace, will ya? Thanks)

*based on percentage change

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Now if only they could fix that wimpy finish

Great to see that they found a way to still go over the tail end of the Angeles Crest Highway.
Upper Big T is a great road for them to use.

For any locals, I guess from this that the ’crest is only damaged up as far as Red Box?

Unfortunately, with that finish the stage still screams "small breakaway gets swept up by medium sized group containing all the GC contenders within a mile or two of the line.

Losing that last 10-15 miles would make it much more likely for the big guns to ride the stage aggressively….

"Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill" - Fausto Coppi

by muk on Apr 15, 2010 6:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Upper Big T

Looks like some scrumptious climbing right there.

It seems like this route might be harder than the original, actually.

by Jen See on Apr 15, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

The final pitch up to the Angeles Crest Highway is a great spot to launch an attack.

Just prior to the KOM2.

That’s precisely where I used to dive out the back of any group rides :-)

All in all I do think that the ride from Palmdale to that intersection is much more difficult than getting there from Pasadena straight up the Angeles Crest highway.

"Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill" - Fausto Coppi

by muk on Apr 15, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hysterical!

my former spouse lived in Palmdale with his “girlfriend” for years after we divorced. I always got a kick out of that. Property there is much cheaper than in LA. They both worked in LA and commuted the “commute of death” everyday. He deserved the torture involved, believe me.

Palmdale has a definite reputation. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

by ZoeRochelle on Apr 15, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gah

The Antelope Valley FW scares the poo out of me. I can’t imagine commuting on that thingy.

It does make for an easy backway to Big Bear though. The 14 to the Pearblossom, rather than across the 210.

by Jen See on Apr 15, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Question

Why in SoCal is the definite article used before numerically named freeway/highways, whereas in NorCal no article is used? e.g. “the 5” and “the 101” vs. just “5” and “101”

by M. Anatole on Apr 15, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, yes

A curious fact. Maybe because there are way way way more freakin’ freeways south of Ventura than there are north of it? Or, maybe the NorCalis just can’t be bothered with spare articles. Conservation and all.

by Jen See on Apr 15, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

You picked up on that. You can tell which part of California someone is from by that. I actually have a well considered theory on that very question based on my noticing it when I moved from Southern Cal to Norther Cal a long time ago. My theory is as follows… All the Cal freeways also have names, beside just number designations, so the 2 is also the “Glendale” freeway, and the 5 is the “Golden State” freeway, and the 134 is the “Ventura” freeway, etc. People in Southern Cal tend to use the name more than they use the number, and people in Northern Cal rarely use the name and use the number more often. So the So Cal folks are used to saying “The Golden State Freeway”, and Nor Cal folks are used to saying “Highway 5”. So, when people in So Cal started to use the number instead of the name, they just swapped out the name part only, and they left behind the “the”. Also, people in So Cal are dumber than people in Nor Cal.

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 15, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

never really thought about it but yeah, we just use just the number in NorCal.

like Jimbo says it must be we are simply smarter up here.

But Jimbo- it is Interstate 5 not Highway 5. But I-5 will do.

by ZoeRochelle on Apr 15, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duh, me. I-5

I should come clean and point out that I avoid the central valley too, and the east bay… basically everything east of treasure island and south of SFO and north of San Rafael is dead to me. I exist in a small box lined with pillows and beer.

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 16, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I share your attitude

But the valley is where the races are, so I make the trek to middle America…

"Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs."

by jsallee00 on Apr 17, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The valley?

Eldoroado Park circuit race series bub. That’s Long Beach to you, and the source of some of the best racing in SoCal, Wednesdays all winter – pros, 1s and 2 s all the way down to cat V demolition derby.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

True,

Highway 5 is an interstate freeway. Highway 80, too.

Also, America says Ventura Highway, not the Ventura freeway.

I know I started this, but shouldn’t we be discussing bikeway vernacular here, instead. Maybe they do in the low countries?

by M. Anatole on Apr 16, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I may add...(get me started why don't you)

   When we use the “definite article” THE before the aforementioned freeway number, it clears up a lot of potential ambiguity that phasiology would otherwise create. For example, if you called your pharmacist because the prescribed dosage had you believing that the walls were whispering to you in Japanese, and the pharmacist, in an effort to provide you with directions to the store, said, “No problem at all sir, dont worry, just take 5 to 10 all the way into Santa Monica until you reach the Pacific Coast Highway,etc……”. Needless to say, odds are that before you got to the pharmacy, you’d be the cause of a SIG-ALERT on the Golden State Fwy. If the article “the” is to be dropped, then one must add an object noun following the number. For example, “just take 5 fwy to 10 fwy…etc” But in fairness, although less ambiguous, it sounds rather Cro-Magnun, or perhaps a bit like Tarzan might speak when giving directions to his jungle friends.
  What I really find to be the debacle of this issue however, is the fact that freeways in any given stretch can have up to three different names. For example, the Long Beach Freeway is only the Long Beach Freeway when traveling southbound. It’s the Pasadena Freeway if you are traveling northbound while south of the 105. Its otherwise best called the 710 in either direction. Worst of all, it was never completed as it was designed, and although the entrance ramps to the 710 N still say “Pasadena”, it actually stops many miles from Pasadena….I guess it was easier for CalTrans to abandon the construction than it was to fix the signs. Anyway, it really is a lot for all of the pretentious, aspiring actors and rock stars to grasp. I think a working knowledge of the local fwys should be incorporated into the written portion of the DMV class “C” test.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Allow me to add.. (had to get me started didn't you)

   When we use the “definite article” THE before the aforementioned freeway number, it clears up a lot of potential ambiguity that phasiology would otherwise create. For example, if you called your pharmacist because the prescribed dosage had you believing that the walls were whispering to you in Japanese, and the pharmacist, in an effort to provide you with directions to the store, said, “No problem at all sir, dont worry, just take 5 to 10 all the way into Santa Monica until you reach the Pacific Coast Highway,etc……”. Needless to say, odds are that before you got to the pharmacy, you’d be the cause of a SIG-ALERT on the Golden State Fwy. If the article “the” is to be dropped, then one must add an object noun following the number. For example, “just take 5 fwy to 10 fwy…etc” But in fairness, although less ambiguous, it sounds rather Cro-Magnun, or perhaps a bit like Tarzan might speak when giving directions to his jungle friends.
  What I really find to be the debacle of this issue however, is the fact that freeways in any given stretch can have up to three different names. For example, the Long Beach Freeway is only the Long Beach Freeway when traveling southbound. It’s the Pasadena Freeway if you are traveling northbound while south of the 105. Its otherwise best called the 710 in either direction. Worst of all, it was never completed as it was designed, and although the entrance ramps to the 710 N still say “Pasadena”, it actually stops many miles from Pasadena….I guess it was easier for CalTrans to abandon the construction than it was to fix the signs. Anyway, it really is a lot for all of the pretentious, aspiring actors and rock stars to grasp. I think a working knowledge of the local fwys should be incorporated into the written portion of the DMV class “C” test.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was so good

that you should have posted it thrice

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 17, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since the demise of my laptop last week

I’m resigned to using this 8 year old iMac. Still getting the hang of this dinosaur (it’s been teaching me a new appreciation for the virtue that is patience), thanks for bearing with me.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have a problem

with tried and tested technology?

by Monty. on Apr 18, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

That was beautiful.

And all this freeway crap is great until some dumbass flips a large vehicle across the two northbound lanes when I’m south of my destination. Fuck.

The surf sucked too.

by Jen See on Apr 17, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adding

The flipping and blocking leads to another California ritual:

Getting out of the car and wandering around when stuck in a monumental traffic jam on the freeway. I think this needs a name, but I can’t think of one just now. Maybe after the wine.

by Jen See on Apr 17, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about a "freeway walkabout"?

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 18, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Roadkill Preview"?

Honestly, you Californians do the dumbest things at times. I still can’t figure your species out.

"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."

by Drew Davis on Apr 19, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 19, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

follow up question

can it be a freeway and have a toll?

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Apr 19, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 19, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

that would be… wait for it… a toll road.

by Jen See on Apr 19, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

from wikipedia

consequently, the term freeway is sometimes used to refer to a toll-free road12 as opposed to its original meaning34 – in which the component “free” implies freedom from traffic interference rather than “at no cost” – still used in other countries and in parts of the U.S.

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Apr 19, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liars

Those wiki people, like, they’re reliable? ;-)

by Jen See on Apr 19, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're just living in the past

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Apr 20, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

i didn't know it was a norcal vs. socal thing

i thought it was just a california thing.

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Apr 16, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

 we can probably agree that it’s a California thing to discuss freeway nomenclature.

by M. Anatole on Apr 16, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, the things that pass our time

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Apr 16, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys want to hear my theory about why clowns are scary?

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 16, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it the same theory as mine?

Because you NEVER know when they’ll come to life for no reason.

Perhaps you can summarize it better, Jimbo. I wouldn’t say I’m scared of clowns (i.e. circus variety or kids’ balloon animal artists, etc); but there’s something about clown dolls…i just don’t know. Here’s a good source for some clown fear research.

by swells on Apr 16, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Apr 16, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the big shoes

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 16, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

how so?

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Apr 16, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear a pack of Chihauhuas were involved

a pound and a half of butter and some chocolate coated macadamias.

by Monty. on Apr 16, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like a party

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on Apr 16, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or the emotional instability of those things

One minute, big smile….next thing you know, BAM!! pouting and crying like a little baby. No warning. Unstable. Definitely bad drivers.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And. . . .

the fact that by definition, they are emotionally unstable wrecks. One minute, BIG SMILE! Next thing you know, WHAM! Pouting and crying like a little baby – no warning. Oh yeah, and they’re bad drivers.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally

And, to discuss all the possible ways to get from one place to another. Really, you take the 405? I always take the 5 to the 136. It’s waaay better than the 405.

I hate my car.

by Jen See on Apr 16, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like driving in California

Because Jimbo does all of it and he plays TBL on the in-car DVD player. And Dan complains about hipsters. And Mark explains all things cable.

"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."

by Drew Davis on Apr 16, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

beyond my years, some would say

"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."

by Drew Davis on Apr 16, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

13

Both my maturity level and my favorite number.

"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."

by Drew Davis on Apr 19, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

palmdale... first thing that comes to mind is that in the movie volcano, one of the earthquake's was centered in palmdale...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 15, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBqqKNl8ito

Goin’ back home
To the Village of the Sun
Out in back of Palmdale
Where the turkey farmers run, I done
Made up my mind
And I know I’m gonna go to Sun
Village, good God I hope the
Wind don’t blow

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 15, 2010 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Zappa did a song about Palmdale?

Far out man

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 15, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has realized that imaginary guitar solos exist only in the realm of the imaginary

and ultimately who gives a…

I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it

by plinytheelder on Apr 15, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only two cool things about that part of Cali

Joshua trees, cuz they’re funky. And the aqueduct thingy, because really, shipping water across the Mojave is a bit absurd.

by Jen See on Apr 15, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

We've got them by the throat, Zoe

Close one valve and the whole southern half of the state turns browner.

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 16, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I dunno about that.

Turning half the state browner? That would freak out the folks up north, too.

by Sui Juris on Apr 16, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

We actually don’t use much, if any, state water here. It all comes in from local reservoirs.

by Jen See on Apr 17, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

eww....you drink from the reservoir?

Personally, I’m still bathing in Gerolsteiner – I get it delivered in 55 gal drums. Feels fantastic, nothing like it.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 18, 2010 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I didn't say we drink the stuff

Just about everyone – and I do mean, everyone – here uses bottled water of one sort or another. Tons of minerals in the tap water. It’s… crunchy.

by Jen See on Apr 19, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goodness.

Bottled water’s practically reached social pariah stage here. We don’t have drinking water at work & have to apologize profoundly to visitors for the watercooler these days.

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Apr 19, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

At the Shack we fill re-usable bottles. Not as enviro as tap water, natch. But man, if you even tasted the stuff here, you’d understand.

But yes, bottled water in small plastic bottles is bad thing. I try never to buy them.

by Jen See on Apr 19, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I grew up with an arteisan well and the water could not have been sweeter

And luckily my mom still lives there, just 8 short miles away.

"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."

by Drew Davis on Apr 19, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

lovely

You generally have good water in New England anyway, from what I’ve heard and experienced.

by Jen See on Apr 19, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ja

It’s all a bit zany.

by Jen See on Apr 16, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a former resident of Pasadena,

I mourn that you’ll be robbed of the chance to visit the Norton Simon, the Gamble House and the Tournament HQ gardens among Pasadena’s many other lovely attractions. But since I’m not likely to make it out for the race, whatever is fine.

by Katiek on Apr 15, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

You're a fan of Pasadena, Marx?

Hey Katiek, speaking of the Gamble House I met a guy who got to live in that amazing structure while he was an architecture student at USC. Said it was really, really cool.

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 15, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's very cool

And technically, I lived in So Pas, home of Gus’s bbq and all around much funner (I’m sure that’s a word somewhere) place, but most people have never heard of So Pas. Pllus, I don’t think it has any tourist attractions or claims to fame other than the fact the guy who played Urkel on tv went to So Pas high school.

by Katiek on Apr 15, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Gus' BBQ

Don’t forget the Rialto theater

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 15, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah yes, the Rialto

so much more character than the multi-plex.

I liked the small town atmosphere in So Pas. A friend of mine had to go to the police station to get fingerprints taken for a high level security clearance for a job at the White House. He offered to show the woman taking his fingerprints his id, and she sweetly replied “that won’t be necessary, you told me who you are”

by Katiek on Apr 15, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

Would the public tours stay for dinner?

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 15, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised that you didn't include the Huntington Library amongst Pasadena's offerings?

It is in Pasadena, right? At least I thought it was. Or maybe its San Marino? Same diff. As for the Gamble House, I’d
 never heard of it, but just got off the phone with a docent staff member. I’m taking my girlfriend tomorrow and if it’s all it appears to be, it’ll be a perfect daytime outing destination when my Mom comes out for a few days in late May. Thanks a lot :)

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 15, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

I’ve never actually been inside the Gamble House so I’m jealous. And yes, the Huntington Library is in San Marino technically, but the city limits around there are lines on a map and the occasional city limits sign on the curb. Only the residents know, and care, what is where. The Huntington Library is super cool. Last time I was there, which was a long time ago now, I was admiring all the marquee books on display, the Gutenberg Bible, and the Audubon Book of Birds, etc, but when I noticed that in the modern fiction display, between A Catcher in the Rye and some other similar classics, that some subversive librarian had snuck in a first edition hardcover copy of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, that was when I really learned to appreciate that place.

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 15, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right back at ya ("nice")

It’s the subtle flashes of genius (Hunter S. Thompson in an otherwise stuffy, classical setting) that keeps me sane down here. Impressive observation you made there.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Gamble House is a work of art, both interior and exterior.

Went on a tour with a museum studies class in college – eons ago. Have fun tomorrow.

by Veloki on Apr 15, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the Huntington, particularly the gardens

but it is San Marino. Also a big fan of the LA County Arboretum if your Mom is into botanical gardens.

by Katiek on Apr 15, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool, I've seen signs for it somewhere

Is it similar to the Huntington Library’s bot. garden? I took this girl there on a first date once, she was a hard-core “vegan”. I was thrilled with the irony of touring the “Carnivorous Plants” exhibit with her….she was so totally confused, friggin’ funny.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's right near the Santa Anita racetrack

It’s like the Huntington botanical gardens except somehow it seems more people oriented and less “pristine” – they’re both lovely. I don’t know if they’re still there, (it’s been years since I lived in CA) but they used to have these peacocks that would run around the place creating sort of a fun racket.

by Katiek on Apr 17, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's still there

In my home town, Arcadia, California. The peacocks are still there and so is the Queen Ann Cottage, made famous as Mr. Roarke’s house in Fantasy Island complete with the bell tower that Tattoo would ring the bell. When I was in high school, sneaking in at night and climbing up onto the roof and ringing the bell and yelling “Da Plane! Da Plane!” and then escaping without getting caught was a rite of passage.

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 18, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an L.A. resident and card carrying member

of the Angeles Crest Motorcycle Gang (yeah man, like we got leather vests and patches in the works too)….ok, seriously though all bullshit aside, this road kicks ass. Problem is, for all its beauty, it’s a bit rolling rather than truly punishing. Nothing too steep really (mostly 7% max), and a lot of the descents carry you over the following incline for the most part. I realize that 12K ft. of climbing sounds pretty rude (the ruder the better imho), its really just the sum of dozens and dozens of small numbers. I think its friggin awesome that they connected to the Big Bear section, because the section leading to Wrightwood has been closed since a landslide screwed it up a few years back. They built a brand new bridge that circumvents the slide area though, supposedly the 2nd largest of its type in Cali. – haven’t seen it yet.
   The only thing more awesome than riding it by road bike (I always feel so sorry for those poor folks out there on department store mt. bikes, slugging it out for 60 miles on pavement, i.e. “well they said there’d be mountains up here, and it IS a mtn bike!?!?”) is tearing up The Crest on a sport bike (racing motorcycle). Its highly policed however, but law enforcement has adopted a very…Darwanistic (word?) approach that I find as amusing as I do fair: When 2 or more riders pass a speed trap significantly exceeding the posted limit, the BMW mounted officer will take chase and attempt to ride at the back of the group for a bit. This encourages the pursued riders to up the pace. Eventually either somebody crashes or he just picks the slowest rider from the back and sites him/her for everything he can dream up. Its like a cheetah taking down the sick, elderly, weak or young gazelle – natural selection at its best.
   Anyway, if its like anything in the past editions of the race, they’ll have the road closed down early in the a.m., which should provide for plenty of opportunity for real fans to camp out and make a claim on a piece of roadside real estate. Like last year at palomar mt. (ATOC) I’ll be making full use of the only vehicle immune to road closures, blocks, and detours – my GSX-R 750. (my offer is still good CycleGirl!) I’ve yet to find a better way to see a race (I open to any invitations to see how helicopter viewing stacks up though).

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 15, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Hm

I wonder how many tickets Dan has gotten there?

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 15, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love it! The transitive property in action!!

OUCH! Thats a very sophisticated and paradoxical method of insult…indirect AND to the point, all the while maintaining an air of innocence. Seriously though, from the clues I’ve noticed here and at his website, it sounds like he’s at least a developed rider…maybe I’ll see him up there in May.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 15, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's OK

he still looks terrific.

"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 15, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you really want to impress Dan

then start dropping MotoGP references. The dude will melt like butter.

"Do you think we are a bunch a girls?...Go and ride some cobbles and you’ll definately know that we don’t discuss perfume and shaving cream." - Dom

by Jimbo... on Apr 15, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just call him

The Doctor.

"Woof, woof, woof! That's my other dog imitation."

by Drew Davis on Apr 16, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm.....and you thought those clown shoes were big to fill...

If he’s being called “The Doctor”, then what’s next? Calling Chris the “Messiah”?

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any other Motor Cycle Riders here?

hey i ride a CBR600RR for recreation. i also comute with a 125cc honda CG when it doesnt rain.

If I wanted to get shit small wins, I'd race shit small races (Cavendish on Greipel)

by singhstax on Apr 17, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

F2? 3?

My first was an ’87 Hurricane (CBR600F), then I switched to GSXRs. Where do you ride?

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

After checking out your profile page, allow me to

retract my last query. Considering the fact that you reside in another hemisphere (SW), and one I’ve yet to travel to, it seems as ostentatious as it is patronizing for me to honestly ask you “where do you ride”. . .

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 17, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the benefit of other PdC members, I ask . . .

by “Motor Cycle Riders”, do you mean those that own a machine which most people would call a motorcycle, if it were in running condition? Or do you mean people who actually experience being propelled by a two wheel machine of substantial horsepower on a regular basis?

by Sui Juris on Apr 17, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, I think I see where this is going....

is this the part where you wow me with the claims of your legs producing “substantial horsepower” that propels your two wheeled “machine” on a regular basis? Its all good bro, if you commute by bicycle out of necessity it’s nothing to be ashamed of. Hang in there.

"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber

by Koppenberg34 on Apr 18, 2010 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

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