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Amstel Gold Race ............ LIVE

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No volcanic ashcloud over the interwebs so you have no excuse not to watch the greatest race in Holland. Lots of little(and not so little) climbs, winding narrow roads and a desperate-to-win Rabobank team. Does it get better than that?

Live video at 14:15 CEST (08:15 AM US eastern, 22:15 AEST)

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Bah!

I would have been first but I’m on a train and I lost signal. So there. Seriously though, really looking forward to this one!

by Albertina on Apr 18, 2010 4:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Will probably miss most of it due to work

My pick today: Filippo Pozzato, Dark (dark) horse: Benoit Vaugrenard

by Jens on Apr 18, 2010 4:28 AM EDT reply actions  

And my top 12 over @ CF.com

1. GAVAZZI Francesco
2. GESINK Robert
3. GILBERT Philippe .
4. HOOGERLAND Johnny
5. IGLINSKIY Maxim
6. IVANOV Serguei
7. KROON Karsten
8. MARTENS Paul
9. NIBALI Vincenzo
10. NUYENS Nick
11. SCHLECK Andy
12. SCHLECK Frank

by Frinking on Apr 18, 2010 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

yo, peeps. so, will there be live race video at the official website? or just pre- and postrace?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 4:41 AM EDT reply actions  

ES ticker:

Thankfully, Dutch air traffic control have grated helicopters permission to cover the race today, so we will have television pictures as normal.

by Bruce Suomi on Apr 18, 2010 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

okay, evidently i worded that wrong. the text blurb that comes up (after i disable my firewall) is something about the video not being available until monday, the 19th.

unless there was something wrong with the google translation.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

good morning

To my friends across the pond.

by Mr Van P on Apr 18, 2010 4:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why thank you

It is a lovely morning. Going for a ride with a friend later, planning to wear shorts for the first time this year.

by tedvdw on Apr 18, 2010 5:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 deg and

Raining here. Good day to glue my tubies on the rims.

by Mr Van P on Apr 18, 2010 5:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

group away with 50 sec lead

Rafael Valls (Footon-Servetto) Staff Scheirlnckx (Omega Pharma Lotto), Peter Wrolich (Milram), Sebastien Delfosse (Crédit Agricole), Thierry Hupond (Skil-Shimano), Steven Van Vooren (Topsport Flanders), Arnoud Van Green (Vacansoleil)

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Time machine race?

Credit Agricole??

Fabian Cancellara walks into a bar. "I'd like Tom Boonen on the rocks...make it a double."

by 4estru on Apr 18, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morning everyone :)

I’m already impatient for live video, that’s what happens when you should be doing uni work right..

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 5:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I had to impose an exile

Lots and lots of uni work going on, but I can’t resist the Ardennes!

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shush ;)

There are still Spaniards in it for me :p

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deep breath... build a bridge ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

:( Nope

There is Imanol though

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is? :D

Awww! Yay. Odds are massively against my Caisse boys today though give it’s just him, Acosta and Lopez :/

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know

too bad Lulu can’t be here. i am not happy.

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

I really fancied him for today with the form he’s in at the minute… :(

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Tour de Sarthe is no AGR..

Don;t think he would be a threat here

by Frinking on Apr 18, 2010 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah your right...

LuLu has no shot at all today.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hehe, sorry, couldn't resist

To be fair I think it probably is too punchy for him. He likes to climb at his own pace (doesn’t like constant changes in the speed on a climb) and prefers longer climbs where he can set his own tempo whereas this race is usually about the acceleration and the punchier riders. Still, you never know..

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was thinking he lacked punch...

but then when you have Valverde on the same team. SO maybe next year he can have a shot.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

although we don’t really know what will happen next year, do we?

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

It might be nice one year if instead of going all out early in the year he maybe held back a little (skipped things like Tour of Med or Circuit Cycliste etc) and gave it a real go in a GT. But then I’d miss seeing him at some of the smaller races and it might not pay off…

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey

good to see you back!

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hi!

Nice to be back, hoping I will be able to from now. Should definitely be around for most of the Giro and then everything else afterwards :D

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

From Koen de Kort

Alcohol control for all the team cars and buses... See something new every time.
Roadside alcohol test for all team cars & buses.

by tedvdw on Apr 18, 2010 5:19 AM EDT reply actions  

all the occupants? or just the drivers?

and, is this a particular issue with the vehicles?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drivers, of course

Issue? I don’t understand. What, the police doesn’t do alcohol tests where you are?

by tedvdw on Apr 18, 2010 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I must admit I'm wondering the same thing..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

they do spot checks. i just wonder if there's a particular issue with the drivers of the team cars, vehicles.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I know

Sometimes there are incidental checks, sometimes 100% checks (every car/driver gets pulled aside, a “trap”) and this seems to be one of the latter. Of course, it is also a high-visibility job this time, sort of a publicity stunt.

by tedvdw on Apr 18, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha ;)

Hopefully they just wait till tonight when they’re not driving.

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

You needn't worry

It’s not like it’s the same people from from the Dutch corner on Alpe d’Huez. :)

by OctaBech on Apr 18, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or any Belgian cyclingfans

within a 10 mile radius of a race-course on their home soil.

by Palm Pro Cycling on Apr 18, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

so, jens, are we gonna have live threads for turkey and cyl? cause cyl is already underway and past the 52km point

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:29 AM EDT reply actions  

oh, and cyl today is expected btwn 14.30-15.00 (or in about 3-3.5 hours). cheers.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, nvm

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll never say this again... but you're adorable;)

marshmallow on the inside I’d say..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, only if you're certain animals. people, not so much.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

TBH... I can't imagine ever saying the word for people OR animals..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

which word? "adorable" or "marshmallow"?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well either I suspect, but 'adorable' specifically...

I’m capable of saying ‘I like marshmallows’…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

only mashmallow creme and peanut butter sandwiches... fluffernutters. otherwise, marshmallow just way too sweet for me.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you've put me off altogether now...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll stick to my wine ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Peppermint Peeps in hot chocolate.

That is a worthy use of marshmallow.

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is a Peep? Our lollies are different :(

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

a peep is a marshmallow candy with a sugary outside usually in shapes like

a duck, bunny or the peppermint peeps come in star shape I believe…They are good in limited quantities

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love marshmallows...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Originally, marshmallow chicks that were only available at Easter.

They’ve since branched out to other holidays, and make star-shaped peppermint-flavored ones for Christmas.

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL! thanks...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

A little frightening aren't they?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

"to end"... btwn that time. ya know, when amstel sorta goes live.

after that, a certain spaniard better start travel plans for belgium. and another certain spaniard better already be on his way. grumble grumble.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's a long way to drive.....

hopefully they can get there in reasonable time.

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

No frontpage threads today

Go ahead and do fanposts those who feel like it.

by Jens on Apr 18, 2010 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

so, if anyone's interested in the final stages of CYL or PTOT, i've posted a combined fanshot for both

http://www.podiumcafe.com/2010/4/18/1428923/cyl-and-ptot-final-stage-live

video for these races start at 14.00 cest (or about 45 mins from now).

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well since it is my birthday today and it is Amstel Gold day...

I’ll be doing a bunch of hills today on my ride later this morning, 20 hills for 20 years.

My darkhorse pick for the top 10 is Anthony Roux. Why? Because he shares my birthday and is on my VDS plus is in good form after 4th in Paris-Camembert and Sarthe overall

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 5:30 AM EDT reply actions  

He's mine as well... I always feel better when I find I share a rider with you..

And happy birthday.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also Iglinsky's birthday!

Or so I heard..

And congratulations!

by Frinking on Apr 18, 2010 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy birthday!

Hope it’s a good race for you

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad påsk!

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 18, 2010 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

happy birthday my friend

If I wanted to get shit small wins, I'd race shit small races (Cavendish on Greipel)

by singhstax on Apr 18, 2010 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

happy birthday

Have a Leffe Buin on me.

by Mr Van P on Apr 18, 2010 6:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Only have a Leffe blond in the fridge...

guess I have to settle =]

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm actually out of beer

Yikes, how did that happen?

Need to ride at some point, but both my road bikes are clean and it’s sure to be sloppy out there. I need to return to Flanders for some nice dry weather.. : -)

by Mr Van P on Apr 18, 2010 6:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Oh my..

Why do you know that?!
Buitenhof it is.. Where our government seat is called Binnenhof.. Indeed a program about politic.. But it’s boring as hell.. Even for my interested mind

by Frinking on Apr 18, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

But.. You knew it probably..

Because they didn’t laugh and tried to look very serious all

by Frinking on Apr 18, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah all I heard was political once

and then I turned down the volume all the way

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

More politics?

With all the general election stuff going on here, I was hoping to avoid politics for a day :P

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read that last night and that was one of the best pieces I have ever read about cycling...

…apart from the lovely reporting on the Podium Cafe.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

More likely because it's Kimmage

The Times really isn’t that great a newspaper – pretty tabloidy these days

by thebongolian on Apr 18, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't really care about what paper it is...Murdoch-hater anyways.

Kimmage has gotten a bit better over the years. He was way too bitter in Rough Ride for my liking but his stuff from the last few years has been good.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a great newspaper - ditto the Guardian these days

The last Guardian piece was Richard Moore (Sky’s cycling man also) being very very mischievous and probably printing his last quote from Cavendish in a long time.

by andrewp on Apr 18, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's why they've had two Cav pieces in two weeks?

the last one – pace andrewp was Anna Kessel’s . I’m not sure she knows much about cycling but it was interesting all the same

"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK

by civetta on Apr 18, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul Kimmage..

is he the guy who “isn’t worth the chair that he is sitting on”?

by Holdenmate on Apr 18, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

irish ex-pro racer who “pissed in the soup” by writing a revealing book called “Rough Ride”, nowadays a sportswriter.

by Jens on Apr 18, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, an award-winning sportswriter no less.

I’ve enjoyed several of his articles.
To be fair he could probably (if quoted correctly) have chosen a less provocative description of HWWNBN though.

by Holdenmate on Apr 18, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

But isn't that half the fun?

Glad to see you here :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

After my brief hiatus abroad I have come to the realisation..

..that needless provocation is bad. Bad for digestion, bad for your heart, bad for your soul, and potentially damaging to an alabaster face. The scars on my falls tell a telling story..
Glad to see you too :)

by Holdenmate on Apr 18, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alabaster skin... I thought only Donna from 'The West Wing' had that :)

don’t stop being witty though please…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted to ask many, but I'm trying to hide my glee...

Did you really go abroad, or was that metaphorical?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

More of an elaborate wind-up really with an extended multii-layered background story

But upon revision I have decided not to go to that place today. It’s just too cramped in there. :) Sorry.

by Holdenmate on Apr 18, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

No problem at all..

I considered emailing you, but I thought that might be creepy. Just glad you’re back.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

That was an amazing interview. Hats off to Paul Kimmage

by Sarah Connolly on Apr 18, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leukemans doubts Rabobank is strong enough to control the race today..

Muahah haven’t he seen the line-up?
Ten Dam, Tankink, Langeveld, Martens, Nuyens, Gesink, Freire and Boom….

by Frinking on Apr 18, 2010 7:09 AM EDT reply actions  

NOS ticker thing on their site says

Vanaf 13.50 uur gaat de NOS op tv én op deze site voorbeschouwen met Michael Boogerd en Nico Verhoeven.

Think it means goes live in under 10 minutes

by andrewp on Apr 18, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like they are all ready partying out by the Keutenberg

Guess Dutch kids won’t pass up on that chance

Twas from Karl Vannieuwkerke’s, one of the Sporza men, facebook page.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 7:41 AM EDT reply actions  

so, is the unrestricted live site currently showing commercials?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 7:50 AM EDT reply actions  

tnx. whoo-hoo. a recordable feed (no capture required and i don't need to steal hubby's new machine).

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boogerd in the studio

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm blinded i tell ya

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Boogerd has to go tanning

to be that dark

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

meanwhile, in spain, cyl is 20km from the finish

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah they have kept a pretty similar design...that was Gerrie Knetemann who won over Verhoeven.

But Skil was a beast of a team back then because Kelly was with them and he was in his prime.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're worse than Edvald

 Damned kids, get off my lawn!

by Jens on Apr 18, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't push them away, Jens! You should school them instead.

Knowledge paired with benovelence should make an excellent teacher out you. I’m sure Frinky would be happy to share a class with Edvald.

by Holdenmate on Apr 18, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I pushed for the "No norwegians"-rule

Forget I ever posted a response to you. I’m sorry if this offended you. I just thought we could avoid getting into a 700 post semantics discussion every other time you made a post.

by Jens on Apr 18, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Party pooper!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this irony or did I offend you in some way?

Is there a problem? Please explain. Why are you irrate? I’d hate to go into semantics with you but I feel I have to explain: The spelling lesson part is because I obviously need one (benovelence instead of benevolence). The original comment was a follow-up to your joke (was it not a joke?). Since I clearly rub you the wrong way I will refrain from commenting on your posts from now on unless you urge me to respond.

by Holdenmate on Apr 18, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was a joking...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I trust your judgement in these matters..

(irony alarm) .. I’d rather have it straight from the horse’s mouth. (idiomatic – I am in no way implying that Jens is a horse.) :)

by Holdenmate on Apr 18, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

A mythical forest creature from Sweden?

These things surely do not exist?

"To therefore answer your basic question what color socks should I wear, I issue the bold statement wear white shoes." - King of Style

by omnevelnihil on Apr 18, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

i need a reason to watch tennis?

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 18, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

When Amstel Gold is on.

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

not for me!
Rafa!!!

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I second the yes

Men on bikes! :(

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get the Rafa thing

I normally love Spaniards but…

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?!

Oooh no. I love him….

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. Sorry.

Besides, all my support has to go to long-suffering domestiques today ;)

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

not to worry

we can share the love later on….

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's a rafa?

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

she's gonna not like you if you're kidding

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll survive.

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

rafa

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 18, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't need to open it

to know that’d be the one from liverpool.

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

It could have been Rafa Valls

Who is in the AGR break.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, yes

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 18, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, thanks.

Everyone has different tastes, I guess.

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

and our swedish friend loves this one.

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not the Liverpudlian here

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 18, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

now now

why do you hate Fernando Torres?

by rbjhan on Apr 18, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have nothing against him

Well, I do if he scores against Stoke.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 18, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Video is live btw

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Actual coverage.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where please?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

the amstel site itself feed is nonrestricted

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too buffery for me.

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same... I'm struggling with feeds tonight...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also buffery.

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dont laugh but

Try it in IE – has been seamless in that for me

by andrewp on Apr 18, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on Safari and I have nothing... trying hard not to throw something.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I never have problems with the little races...

The link you and Andrew posted for me is buffering badly, although it’s the best i’ve had, so thank you.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tried it. Still buffering a lot for me.

Might be my computer. Maybe I’ll reboot and try again.

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. I hate to say it, but misery loves company.

I’m glad I’m not the only one.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Try

this—best I’ve found so far, for me.

If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm

by majope on Apr 18, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

We would love it too...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

weather channel's question this am: what airport wouldn't you mind be stuck at?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Changi..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or Osaka..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 18, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Ochowicz says Frank Schleck already crashed hard
12:55pm Frank Schleck crashes. 4 Saxo Riders stop to help. 4km to first feed zone. Lokked like he landed hard.

http://twitter.com/jimochowicz

by ZoeRochelle on Apr 18, 2010 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm home! How far to go?

I need to go and eat the Sunday lunch my Mother has so lovingly cooked…

by Albertina on Apr 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

100k there about

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, a Mum's cooking :D

Enjoy, the boys don’t seem to be rushing into anything right now so you’re not missing much

Venga Caisse d'Epargne!

by Helsy33 on Apr 18, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

uh Oh...Pineau is down for Q/S

He is looking quite slow getting back going

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

hey, majope, quick Q: how many placings for the final gc for the CYL for vds? any other jerseys?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

tnx

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 18, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

tmi

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 18, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the 20th climb of the day...11 left after this.

Some ungodly long name-weg

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

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