La Flèche Wallonne: Formula Change?
In no race do I speak as certainly of future strategy as I do in regards to La Flèche Wallonne. Everybody knows how the race unfolds, right? Lots of attacks, lots of regroupings, and a brutal bunch sprint of sorts up the Mur de Huy to decide the final. 'Twas the case last year. And sorta in 2008 (moderate-sized group). And in 2007. When the race has broken up the culprit has usually been the Côte d'Ahin, positioned in the last dozen km and forcing the riders to stretch out the effort over its 2.3km slopes. I can't find records before 2000 but the Côte d'Ahin has been in the race every year as the penultimate climb, close enough to the line (10-14km) to make a difference.
Not anymore:
- Km 67.0 - Mur de Huy (1er passage) - 1.3 km de montée à 9.3 %
- Km 106.0 - Côte de Peu d'Eau - 2.7 km de montée à 3.9 %
- Km 112.0 - Côte de Haut-Bois - 1.6 km de montée à 4.8 %
- Km 137.0 - Côte de Groynne - 2.0 km de montée à 3.5 %
- Km 143.0 - Côte de Bohisseau - 1.3 km de montée à 7.6 %
- Km 146.0 - Côte de Bousalle - 1.7 km de montée à 4.9 %
- Km 157.0 - Côte d'Ahin - 2.3 km de montée à 6.5 %
- Km 168.0 - Mur de Huy (2ème passage) - 1.3 km de montée à 9.3 %
- Km 187.0 - Côte d'Ereffe - 2.1 km de montée à 5.9 %
- Km 198.0 - HUY (Mur de Huy) - 1.3 km de montée à 9.3 %
Only one climb, the Côte d'Ereffe, in the last 30km beisdes the finishing Mur, positioned roughly where you might expect to find the Ahin. How big a change is this? It's hard to project with much certainty til we see a race run over this route, but let's try to pick through a few factors.
Cote d'Ereffe vs. Cote d'Ahin: If anything, the Côte d'Ereffe looks slightly easier, at least on paper. Compare them side by side. The two aren't meaningfully different in the first 1.5km: brutish beasts holding steady in the 8% neighborhood. The difference is that the Ereffe lets off the gas at that point, while the Ahin takes a brief pause before forcing the riders to kick out another 700 meters in the 6-7% range. This may be too fine a distinction for the stars of cycling to notice, but then again maybe someone uses this to get a gap. Or not, this year.
Rapid-Fire Assault: Previously the Côte d'Ahin capped off a rather unkind stretch where the riders got tossed around by the Ardennes like popcorn. Take the 2009 course -- prior to the Ahin at 184km, there was this lovely stretch:
- Km 151.0 - Côte de Thon - 1.0 km de montée à 8.5 %
- Km 159.0 - Côte de Bonneville - 0.9 km de montée à 9.7 %
- Km 170.5 - Côte de Bohisseau - 1.3 km de montée à 7.6 %
- Km 173.5 - Côte de Bousalle - 1.7 km de montée à 4.9 %
My knees ache just reading those average grades. Suffice to say that coming to the Ahin, the pack was pretty well spent. And that's just the prelude to the Mur. In 2010, however, the hard spell is packed into kms 137-168, late enough to be felt but not likely in the strategic phase of the race.
So where is the race won? My instant reaction was that with so few major climbs the peloton is even more sure to end up at the foot of the Mur de Huy intact. But is this true? Sure, there will be teams (Caisse d'Epargne, for example; Omega Pharma, for another) who will work to set up the hill sprint finale, but everyone else might find opportunities to attack that didn't used to exist, to the benefit of the race. One idea: the second passage of the Mur de Huy, which is now 30km from the line, not too far for a really ambitious effort or at least to force an interesting selection. Another idea: it's the Ardennes, rarely ever flat, so like Amstel Gold you're never in a bad place to hit the gas. By taking out some of the predictable attack places, it's possible the organizers have actually made the race less predictable, not more. ASO, the organizers, are possibly the most sophisticated race organizers ever, so it bears watching. In past Tours (or Giros etc.) when the race has been ridden over the hardest routes, the tactics have often shrunk to a bare minimum as human limitations come more and more into play. If in fact this is an easier Flèche Wallonne -- and it's a mid-week race, so even that's relative -- it just might be more fun.
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The Mur almost neutralises the rest of race
Anyone without fresh legs dies on it’s slopes
I love the slow motion sprint up the Mur
That back-and-forth between Kirchen and Evans (as Evans started to come back at him) a prime example.
Bear in mind also that when I say ‘slow motion’, I mean ‘an unfathomably fast ascent of a devilish slope that makes me grimace just to watch’. You know what I mean.
He has some chance but I don't think he will focus on this too much and try to focus more on LBL...
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 20, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Questions.
I thought Sir Lance was doing this race. Anyone heard anything? Bert is on the startlist. Did he make it in from Spain? Where the hell is Leeeeenoos? Gerdemann has been MIA? Is he injured, or is he saving himself for a top 30 placing in Le Tour? Ditto SamSan.
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Lance announced scrapping the Ardennes right after Flanders
Leeeeenoos is coming back from bronchitis and will not do Fléche but aims to do LBL and will captain in the Giro. Bert is in Belgium and will be riding.
I think that is a good move by Leeenos...
Wegmann looked much better in Amstel in his first race back so LBL won’t be a total failure for Milram. I am curious about what the Giro holds for him though since his climbing is all right so he might be able to get a stage win.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 20, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I thought Lance cancelled Amstel, but had still planned on Fleche and LBL. Oh well, no reason to expect he’ll start targeting any Classics at this point in his career. Same old song and dance.
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by The Team Chef on Apr 20, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Lance was impressive at Flanders,
and that’s what makes it so damn frustrating as a fan of cycling history. I’m convinced he could have won any Monument, but I just don’t think he cared. Yes, I did say any Monument, including PR. I truly believe he was that good.
I don’t ever remember a situation in which he clearly stated "I am targeting a win in _______ (fill in the blank for any single day race). I’m sure he would have liked an LBL win on his palmares, but I don’t think he looks at his career as somehow incomplete without a Monument victory.
Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s hard to look at it any other way given his ongoing disdain for these events. Did he ever take the start in a single Lombardia? Once, just once, I would have loved to have seen him go full gas, and well prepared, for a spring or fall Classics campaign (I’m talking post ’98 Lance here).
All the legends gave the Monuments their due respect, and vied for victory. Lance will always be a notch down on the totem pole of all time greats for this attitude (at least in my book). Talent wise, I’d put him up there with the likes of Merckx, Hinault, Coppi, Bartali, and Anquetil, but his palmares will never justify such comparisons.
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by The Team Chef on Apr 20, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Post-98 Armstrong tried very hard to win Amstel Gold Race a few times, at least.
Finished 2nd twice.
He tried
I remember him going all out for LBL in 2003. Am sure that wasn’t the only time. As he got older, particularly after his scare in the 2003 Tour, I would imagine he got more conservative in his attitude. Remember those insurance policies he had? Lance’s financial prospects and career generally made it so he really couldn’t lose the Tour. So I respect his choices.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, to a point.
Maybe I’m being just a sentimental sap, pining away for the good old days, but I just wish the Monuments had received a little better treatment at the hands of the corporate juggernaut known as Lance Armstrong. Why couldn’t the brand, and its namesake, have honored cycling by contributing to its legend and lore outside of just the Tour de France. I respect his choices, especially during his Tour run, but really felt he could have chased other objectives a year or two prior to his first retirement.
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by The Team Chef on Apr 20, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Bah
American cycling. I don’t know his early years well, maybe he was free to chase after whatever. But the Tour-is-the-only-race attitude didn’t start in 1999. It was similar for LeMond too.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
adding
at least LeMond came from mixed traditions (French teams, etc.) and wound up placing value on the classics too. But the US media was all about the Tour then.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Andy Hampsten said that when Armstrong first came up, his first thought was: this guy can win any one-day race in the world if he puts his mind to it. So you’re in good company! (At the time Hampsten thought Armstrong was too big for stage races – recovery slower with extra mass, something like that – of course this was pre-cancer Armstrong.)
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Apr 20, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
But still after the Flanders finish, it really begs the question, 'Where's Lance?'
Whatever the stated reasons, and there went any – Camp Armstrong definitely ruled out doing these longer races because of some idea that these races and the type of training would interrupt his TDF preparation, even two weeks of it. This is the concept of periodization of training taken to the farthest level. They are counting backwards in days from the TDF, and planning a perfect year for Lance.
Or maybe not, and he’s just resting up to focus on winning the Tour of California.
The Flanders finish was an awesome bellweather for any veteran rider. He was supposed to finish 67th, but he rode up, and really good news for his Tour chances.
TDF Plan B is already wrapped up – try to stay with Boonen and Cancellara longer than Alberto can in the cobbles stage. Now he knows he can do it, and a certain amount of mojo comes with that.
Lance is no longer good looking – he is old and skinny and his head looks like a shrunken cannibal head. He is giving himself his best chance in the Tour, it really seams.
As far as not being there for the classics, later in his career he became a marked man who couldn’t sprint. Bad combo.
It is kinda unfair to rip on Lance in the Fleche Wallone thread – he is a past winner.
by rubesANdbabes on Apr 20, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone doubt that Lance coulda made the Amstel finale?
Vorganov? De Waele? Pretty easy to project Lance getting there, too…
by rubesANdbabes on Apr 20, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I think he has to choose carefully at his age, and they need to do the ATOC pretty hard.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions

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