Race Alert! Giro del Trentino
by Jen See on Apr 19, 2010 10:54 PM EDT
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Oh look, it's a bike race! It's in Italy, Trentino to be exact. There will be mountains. And, it starts tomorrow, which is Tuesday. (Yes, it's still Monday on my planet.)
The official site is conveniently in Italian. Well, I did say it was a stage race in Italy, didn't I? But don't be sad. You really don't need to know Italian to read a race website. You just need to know a few magic words. Most important? Tappe. This magic word takes you to the stage list. There are maps, what the Italians call planimetria. And also, stage profiles, which the Italians call altimetria. So easy, this learning Italian. You can also become a fan of the Giro del Trentino on Facebook. The Italians call this... Facebook.
The Giro del Trentino is short and sweet with only four stages. But it includes two mountain top finishes at San Martino di Castozza and the steep Alpe di Pampeago. The Alpe di Pampeago, which reaches a maximum gradient of 16%, provides the grand finale for the race. The third stage has a flat finish, but the riders must climb the Passo Rolle and a couple other odds and ends before they get there. Alessandro Petacchi is apparently riding this race for Lampre-Vini Farnese. I'm not quite sure why, honestly. This, my friends, is a race for the climbers. The Italians call them scalatores.
Guess who's racing the Giro del Trentino? That's right, Riccardo Riccò will be riding this week's race. No? That doesn't get you excited? Okay, me neither. What does get me excited is that Gilberto Simoni will ride the Giro del Trentino in preparation for his final Giro d'Italia. Simoni recently signed with Lampre to race for the team through the end of this year's Giro. It's the end of a lengthy career for Simoni. Certainly, we will have to send him off with suitable celebrations at the end of next month. But not yet. First, there is bike racing.
Names you should know in this race, in addition to Simoni and Riccò: Ivan Basso (does not have a dog), Franco Pellizotti (has big hair), Alexandre Vinokourov (who?), Paolo Tiralongo (climby dude, used to race for Lampre, looks like Cunego, only different), Stefano Garzelli (yes, he raced with Pantani), José Rujano (the third best climber in the world), Damiano Caruso (neo-pro, brilliant as an U23), Michael Rasmussen (for reals?), and Emmanuele Sella. Have a look at the whole list, if you like.
Tomorrow, the race starts with a 12.5 kilometer time trial. The course runs between Riva del Garda and Torbola sul Garda. It is remarkable for its flatness.
On the awesomeness scale, I'd give this race around a 8.0. (Recall that the awesomeness scale goes to 11.) An entertaining cast of characters will take the start. Also, the course is difficult. That was an understatement, by the way, it's more like stupid hard. Last, but maybe more importantly, this race has the scenery going on. Honestly, they could run a tricycle race for six year olds through Trentino and it would be worth tracking down the photos or finding some viddy. Mountainous and vineyard bedecked, Trentino is beautiful country.
Steephill has some more infos in English, and I expect will have photos daily. So roll on by there, and have a look-see.
Update! Alexandre Vinokourov won the opening crono and rides tomorrow as race leader. Stefano Garzelli finished second at 15 seconds, while Matteo Mataguti finished third at 18. Want more results? Head over to the official site for today's stage results.
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gibo & ivan in the same race, yeah!
someone pls get him on twitter asap.
by rbjhan on Apr 19, 2010 11:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I am interested in Vino.
What;s his form and stuff. Is he someone to take seriously at the Giro? Questions I have.
You are probably right.
Gotta be careful in building up that form and that advanced age. Maybe we’ll see more at LBL.
Ricco gonna be there? Luv that guy!
plus he’s been winning like mad, hasn’t he?
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
Poor guy
But kudos to him for getting someone to actually kiss that. Rasmussen… not that attractive.Almost scary looking.
by Douglas Ansel on Apr 20, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
frinking...he's using it on me... it's O'Grady related ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Whaaaat? No...
Surely not. I mean, Frinking can’t possibly just shun the entire nation, can he? I thought that he understood about Stuey… that for Aussie cycling fans, he occupies the same spot that the Captain of the Baggy Greens does for cricket fans (ranked somewhere in between God and the Prime Minister).
Hey Frinking!? You’re not shunning Seahorse, are you?
He may have just added you to the list...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oh no he hasn't.
He wouldn’t add me to any ‘shunning list’ (right, Frinking?). Frinking and I are brothers in arms, fighting the good fight for you-know-who. Besides, he’d miss arguing with me and putting shit on me ;-)
Well good luck with that
because I would have said much the same ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
God...no...please...
Not again :-(.
Frinking?! Where are you, dude? Could you clear this one up, please? Are we being shunned here – yes or no? (you can go back to shunning us after you reply, if need be)
name that wasn't mentioned that you should know: Pryzemslaw Niemic...
He will mostly likely podium if not have a great shot at winning here since his team Miche can’t start the GT’s. He climbs like a bat outta hell and can TT decently.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
*Niemiec, which means 'German' in Polish no less xD
He’s a decent pick having placed 2nd and 3rd lately in Settimana Lombarda and Coppi e Bartali + he enjoyed some success in the last edition of the race. I’ll be rooting for him.
Just checked the start list - some more Polish flavour
Basso as a defending champion, meaning there’s Szmyd to bring the pain on climbs. Also Huzarski who has a small winning streak as of late and would be my hope for stage 3 win. Less excited for Polish Mróz Active Jet Team which seems there mostly to net some mileage and experience and does not deploy any outstanding climbers. Rutkiewicz is there but I’m not sure about his form. Grzdylu might be much better informed in that regard.
scheduled coverage on rai sport piu
tuesday, 20 april, 15.45-16.15
wednesday, 21 april, 00.00-00.30 (early thursday am)
thursday, 22 april, 18.25-18.55
friday, 23 april, 18.20-18.50
http://www.rai.it/dl/portale/GuidaProgrammi.html
video here, http://www.worldlivetv.org/
select channel on the left, requires windows media player
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
sometimes the channel's streaming. sometimes it's not.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
pretty much. but, per usual, rai sport piu's schedule is subject to change
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
basso! jennifer grey! (vds is looking at you kids)
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Fun fun fun! Please can the feed work today? Please?
And please can The Big Haired One do something? He so needs to justify his cost.
Since Iast saw the startlist
more names from Androni Giocattoli are on it, like Scarponi, Serpa, Jackson Rodriguez. Pozzovivo apparently also riding for. It’s almost like the Giro dress rehearsal, but missing Evans and Marzio Bruseghin (maybe others).
My money's on Ricco for the overall. He's sufficiently bloody-minded.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I would imagine those without a Giro invite will really want this race.
Like Ricco, Rujano, Niemiec. In this sort of a field especially.
Postponed till the wildcards are confirmed..
After that Miche is willing to talk about a Giro transfer
ISD was saying something along the lines that there will be no deal
and they will not release him before May 3 which is the last date where teams can make changes so they can get a rider into the Giro team.
Rujano’s agent is still saying it 90% there and they will be out of the contract and into Footon.
I don’t think it will happen though but one possible idea is that he could transfer to Footon for the Vuelta.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 20, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
There aren't likely to be any changes to the team selection now, are there?
I thought Lampre might get pulled when that investigation was revealed, but if it hasn’t happened yet, and they’re bringing Cunego, Petacchi and Simoni, so they’ll be fine.
You seem to have the time ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oooh... and BEAM at people!
Every time you mention being on the enquiry desk, I have such an amusing mental image…
For the record, I do not have glasses perched on the end of my nose.
I do not wear a grey cardigan. I do not wear my hair in a bun. But yes, my beaming skills are second to none.
And if you were a good librarian would it matter if you did?
We’d love you anyway ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Hugging you back...
I was originally trained as a librarian… but in my case, I realised as much as I loved books and research, I loved teaching more :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And much much later I also trained as a copy editor
and still I came back to teaching. I just can’t help it…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Nothing better than lessons in race relations from a middle class white American lawyer
… it might even be funny if on a thread that is 90% American if I had the right of reply. There’s racism in Australia… it is still a problem. i keep acknowledging it, but I’m tired of you pointinig it out. Look in your own backyard or maybe just say nothing. But you’ve visited Oz… so you’re the expert.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yeah, someone screwed up
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you Albertina.
In the comments directly below there was a nurse who said something like , the patient can have no red meat, but fish and children are OK. Just a mistake.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
Everything else has been...
and it didn’t entirely open. My apologies to Sui if I misinterpreted, but had it been the first time I’ve done race relations with Sui I wouldn’t have made the mistake. Am I upset? Yes…. it’s about a history of comments in this vein. Do I have a sense of humour? Apparently not.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
say
spectacular troll. The Seahorse, she is so over-the-top defensive I thought it was a joke. But apparently not, so I’ll just cut bait on this one now. Probably.
And perhaps past experience should have told you
that I don’t get your humour about Australia… but I don’t want to be a troll and i’m embarrassed that I went with my emotions instead of sucking it up.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I can always talk about books... nicely...
i’m sorry Sui… when we talk about that book, maybe you’ll see I’m not a troll…and that i have a sense of humour. The only trolls ever named and shamed here: billdozer and me.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Actually
Sigh. Let me be completely clear here:
1) I was saying that my posting that link to you was a “spectacular troll” on my part. I was not calling you a troll.
2) I’m sorry that I completely misjudged your sense of humour on the issue. There’s a genuine defensiveness there that I apparently did not get, so while the occasional needle was all in fun to me, it was not to you, and I’m sorry about that.
3) don’t any of you other twits think you’re ever going to get an apology like this out of me.
4) Shut the fuck up, Donny.
i'm more of a twat than a twit
at least according to my friends/teachers throughout the years. antwat has a nice ring to it. i assume your apology’s in the mail.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
holding my breath ;)
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Thank you... and you know I'm sorry too I hope...
I live back on the coast now, but I spent 20 years working with Aboriginal communities, so I’m oversensitive and I let that get the better of me.
On the other, I normally (I think) have no issues about the obvious jokes about Oz. i think I’ve been disappointed that knowing you’ve been here, you have little good to say about it…and i wish it had been a better experience for you.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I can't begin to recall
what I might have said that implied I had anything less than a brilliant time in Oz (well, Townsville was kind of a shithole, but I don’t think I’m alone in that opinion). I quite enjoyed Sydney (even my solo Day After City2Surf run), chilled with the Blue Mountains vistas in front of me, got in some excellent MTB riding near Manly, reclaimed a bit of youth on Maggie Island, recovered in splendorous solitude on Mission Beach, stumbled onto a cassowary at Etty Bay, and took in QLD from a long long drive on the Bruce Highway to Cairns. It is amongst my most personally satisfying trips ever.
Townsville and its rednecks looms large in my mind...
although I have every sympathy…
I’m pleased you know about our history, including the shameful bits, but because when you’re joking about Oz, it’s usually about those things, it feels unequal. I’ve also visited the States and loved it, but also like you, my knowledge of its history is quite extensive… and yet I don’t think I would feel that joking to you here about the things that appall me would be appropriate. I have no doubt that in a pub we’d agree on nearly everything, especially politics.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I live
in a place that just proclaimed Confederate History Month, celebrating the bravery of Confederate troops, and oops, forgot about the whole slavery thing. About all I can do is laugh.
When I'm at Aboriginal funerals
on the other hand, I can’t laugh. So I should stop now, because i sound like a sanctimonious prig.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
sui you had a good time in Australia?
How’d you deal with the overwhelming racism?
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Apr 20, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
it was tough.
Really really tough. Luckily I was able to find someone to dress me up in blackface (strange someone still knows how to do this, right?), and I survived.
Now that's a beautiful word :)
I think I had a ‘Lizzie’ moment
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
U lost your tail?
Don’t worry, it will grow back…
You're waiting for the movie aren't you?
if you’re going that (disgraceful) path, use the BBC series ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Just trying to make a lizard joke..
Already seen the movie. I keep picturing Donald Sutherlands side burns when I read the book, arguably a bad thing..
Think of his voice... he could read me a phone book
That said, I got your lizard joke and if you’re going to do celluloid, then it has to be BBC. But the book is better than either ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
"It has to be - BBC"
Are you their slogan consultant by any chance?
Never...
I’m a ‘bonnet tragic’ – and BBc do the best period dramas by far and P and P with Colin Firth is at the top of the tree :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You name it, I've seen it...
‘Bonnet tragic’, I tell you. Perhaps we could convert Holden?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Hm..
This is a convertible. I am not remotely similiar.
You're not silver?
I love the backdrop ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
More of a silverback with heart of gold?
Or was that coal?
A gorilla with a heart of gold?
Hmmm
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So I've posted it already downthread
… but you guys clearly need it up here, as well…
Everybody pause for a minute and take a look at this, please. Caption contest, anyone?
And then maybe you can all tell me what the weather was like there today…
Thanks.. this is why I miss you..
I’m going to get a hanky…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
dancing with the stars audition rejects?
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
that's making me hungry
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
More information please...
Perhaps we could have a thread for the worst podium prize..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I'll say! I wonder what happens to the more bizarre prizes..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
what a bunch of crap
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
yummy
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 20, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to try a red banana..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I've predicted he'll win...
perhaps with enough red bananas that won’t happen?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Perhaps if you stick them in his tailpipe?
(Eddy Murphy reference, from way back when he was still funny)
I got the mangoes and the bananas. What are the red things?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Really?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Funniest perhaps... what happened to the poor little fella?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And if Millar won a pig behading it would be easy...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Or vampire beheading.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
That was what set me on that path...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I'd like a full throated 'Scots wa he' with that..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I'd go for one of the great clan mottoes, like
“Sons of the hounds, come here and get meat!”
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
Just don't tell me it's the Campbells..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Camerons, I think.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
Well that's okay then...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
My favourrite is
“Touch not. the Cat without a glove”
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia
by bought with blood on Apr 20, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, definitely, yes
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 20, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I tried not to overthink what happened 'there'
But each time I scroll down that picture I ask myself repeatedly. A fickle thing. Cycling shorts, that is.
Sacrificing a pig is one way to ensure the favor of the cycling gods.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
And yet is BBox holding the pig...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
BBox has 9 wins this season so far.
Unfortunately, they only started with a dozen pigs.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
Oh dear... and Tommy's in my team...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Is this not it?
Surely it’ll do, anyway… I’m here, you’re here, Seahorse is in the vicinity… pull up a chair, get comfy. Read any good books lately? Any home renovation projects on the go?
You are definitely in holiday mode :)
So have you read any good books ltely? I’d ask runitout or omne, but they’re not here… nd holden, like you only puts in guest appearances… I did want umwolverine to get the blue hand basin though :(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Very strange... I think the 'a' is going on my keyboard...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
maybe if the bathroom was a little larger...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I knew that would be your call to arms :)
I want a book night until there’s news fro Trentino… can anyone indulge me? Where’s yeehoo?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
News from Trentino?
I’ve spent one night in Trento. It was hot as hell. And not in a good way.
But maybe you asked for some other news ;)
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
But what is hot for a Swede?
Aside from Hemingway, what other American authors do you like? (We’re not doing weather ’til we have to).
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Above 30, at least
Steinbeck, Roth and Didion. But beside what I read for work and my main interests, it’s not more than handful novels each year. And then it’s mostly easily digested murder mysteries.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I have :)
Most of them, I believe.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
So are we talking a norwegian author?
My favourite crime writer is Reginald Hill, but I’m not particularly discriminating…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Thanks! I'll definitely track down some titles.
Do you have a favourite?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You are so receptive. I love the way you listen to what we all say about books...
I would have loved teaching you ….
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I've read them all...
but I must admit I liked the first one best…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Can't say I liked any of them
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
And yet you read all three...
I gave up masochism ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
OK, it wasn't that bad
And I wanted to know how it ended. But I read them kind of late, and had high expectations since his books were/are all the rage here in Sweden.
Masochism is more suited for when I finished a Camilla Läckberg book (don’t think you want to know who she is).
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I don't... but I'm sure I have equivelants...
Far From the Madding Crowd at 13 put me off Hardy for years… I still haven’t entirely recovered.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I haven't read the last two
Looks like I will have to find a Norwegian version of Hodejegerne, and the latest will be released in Sweden next month.
Arne Dahl (real name Jan Arnald) is the best Swedish crime writer.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't laugh please... but is he a descendant of Roald?
Okay, you can laugh…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No, his real name isn't Dahl :)
He used a pseudonym, since he’s also a critic at the largest morning paper and used his real name for other kinds of books.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Hodejegerne is an entertaining little book.
As u know it’s not about Harry Hole, but a very immoral headhunter :)
Have you read Snømannen? I’m currently reading his latest (Panserhjerte which for some mysterious reason is called The leopard in some places. Jo is up to old and new tricks :)
I think I've read most of the Nesbö's
except the one that takes place in Australia, by strange coincidence. 3x as good as Stieg Larsson.
:) The Australia book is the first one in the series.
In my opinion the first two books are not up to par with the rest. The others have more twists and turns and are arguably better written. I concur when it comes to Larsson, though he was by no means a bad writer.
Okay... I'm even more intrigued..
Did either of you feel that larsson’s third in the trilogy didn’t match the first?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And really, that says it all...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
First one had a mystery plot and was excellent
the other two are below average (and predictable) action-novels. Nesbö is always well plotted and with good twists. + Well written.
I will watch the movies and let that be it then.
Saves me some time! Hooray!
Save even more time and avoid the movies as well
they suck a tremendous amount of ass. At least the TV version.
Read! You know you want to...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You understand that the teacher in me is tearing her hair out now..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Please tell me you know the answer to that...
I’m sure you do. I’m obviously having a bad night…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Holdenmate's saved time will be used reading Hamsun
of course. Or one of the other norwegian greats. Like Fleksnes.
Fleksnes is decidedly bigger than Hamsun in Sweden, no? :)
Marve is great.
Exactly.. I love mysteries, not so great on action/thrillers..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Snömannen was the second book of his that I read
And the one that really got me hooked.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
My beach reading is almost inevitably murder mysteries...
They’re entertaining and they don’t mind sand…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
If you like Scandanavian crime
then in addition to Jo Nesbo I also suggest Asa Larsson’s books. Set in northern Sweden, female protagonist. Good stuff.
Thanks... I love adding to my list of must reads..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Well, I'm about to start reading
The Climb Up to Hell by Jack Olsen…
Oh… and I discovered today that one of my workmates follows Spanish soccer, too… of course, by a cruel twist of fate, he just has to be a Barça fan, sigh.
Would a warm bowl of milk keep you here?
I’m worried Lou is going to tell me about another gruesome book…. The Climb Up to Hell. I’ll have nightmares…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It might. :)
Add an injection of a strong sedative every two hours and you have the possibility of docility.
No way then... a docile Holden would be no fun, although I'm sure you have a lovely purr ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yes... it's the light, I love the light...
but perhaps it’s also the cumulative effect of a job, where you must like everyone. I learned a long time ago that seeing the positives in people brought a lot more satisfaction than ‘bahing’ at the world.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Not even close...
Inglorious Basterds or Remains of the Day… not that I hate films that construct teachers as heroic ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ha! IB or RotD.. They are not exactly similar, are they..
But that was possibly the point :D JFTR: I like them both.
No.. I like lots of things...
Kazuo Ishiguro is one of my favourite authors, and normally I hate the violence in Tarrantino, but there are always exceptions. So what are your favourites?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ha! I've actually read one of his books.
Never let me go. Interesting and quite different to the books I normally read.
I agree. I don't normally like Dystopian fiction
but this was good. remains of the day though is better,
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
i caught the flick
I very rarely read the book after seeing the movie version. For curricular reasons I am currently making an exception for Jane Austen…
Jane Austen... my long time friend...
but i must admit teaching her novels to boys has never been a really fun thing to do…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So far (10 pages into P & P)..
it is tolerable as long as I keep looking for irony and mockery..
I may not have been an expert on Keats, but P and P is another story
…and Zoerochelle and majope are also huge fans…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That could come in handy.
Any thoughts on the literary style of that book?
Well, yes I do... but that may really blow up the thread...
And in what sense? ‘Style’ is huge in a po-mo world..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
They have failed to define it.
Maybe I will have to do that for myself. Distinctive and special are adjectives they attribute to the style of the book. And they want me to tell them why…
We can do that easily :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Listen you two..this is so not fair... ganging up on the old person. Not on...
Where’s the respect?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oh that's right!... yikes, that's at 4:45am for me
No way do I get up before 5am for that.
I’ll be cheering on Inter Milan in my sleep :-)
I'm just not THAT much of a masochist, yeah? ;-)
(Actually, I doubt I’d be watching that game if it were being broadcast right this minute on free-to-air TV here.)
I’ll learn the outcome sometime tomorrow morning, after breakfast and coffee… and several deep breaths…
BTW – it’s ‘soccer’, not ‘football’ – the ball is the wrong shape, and they don’t use their hands ;-). This is ‘football’.
I'm fine...oh, you mean Holden?
This disappearing ‘a’ means I might have to buy an iPad
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I had to go back to put in the recalcitrant vowel...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Well, I have a certain fondness for you and Lou...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
She is definitely one... my favourite really
Larrikin personified… and she always makes me smile. She also has balls. Who else here would be the queen of the Vino fan club?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oh vino..
What can I say? Hm.. Nothing. :)
Actually, it's not a live thread,
and Lou, Frinky and i have heard it all before. We’re impervious and you know we’re unlikely to be pissed off… unless you diss Kazakhstan ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I am merely joking. :)
I feel no inclination at all to beat that old carpet. And how could I diss Kazakhstan, the home of the great Vladimir Smirnov? :)
I was joking too, but here would have been relatively benign...
Perhaps it’s Lou and me who are the recalcitrants…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Using a word like recalcitrant is a strong indicator...
.. that you are right..
I am often right... if only everyone would realise it :(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
My father's name is Allen... Al
and in our family, that’s his song. He’s 81, but his first big gig was Simon and Garfunkel :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Ha... he has a real soft spot for singer/songwriters
but this may be a bridge too far :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I should have that the use of electronics would put you and your father off :D
Lyrics by a man named Poe, though. The raven..
Got that bit... he would too
but electronics never says ‘music’ to me…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Have you taken the key off and checked for obstructions?
(sorry if I’m pointing out the obvious here…)
I didn't even think of it... it's a laptop, so the keys sit flush..
Amazingly I’m sure, I do have the tools.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You haven't gone yet have you?
It’s been long time since we exploded a thread…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No no, still here. Wilting a bit, but still here :-)
Re the laptop… I’m pretty sure that it’s the same principle – a snap-on fitting (anyone…?). Maybe depress a nearby key, prise the culprit up a bit, and have a good squint with the aid of a torch first…
A daytime project...so I can rush it to the doctor's if it needs resuscitating...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
VDS trivia... Holden and Frinking occupy the same ranking at the moment...
Will Trentino prove decisive? Frinking has Vino…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I've waited a long time to comment..
Vino… What can I say? Hm.. Nothing :D
Similarly my VdS for Trentino is also a big nothing I fear… Bertagnolli maybe?
I have Smyzd... and that may be all, but you know me,
I’ll be cheering for Vino. This race could also be called ‘The Redemption Tour’..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Interest level in the race isn't high...
or perhaps it’s that this has turned into a book thread?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Even umwolverine hasn't shown an interest... it's grim.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You people are absolutely butchering those Polish names today. Starting to think its a ploy
Even Albertina who you’d expect to have some schooling in spelling those consonant laden names.
I'm sure I copied someone...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Don't tell us... show us. How else can we learn?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
If you make me spell those cross-riding brothers last name
I am going to kill myself. Theo Bos, that’s a good name. Bo Bos would be even better.
I bet you googled it, didn't you? xD
I might give you a lecture on pronounciation and an introduction to Polish antroponomastics(now that’s a difficult word) with regards to riders in peloton when Tour of Poland cloes in.
Vanthourenhout ;)
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh no. How embarrassing.
I never can remember the differences between their names and Vantornhout…aaargh!
It was a good try...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
'Never mind'... sys the sympathetic teacher...
‘Eventually you’ll get it’. (Imagine nails in palms of clenched fists and tight, yet sympathetic smile).
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
But for Sm... d, can someone please write it correctly here please?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I got the Schmidt part... it's not much of a stretch,
but thanks for the spelling.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Aha! We have someone here in need of conversion, I see...
Now where’s my snow-leopard stole?
He's taken a number of body blows for the opposition....
and he’s alarmingly polite to me about Klodi… on the other hand, he my own a leopard skin stole…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
This may be where she pretends to be asleep..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Hilarious.
But not as hilarious as this.
That photo has had me in tears laughing… literally… twice. It’s the facial expressions that really make that picture for me, I think.
Sarabande?
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Apr 20, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking more like
some kind of improvised ‘interpretative dance’.
God almightly, my diaphragm’s gonna start cramping soon. I actually think that maybe I should not look at that picture ever again… or perhaps just only when I’ve had a very bad day, or haven’t laughed in a while…
speaking of dicco
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Thanks! Imagine that, race related post.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
Now this is an intelligent use of 'bah'..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And yet you still have nothing to say about the race...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
pictures say 1,000 words.
What could I possibly add?
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
Well played..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Actually, after I spent Sunday afternoon following a race on Twitter
And with some added pictures and videos, I almost think a race could be covered by a collection of people. It would be fun to have a group covering a race at different points along the route (nothing sexual there) with tweets, photos and even video. They should try that in California this year but I fear those Californians are too self absorbed.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
But there are perhaps enough people who are so enamoured
with new technologies that they’d love the challenge maybe?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
i'm usually pretty good with sexual innuendos
but i don’t see it in this case.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Seahorse tells me she likes a good rooting.
I just had to make the remark after I used route in a reply to her. Actually she would need to explain exactly what it means, Aussie slang term and Americans “rooting” for the home team aren’t remotely related.
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
Well i do rather... but I didn't think I would ever express it in quite that way...
Didn’t I say that our ‘rooting’ was more fun than yours? ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
thanks for the clarification
it’s google time…
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Don't bother...'fuck(ing)' is an appropriate synonym ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
that's what google said
my vocabulary has just gained a term.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
So now you see why we don't 'root' for teams...
I mean we wouldn’t want to be called ‘sluts’ ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
it sure explains the cheerleader thing
professional team rooters.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
That is bad on so many levels...
and we should stop now. I’ve already managed to behave badly tonight…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Maybe we should take a different route.
Get your kicks – Route 66
Bicycling is the nearest approximation I know to the flight of birds. Louis J. Helle, Jr.
Oh I see, there was only half an hour for today...read it wrongly!
I can’t even get the picture to load anyway
no. it was on the schedule and then didn't show on the broadcast
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 20, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So, anyone know what's going on in Trentino?
I can’t find a ticker that’s operational at all, but that might be my ineptitude…
I actually tried to check, but it's got me beat..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
There doesn't seem to be a ticker on the race website, despite Steephill telling us otherwise.
Oh well.
I know... i went to the photo stream... very pretty, but not very instructive..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Don't ask me. My binoculars aren't up to the job, sorry
I was promised Vino… I was brought in here on false pretences. Lured in, if you will. Into this den of crazy persons. But yea, though I walk through the valley…
Try the photostream at Steephill... lots of photos of Vino, but I have no idea how he raced.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
morning folks
And as usual I am clueless too.
Since this is a VDS Cat 6 race we only need the winner of each stage and, at the end, the top 5 on GC. is that too much to ask? I think not.
Good luck with that... and umwolverine isn't here..
you know how good she is at this.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
apologies all. i fell asleep. not that i could have provided any other info.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 20, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
shocking, isn't it?
blame hubby. he gave me his cold. btwn the cold meds and the pain killers, i’ve had a hard time staying awake today.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
just fine, thank you. amazing what muscles you use when taking a shower, when you haven't been able to stand in one for quite a while (like 1.5 years).
slowly getting back into the swing of things.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
no, not at all
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
we'll always have each other
and paris
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
That's all we are to you isn't it?
Mindless intellience gathering drones to feed your endless apetite for VDS results.
Are we not human? Have we not emotions, dreams and aspirations?
My ears are bleeding.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Well it's good to have someone who can bring connection to bear!
CN seem blissfully unaware that this race is even happening.
twitter has zilch
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
by Vlaanderen90 on Apr 20, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes! GHold on... I'm going to the thread where I made the prediction!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And where is Lou? She was waiting for this...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Unofficial results:
1. Vinokourov
2. Garzelli
3. Montaguti – 18"
4. Scarponi – 23’
8. Ricco – 30"
13. Basso – 34"
From flickr link; This pic is (unintenionally) so surreal and open to interpretation.
Makes me think of Almodovar’s ‘Talk to her’ more abstract scenes.
+i
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
It's the total lack of contrast between fore- and background
It makes the Katyusha rider grin at a black mount of curly hair. xD
i'd be very happy with that podium prize
pigs and fruit, who could want more? (ok, just about everyone)
I remember reading an interview in Polish press about Lampre's Marcin Sapa
Before his transfer to the Italian team he thought about ditching cycling for good in favour of fruit farming(he apparently has a big apple orchard outside of Poznan).
what he said
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 20, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
no video, no ticker
307 308 comments. damn we’re good.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
And only 2 of them were mine.
Okay, 3 now. I was busy reading up on various forms of revenants. Want to know how to tell if there are vampires buried in your churchyard? You do? Okay, I’ll tell you:
First, find a boy who is judged to be too young to have lost his maidenhead [sic—I also love that this must be judged, because you know damned well you can’t trust him to tell the truth about it]. Set him naked on the back of a coal-black stone-horse [lovely term for stallion] who has not yet covered a mare, then lead the virgin pair around the churchyard. Any grave that the horse stops at and refuses to cross, no matter how hard you whip him, contains a vampire. Dig it up and behead it, and you should be fine.
Source: Augustin Calmet, Dissertations upon the apparitions of angels, dæmons, and ghosts, and concerning the vampires of Hungary, Bohemia, Moravia, and Silesia, 1759
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
Aren't there too many virgins in this story for you?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
If the boy is 18 or so, it'd make a great opening scene.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
I figured that was your thrust ;)
So this will have to have been a very protected lad I’d say… the rector’s son?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
dude raised by wolves?
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
space travel!
he was born on a spaceship and just landed on earth
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
But wouldn't all the alien probing nullify the whole virgin thing?
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' - Dr. Reiner Knizia
by bought with blood on Apr 20, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
this is going way too far, but is more fun than work, so
isn’t the maidenhead more frontal? or does the term, when applied to a boy, take a more posterior meaning?
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Went off to check the OED
and it turns out that “hymen” is only the secondary meaning of “maidenhead,” which is defined as:
The state or condition of being a virgin, virginity (esp. of a young woman, occas. of a man). Also: the hymen (occas.: the vagina), esp. considered as the mark of a woman’s chastity.The “head” part originally was a suffix that mean condition or quality, and was largely replaced by “hood” (as in falsehood, knighthood, and of course maidenhood).
What about “maiden”? Turns out that was also used in the masculine in the olden days, specifically for
A man without experience of sexual intercourse, esp. by reason of abstention.So it all made a lot more sense back then than it does now.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
thanks for the update.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
i <3 etymology.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
There you go, then.
We learn so much here. Is there anything cooler than language?
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
emilia fahlin, but language is a close second.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Hard to get a boy raised by wolves to sit quietly on the back of a horse
and not try to eat it.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
Not from what I've heard about nuns.
Possibly the rector’s son, or something like that. I’m actually researching for something very different, but will definitely file this away for future exploration.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
If you base your knowledge on nunsploitation films, perhaps
‘School of the Holy Beast’ is my favourite in the genre.
What so majope can't play with the sex-starved nun trope?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And he was young and gay ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
We'll have the plot drafted within the hour..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I recently copy edited a book where horses and virgins were part of the plot...
It was very very funny and very very bad… and I’ll faint if it ever makes it to print… but the horses could be a plot element I’m sure..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Please don't... it probably explains why I'm teaching again..
Keeping a straight face while I was talking to the ‘author’ was tough though.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
good to know.
but does that apply to southeastern US vampires? cause those are the ones that really bother me.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
You might as well try it--can't hurt.
Let us know what happens.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
After years as a Buffy fan, I now understand that if they'd known this,
they would have been a lot less busy..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Sunnydale.
Xander would have worked, early in the series.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
Yep... and poor Willow was a little slow...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
But yes, major fail on Giles's part.
Can’t believe he didn’t have a copy of that book handy.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
Pathetic really...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
that seemed weird to me too
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
you're NOT going to try this with your son i hope?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Apr 20, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
THE GREAT ONE was... GREAT! YES!
What did I say? Who’s the man, then? No, really… who called it? Lou did. That’s right.
Y’all can join me here, as I bask in my awesomeness. And the Awesomeness of The Great One. In Vino Veritas indeed.
Scuse me... can you rake up my prediction earlier tonight? I was very specific :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You don't appear to be basking there, Seahorse
Nevermind, I am perfectly happy to bask in my awesomeness with or without company, LOL.
Your prediction.. ‘Ricco for the overall’…?
I'm basking! I'm stoked in fact..
I told you Vino would win the TT, but yes, my money’s on Ricco for the overall… Dis you get the stole out and do a turn around the loungeroom?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
WAAAAAAAAA-HOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s party time!!! FUCK YEAH!!!! (w/heavy southern american drawl)
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Apr 20, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent! It really is exciting, although I realise perhaps not for everyone ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And just incidentally...
… who the fuck are you people?
This has to be one of the most bizarre ‘live’ threads that I’ve seen. I mean, it was a bit strange before I stepped out there… you all just Went Critical when I left the room…
"in vino veritas"
golden!
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Hmmmm.....
Judging from the “highlights” you provided re: the start list, I cant help but wonder if this is the cast of a Cycling Celebrity Rehab benefit race rather than a legitimate UCI race. I count 8 out of 11 names there as formerly convicted offenders. I would celebrate a Vino victory in grand style btw.
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
The Redemption Song Handicap... forget Giro del Trentino ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Complete Results
are now posted on the race’s official website.
by Chief Commissaire on Apr 20, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
Ok - I clicked on that
And all i got was an advert for a pretty girl showering in a bikini (well, I’m sure she was advertising on behalf of someone, but what they hey) and the University of Liverpool (wtf?)
all i got was a cycling website
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Scroll down just a bit for the chick in the bikini.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
much better, thanks.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
full screen, very nice.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
she's no gav
but she’ll do for a tuesday race/whateverthehellthisis thread.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
not cute enough for you?
me either, but the podium girls two comments down made up for it
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Apr 20, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What a prude....
showering in a bikini??
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Apr 20, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Vino blasted everyone
Niemiec at +1’31 and behind such a TT specialist like Szmyd, what happened there? This doesn’t bode too well for his GC chances. Bah! -dare I say
Since I have no VDS interest
I’ll be rooting for(your heard me) Piet Rooijakkers based on kickass name and nerdy look. Wait and see him on those Hors Categorie climbs later in the week XD
i'll be rooting
(for) the two ladies.
horrible joke, i know, but at least i’m trying.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Off subject and perhaps adolescent, but...
for some reason, every time I see “Chief Commissaire” here I get this friggin’ song in my head with the words “Chief Commissaire” substituting for “Der Kommissar” – it’s a tough one to get out of one’s head once it’s there too. A while back, I remember wondering where in the hell I’d heard that infectiously maddening hook that refused to vacate my internal mp3 player, now I know.
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Apr 20, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w4Xulsjo5I
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
by Koppenberg34 on Apr 20, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
now it’s stuck in all our heads.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
This Might Help You Forget It...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKEM2VPmvo
(How many of you remember this version?)
by Chief Commissaire on Apr 21, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
all kidding aside
falco is a badass. and that video proves it.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
You are joking, of course.
Conan! What is best in life?
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
For those who don’t know the answer.
If Cavendish was a diplomat, the third world war would have started a long time ago--Brian Holm
by majope on Apr 20, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He disappeared so sudden from collective consciousness since starting his political career
I started to wonder if he was true.
There was an old "spitting image" song....
… with the words “I met the Loch Ness Monster and he looks like Fred Astaire, at the BBC in London he’s the chief commissionaire”
It was broadcast in about 1986 and I STILL can’t get the dang thing out of my head
You mean
this song (warning – title very much from the eighties, wiki the guy named at the end and hopefully excuse it as timeous satire)
and reading the above – was reminded of spitting image’s arnie song (sorry!)
it's got a good rhythm to climb to if you ever find yourself slightly overgeared on something sorta steepish
so…if that song is your is your cadence’s metronome, its time to downshift.
"Oooh God...if there IS one, save my soul...if I HAVE one." -Eugen Weber
rescheduled for rai sport piu for 20.25 -- or in about 20 mins
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
results, minus ex dopers
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
what a funny sport we all love
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
the video's up at world cycling channel
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=worldcyclingchannel2#g/u
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
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