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Tour de Romandie Stage 3  LIVE

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Stage 3 is 23,4 km TT. We are now getting to the part of the season where we might actually start to get some real answers from the big guns in the timetrials so this should be good. 

Live video at 16:00 CEST (10:00 AM US EDT, 00:00 AUS EST)

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As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 6:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Cafe!

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

\o/

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Game, set, match!

Perfect start to a live race thread!

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Queensday everybody!

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 6:03 AM EDT reply actions  

podium!

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Queensday!

One of the best days of my life was Queensday 2004. Me and my wife were in Amsterdam, the weather was amazing, and it was the best all-day party I’ve ever been to.

"Far better than a Ricco-Rouser" - sminer

by PopUp Rolen on Apr 30, 2010 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a rainy day today

Walking around the flea market in the rain is not really nice. Felt very sorry for the people selling their stuff. Everything was getting soaking wet.

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fijne Koninginnedag!

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

never heard of him? Any info?

"Far better than a Ricco-Rouser" - sminer

by PopUp Rolen on Apr 30, 2010 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have a look at his Palmares

2008 3rd in World championship U23 RR
2009 3rd in RVV U23
and got 2 stages in Tour de Bretagne Cycliste this years.

by ravel on Apr 30, 2010 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's German

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 30, 2010 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Milram perks up their little cow ears...

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, if they still exist next year

Or have I missed a memo again?

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 30, 2010 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

They seem confident they will be

(something about offering Knaven as DS role that I can’t really remember)

by Jens on Apr 30, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what to say.....

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

First in our hearts ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

You get more with honey than vinegar ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Always..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

keep yourselves amused for at least another hour when the stage starts. 3 hours until streaming....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 6:50 AM EDT reply actions  

We always do...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Time trial again today?

What is the course like?

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:04 AM EDT reply actions  

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

So we can expect GC fireworks?

Who will win this thingy? Kreuziger?

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hope so.

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is probably old news ...

…but have just discovered that Channel 1 HD are showing daily highlights here in Aus.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 7:08 AM EDT reply actions  

OMG... I had no idea... so thank you VERY much :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check local guides

As they say, because football and other populist drivel will most likely mess with the schedules.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, I hadn't even imagined this, so I'll take what I can get.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Say hello, 4.0

1520 splendid posts right there. I can’t open it directly anymore since it grew beyond 1250 or so. Now I discovered I can enter it if I approach it through links to posts of mine in my profile page.

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

i can still open

works fine. it’s scary long tho.

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of introducing others next time around

Should be fun

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i've done it 3 times now

about time for a little change.

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

We should encourage people

to link to their contributions in the who we are thread in their profile.

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a great idea.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree... can someone print VERY clear instructions for people like me please?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly the only problem is that people who have been lurking won't be able to contribute?

I think it’s a fun idea, but if one of the objectives is to get people to ‘de-lurk’ then we need a solution…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The main objective is to fill people in about PdC member trivia

So they can fit right in.

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you can delurk by introducing someone who has interested you as a lurker?

I like it…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who knows a good topic to keep us occupied in this live thread?

Books, beekeeping, pacific islands, Bassie and Adriaan, banana’s, food, movies?

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Ok, I'll bite

So has anybody seen any good movies lately?

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best of the year for me has been 'Inglorious Basterds'...

The German actor whose name I can never remember was stunning… and as a registered wimp, I’m not even a Tarantino fan.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I don’t really like Tarantino films either but I quite liked that film too. That German guy was great.

In the last few weeks I’ve seen:

Welcome. French film about a Kurdish Iraqi boy trying to get to England to be with his girlfriend. Quite poignant. I guess it’d be on art house release in Aus, can’t imagine they’d have it at Hoyts or Village.

Beneath Hill 60
. Aussie film about miners being called in to assist with tunneling under the trenches on the Western Front in WW1. Has a nice understated and laconic Australian-ness to the dialogue, if a little bit sentimental or jingoistic at times, but still a cracking action film based on a true story.

Control. Ian Curtis bio-pic, if you’re a Joy Division fan then you already know the ending but still worth watching as it’s gloriously shot in black and white and really watchable. I didn’t live in England in the late ’70s but I imagine this is what it was like!

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I live in North Coast NSW so I'll have to wait for the last two:(

But I’m keen to see Beneath Hill 60... Joy Division is a job for Drongo ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

North Coast NSW eh

My aunty used to live in Coffs Harbour.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I live 25 k's north of there... much more beautiful,

although the university I work at is in Coffs.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice part of the world

I would love to go back one day, I haven’t been since I was a kid.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love it...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Christoph Waltz

Fantastic performance. For mine, Melanie Laurent was also amazing and I consider it further proof of how meaningless the Oscars are that it didn’t win Best Picture (honestly they’re nearly as bad as the Logies).

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on Apr 30, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hi there! Thanks... totally agree about both awards.

You’ve got mail :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw

Thanks ;)

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on Apr 30, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or, better question... favourite film?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

then mine would be Zefferelli's 'Romeo and Juliet'

… I know, it’s a generation thing…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

English teacher here... my life has been one long school...

but R and J was gorgeous and nothing to do with school. In the last 15 years, Remains of the Day has been my favourite film… and I suspect that’s not much better for you ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had to look that one up – I would have been 11 when it came out…but it does sound good. I’ll add it to my list.

I was lucky at school, two of the texts (films) we studied were Cabaret and Breaker Morant.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I taught Cabaret, and Jack Thompson lives about 500 metres from me ;)

But yes, I am old…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jack Thompson is a national treasure!

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know... when he's in the supermarket, you can always hear that amazing voice,

no matter where you are. We love him :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're making fun of me aren't you?

When i hear the voice, i still see the young(er) man in my mind… the reality is somewhat different, but the voice is better than ever :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being 100% genuine

I think it’s awesome you shop at the same place at JT. I once saw Geoffrey Rush walking down Bourke St where I went to Uni, but it’s not exactly the same.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Caton comes to visit our man Jack...

hilarious old soaks..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s hilarious. Where is Hoges while all this is happening?

Probably in meetings with his accountant and barrister, come to think of it.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's in Byron... with Strop

Jack’s too cool for the unwashed masses of the bay…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm haunted by an Australian movie

I saw about 20-30 years ago. A school teacher goes on holiday ends up drinking a lot with a bunch of roo hunters and events occur. Any clue what the movie is?

by fancan on Apr 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brad is right...can you imagine how it haunted the 21 year old me?

I was surec that that would be my lot.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks guys

I can imagine. Saw it on late-night TV. I think it is the only movie that has stuck in my head in the way it has. Recommended by me to anyone reading this.

by fancan on Apr 30, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I ever come To Canada fancan, I'm looking you up...

I promise I’ll bring books…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have books in Canada.

and about 50 feet of full shelves at home.

by fancan on Apr 30, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was just going to bring books you might not have...

I didn’t mean to suggest even for a second that you wouldn’t have books. I remember who talks to me about books! I was thinking of a swap..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just kidding.

I’m slowly making up a list of Canadian authors/books you might be interested in.

by fancan on Apr 30, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know I'll be interested...

Aside from Attwood, i think I’m a little light on in that area.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a bit relieved...

I don’t mind her stuff, but she’s not one of my favourites..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wake in Fright

Is one of the most disturbing films I’ve ever seen. I wish we could get back to movies like that in this country.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on Apr 30, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

It still freaks me out... too close to home.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can a photographer not have an avatar?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quite easily, as it happens

I will get one, just need to think of something suitable first.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do to budget constraints

I mostly see old and not-so-great movies lately.

But it doesn’t matter because for some reason I like seeing pre-histroric Tom Hanks films like The man with the one red shoe.

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do to = due to

What we do does not define who we are. What defines us is how well we rise after we fall.

by Lopex on Apr 30, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best so far this year:

Kick Ass (red band trailer, language NSFW)

Runner up: How To Train Your Dragon

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Kick-ass!

Saw it Wednesday, still smiling.

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 30, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed!

I’ve seen it twice so far—will be three if I can drag my husband away from his work long enough to see it.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a high enough recommendation for me.

I think I know what I’m doing Sunday. :)

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on Apr 30, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

tennis!

ha, just kidding, don’t worry.

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, Cav Apologies

I have thought he would never learn how to apology

by ravel on Apr 30, 2010 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks... do you by chance have a link please?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is HTC's email. Maybe soon they will publish it

PUBLIC APOLOGY FROM CAVENDISH
 
 
 
 
30th April 2010 – Please find below an apology that Mark Cavendish wishes to be released today.

“I want to publicly apologize for the gesture I made on the finish line of the Tour de Romandie yesterday. I did want to make a statement to my critics but I realize that making a rude gesture on the finish line is not the best way to do that. I apologize to everybody watching the race and especially the kids. I am not proud of releasing the feelings in that way. I hope I can redeem myself and show my feelings and passion for cycling with some exciting results in the next couple of months rather than with gestures such as the one yesterday.”
 
 

by ravel on Apr 30, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can just hear Cav saying 'redeem', can't you?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I'd rather, 'I fucked up' but even I can't blame Cav

for the ‘preciousness’ of the PR machine.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing we are lucky

the release didn’t say “I’m a feckin’ eejit, me”

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

In real life, the kids are the last people he'd have to apologize to.

Bet they loved it.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least it didn't sound like a non-apology apology

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 30, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

There wasn't a lot of room to move there.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

So pedestrian..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

more like

HTC put some sense into him.

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good morning every one!

Sun is shining, and P. Sagan saing good by to his Yelow Jersey,( or not )

One day, one stage, one race, one tour at a time.

by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's hope not ;)

Hi there… it’s evening here.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

HI

Oh! Evening, lucky You ( that from the person who is chronically sleep deprived )

One day, one stage, one race, one tour at a time.

by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL...

Have a sleep on Australian time. We’ll let you…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can I quote you to my customers?

One day, one stage, one race, one tour at a time.

by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course... you just need to say to your customers,

’She’ll be right, mate.’

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's a good tter.

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

plenty of good tter in top 10

as it is basically the result of the prologue.

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Kreuziger

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too!

One day, one stage, one race, one tour at a time.

by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where? i musty have missed it... 10 comments doth not a thread make...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holmovka was making crazy talk...

… about looking at the GC and seeing who might win.

Banhammer, quick

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

You sploshed again!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scuse me... I don't do land!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just preventing cheese talk.

One day, one stage, one race, one tour at a time.

by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is merit in that...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll cut to the chase

Customer: Good Morning.
Owner: Good morning, Sir. Welcome to the National Cheese Emporium!
Customer: Ah, thank you, my good man.

Customer: I want to buy some cheese.

Owner: (lustily) Certainly, sir. What would you like?
Customer: Well, eh, how about a little red Leicester.
Owner: I’m, a-fraid we’re fresh out of red Leicester, sir.
Customer: Oh, never mind, how are you on Tilsit?
Owner: I’m afraid we never have that at the end of the week, sir, we get it fresh on Monday.
Customer: Tish tish. No matter. Well, stout yeoman, four ounces of Caerphilly, if you please.
Owner: Ah! It’s beeeen on order, sir, for two weeks. Was expecting it this morning.
Customer: ’T’s Not my lucky day, is it? Aah, Bel Paese?
Owner: Sorry, sir.
Customer: Red Windsor?
Owner: Normally, sir, yes. Today the van broke down.
Customer: Ah. Stilton?
Owner: Sorry.
Customer: Ementhal? Gruyere?
Owner: No.
Customer: Any Norweigan Jarlsburg, per chance.
Owner: No.
Customer: Lancashire?
Owner: No.
Customer: White Stilton?
Owner: No.
Customer: Danish Brew?
Owner: No.

And so on…

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep! I failed! There we go again!

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

But an heroic effort nevertheless... I love it.

Holdenmate will probably be here in a sec to correct you on jarlsberg… I’ll get it wrong if I try…

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was merciful

there’s another two pages where that came from…

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd love it... remeber, 'splosh' makes me snicker...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's all in the timing...

…speaking of which, I should really do some work

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please no! Good help us all!

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Customer: White Stilton?
Owner: No.
Customer: Danish Brew?
Owner: No.
Customer: Double Goucester?
Owner: (pause) No.
Customer: Cheshire?
Owner: No.
Customer: Dorset Bluveny?

und so weiter…

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pardon me saying this... but only a 'Pom' could create this riff...

I say this with some affection :)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

four poms really

the genii that make up Monty Python…

Sadly for me, its not original

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know... but we loved it... still do..

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

thought you probably did...

still doesnt beat the university of watamaloo skit for killing me laughing

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too many to count...I change my mind frequently...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Injured? Bored? Has allergy on TT?

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot graphic description of stomach ailment...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some time it is even help you to do TT faster!

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bert Grabsch the lead

(sorry)

Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.

by TheFigurehead on Apr 30, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

wrong Bert....

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can we get a full TdF with Sean Connery commentating?

That would be the best thing ever. He’s still alive isn’t he?

by Jens on Apr 30, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just a thought...

Wouldn’t it be cool if you could load his voice on your sat-nav.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dangerous! 'Drive off the cliff!'

‘Oh, okay.’

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dostoyevsky meets Beckett

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by TheFigurehead on Apr 30, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

1. Bert Grabsch (THR): 32’28"
2. Mikhail Ingatiev (KAT) 32’31"
3. Rabon (THR): 32’50"

by Grzdylu on Apr 30, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

He could be in the hot seat for long time.

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

14:50 Morabito (BMC) marks the best intermediate time, 14:15.

bici ticker

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Good morning to you :)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

the second time around, eh....

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, but it's been a while... and now I'm 'in the moment'...

Has Klodi won yet?

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's riding?

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

No... that may be the only time I ever 'get' you ;)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what will it take to win? Sub 32 minutes?

or just 15 seconds better than Bert?

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you betting on Klodi?

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always bet on Klodi, even when he's not there :)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I am on Cancelara!

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's a very good choice! they're both on my VDS team :)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lance will have something to say about that!

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zing

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does Grabsch remembers how to open Champaign?

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Has Michael Rogers started yet?

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well :(

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's on my VDS team! Lovely little fella :)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he doesn't suffer their affliction...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

They get these horrible contagious tumours on their faces, I don’t know if the scientists have solved it yet but they are working hard on it.

by clashbrad on Apr 30, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I probably shouldn't have joked about it... it's awful...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

gross

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by ant1 on Apr 30, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes... it should come with a warning...

More worrying is the fact that it threatens an entire species.

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...I shouldn't have made light of it..

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes... it seems like the HIV of the animal world.. very sad.

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

current top three

15:21 Rating:
1. Bert Grabsch (Team HTC-Columbia) 32:28
2. Steve Morabito (BMC) 32:29
3. Mikhail Ignatiev (Team Katusha) 32:31

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning - should hit 75 F here in CT! yippee!

and TGIF!

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by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Tell me about it!

And we have a bank holiday on Monday…three days off!!!! Woohoo.

by Albertina on Apr 30, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

80 in NJ already!

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

holy hotness batman!

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by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

going into the high 80s today and tomorrow, mid 90s on sunday in central va. bah, humbug. yuck.

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

but it's a wet heat...

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by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

chance of precip only 10%.... for me, wet heat is worse than dry heat... makes me bones ache

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't make my bones ache, but I hate exerting myself in the heat.

I was going to go run this afternoon, but no way if it’s really going to hit 80.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

When it hits 90 I put away the vacuum cleaner. Does that count?

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

(of course it counts)

still in the 60’s here

by yeehoo on Apr 30, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just hate housework...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

rain in ATL this weekend

bah rain (not the country)

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by ant1 on Apr 30, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

weather is fine here

but getting colder….

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

High 70's..

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would have believed you had I not lived through both systems...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would be 100% worthless if I didn't live in the age of google...

…and as it is, I am only about 40% useful with it.

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by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

That makes two of us... Jens and umwolverine have to tell me the Australian time

for every race..

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

no

i think low to mid 70’s (also guessing)

by yeehoo on Apr 30, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we know about my maths...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

I was housebound last weekend when the weather was lovely owing to a nasty cold, and now that I’m better it’s all gone wrong. The law of sod.

by Albertina on Apr 30, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

but isn't that how it always is?

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was out of the Easter weekend

Which was miserable and ended up getting a horrible cold – so while I’ll try to man up not sure it’s a good idea

by thebongolian on Apr 30, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the best idea... you have to sweat out a cold.

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm putting together a rain bike myself

it’s a great excuse to spend more money on bike stuff.

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by ant1 on Apr 30, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

you mean mudguards ;)

and yes they are though they aren’t going to do much to stop me getting wet with the rain we have predicted this weekend

by thebongolian on Apr 30, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The thought of a fender on a bike is very strange...:)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

mudguard..

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

But what does 'fender' mean in Aussie?

So we get why it would be strange to see one on a bike.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get you... a fender in my head is always American and always on a car...

I just heve never thought about it in the context of a bike. But aside from calling a car crash a ‘fender bender’, we don’t use the word.

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

True... also American..

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, okay.

I guess growing up with them it just seems logical—fenders are in the same place on both bikes and cars, and both have a protective function.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

In fact they form the same function as mudguards..

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

wheelbrows

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by ant1 on Apr 30, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice

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by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

bikesnob came up with that

but i’ll gladly take credit.

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by ant1 on Apr 30, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

by the way

bikesnob came out with a book. the funniest intro to cycling ever. i highly recommend it.

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by ant1 on Apr 30, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

o/t, so, la's expecting another kid...

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Well that will make them even..

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey, albertina, look who's sitting 4th on gc at asturias after this am stage?

Intxausti, Beñat EUS 18:26:00 +1:41

that’s his start time for the afternoon stage.

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oooo, he's jumped up a place...he was 5th overnight.

Jolly good! I will keep my fingers firmly crossed at 18:26 :-)

by Albertina on Apr 30, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

No - he's having one for each TdF victory.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on Apr 30, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...ummm... it's you =(

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

as long as the doctor doesn't call you special

you should be good

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by ant1 on Apr 30, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

as his teacher, I might call him 'special'...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's okay, I just remember...as Stuart Smalley might say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvgMIerTXl4

(only the very beginning really applies)

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by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

See... I knew you were :)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

just you

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Ho! Chees talk alert!

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by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

15:45: And who is Richie Porte?

15:35. The Euskaltel-Euskadi, Gorka Verdugo target has entered the second fastest time by far, with 32’12 “. Mark Cavendish ended with 35’34”.

15:30: The Australian Saxo Bank Richie Porte, marking the fastest time in goal with 30’54 "(45.533 km / h), 1:34 better than the runner.

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

OMG! I am stoked... I don't care if he wins, but he gets his moment in the sun. Wow...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

You'd hope a cyclist could beat a runner by more than that.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

current top 3

15:52 Rating:
1. Richie Porte (SAX) 30:54
2. Gorka Verdugo (EUS) 32:54
3. Bert Grabsch (THC) Ă  3

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by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

But can you see 'my lad' Albertina? He's on my team :)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the truth as we know it...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crikey

I was getting all pumped, and then remembered there was a hill on this course so Grabsch is actually likely to be quite slow…

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm raely 'pumped', but just at the moment, I'm having a Mendrisio moment :)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK, just saw the bit about Cav's apology up above...

Sponsors must not have been pleased with him…cause I doubt he had some “come to jesus” all by himself…

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by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually, I think he might just have

His track record seems to be to get all pumped up and fire off, and then retract with a grin.

Also, he is always hugely fired up at the end of sprints – he often says dumb things and then apologises

Also, he often apologises.
 They clearly aren’t his words, but he may haev thought “oops”

Here rests the case for the defence

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he often apologizes

sometimes he even seems sincere although not this time. He’s still mad at his critics. (#@ internet forum people – also, fucking germans, nothing ever changes … – )

by yeehoo on Apr 30, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

He may not seem sincere because they clearly aren't his words

My bet is he regrets doing it – whether that regret is on a personal or a professional level, who knows?

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm guessing he doesn't regret it for now

maybe someday if he ever really understands how it comes across to a lot of people.

by yeehoo on Apr 30, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

if there is such a day

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he regrets it at all

I think it’s part of the reason he is so dominant. He is ruthless, calculating and will do anything to win. That is one reason he is great.

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by PopUp Rolen on Apr 30, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get this...and not trying to be a prude.

Just kick everyone’s ass and leave the “F you” stuff out of it…

That’s it…

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by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we all agree that it wasn't his finest hour...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's also had what was clearly quite a traumatic personal period

The tooth thing was clearly incredibly painful and possibly a bit frightening, he’s split from his lifelong lady etc etc. And the results havent been coming

He may not be in a good place mentally and just damn angry some of the time

I like the lad, I have to confess

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

really... it doesn't show ;)

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I think his boss gave him a swift one in this case, however.

by fancan on Apr 30, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alas, the defence's case has holes in it

Mr. Cavendish knew he was going to win that sprint, and was thinking about the salute since kilometer zero. This was premeditated action, not a young star caught in the heat of the moment. Also, Mr. Cavendish’s track record of this type of behavior further proves this was premeditated. He simply has made an ass out of himself too many times to fall back on either the “young lad blowing off steam” or “sprinters are naturally aggressive” arguments. Simply put, Mr. Cavendish is an asshole.

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by PopUp Rolen on Apr 30, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's the case for the prosecution

and I can see why you say that.

Myself, as I say, I like him, but I recognise I am in a minority

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Klodi for me...

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by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

klodi's well-liked...

okay, maybe not by jens

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

That might be a slight overstatement, but I can live with it...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you aren't alone.

Cav’s an emotional guy all around—sure, he could control it better sometimes, but I like the exuberance when he’s happy enough to tolerate the bad behavior when he’s pissed off. Two sides of the same coin.

(Okay, sometimes I rather enjoy the bad behavior, too. Don’t change, Cav!)

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

He is outspoken about giving his teammates credit. Read any interviews with him and it is all “George Hincapie this, Mark Renshaw that”. Which makes the Greipel thing a bit odd.

In fact, most of the stuff this year has been significantly different in tone from previous years – which makes me thing that he is personally in not great shape (read the Grauniad interview with him recently and you may end up agreeing…)

He’s usually a chirpy chap who likes a bit of banter – possibly not at the moment…

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Greipel thing isn't new--it goes back years.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

He thinks so. Greipel disagrees.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Awesome

OK- now i really want Greipel to leave HTC so they can bash this out on the road…

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think UFC might be a bit disappointing...

these guys are only strongly build when compared to other cyclists…

in reality, it would be two skinny guys slapping at each other…

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cav's scrappy, though.

Not sure I’d bet against him.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I don’t think Stapleton backs Cav for no reason….

by ursula on Apr 30, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Cav's a bit of a prat... but I really don't think he was thinking...

he was just running on adrenaline… he fucked up… not surprising, but he’s usually sorry later. And I don’t care about his chronological age, he’s always a bit immature. Eventually, he’ll grow up.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

you hope

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fairly sure... having taught many, many Cavs..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't.

Well, part of me hopes he’ll outgrow the dating beauty queens phase, but accept that his personal life is really none of my business. But I think the world will be a less colorful place if maturity installs a filter between Cav’s brain and mouth.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm - "grow out of the dating beauty queens phase..."

Reminds me of the famous interview with George Best. He’s lying in a hotel bed, moeny from casino winnings scattered all around and an open bottle of champagne on ice, and two (count em) showgirls in the shower… first question:

“So George, where did it all go wrong?”

Priceless

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or they're singing at his funeral...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree - think he's a Wanker (to quite the british - I think)...

My personal opinion is let the legs do the talking – and his certainly can. But, don’t disrespect those paying you (since you are a peddling billboard). And certainly don’t do it if the word HIGHROAD is plastered across your chest. dumb ass…

The artist formerly known as jf(bunchofnumbers).

by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

quote - not quite

The artist formerly known as jf(bunchofnumbers).

by JustJoshinYa on Apr 30, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the thing...

… up to yesterday he has been a sponsor’s dream. And most of the things that got people riled up were actually good for the sponsors (the various gestures, the outspokenness etc)

So there is a certain thing of give a dog a bad name

That having been said – yesterday was a different order of thing and not very smart or acceptable…

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

A bit disappointed for Bert.

One day, one stage, one race, one tour at a time.

by holmovka on Apr 30, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Anton finished well

still looking for a time…

Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Apr 30, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I just tuned in

but they said he was running 2nd until he made a mistake in a corner. Can anyone tell me what happened?

Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Apr 30, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

bici has him starting 5th from last....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Curious. Maybe someone pulled out.

Anyway, here’s hoping he pulls off another TT like his one in Pais Vasco…

by Albertina on Apr 30, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hi there..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

early morning!

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh!

Saying hello around her is damn complicated!

by ursula on Apr 30, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

too much for your morning brain?

HTFU

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

But isn't that always true in your part of the world?

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well played...um, yes, kind of!

But the question is, English breakfast, Earl Grey, Lady Grey or Darjeeling?

by Albertina on Apr 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Earl Grey is a good afternoon tea.

Not sure I’ve ever had Lady Grey.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dajeeling.

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like

some assam mixed with a smidge of lapsang

by thebongolian on Apr 30, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just in time to see Menchov start.

Can’t top the Giro TT, I bet.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, no.

But we’ll always have Rome.

by ursula on Apr 30, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

'Three coins in the Fountain'... can you hear me warbling?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then your cats are yowling right about...now..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies... I try, I really do...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing as Porte is doing well, I hope not..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking in terms of drama, actually.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know... I LOVED that, but today I don't want anything more dramatic than Porte winning..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Apr 30, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

marty mcdonald/mccrossan... the other dude is julian wynn (?)

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

or, it could be julian dean

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Klaxons sound

mullet on the coure, mullet on the course.

Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Apr 30, 2010 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I like to take a moment

to apologize for criticizing Cavendish. It was never my intent to offend anyone especially the children.

- an Internet forum guy

moo

by Willj on Apr 30, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

ha ha

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

The children here appear to be utterly unoffendable

Anyway – Cav, this ’ere forum habs! you. Or at least some of us do…

by addict on Apr 30, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pto 16:29 Intermediate:
1. Brajkovic 13:21
2. Péraud 13:27
3. Porte 13:28

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

moos comes in 4th at the finish

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

currently 2nd is spilak, wyss is 3rd

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

machado screws up the finishing turn

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Menchov

takes 16 seconds out of Jani’s leading time

Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Apr 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

at the intermediate

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

aye

that’s an important detail

Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Apr 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

quite

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

menchov is 16 secs faster than jani at the intermediate

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Menchov looking good

Denny did say at Castile y Leon that he was targeting Romandie

by ursula on Apr 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

where's bruce? juicy's on course

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

A fast moving mullet

takes 6 seconds out of Menchov

at the intermediate.

Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Apr 30, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

the ex-mullet 6.7 secs faster than menchov at the intermediate

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

If This Was The Tour of the Gila...

…we would just now be getting results from Stage 2.

It took 16 hours for the results to be posted from yesterday’s stage of the race. What an embarrassment for U.S. racing (and an NRC event, no less.)

The time trial starts in less than two hours and the start times have yet to be posted.

by Chief Commissaire on Apr 30, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I remember the old days

before Ted and Ursula, we used to wait for VDS results. Now they are “real time” ;)

moo

by Willj on Apr 30, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

running that in excel....

must say, not something i want to do.

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eek.

Not good. Imagine if that were a VDS race—the men in white would have taken ursula away hours ago.

As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink

by majope on Apr 30, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

aaggghhh, footon kit

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps it is a motivational technique

for the national championship season.

Win this race, and you can wear a decent kit…

Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Apr 30, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah yes

I surely hope Cardoso keep that one!

this is easier than rbjhan i hope....

by JessicaH on Apr 30, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

jani on a 54x11

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Apr 30, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

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