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Giro d'Italia Stage 10 .... LIVE

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Stage 10 Avellino - Bitonto 230 km. Another day of the Sprinters vs. The Breakaway. Podicci goes with a sprinter and picks Fabio Sabatini.

Live video at 14:30 ?CEST (08:30 AM US EDT, 22:30 AUS EST)

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Good morning!

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 6:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning

"My clients dont care shit about romandie or mello johnny" - singhstax

by PopUp Rolen on May 18, 2010 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

mr. majope usually gets up with the kid, whose school bus leaves at 6:40. But he’s swanned off to England, so I have to wake in the cold dark predawn and I don’t even know how to use the automatic feature on the coffee pot.

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might.

Unless PdC can keep me awake today.

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morning... is your VDS team cleaning up?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

So do I, and Sastre.... on a brighter note, I have Porte :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

well done

I have Bobridge and Meyer!

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

same...

Sagan and Cance are propping up my team..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leukemans is my best

And you can stop laughing now.

I have high hopes for Gesink though.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frinking's silver tongue seduced you?

I have Klodi… so laughter is not an option.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm immune to Klodi taunts :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too good... the only comments I could make here would be lewd..

I don’t have the finesse of majope or you.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snort :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

No-one else has been! I meant to pick Sagan but somehow deleted him

My big guns are Gesink, Greipel, EBH and J-Rod.

In other words, try again next year. It’s okay – this year has been a cracker for a cycling fan anyway.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care either...

and I can’t afford to anyway.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have J-Rod too. He has been good to us.. :)

and I am hoping for big things from him in the Vuelta. I wonder if some of the pure sprinter types like Greipel and Cav may have been a little “overpriced”.

by Holdenmate on May 18, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought I should have a stable of sprinters

who consistently score points.

I realise that it was a rubbish idea. I will pick riders I like from now on. J-Rod would still have made it. I like the cut of his jib.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a sailing term... what kind of Norwegian are you?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes (I think), and yes..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too

though i do owe every one of my seven points from the giro to him. i kind of empathize with the waitress who returns to a table and finds a $.02 tip. wow, thanks.

by discolite on May 18, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

i had thought he was a smart move, as against O'Grady and Kloden

who’d be on my team, no matter what their form.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I respect the sentiment

If there were a women’s team Emma F would be on it regardless of her form.

Cycling form.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some of it has to be about fandom, especially, if like me,

your cycling knowledge is limited.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sandbagger

You already can post links and quotes… And know answer on cycling related questions!

by Frinking on May 18, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Frinky... I just think I know much less than people like you and vlaanderen...

and I’ve discovered I know more about Australian cyclists than anyone else..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid Porte! ;)

(only saying that because Mollema should wear that white jersey…. And Porte is riding sooo creepy strong.. As TT lose less than a minute on pure climber Mollema uphill? WHAAAT?)

by Frinking on May 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's because as a neo-pro he's old... and steady..

He also says that Larsson, Didier and Cooke have been amazing. He’s a good listener I think… and strong.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the man of the hour, Cadel:
Me? Lead out a sprint?-followed a strong attack in the last km that didn’t last. Goss keeps the Aussie flag flying ;o)

. I hope it’s another wonderful day at the Giro…
And good morning Majope.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning

What’s on the banned list today for conversation till the feeds start (not that I can watch them at work)?

by thebongolian on May 18, 2010 6:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Evening :-)

… um… speculation about a change in coach for Real Madrid? ’cause that topic is likely to cause Lou to have One Of Her Turns….

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

luckily

iam completely unqualified to talk about such things – so i for one won’t say anything

by thebongolian on May 18, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, I think, are the Spanish media...

… but it doesn’t BLOODY STOP THEM, NOW DOES IT MUTHAFU….. ahem, sorry

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, not even close.

It was building up to one, though… caught it early there, no need to send the men in white coats…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coverage guides on the other hand

Are always welcome

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

G'day mate

I’m all out of peanuts unfortunately and soon to be ejected from the gallery I fear.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

"'Peanuts and lollies', says the boy upstairs"?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I'm not saying much after riding to and from in the coldest

downpour of the year so far today. The casino ‘courtesy’ bus hitting the puddles next to me on the way home didn’t cheer me up much either.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Horrible... hot shower, hot food... and alcohol necessary.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

First two done.

Glass of Caol Ila Distiller’s Edition about to be poured.

Happy me.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good... it's well earned.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man... respect.

Very friggin’ cold out today. I can imagine…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was ok this morning until I hit the gnarly descent on Bridge Rd

When I realised I should’ve been riding the MTB with disc brakes in that weather.

Lived though. And I can’t preach HTFU if I won’t do it.

(Thanks!)

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Map http://www.bikemap.net/route/344125

A flat stage, a typical sprinters’ ball, with about 100x more climbing than in the first 3 days combined. Always reminds me of the grupetto in a big mountain finish, freewheeling to the top faster than I can on my best day.

by tedvdw on May 18, 2010 6:14 AM EDT reply actions  

EuroSport ticker says:
Dario Cataldo (Ita – Quick Step), Hubert Dupont (Fra – AG2R La Mondiale) and Charles Wegelius (GBR – Omega Pharma-Lotto) have attacked the peloton and have opened up a two minute lead.

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 6:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Make that 6:05 lead, from the Gazzetta thingy with the pictures.

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

And does it really say they're going 130 km/h?

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Cataldo is in the right jersey but Wegelius and Dupont need to be switched, yes? Actually, I can’t see the Ag2r jersey in any of those two. The one on the top looks like Liquigas.

by tedvdw on May 18, 2010 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did...not that long ago either.

but tickers seem to be saying that it is Oliver Kaisen

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on May 18, 2010 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

G'day guys....

…jeeez it feels good to be an Aussie at the moment….fuck the cricket….a game for poofters!!

errrr....am i supposed to sign this??

by Flatbagger on May 18, 2010 6:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Flattie... you've got to do better!

And yes it’s good to have a gloat ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeh...I'm at a mental low at the mo

I see you have the silver tongue too.

errrr....am i supposed to sign this??

by Flatbagger on May 18, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just an old school marm's tongue...

and the ‘p’ word will not stand:) So what’s been your favourite Australian cycling moment in the last few days?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL...

so you’re allowed back on the bike? Good news!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bugger!

Does seeing the Giro make the longing to ride better or worse?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

SA... I've just finished watching :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a word..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey there, how are you??

I’ll be seeing you in Adelaide in Jan.. Booked hotel for 5 days at the moment.. Friggin prices have doubled since last year…

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on May 18, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

All he's good for is gettin' in trouble...

… and shifting his share of the blame. And some people swear he’s my double… and some even say we’re the same…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love you both..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh good!

Whenever I start singing that song, I only ever get blank looks. Finally someone familiar with it…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know I'm not... is it hip-hop? ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

He/she said it was a song...

Songs have no place in hip-hop, you know..

by Holdenmate on May 18, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree completely... but Lou's definitions of 'songs' are flexible..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm flexible too (if not limber)..

I’m only joking of course, there are at least two good hip-hop acts..

by Holdenmate on May 18, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I, on the other hand, am made of granite....

and I no longer drink koolaid..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Milli and/or Vanilli?

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha.. eeww

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in an awkward position, here

Obviously, these philistines need some music education. But the last hip-hop link that Lou posted led to something so awful I just remember the awfulness, and not the name of the song.

by Sui Juris on May 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a torture technique..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Missy?

Come on now…

The stuff that gets heavy rotation with me right at the moment is Goodie Mob (actually, they’ve been on heavy rotation for years…) and … um… Wu-Tang…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

it wasn’t Missy (nod for that), Wu-Tang (part of the canon), or Goodie Mob (big nod for that). It was some really really awful stuff. I’ll now just try to pretend I never saw it.

by Sui Juris on May 18, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you listened to the BlackRoc compilation?

That stuff is gold.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

great record

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on May 18, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ta..

… it’s queueing now ;-)

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're a good woman

I don’t care what Omnevelnihil says about you.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

'good' woman?

I think that you have me mistaken for someone else…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well you've assumed that we share

a definition of the term ‘good’.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hasn't there always been a divide between

‘good’ and nice’?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Urrrrgh! NOT the 'n' word

I cannot stand the ‘N’ word….

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

So do I ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

'Nice' is fraught with peril

And I’m not yet drunk enough to brave that.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

You'd need to get a glimpse of my collection

before you’d be able to commit to shunning with a clear conscience.

And I’m pretty sure you’d just ask me if you could borrow large sections of it.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

rob pilatus, r.i.p.

i’m not sure whether he was the milli or the vanilli.

by discolite on May 18, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

She's practising her Flemish..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It won't load.. should I be grateful?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I bet you'd like it.

One of our best singer-songwriters.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got it :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very broad church... it's the uncertainty ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

But doesn't that just make it more fun?

… you never can tell what you’ll get :-)

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mostly... (I'm stretching the truth here with music) ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who? i seriously can't load it... and I love a good Rhodes scholar

Kris Kristoffersen?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Kim, but the singing thing was a hint :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jackpot!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

So

What kind of long, rambling digression that completely bores everyone not immediately involved can we come up with today?

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 6:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I like it.

I went to a falconry contest a few months ago. It was surprisingly cool.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome!

I went to the Abu Dhabi falcon hospital on the way home from Belgium. It was great. They transplant feathers and such!

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see that..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm working on it

That’s the final set of holiday photos. It’s taken longer to sort the pics than I was away for.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've just started uploading...

Might have a set complete in the next hour or so.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here 'tis

I'm hand feeding a frickin' falcon!"/>

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

meanwhile

there’s probably half a dozen armless laborers resulting from constructing that hospital . . .

by Sui Juris on May 18, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The falcons needed to eat something

(I got to hand-feed one! with a real hand!)

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know

I just don’t see what’s funny about this. I see the slave labour getting exploited, and I just, just . . .

(How was my Seahorse impression?)

by Sui Juris on May 18, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

A bit too histrionic really.

Need more cogency behind it. But keep trying ;)

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one will probably read this

Since the thread is now overtaken by events, but if someone reminds me I may chime in with my thoughts on the labor situation in the gulf.

It is something else.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, if it was americans only, i would ask if anyone else watched DWTS last night and caught that fan-freaking-tastic argentine tango?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on May 18, 2010 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://entertainment.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978242416

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on May 18, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even if I was still living in the U.S.

I would still not be able to discuss that show because I never watch it.

Although I think the tango is a badass dance.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was interesting, once I realised what you two were chatting about..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's quite like cycling

except you can’t stop and get off if it gets too hard.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would LOVE to abseil, but rock climbing might hurt...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well... i don't know how to answer that =(

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be there for adrenaline, i admit it.

Skill is something I save for water and Scrabble..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe good old rugby talk?

Just finish to read John Daniell’s "Confessions of a rugby Mercenary" Interesting, but to me, resembles Alien spaceship flight manual – all this complicated rugby’s rules!

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i watch some on the telly now and then

and don’t have much of clue about the rules. It is kind of fun to watch though.

by yeehoo on May 18, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're 'Laws' apparently. I read them once

I wish the flankers could still disengage form the scrum before the ball leaves.

It made backrow moves so easy.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow Alien talk!

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have taught Wallaby flankers :)

I know… pathetic. My brush with fame

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scott Gourley and Michael Brial

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha! Gourley played against the Lions

And Brial is famous for smashing Frank Bunce’s head in several times. I remember the commentator, "He must be sent off! Michael Brial mist be sent off!’

He wasn’t.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were both giants at 14...

one was a lair, the other wasn’t. I’m sure you can guess who was ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clever man.. thanks!

I’ve heard teachers saying similar things… never pretty :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

And it's always the same

You slide down the rope. Maybe, if you’re feeling frisky, you slide down a little quicker. Otherwise, you don’t.

It’s a rush the first time, but that’s about it.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Middle aged and slightly too fond of my own skin...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do I have moments when i have the illusion of flying?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that because your muscles have turned to water?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fluid movements; a kind of flowing grace

And the consequences of failure make every sense heightened. I imagine a musician feels the same during an audacious solo.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

the idea of grace enchants me..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

and in the water often

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Parasailing will do it.

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not quite the same

But yes. Yes you can. Sometimes you get the flying bit too. Then the landing bit. Then the hurting bit.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

See... in all of the above it's the hurting bit that worries me..

I don’t even wear cleats.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bouldering

The distilled essence of mountaineering. Pure poetry. I love it.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Never been

But I have been to Hueco a few times. What an awesome place.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, thanks for correcting me

On the whole Arapiles thing. we always called it THE Arapiles in the U.S. Seems like a completely awesome crag.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it's quite brilliant really

But not very tall. Most routes are 1 or 2 pitches. It’s quite spicy for the grade. You will have overhung routes that convert to 5.5 in YDS. (!) Once it gets to about grade 19 (.10b) the pro is quite thin – hence RPs. The rock is bullet hard generally, and the ground steep, with lots of good athletic face climbing and small bulges.

I would love to climb at the Gunks or J-Tree though. I’ve heard good things about Wind River too.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Never been to the Gunks

But I can vouch for how awesome J-Tree is. Truly a special place. Very stiff grades, though. Stiffer than most in Colorado, imo.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll start low then

I’ve heard about the desert 5.9s that can be anything from grade 18 to grade 23 equivalent.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not great at converting YDS grades to Australian

But I do know guys that were solid 5.12 leaders who got completely shut down on Figures on a Landscape, which goes at 5.10 b/c. I was a solid 5.10 climber when I went there and I got hammered on 5.9s. Great place.

Here’s a picture of Figures on a Landscape, btw.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's cool.

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Close

Monzonite. Very hard and generally easy on the fingers.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Arapiles.

errrr....am i supposed to sign this??

by Flatbagger on May 18, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is the name of the climb?

Reminiscent of High Exposure at the Gunks.

Looks very, very awesome.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kachoong

It actually begins not too far below the frame. 5.10c equivalent.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh.

Looks like it starts about a million feet below. That roof is the stuff of dreams.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

World's most photographed route, I'd say.

I’d whack a bit more gear in that that bloke though.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

If that piece in the roof blows, he’s looking at a long flight.

I wonder if something like Chain Reaction isn’t as photographed.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh! Where's that?

Oh – and the piece in the roof is a fixed pin. If it goes, he’ll deck.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

You two are fantastic... and I would NEVER do that!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nor would I

He’s skipped at least four gear placements

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

As much as anything, i know I don't have the strength...

physical and probably mental..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Smith Rock.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, you guys are bringing back memories.

I so want to get back to climbing, I had seven summers in the Toas,NM

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on May 18, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean Taos?

I lived about 1 hour from Taos for a while. Very nice climbing.

God, I love New Mexico.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I meant Taos.

It’s stupid how many times I’ve switched the a and the o. The Taos area really got me into climbing. I miss my summers out west so much.

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on May 18, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gap out to 8 minutes for the 3

and everybody is going pretty slow… 35.5 km/h average so far. So the norm for Italian racing.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on May 18, 2010 6:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Hello! First, my congratulation to our Australian friends here! What a double success yesterday!(Giro and ToC )

And now, to the rest of the world’s cycling fans, we have to do something quickly, before they start to use word Hegemony on us!

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 6:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Nah!

We’re just happy if you’re our mates. :-)

errrr....am i supposed to sign this??

by Flatbagger on May 18, 2010 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well said!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's because, as drongo astutely pointed out

The Dutch have a coming Agamemnon.

That leaves the coming hegemony for us.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Albertina <---- stressed. Be nice to her.

Won’t be here for much longer though….VERY important meeting on the other side of London…B.A.H.

by Albertina on May 18, 2010 6:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Something that will change the world of library research forever?

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our database provider is changing the platform radically and finally today they are showing us what it will look like.

We don’t think we’re going to like it for various reasons so we’ve been trialling another one too. But the other one creates some major problems for our work. We need to decide which to go with, and there are a lot of things to consider. It’s complicated, very complicated. But the major reason for my stress is the fact that my colleague is swanning around Vienna currently and left me with all her work to do as well as mine, which is spiralling. But I do need to stop for lunch otherwise I’ll expire.

by Albertina on May 18, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best of luck coping with the changes.

Maybe the new platform will be faster? You do seem to have to wait a long time for results sometimes.

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's something we need to know.

With the one we’ve just trialled, we asked this question and were met by a blank stare. I don’t think they’d ever seen a strategy that long. Not helpful. The main things also are how it copes with multi database searching and deduping and also creating alerts, which we need for our current awareness service. We get the feeling the platform is being dumbed down, which is fine for end users (well actually, that’s debatable too), but not for professional searchers. And they don’t serve that many medical clients so they’re pretty bad at understanding our needs.

by Albertina on May 18, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gap back down to 6:50

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on May 18, 2010 6:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Matt Keenan is doing the highlights package in Oz. Amazing how prescient he is.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 6:52 AM EDT reply actions  

il gap is down to 5:50...

The peloton took a minute back in about 10 minutes.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on May 18, 2010 7:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Uh Oh...Puppy might be getting a bit too excited
Damiano Cunego (Lampre-Farnese Vini) has changed his mind and is now convinced he can compete for overall victory in this year’s Giro d’Italia.

From CN

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on May 18, 2010 7:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Indeed

Very frustrating. I’ve never seen him really dominate the high mountains, after 2004. Who knows? He’s definitely feeling good this year.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he's sitting 9th now.

If he just hangs on while some of the guys ahead of him blow up, he could certainly move up. But win? I think someone should fly to Italy now and have cookies and a Snuggie waiting.

The first 20 minutes of the breakaway I was regretting that I went. But after that it was a really nice day, with huge crowds. I felt like I was in the Giro, only Vinokourov was missing.--Marc de Maar, after Stage 1 of ToC

by majope on May 18, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

sigh

"My clients dont care shit about romandie or mello johnny" - singhstax

by PopUp Rolen on May 18, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

What made him change his mind?

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

sastre's demise

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mmm, my pain!

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

“I’ve been able to stay with the overall contenders so far so there’s no reason not to race with them. I’m aiming big, I want to go for the Giro,” Cunego told Gazzetta dello Sport.

“Montalcino and Terminillo convinced me that I don’t have to accept defeat. I knew that if I prepared well I could do something but it’s always nice when the results prove it.”

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on May 18, 2010 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I like the attitude

I just think it’s misplaced. He seems like a nice guy – I wish him good luck. He’ll need it.

by Runitout on May 18, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too

I tend to see the Little Prince as an over-achiever, where others see him as a frequent disappointment.

by dinomite on May 18, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I had the PdC kit at arm's length today

but the postman took it away again because I didn’t have exact change for the customs charge.

by tedvdw on May 18, 2010 7:28 AM EDT reply actions  

...ouch

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on May 18, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

That sucks!

If I lived in the Netherlands and had a dog, I would so sic him on your mailman.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

couldn't picard get the replicator to produce the correct change

or does that thingamajig only make earl grey? starfleet FAIL!

by discolite on May 18, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't have enough dilithium crystals

Obv.

I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.

by tehGrindCrusher on May 18, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

so are Euros having to pay customs twice?

Once on shipping to the US and once on return to Euroland – meh

by thebongolian on May 18, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

unless it was built into the price

there was no customs charge into the US. And Ted’s the first one I’ve heard had to pay customs (they should stop mucking around with people’s mail and head to Greece to work on tax collection, instead).

by Sui Juris on May 18, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering about that, yes

Postman said: “Customs clearing, import duty, value added tax and such.” Wasn’t specified on the box, I guess. I’ll have it tomorrow after I pay €23.70.

by tedvdw on May 18, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Sometimes people in Sweden use the trick of getting the sender to write “gift” on the package when they order stuff from the US (or outside the EU I guess) to avoid customs charge and VAT. Or, If you’re lucky, the custom service don’t check what’s in the package.

I don’t know what possibilities there are to contest the charges. Given that the stuff came from Italy to begin with, it’s not obvious to me that you should pay the custom and import duties. VAT may be another matter, but then the tax rates in Italy compared to the Netherlands should be noted.

"i just see giro and get all spazzy" - Gavia

by TheFigurehead on May 18, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

hm, they gave it to me for free

just had to show id – very nice – fits perfectly – they forgot to sew up the cap on top though.

by yeehoo on May 18, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

and looks great by the way!

especially if i pull the neckwarmer/cap thing over my face – is it only mine with that feature?

by yeehoo on May 18, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Luck!

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Radiocorsa is showing gap down to 4:30

They also continue to show Wegelius, not Kaisen.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 7:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning.. how is life in beautiful Brazil today?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Life here is great.. just arrived of a great ride in a hilly course around the sea

Was riding alone, but today, instead of imagining myself with AC, Vino, Evans … I was running with my new Aussies friends… :)

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

brazilian riders...

only Fischer comes to my mind. who else?

by Reeppp on May 18, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately just him.. but Mauro Ribeiro won a TDF stage some time ago..

but now we had a pro continetal team.. Sao Jose dos Campos – Scott.. and… the best thing.. the Globo.. the big channel that manipulate 90% of the nation are showing a novel where the main actor is a cyclist! Now We will be the country’s cycling! :)

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it can happen in Australia, it can happen in Brazil..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice... that's a lovely thing to say...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, but...

virando might have been desperately trying to ride away as fast as possible ;-)

Oh, virando…? May I enquire as to your gender? No problem if you’d prefer not to say… I can cope with using gender-neutral terms (it’s just easier, sometimes…)

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm female..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

feel free :)

and Lou… what come after Lou?

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lou is also female... now please tell me the meaning of 'virando' =)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent... thank you!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

...'ise' ;-)

But I get called ‘Lou’ for short… when I signed up here, there was already a ‘Lou’, so this was the only way that I could have ‘Lou’ as my username (does that make sense?)

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

So.. I'm must be dreaming..

A lot of girls that know more about cycling that me…Are u married? :D Because I’m falling in love… #)

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if that was a good opener...

But hey.. I’m Frinking.. No clue whatsoever

by Frinking on May 18, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, I'm single... :-)

…and I believe that I have already declared my love for you, LOL

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

So.. We are going to have 2 weddings...

I will say.. The honeymoon(?) is a trip to every PDC’er on Jens map

by Frinking on May 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just have the honeymoon in Flanders during Holy Week

and PdC will come to you.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

except frinkles ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two weddings?

(and don’t jump the gun there, Frinkster… virando hasn’t proposed yet…)

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

frinky and albertina

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent =)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's a huge difference between the offer

and the acceptance.

Just ask Sui, silence cannot be deemed acceptance.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies here.. :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whyfor? No need to apologise.

It would be a disingenuous offer if there were an assumption of acceptance. You have every right to make your own choice.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have... but ill have my hand over my eyes..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carbolic Smoke Ball Co!

(and Chris isn’t even here to appreciate this)

by Sui Juris on May 18, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sheesh. This changes my view of you completely.

I never thought of you as a delicate flower, waiting around for the man to make the decision…

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahem...

… waiting to see what the offer is. If I’m entering a legally binding contract, it’d wanna be worth my while… ;-)

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just one thing to say

You’re gonna need one of these

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahem - I quote...

“better get a real good one”

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Lou..

Do you prefer to Live on a beautiful beach in Brazil (Aphrodisiac) or I must go to Australia?

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, Brazil I think

It will give me a chance to work on my Portuguese. Plus, there are the rocks… I have some nice specimens from Minas Gerais…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you like rocks?

I can give to you a lot of rocks.. You are so simple.. I love you! :)

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yes...

I am very easily pleased, meu amor :-)

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

woman of my life

When we got married?Can you bring me a kangaroo?

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

It will be my wedding present to you both..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent!

They are delicious! Mmmm… ’roo meat…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

I’ll take him for walks on the beach every day

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

ROFL

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

so this is what happens when I'm at work

when the cat’s away…

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on May 18, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lou..

Is it me or are all jealous of you?

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know I still love you, sminer

I’m sure that virando won’t mind sharing…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm talking about

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on May 18, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hence the need for a good lawyer.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

hm...

I’m an open minded person ..what is good for you, is for me too

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

ow

I lost something here? :D

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

In yesterday's thread?

Oh dear, now you’ll have hurt Lou’s feelings …

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don't remember her declaration of love?

Does this mean many women say it to you every day? ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

How could I forget?

The sweetest I’ve heard “read”.. :)

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Much better! 'Smooth' in fact

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well... i didn't say I'm a girl! That would have been a lie.. ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?!

You didn’t know the gender of Seahore?!

Waaaah.. Sorry..

by Frinking on May 18, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Freudian slip Frinkles?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

you missed the 's' so now it sounds like 'whore' LOL

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what would that be?

The on-ship entertainment?

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not cheap you know!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

So we're talking the QE2, not a navy battleship?

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course... no cheap sequins (or wrinkled cleavage), for me ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I picture you dancing the tango with some elderly billionaire...

…a rose between your teeth, and naughty promises in your eyes.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not too elderly... slender and urbane, with a mane of hair ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

No you're not... but sea... hore... is a problem. sorry...ROFL

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Editing your own word is always difficult.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be honest..

I dropped all of you.. :)
But I always hoped you at the end of the hills .. Here it is very hard .. a lot of belgium’s berg, pluss 40 degrees celsius and a strong wind

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

não

ainda não ;-)

I’m sure that would change if there were more live streams of bike races with Portuguese commentary :-). I’m starting to pick up Spanish thanks to live streams of bike races and soccer matches…

by Lou... on May 18, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i fell in love with a Brazilian man who had political asylum in Vienna....

I love the sound of Portugese :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

you are so cool... I will never be like this man...

I’m just a normal people in somewhere in Brazil That love to know all about cycling .. But I have the revolutionary spirit .. if it help in someway.. and I can speak Portugese for you all the night :D

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you'd make a lovely son :)

Lou is a very good choice… but the Brazilian community in Vienna were amazing. it was also my first time riding on cobbles :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

:)

You are very lovely.. so where is Lou? :)

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Australia...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

spanish and italian are something close to portuguese..

but it will be very hard to see more live streams in portuguese commentary… :(

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gap 4:20.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

So who's in the break?

assuming there s one going on right now…

Wenatchee Wonder FTW

by dees ees en drama on May 18, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Dupont, Cataldo, and either Wegelius or Kaisen, depending on who you ask.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weggi, I think.

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

PIctures are starting!

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Sky is driving for some reason.

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

RAI is doing football updates or something, but BVLS 1 has the race. In Dutch.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I have an english feed :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll have it on TV in 45 minutes, so I haven't looked all that hard.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mini Phinney dominating the Netherlands

After winning the prologue yesterday, he won again today. The kid is uber talented and only 20 years old. I wonder what his plan is: stay in the amateur ranks another year or make the jump to the pros next year? And if he goes pro, where does he go. I don’t think the loyalty is there to stay at RS that people think it is. As we saw when he jumped ship from Garmin, he is going to do what’s best for his career, and I don’t think that is toiling away on a bad Classics team at RS.

"My clients dont care shit about romandie or mello johnny" - singhstax

by PopUp Rolen on May 18, 2010 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep

"My clients dont care shit about romandie or mello johnny" - singhstax

by PopUp Rolen on May 18, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think this needs clarification... I love Sagan :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

so..

fool = Phinney
Super ultra mega power talented= Sagan

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

While I agree that Phinney has said some foolish things

I don’t think you can underestimate his talent and potential.

"My clients dont care shit about romandie or mello johnny" - singhstax

by PopUp Rolen on May 18, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope that he doesn't become a..

the new Armstrong .. but I think it’s too late

by virandociclista on May 18, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'll have the arrogance and determination of Armstrong

But his skill set is completely different. I don’t think there is anyway he will morph into a grand tour rider, so his profile will remain fairly low to non-cycling fans. With the power he has exhibited through winning prologues and time trials, plus his ability to ride the cobbles (U23 Paris Roubaix at 19 years old), I think his potential lies in April.

"My clients dont care shit about romandie or mello johnny" - singhstax

by PopUp Rolen on May 18, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

He will be a pro next year. He has drunk the Lance kool-aid enough to stay where he is at...

I’m sure they will sign some classics men to help him in that category though I think your type-casting him into a cobbles-only man. He does have talent there for sure but he is talented almost everywhere else…

Also you should look who he beat in that sprint…there are really 2 names there in Vermeltfoort and Van Poppel. The field that is at the Olympia’s Tour this year isn’t heavy on sprinters…He got beat at Triptyque Monts Chateau a few times by guys he will most likely face more during his career.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on May 18, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Little help, please!

Does anyone knows what is La Lorrein race? All I know it is suppose to starts tomorrow and Vacansoleil will be there.

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank you!

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sergey’s Lagutin mother in low ask me to thank you for information, also.

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeeeah :D

Thank you.. Are you his brother?! Or his brother in law?! Waaay cool

by Frinking on May 18, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

His mother in low is my next door neighbor. And I know all his family for many years, back in Russia.

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also a Russian?!

He is racing for Belarus no?

by Frinking on May 18, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Russian, but from Uzbekistan

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep! Russkiy

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bah

It was a lot easier to avoid the Planet Armstrong crap on ES when it wasn’t a part of the Giro broadcast.

"i just see giro and get all spazzy" - Gavia

by TheFigurehead on May 18, 2010 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

So watch Rai instead.

It’s not like you need detailed commentary this far from the end with an established break, and the pictures are sure pretty.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I lost my ES feed.. ha!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morning.

Bit more relaxed in the peloton today…

by Triki on May 18, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Sky was working before foe a wile.

We are Cyclists, we are the special breed, we fear nothing, but our own weaknesses! ( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on May 18, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Morning Podium Cafe!!!

Its 915am local time and sunny bright and warm currently in Georgetown Guyana.

I am going to go against the house and say:

A small group of attackers will hold off the sprinters today

If I wanted to get shit small wins, I'd race shit small races (Cavendish on Greipel)

by singhstax on May 18, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Betting against the house is always fun ..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here are some screencaps for those with no pictures today.

Came out a little blurrier than they look on the screen, but you’ll get the idea.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

right in time for singhstax :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on May 18, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

many thanks

If I wanted to get shit small wins, I'd race shit small races (Cavendish on Greipel)

by singhstax on May 18, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

but, where's the rain?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on May 18, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

In Sydney.

I'm betting on science to cure all the damage done by my reckless behaviour.

by omnevelnihil on May 18, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

From VLC Player?

I think they’re vertically stretched? VLC Player isn’t good at automatically determining the aspect ratio; I have always had to adjust the Rai Sport feed by hand to 16:9. It’s in the Video menu somewhere.

by tedvdw on May 18, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, VLC. I'll try that next time I'm in it--thanks.

Part of it is the speed, I think. If I could find the control to pause it before I took the screen cap, it would probably come out better, but it disappears somewhere on my little netbook. When the image is steady, it comes out a lot clearer.

In the past it wound me up seeing riders who were not as good as me go twice as fast as me on the climbs. But I've stopped asking myself if someone is okay or not. You can't let it send you crazy. --Damiano Cunego

by majope on May 18, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

from the latest TOTO

"Does the pope Greipel in the woods?

"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."

by ant1 on May 18, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

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