Franco Pellizotti Fails Bio-Passport, Out of Giro
Gazzetta dello Sport reports today that Franco Pellizotti has fallen afoul with the bio-passport regime. The UCI has asked the Italian Federation to open a discplinary procedure against Pellizotti due to anamolous results in his bio-passport record. The Italian will not ride the upcoming Giro d'Italia as a consequence.
According to Gazzetta, the UCI notified Pellizotti of the irregular results two months ago. The rules offer the rider a chance to provide an explanation of the fluctuations, but it seems that Pellizotti could not do so. The irregularities date from testing around the time of the 2009 Tour de France, where Pellizotti won the mountains jersey. He also finished third at the 2009 Giro d'Italia, a performance that included a huge ride on the Blockhaus climb deep in the third week of the race.
With Franco Pellizotti out of the Giro, Liquigas-Doimo is expected to name Vincenzo Nibali as his replacement. Originally, Nibali intended to skip the Giro to focus on the Tour de France. The young Sicilian was scheduled to race the Tour of California. It appears he will now be spending May in Italy where he will share team leadership with Ivan Basso.
According to Gazzetta, we can expect the UCI to announce passport cases for up to five riders over the next few days. The Spanish newspaper Marca reports that Tadej Valjavec of AG2R-La Mondiale is expected to be among the riders implicated. Valjavec will also miss the Giro d'Italia. — Sources, Gazzetta dello Sport, Marca
Update: The president of the Italian Federation, Renato di Rocco, has confirmed the news that Franco Pellizotti is provisionally suspended on the ground of irregularities in his bio-passport. Di Rocco also named a second Italian involved in the bio-passport cases. — Source, Tuttobiciweb.it.
Update: The UCI has issued a press release naming three riders in the bio-passport case. The three riders are Franco Pellizotti, Jesus Rosendo Prado, and Tadej Valjavec. The UCI has asked for disciplinary procedures against all three riders, who showed irregularities in their bio-passports. A team of independent experts carried out the analysis of passport data. The release makes no mention of Carlo Scognamiglio, who the Italian Federation president claimed was also implicated in the case. The press release only names three riders, and it's unclear whether this is the end of the story or whether there are more names to come. The initial reporting claimed five riders would be named, but that story may have been incorrect. — Source, UCI Press Release.
Update: ISD has issued a statement on the bio-passport case:
Carlo Scognamiglio, this year in the team of ISD, has never received any communication regarding the possibility of irregularities in his passport, nor has the team.
The team statement also asserts that the statements of Di Rocco are false and the team is lawyering up in reaction to the to the image of the team and rider. — Source, ISD Cycling Team.
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Beat my FanPost by 1 minute...
This will further cement the Lantern Rouge strategy for “Trois Semaines Sans,” I was a bit worried when Chris listed Jennifer Grey as the top fave for the Giro.
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
Ursula
I knew Pello was guilty so I would never have listed him. ah… right.
by Chris Fontecchio on May 3, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if McQuaid is looking at my post and saying, "Let's bust this one, and that one, and ooh! take him too!"
Would you do a post
on Elvisgoat’s team please?
by Chris Fontecchio on May 3, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Alberto Contador Velasco
Thomas Lofkvist
Oscar Freire Gomez
Robbie McEwen
George Hincapie
Graeme Brown
Tadej Valjavec
Kurt Asle Arvesen
Dominique Rollin
Frédéric Amorison
Nico Eeckhout
Alexandre Botcharov
Julian Dean
Mikhail Ignatiev
Koen Barbe
Ted King
Chris is doing everything he can think of to stick it to ya.
I personally think that’s awful behavior but if you need help in any way, I’l be on you side if you send me over 1000 VDS points.
I wouldn't dream of hurting our friend kos!
How about a trade then? You give me Contador and I’ll reluctantly part with Vazquez.
Bingo
I can’t imagine Basso isn’t smiling a little. Though I was looking forward to seeing Jenn Grey in the cage fight with all that pretty hair.
by Douglas Ansel on May 3, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
a certain taoist approach by Amadio. “If I do nothing, they’ll start shooting themselves in the foot.”
by Chris Fontecchio on May 3, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Hate to see the news
But glad to see the passport finally starting to work, or at least raise good questions, after so much waiting.
Also, glad I picked Carlos for my Giro GC man…
+4 (+2 each)
I picked Nibali
"I though, I’d better let this motorbike come by but when I turned around and looked it was Cancellara," - Bernhard Eisel
Stupid comment deleted
Re-read the post…
by Chris Fontecchio on May 3, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions
tnx muchly gav
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
no stress
makes for a slightly crazy morning here on the west coast when all these things go down at once!
but it starts your week off with that very important "zing".... wakes ya right up there, don't it?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Well there goes the guy whom I picked to win
but I’m quite excited to hear about Nibali going there, although I question Leaky’s motives. I hope Nibali was something like “I’m Italian, stop with the Cali and France BS…let that Czech guy who loves Switzerland lead there, send me to my GT!!!!”(flailing arms) but I highly doubt it. Unless Nibali goes only to help Basso here and there and otherwise take it easy Leaky may have just lost a GC contender for July. I assume Kreuz is smiling and so is Basso….because he always smiles.
Quitter's People United member # 42
nibali's descending skills. rai camera work. nuff said
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Franco Pellizotti and Filippo Pozzato
I still can not keep these two straight. I must think they are the same person and he just rides a lot of races.
I don't think you'll have any trouble remembering anymore
by lieutenantmudd on May 3, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Pozzato = guy with god tattoo on Katusha
Pellizotti = doper on Liquigas
Pellizotti + Pizzato = Curly, moussed hair, Italian, funky facial hair, FP intials zs, Ts, Os, and Is in last name.
Francpipo Pozzizzato?
Translated from Danish into English: "Bush league, psyche out shit, man! Laughable!"
There aren't any Zs in 'Jennifer Grey.'
As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink
Pellizottilocks and Pozzatolocks?
Russian Vladimir Karpets is not only known for his mullet but also for his radical facial hair; he is not known for much else.
And Pozzovivo?
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on May 3, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's on the Sidi site.
As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink
yup, lotta man in that commercial
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on May 3, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a poorly organized website. www.sidisport.com. Sheesh. Finally found it.
That’s a lot of oil! Imagine being the person who got to oil him down. Whoa. He definitely has the T-rex body going on.
Lovely legs though.
You are my new best friend for saying that. When you add in Petacchi my head just spins..
I’m getting there though…baby steps…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
What's he dong on the women's podium?
by Christopher See on May 3, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm, sad for cycling
Happy for my VDS team.
Sad for the ToC.
Cycling will always be a beautiful sport no matter how many people disgrace it.--Christian Vande Velde
Other riders
So now this 2nd Italian and Tadej. Anyone hear who the others might be?
"That's like, your opinion man." - The Dude
There are suppose to be five people on the list.
We have three. I believe that I read somewhere that there were two Spaniards on the list. If this is a result of the 09 Tour, who could that be?
The Tour was only in reference to Pellizotti, not the other riders.
As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink
Adding: note that neither Valjavec nor Scognamiglio were at last year's Tour.
As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink
Spaniards were horrible at the Tour
so you won’t find clues there. Well, except one guy who wasn’t. I imagine it’ll be two nobodies, probably guys doping up for the Tour of Portugal or something.
Also wondering who the Russian might be. Russians — rather than Russians from Kazakhstan — have had amazingly few positive tests over the last decade.
by Mr 60 Percent on May 3, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope not too
I dig that guy. The UCI press release only has three riders, so it’s possible that the story about five was incorrect.
Maybe we’re done now?
I hope you were touching wood when you asked that question ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No don't... doping threads are depressing...
a little levity won’t hurt…. So is that why Americans say, ‘Knock’ instead of ‘touch’? See, ample space here for not resisting.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So this is not your best work R... I'm looking for low-brow innuendo...
It was amazingly, a serious question though. I love of all the different renditions of the same idea in what we sometimes foolishly believe is the same language ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I guess
it’s because this movie wouldn’t work as “”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iVU6cZvXbE" >touch wood"
I'm saving this :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
OK...you want low-brow?
Here was my initial 1/2 second, off-the-top-of-my-head thought to to your post:
I’m always touching wood…wait, what was the question?
Do I detect /snark?
Russian Vladimir Karpets is not only known for his mullet but also for his radical facial hair; he is not known for much else.
there's a few other possibilities
botcharov
brutt
the efimkins
ignatiev
ivanov
trofimov
plus menchov and karpets mentioned before
plus a few more on Katusha I’ve never heard of but will in the programme
I know where I’d put my money but will say no more
Well there was one name you listed there that I have always felt suspicious about
and he has even gotten in trouble before with doping, i.e. suspected blood levels back in 2000.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
indeed
he is the proverbial elephant in that russian room
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
I was determined not to...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I like seeing Menchov smiling because I like him too..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Thanks Ted :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
For me, the joyous celebration when he finished the Giro last year was really special.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
The Emo-scream heard round the universe, right?
Russian Vladimir Karpets is not only known for his mullet but also for his radical facial hair; he is not known for much else.
Oops... that might have been me jumping on the sofa and crying :(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
enuf with the nationalistic stereotypes
y’hear??
Or else I start posting Toby Keith and Garth Brooks videos.
(end snark)
He can't help you now, he's busy saving Jesus.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
My eardrums suffer less with R Mc
than with hip hop and other musical forms like Euro pop. Some days Garth would look pretty good.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Did it really have to do? Really?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So you think ALL australians jump on sofas and weep with joy? How naive...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
OMG... i'd forgotten. No... just NO!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I've finally come out :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And 'our poor Nicole'... we've barred him...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And yet we tried him and then said an emphatic no.
I’m not sure if it was the teeth or the Scientology..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You got that right..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I go with the theory..
How bigger the fish, how faster the rumor leaked… Haven’t heard anything in his direction
You're training him well ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Valverde
so he can be suspended already, even though it’s not for the original case(wouldn’t that be something).
Quitter's People United member # 42
If it's AV, it's a big case
so Pellizotti or other should start looking for jobs in bike shops, hair salons and Dirty Dancing remakes. Their careers are done. Valverde, of course, would continue racing and winning like he always does.
by Mr 60 Percent on May 3, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The most important question is how does Nibali's absence at the TOC imact Levi's quest for four Cali overall wins in a row.
I kid!
"My clients dont care shit about romandie or mello johnny" - singhstax
You would think so,
but his climbing is less than impressive this year.
Yeah...he dominated Tom Danielson and some U.S. conti pro's...
Offical Terminator status
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
Not much
An Italian winning so far from Italy? Meh.
by Chris Fontecchio on May 3, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course Levi will win
and then he’ll retreat back to anonymity in order to serve the great one.
by agl on May 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If I'm Garmin, i get Bubble Boy on the first flight to Amsterdam
The way the dominos are falling, he may be able to contend for podium by the second week of the tour
"My clients dont care shit about romandie or mello johnny" - singhstax
Maybe for a week-long stage race
Doubtful for 3 weeks.
by Douglas Ansel on May 3, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The boy is young...you have to later him mature in the GT's somehow.
Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!
yeah, he almost always breaks down during three week tours
He’ll probably finish top 10 in ToC and then proclaim mission accomplished and say something like “I’ve shown I can compete with the best in the world.”
Yeah far too little of a sample size to say Martin has shown he can't do GT's
now I do see him struggling in these races in the future and he may be better off becoming a Lulu type but it’s too early to declare this to be his definite fate.
Quitter's People United member # 42
You say this as if it is a negative
but could you just whip out a Jesus joke if you believed he was a savior?
Quitter's People United member # 42
Jesus Saves!
Sidney Crosby puts in the rebound….
by Christopher See on May 3, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Fearless prediction:
While the Tour de France sometimes visits 5 countries in a single Tour, and the Giro has decided to visit DC,
We won’t be seeing the Giro enter Spain (or more importantly) the Vuelta enter Italy, for a few hundred years.
Curse of the Polka Dots?
Not another contributant to its spotty history one had hoped ended with the Chicken.
Russian Vladimir Karpets is not only known for his mullet but also for his radical facial hair; he is not known for much else.
Oh my, totally forgot about the Non-Maurice Garin chimney sweeper.
Russian Vladimir Karpets is not only known for his mullet but also for his radical facial hair; he is not known for much else.
I mentioned this in the GC post
but Katusha just added Karpets to their Giro team so I think it is safe to say the Mullet will not be the Russian implemented here.
Quitter's People United member # 42
Given the collective wisdom here,
perhaps jens or someone can tell me how to ‘implement’ a man. I feel it could be a useful piece of knowledge to have ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Yes, I'm hoping she'll solve this conundrum..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And we love you for it :)
Now get rid of that apostrophe!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
that attack of the apostrophe’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’s is here!!!
Quitter's People United member # 42
I'm not looking! I feel like I've been grading papers for a week :(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That's the problem with having Summer in December
if you had it in June you would be almost done with the grading. Or in my case, just let yourself go and completely forget how to write in proper English.
Quitter's People United member # 42
It's almost the end of our first semester... I figure your teachers are doing much the same..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I think my teachers have just quit
and have just assigned some type of weird final project instead of a final paper so they don’t have to grade.
Quitter's People United member # 42
They still have to grade it surely?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
STOP SAYING THE G-WORD
Cowers and twitches uncontrollably.
I KNOW! We actually say 'marking' rather than 'grading'
but I wanted to share the pain…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
His hair is going nowhere.
Russian Vladimir Karpets is not only known for his mullet but also for his radical facial hair; he is not known for much else.
Nice jaw line too...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Let's get to the REAL impact here...
and that’s how this’ll effect VDS. I have Tadej on my squad (and I see 50 others do too). Is there an upside to this?
And mine :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Congratulations
I’m relying on little Domenico Pozzovivo and some watercarriers. Shine? Not so much.
And I have Carlos and little Richie Porte AND Nibali...
why is it that i still want Cadel to win?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I liked him anyway, but that just made me feel odd...
I understood that he wasn’t easy to warm to, so I’m glad he seems more at ease in his own skin.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
In reality
Pozzo has a much better chance to finish high in the Giro than Leenooos.
Quitter's People United member # 42
I'm hoping that Sastre has an even better chance..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
So does this mean that Egoi Martinez will get the Mountains title from the tdf?
What happens to the Giro result? Any clues…
The artist formerly known as jf(bunchofnumbers).
I should add...well, perhaps 2 years from no when the appeals are all over and the UCI wins.
The artist formerly known as jf(bunchofnumbers).
No positive test, no retroactive stripping of wins
if he had tested positive at the Tour 09 then that could happen.
I don't totally get that
It seems to me the criteria should be a bannable offense …. not a positive dope test.
no sense.
so passport only tries to find an irregularity. If they do, they can yell “cheater”. But, nothing more can happen other then test the dude more often and hope they can catch him?
He’s just suspended, right? Does that mean he could actually pull a Valverde and ride if the team would let him?
The artist formerly known as jf(bunchofnumbers).
The case of Claudia Pechstein is relevant to your question
Her CAS ruling in full.
The irregualrity in her blood values, despite her never having an adverse analyical finding, led to her being suspended – as blood doping was deemed the only thing that could have led to the iregualrities
Her suspension was the first, I think, based solely based on longtitudinal testing to be ratified by CAS. So yes – if you find an irregularity you can call “cheater”.
The Pechstein CAS ruling looked in detail at other factors (personal health etc) that could have affected the blood values. I assume this is why the UCI gave the three 30 days to provide extra information before issuing its news (unlime last time round iirc)
Valverde, on the ohter hand, has benefitted from his national federation being unwilling to open proceedings against him (case pending), and has been arguing CONI had no jurisdiction to do (case lost) – hence is still racing.
Mr Pellizotti will not get similar largesse from the Italian authorities. Once proceedings are opened you are ineligible to race.
I don't think
they will alter the results as a consequence of bio-passport cases, but I could be wrong.
Sastre would move to second in the Giro, if they revised the Giro.
Off Topic but
perhaps more fun than a doping thread
Our friend Ted King has a nice Giro shirt for sale:
http://cutawayclothing.bigcartel.com/product/official-i-am-not-ted-king-giro-d-italia-shirt
and no, I Am Not Ted King
Three Years in a Row
The KOM classification winner of the last three TDF’s has now been been brought to court for violating doping protocols.
It seems we’ll only need to test the guys high in this classification to see whether or not the racing is clean.
We've pretty much reached the point
where you don’t even need to bother with the test.
in 2007 Soler won the KOM, not Rasmussen. Why can no-one remember the scrappy little Colombian?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No... and i love him as a rider...
I’m trying to say there was one unbesmirched KOM jersey in the past three years :(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I know... I'm just showing him some love... poor little fella.
For me, his KOM jersey win was a gorgeous narrative :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I am entranced. Thanks!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I haven't, but now I want to. Will my school girl French be an impediment?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
But not many of those, as there's almost no dialogue
You could watch the whole thing dubbed into Gaelic and it would still be great.
I thought as much... visually it's just gorgeous... and funny
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I think I already do.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I don't think i have to be convinced... drongo did excellent ground work :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
no scognamiglio
in this scandal. and his team is quite annoyed that di rocco mentioned his name. lawyer time!
me, i’m just glad i don’t have to keep typing his name.
Very odd, though.
It’s not like “Scognamiglio” is a name you could easily mix up with “Pellizotti,” “Valjavec,” or “Redondo.” Wonder what brought his name to Di Rocco’s tongue?
As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink
So that leaves the possibility of another Italian rider being investigated,
if the Gazzetta’s right about that.
Vincent Lavenu isn't happy
If this is the ordinary Manuel-from-Barcelona behavior, I don’t know.
"i just see giro and get all spazzy" - Gavia
I have search for some reactions but nothing…yet.
"I though, I’d better let this motorbike come by but when I turned around and looked it was Cancellara," - Bernhard Eisel
greg henderson posted something
otherwise, i guess some of the riders are a bit cautious since this isn’t the normal case of failed doping tests
Henderson's tweets:
So who won the giro last year?
about 1 hour ago via Twitterrific
Off you trot Pellizotti. Keep em coming UCI. RT @stevendejongh Exit pellizotti.
about 6 hours ago via Twitterrific in reply to stevendejongh
As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink
lol, i don't even think he meant to accuse menchov
i guess he honestly doesn’t know who won!
Yeah, I took it the same way--not an accusation against Menchov, just comment on what happened to the podium since.
As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink
So why put "who won" when there's only one possible answer?
“What’s the Giro podium now” is a fair question that can be debated. “Who won” is not really open to any form of interpretation.
Because he was tweeting off the top of his head, not composing an essay?
As we went over the top, Frank Schleck said to me, 'Don't worry, follow my wheel, it'll be OK.' But the first corner, he crashed, he went into a ditch....For two years now I've had to explain why I'm bad at going downhill because of that day.--Robert Gesink
Fair enough.
Still careless though. Wonder how the Sky riders would react if someone from another team wrote that about one of theirs.
That's the problem with the twit
people don’t think before they post which leads to talking points, the Denver Nuggets players have this issue.
Quitter's People United member # 42
wait you just used
the word “think” in (loose) conjunction with a Nor Am pro sporting organization….
by Christopher See on May 4, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Strange but true
Riders don’t always pay much attention to races that they are not racing in.
I was told by one once that in 5 years nobody will care who won such and such classic, in fact he didn’t even know who had won it that year…needless so say he isn’t a classics racer.
Erm, that's a bit libellous towards Menchov, is it not?
I know Menchov is tied up with Humanplasma, but unless Henderson knows something we don’t about the yet-to-be-named Russian, it seems rather presumptuous.
He erred
He is, after all, only human. Even Denis is thinking: “If I ride him into a ditch, does he not bleed?”
by tedvdw on May 3, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up

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