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Tour de Suisse GC Power Poll!

Suisse-cheese_mediumYou may ask yourself why I keep writing one power poll after another. Whether I am capable of doing anything besides collecting names of cyclists or teams and assembling them in some sort of order. Whether this is a writing style or a neurological disorder. Well, don't ask. The answers simply aren't important. Your time is better spent thumbing through the Tour de Suisse overall contenders in a highly significant order. And looky here...

1. Tony Martin, HTC

It all makes sense. Not because he has the jersey. No, it's because this is the year -- we all write off the HTC juggernaut as a two-year episode at the first sign of a bump in the road. We decide Cavendish's luck has run out, and reality won't be quite as easy as it's been. Oh, and they never could win stage races. Except then they do, like the Tour of California, which isn't quite on par with the Tour de Suisse, but not that far off. And Germans love winning in Switzerland. And Martin has already busted out with his time trial win in LA. Unlike most guys who try NOT to be on form in June, Martin is there. It's on.

Then there's the rest of the squad. Michael Albasini, because every team needs a climby, useful Swiss guy. Monfort and Roulston add support, and if/when Cav goes home Martin will have help from Renshaw and Eisel as well. Calling pre-Tour races is a bit of guesswork and alchemy, and this feels right.

2. WAIT! How about the guys who aren't here to win?

This is always total guesswork. Even when you get statements from the riders saying they're not in shape, they often suddenly get in shape when it's the penultimate day and they're sitting 20 seconds out of the lead. So you never know, but...

  • Lance Armstrong: Lance is one of the least effective sandbaggers alive. After The Look, I think he burned that tactic. Still, he won the Team Radio Shack online poll for who will win the TdS, so I guess you never know.
  • Levi Leipheimer: Why won't they let Levi ride? Ah well, he seems to like his day job, riding about a half-dozen races a year.
  • Michael Rogers: easy one, he went home already.
  • Thomas Lofkvist: I could imagine him trying to win, but he took all of May off, so the idea of him peaking is a bit far-fetched.
  • Jakob Fuglsang: Says he's timing his peak for July because it's his first Tour. Call me gullible but I believe him.
  • Andy Schleck: Not a great race for him anyway, in terms of the Crono/Climb gap ratio. Have I just invented a new statistic? Is it time for me, Majope and Ursula to call in sick?
  • Roman Kreuziger: after-effects of his health problems have left one of the ideal challengers still looking for good form. He's more or less out of contention after dropping two minutes yesterday.

Um, OK, so who does that even leave? Back to the poll:

2. Robert Gesink, Rabobank

No good performance can come without a dark cloud for Rabobank, who lost Laurens Ten Dam for the time being in a nasty crash two days ago. But Bauke Mollema has been pretty active so far, and that's all just a prelude to the massive attack Robert Gesink has in store for Thursday. Sure, he will probably give up a spot or two on GC in the time trial, but, I dunno, this just feels like a winnable race. And he could use a win.

3. Jonathan Castroviejo, Euskaltel

If you can say you know much about him, I bow to you. To me he's a mystery, except in that he's had some decent time trials, he' d certainly cheirish a win, and you don't get an orange shirt if you can't climb.

4. Nicholas Roche, AG2R

Looking feisty so far. Irish Peloton is a better source for all things Roche, but the guy is coming into his prime and has results like fifth in Catalunya and 10th in Paris-Nice that suggest he could be on the podium here. One big plus is his time trialing, since a lot of the guys on this list aren't exactly big engine types.

5. Rigoberto Uran, Caisse d'Epargne

The future is now, apparenlty. Maybe Rui Costa will make the podium too! OK, not. Uran has some mileage on his legs at the moment, coming off the Giro, but he's shown some initiative here, doesn't have to save it all for July, and should look good over all the decisive stages.

6. Fabian Cancellara, Saxo Bank

This race may be his last hurrah for a while, so don't be terribly shocked if he manages to limit his losses and stay in range of a top result after the final time trial. Not a great climber? Sure, but he kills the descents when he needs to... and all the big stages have descents, including the final stretch of Thursday's queen stage. Suddenly the scenario doesn't look far-fetched. I should've known when Cancellara, whose diverse array of skills includes top-notch work with the sandbag, denied that he would have any shot at the win.

7. Joaquin Rodriguez, Katusha

Running out of climbers who have no hope next month. So he gets on the list. I am very uninspired about this pick and should probably stop the poll now but...

8. Frank Schleck, Saxo Bank

It'd be a great story if he could turn the tables on Switzerland and win their national Tour, just two years after going over the rail in dit ees ein drama fashion. His team is loaded too: Larsson, Voigt and O'Grady backing everyone up, Breschel yelling at the mechanics, Riis making stealth calls to potential sponsors. Anyway, nobody else is here to kick total ass, so it's hard to overlook the squad with 50% of the stage wins and four guys in the top 16.

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I want some love for Mollema!

He is taking his job very seriously this TdS.. First GC man to arrive today! He’s sharp as a knive and was really pissed, not really, of the missed stage win chance he had yesterday. He’s going to lose muchos time but he was one of the strongest uphill.. And he doesn’t have to worry about the Tour..
5th for him

by Frinking on Jun 15, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Love to see it

I have been overly bullish about Rabo guys this year, so I decided not to rank Mollema, particularly with a mid-length crono and after he did the Giro. But I’d be happy about this.

by Chris Fontecchio on Jun 15, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

T-Mart has to drop Cance w/o being dropped himself on stage 6

is he ready to step up and climb with the big boys? We will find out on Thursday although there aren’t many great climbers at the TdS. If he drops Cance and finishes within 30 secs of whoever wins stage 6 then it should be the win for Tony. Also, is your Tour of Slovenia route preview coming up?

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by Phil H. on Jun 15, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Eeh.. Define climber...

Or whas this again a hidden I’m totally in love with Contador statement?

by Frinking on Jun 15, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a 'totally in love with Conta' statement if I ever heard one.

But who can live up to Phil’s assessment of what a great climber is anyway?

"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton

by sminer on Jun 15, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes please define many

let me guess, it means none? So you have Gesink and Frank and maybe Mollema but then? Not a very deep climbers field of those who look like they are on form to win.

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by Phil H. on Jun 15, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Directed towards Frinkles and snarkster up there

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by Phil H. on Jun 15, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Define snark

:o)

BTW, I agree that this climber field is rather shallow. Contador could be in this field and there still wouldn’t be “many” climbers here.

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by dees ees en drama on Jun 15, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Snarkster=sminer

sorry should have clarified

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by Phil H. on Jun 15, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the...

As far as I remember everybody who can climb is here except Contador..

Andy Schleck, Frank Schelck, Gesink, Uran, Kreuziger, Rodriguez, Lofkvist, Leipheimer, Garate, T. Martin, The Boss, Hesjedal, Mollema, Luis Leon.. Or what are they called? And have you more climbers in the peloton?

by Frinking on Jun 16, 2010 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please define great

or in other words the upper echelon.

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by Phil H. on Jun 16, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of those guys are upper echelon climbers...

…may not be upper echelon GC riders though. There is, at least reportedly, a difference.

by Ed K on Jun 16, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if you look at who's climbing like one right now

the list is limited. Andy is not, Kreuz is not, J-Rod is not, Lofkist who knows, Levi seems not to be. Then Garate, Boss Hog, Hesjedal and Sanchez are not upper echelon climbers in the big mountains. So from Frinkings list that leaves Frank, Gesink, Uran and Mollema. I am not very confident about Uran’s climbing abilities but the other 3 I mentioned as the guys to watch for tomorrow.

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by Phil H. on Jun 16, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we debating who's on form for *this* race or who's a good climber?

Those are pretty different questions. I think Frinking’s point was that there are some real climbers here. He’s not wrong. Your point is that very few are seriously on form right now. That might also be true.

by Ed K on Jun 17, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

define debate

better yet, define frinking.

by yeehoo on Jun 17, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if they aren't on form then are they really very good climbers at the moment?

ah fuck it…let’s just see what happens here in an hour.

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by Phil H. on Jun 17, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can this have a logo like

and not have anyone from Milram in this power poll?

OK, I’m kidding…you made the right call there.

I’m hoping and praying for #6, but think it’s pretty far fetched.
What do you mean by, “This race may be his last hurrah for a while” – That’s not some motor doping reference is it?

by JustJoshinYa on Jun 15, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Did I miss something?

Why is this Cance’s last hurrah for a while?

by profgubler on Jun 15, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

just meant

he’ll be on team duty at the Tour, and then probably off to build for the worlds. That said, there are Swiss nats and the odd Tour stage he could still target.

by Chris Fontecchio on Jun 16, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are Kreuziger's health problems?

And while I’m at it, can someone tell me please what Liqui’s tour/vuelta plans are?

by sebastiandeluded on Jun 16, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

No idea about the health problems

but I ventured over to the Versus site yesterday and they had an article on Kreuziger.

Highlights:

-He did not plan on contending here in Switzerland
-He and Basso are most likely leaders in the Tour
-Nibali will most likely rest up for Vuelta

I hate mountain lions. -me

by fineco on Jun 16, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did they say anything about Sagan?

When you riding a TT and your body tell you to slow down, don’t listen to it! Tell it to shut the F#@K up! And go even faster!
( from my DS pep talk, long, long, long time ago.)

by holmovka on Jun 16, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

he felt ill during l-b-l and romandie.

medical tests done afterward in italy and the czech republic indicated pneumonia (albeit not an especially severe case).

by discolite on Jun 16, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the Frank S. pick.

He seems be going well this year. Nothing to say that Frank can’t be better than Andy from time to time. We are very close to the Tour, so I’m not sure if that position has enough time to change back. What Frank has shown lately are mostly just short bursts of strength. But since he has never had an endurance problem that I know of, I’m thinking that his recent showing will translate well to the bigger mountains. Can’t wait for stage 6 to see some confirmation – or lack thereof.

by tamburlaine on Jun 16, 2010 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Thursday's stage is just

too mountainous for Spartacus. If he can survive in contention after that stage then he should become a Grand Tour GC guy.

moo

by Willj on Jun 16, 2010 6:47 AM EDT reply actions  

A couple of additions

1) Dries Devenyns (Bel) Quick Step

Let’s review his TdS so far…
st 1: 5th
st 3: makes a few digs off the front, finishing in the Cancellara group
st 4: is close enough to the front to take 10th behind peta.

This guy is certainly taking no chances of getting Sastred out of this race, can TT pretty decently when riding for himself, and currently sits 5th overall. I’d be surprised to see him finish much lower by the end of the week.

2) Ryder Hesjedal (Can) Garmin – Transitions

Currently only in 19th position…but only 27 seconds back. He’s been having a damn fine season with 2nd, 9th & 12th in the Ardennes and a stage win and 5th overall in ToC. He’s also been seen taking jabs off the front of the race and probably has protected ryder status on his team. I might even go so far as to predict that he’s having a Vandevelde 2008 kind of season.

by Hons on Jun 16, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

I like how Devenyns is doing. Very much under the radar, but he could be a nice surprise for a good general classification placing .

by MathieuG on Jun 16, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

His achievements are being covered up by the powers that be

since he is my secret weapon in the EDs league. Damn you for your pettiness Chris!

by Jens on Jun 16, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

My pettiness

made your VDS team what it is today.

by Chris Fontecchio on Jun 16, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright…nationalism aside, I retract Ryder from this GC poll. He lost over 2 minutes today. Anyone know why?

by Hons on Jun 16, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roche

Wouldn’t see him pushing for the podium if the weather keeps bad. He’s just been selected as part of the AG2R Tour team so has nothing to prove and all he really needs to do is get the racing miles back in his legs.

WRT his time-trialling. This I think is actually the biggest hole in his armoury. I was really surprised at hm in Paris-Nice, dicking around the way he did by trying something new in the TT that he hadn’t thought to try out n training.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Jun 16, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

just as long as Martin can drop Cancellara, then he should be good...

after his climbing performance as a domestique in Cali, where he pulled for, oh about, the last 100k and won the time trial the next day. Just has to drop Cancellara by a good margin…at least a minute.

Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!, Tommeke!

by Vlaanderen90 on Jun 16, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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