TdF Stage 17 Fourth thread
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"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
\o/
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Death to the chalkbahhhhhhhhhht!
Dude, I can see my house from here
Do the Euros resent the chalkbot as much as I do?
I find it somewhat embarrassing, as an American.
"He looked pretty good until he went over the side of that cliff." - thevaro
It's so generic
Part of the fun of people actually chalking it on themselves is it’s personal and not perfect and individual. Not all square font and perfectly sized. Bah.
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
plus it's too small to read on tv
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
that's the only plus side
Dude, I can see my house from here
way to be an optimist
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
and the fact
that it’s a giant nike ad campaign
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
someone should come up with an anti chalkbot
that just follows theirs and erase the messages. maybe reebok would pay for it.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
The Basques should just pinch it and chuck in some red chalk
and EUSKIE up everything
I could get behind that
Dude, I can see my house from here
is that some kind of asphalt Zamboni?
Dude, I can see my house from here
field hockey i think
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
streetcleaner
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
just needs a PdC logo on the side.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
48.3km, 4.31
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
geez
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
bastard chalkbot everywhere
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
Who's bright idea was it to put chalkbot ON A DESCENT??!
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions
come on carlos!
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
Did anyone see Gesink in the peloton?
Alexander " Love him or not" Vinokurov is the Eighth Wonder of the World.
.
he's there, i'm pretty sure of that
not seen him for a while mind.
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
I didn’t see him with Menshov.
Alexander " Love him or not" Vinokurov is the Eighth Wonder of the World.
.
He was mentioned in dispatches... he's there.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Thanks Bruce, You as always on the top of a things!
Alexander " Love him or not" Vinokurov is the Eighth Wonder of the World.
.
Well, this is suitably dramatic: 39k to go, and the last 11k of the
day decides so much. Who could have thought we’d have a climax like this in the Tour after such a great Giro?
5 minutes seems good enough a advantage
to hold on the Tourmalet. Or not?
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
you don't get an orange jersey
if you cannot, at least, defend on a climb :)
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
very long false flat
before start of Tourmalet. I expect they’ll lose 2 minutes there as Peloton picks up
moo
good point
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
maybe one or two will make it
that’s my guess
by RoadRash911 on Jul 22, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope Alpe d'Huez
I kind of expect Ventoux, because sastre’s getting caught this time I think.
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
+1
i want some damn fireworks! but i’m afraid andy and bert might be a little too evenly matched.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
on the climbs at least
but lets see how the strategy plays out
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
In order to be Alpe d'Huez, wouldn't a teammate contender need to set it up?
Does that imply Vino???
by Yossarian12 on Jul 22, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I think so
what if he chases the first Schleck attack
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
ventoux
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
i can just feel it in my bones
not sure why
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
general tiredness?
Andy has too much to do?
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
yep, both
i’m more interested in the battle for 3rd…
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
I wonder even about that after Samu's heavy fall
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
yep
might come down to the TT (sigh)
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
Rabo pulling a bit now though...
& they have two guys up there
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
fingers crossed we're just being cynical!
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
I’m concerned that Astana has worked too hard today, while Saxobank may be taking it a bit easier.
"He looked pretty good until he went over the side of that cliff." - thevaro
Saxo aren't really mountain guys. They'll be fried.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Saxo have been a bit more in evidence today than some
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
has sastre ever talked about retirement?
just curious, not criticizing.
"The motor happens to be me." -Fabian
That's what I'm wondering.
If he’s not going to do GC in a GT, is there anything else he wants to do? Not that I can tell.
I leave my keyboard for a few minutes and you all go to a new thread and post 58 comments.
Impressive.
And without any Aussies!
Very well done.
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
where are they? umwolverine, seahorse...stuey was at the front and nothing...
"The motor happens to be me." -Fabian
Having it live on free to air tv
Does make it awfully easy to get distracted from the computer…
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
distracted from the computer? never.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Um is American... she's going to hunt you down...
I was watching Stuey :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Perhaps he has blocked you by now?
If so, http://twibbon.com/join/Blocked-By-Lance
Ceci n'est pas une signature.
its a sign of how irrelevant I am on Twitter that he has not blocked me.
by ZoeRochelle on Jul 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you tried sending
harassing messages? I imagine that’s how the others did it.
Vlaanderens Mooiste
is that lars?
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
chapeau!
Good to see him being useful in his first Tour
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Where's EBH in the points classification?
/Lazy Dennis
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
Kelly says (& I haven't checked this)
6th & has picked up 12 points today, so may reach 4th.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Grazie
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 22, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
71 behind Thor at the start of the stage
65 after the first sprint point.
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 22, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, who'd have thought of a "sprinter" being talked about this long on a mountain stage?
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 22, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
or
would have. Had he survived.
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
oops
hi Ursula
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
um
he went well over some angel hair, if that’s what you mean.
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
you've got mail
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
break gaining time
maybe a few of them will make it
by RoadRash911 on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
walk fast
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
are you there yet?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
/o\
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
lanterne rouge territory
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
now it makes sense
the dresses are presidential umbrellas
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
who's Sarko?
(have no volume right now if it was discussed in commentary)
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 22, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
french prez
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
never mind - you mean the president (I'ma dumbass)
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 22, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
you said it
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
obviously didn't get the Sarko abreviation...
but when I saw that the podium girls had to watch out – it hit me…
:)
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 22, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Why do the poka dota girls...
have to wear those big dress instead of the mini skirts like the yellow jersey girls?
It's to make them look more like mountains.
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Their GPS died and they're not sure how to get to the top from here?
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
All your base are belong to me
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Anonymous are hacking the chalkbot?
wishful thinking
Dude, I can see my house from here
either that
or Ascii porn
Dude, I can see my house from here
+ 11111111111111111
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
25km for the break
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Sastre could lose some significant time on GC today
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions
went on vacation over the weekend, wasted every morning watching the tour
the family wasn’t pleased
"I would say my biggest flaw, my Achilles heel is my tireless work ethic"-Kenny Powers
they get over it
and by Vuelta time you can do it again…
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 22, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
(have experiance with this from several years of disapointing my own family too)
The beach will still be there after the race is over girls…
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
"and you'll finally be ready to enter your own VDS team"
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
the key is never change
If they already knew you like this it is all good. You can always say you are consistent. I always say “you bought it(me) as it is”
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
families are temporary, the tour is forever
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
my family was downright confused last night
by the lack of race watching by me. explained the rest day and all was forgiven :-)
by billcicletta on Jul 22, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
+10000000
restarting fromsport is quite inconvieniant
by JustJoshinYa on Jul 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
+1000000 more
I live in fear of losing the stream at the finish. Well, there’s always Versus on TV…
"He looked pretty good until he went over the side of that cliff." - thevaro
VS tour tracker is jumpy for me today too
hope it holds up
by billcicletta on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
And...
it looks like my dream of seeing the finish of today’s stage before 8:30 is in serious jeopardy.
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
damn, me too
well folks, Koppenberg is going to run late today. Blame the sheep.
Vlaanderens Mooiste
23km, 4.25
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
looks like Sastre is huuuuuurting too
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
so
a family drives from Belgium, gets to the Tourmalet, and pulls over at the bottom of the hill before the climb really starts?
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
Dude, this is not Koppenberg
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 22, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, the Koppenberg is not the issue
The Tourmalet really ties the Tour together.
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Also Dude, Koppenberg is not the preferred nomenclature
Cobbled-American, please.
Vlaanderens Mooiste
Being from Belgium they're uncertain about what to do
When confronted by an actual mountain?
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
or
maybe they only wanted to see the classics guys on the front pulling.
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, you didn't mention that they were your Belgian cousins!
"I once took down a bear with a single punch." - Andy Schleck, Bear Wrassler
by omnevelnihil on Jul 22, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
On some stages, I saw families in lawn chairs
on busy flat roads 10 kms short of climbs. Sitting there. 6 hours before the riders .
Bizarre, except for the booze on their tables
moo
hm, yes
that’s an explanation of sorts.
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
It will start in earnest soon for the breakaway
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
together with you
one tour wonder
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
behind the peloton. before the autobus.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I want to see J. antonio flecha win...
…just so that I can see that cool bow and arrow celebration of his
I'll take that over a pistolero salute any day
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
yeah the pistolero salute
…has become too commonplace
by PackFaninFL on Jul 22, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Vs. tour tracker must have 100% of users signed in today
very choppy
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
I'm not 100% happy with it
plus: no commercials or VS feature breaks
minus: choppy most days, no road ambient noise, no audio on post stage podium or interviews
by billcicletta on Jul 22, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a decent complement to TV
And is helping me this week since I’m tethered at work. But it would have been nice to have the HD option.
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
boom
this is some pacemaking.
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
I have a feeling...
Contador is going to dominate this climb…
that's my fear too
Not that they won’t be wanting to pull big aggressive moves, but that they’re both worn out already and equally matched uphill.
Prove me wrong, boys.
Stalemate is a win for one of them...
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
Here we go!!!
The Col de Tore my legs (off)
oh carlos
see ya friend
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
come on feed. don't do this to me.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Boss hog dropping off
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
16.5km, 3.07
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
today is the day i will be late for work
"I would say my biggest flaw, my Achilles heel is my tireless work ethic"-Kenny Powers
and one of cycling's big questions has been answered
Can EBH climb enough to win the Tour?
"Good thing I never said out loud that I was pulling for France, before this all started." -Mark Blacknell
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 22, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
Not this year.
But he’s still scary young.
Dans le final, j'avais des jambes de feu--Sylvain Chavanel, after his win on Stage 7
don't think the break stays away.
"I was watching the Tour de France in 2005, just being a fan again. I thought, ‘you're a fucking idiot. You're a bike fan who gets to ride the Tour de France.'"
- david millar
When *it* hit's the fan
better not be sittin’ on your can
by Badger the Bouncer on Jul 22, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
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