TdF Stage 17 SIXTH thread
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what is more impressive today, conta and andy or us making it to six threads?
"I would say my biggest flaw, my Achilles heel is my tireless work ethic"-Kenny Powers
...must ... obey ... tour ... sponsors ...
by Burgundy and Gold on Jul 22, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
must buy clean bottle
say goodbye to moldy bottles
by Burgundy and Gold on Jul 22, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Contador is simply the best rider
For all the polemica, AC is going to win because he is the best.
(waiting for Schleck to make me look stupid now)
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
There were days that he was the lesser rider
but those days aren’t today.
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
Imagining 'Berto
waiving Andy to win the stage by way of being gracious for the other day.
Vlaanderens Mooiste
you listening to brian on ctv?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
that would be awesome.
Don’t know if there is any haterade strong enough to counteract that.
Patronising..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
For Andy, second this year, sucks
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That wouldn't be a good move..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That would not make him popular
with the crybabies
Jens! Voigt puts the 'laughter' in 'manslaughter'
Jens! annual rest-day bratwurst fest
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
i'd like to see that
but does he want to use that much energy when he knows the TT will go his way?
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Contador is in Schlecks slipstream
conserving wattage….
andy is kicking up water on contador
clear advantage for AS here
by Burgundy and Gold on Jul 22, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Phil making the Poulidor-Anquetil comparo
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
Sure, why note
Much greater chance that they are clean…
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
this is already boring
as great as it is…
by Davide Don of Rio on Jul 22, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
are we waiting on a mechanical? this stage is over.
by Davide Don of Rio on Jul 22, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
dude, the best two riders are slugging it out in the last climb of the Queen stage separated by 8 seconds. What more do you want?
What do I want?
I’s like Andy to be stronger and for Berts TT to be be weak as shit. I think its an incredible moment, but sporting wise I think the moment as passed
by Davide Don of Rio on Jul 22, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
victoria's secret models
along the sides of the road all the way up.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
well, in sense it was before it started
in that Contador need do nowt much…
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
I agree
They should light one of them on fire, and throw rocks at them
Jens! Voigt puts the 'laughter' in 'manslaughter'
1.01
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
some ride from Gesink today, I think
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Hell, its hurting me!
What a freaking amazing race!
6km
Schleck is running out of time. I just don’t see it happening.
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions
need barriers
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Bert looks like hes thinking about what he might have for dinner
by Davide Don of Rio on Jul 22, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
he's always hard to read
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Andy has shredded everyone but Alberto
I’m not sure he’s got another surge in him, but he won’t drop ’Berto without one.
Vlaanderens Mooiste
I think Berto could drop Schleck right now, but not vice versa
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
It's kind of amazing how well
two people can be matched like this. Both seem to be in the very same place.
uphill
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting thought
If Bert was 30 secs behind Andy gong into today’s stage, would this look any different right now?
if the roles/times were reversed
we’d be seeing tons of attacks from bert
"I would say my biggest flaw, my Achilles heel is my tireless work ethic"-Kenny Powers
Does Conta go around for the win?
I doubt it. He’ll give it to Andy as payment for ditching him before
Dat was echt een schwalbe!
do you not think he'll want a win on the road?
better if you win the Tour with a win?
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Contador wants a win, but not bad enough to wheelsuck for 15km and then drop Schleck in the last 400m
that wouldn’t add anything to his Tour win IMO, and could only hurt him PR wise.
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
i think he will do just that
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
I think not winning a stage on the road hurts him PR wise far more.
I also think a gift hurts Andy.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
I think we'll see more attacks...
…from the Sanchez group
Hey! You watching The two Best Cyclists on the Planet, right now!
Alexander " Love him or not" Vinokurov is the Eighth Wonder of the World.
.
considering they're on the back of his jersey
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
hurry up guys, i need more coffee
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Love the Eurosport commentary
“Come on lad, if you’re hard enough….It ain’t time for beer and tapas now boy”
Fantastic!
4km
Schleck’s last shot…
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions
eep
Schleck hanging on to Contador now!!
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
zoom
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
just a class above...
there he GOOOESSS
by Davide Don of Rio on Jul 22, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
CONTADOR!
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
shuts it down
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
no longer care who wins tour
want Andy to win stage
Dude, I can see my house from here
i just want more attacks
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Andy: If im towing your ass with no gap you better not take the stage
Bert: Andy, watch me accelerate
by Davide Don of Rio on Jul 22, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
Showdown of the century and I am stuck in f..... Sweden! Devine intervention,
poetic justice and Irish luck packed into on smelly, abrasive snowball! Smoergåsbord!
You are in Strömstad, just like all the other Norwegians?
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 22, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
That's even worse. I can only assume you're lost.
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger...
by TheFigurehead on Jul 22, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
How can anybody attack with all those drunkard on the road?
"He looked pretty good until he went over the side of that cliff." - thevaro
andy pushing flag out of his face. come on, fans.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Wow...imagine the Schleck/Contador rivalry if Schleck could ITT
Still a great battle.
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
Schleck is riding like a major champion....
But Conta is conserving energy…
because there are male nudists...
…drunk ones.
Andy nearly skewered by Euski flag
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
RYDER!!!
Man’s ride there for the Canuck!
2.5km
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
how soon until lance armstrong catches AC & AS?
by Burgundy and Gold on Jul 22, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
any minute now
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
U mean u wouldn't have been able to keep up with them?
Shattered illusions… Reminiscent of the day I discovered that my dad was a mere mortal… :(
+one million
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
1km to the barriers
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
is this the only sport...
where fans are permitted on the “field of play”?
"framepump" eh?
So that’s what the kids are calling it these days…
Jens! Voigt puts the 'laughter' in 'manslaughter'
Because the strongest man
should never win?
Andy has been a hero, but not the strongest man on the day. Andy can only win with Alberto’s permission.
Vlaanderens Mooiste
nah
I love heroic failure.
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
P&P saying Contador wants the stage win
that would be a fun finish.
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
being late to work is gonna be so worth it
"I would say my biggest flaw, my Achilles heel is my tireless work ethic"-Kenny Powers
1km
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
no barriers
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
now barriers
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
150 meters
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Indeed...
…made it hard to tell whether it was a gift at all.
Yes... I can live with that :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
andy conta
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
why, andy did all the pace setting.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair Play folks, fair play.
Interesting decision by Alberto.
"He looked pretty good until he went over the side of that cliff." - thevaro
He did the right thing.
Andy did the work. Conta showed some class
Dat was echt een schwalbe!
-1
Don’t believe it for a second.
Dans le final, j'avais des jambes de feu--Sylvain Chavanel, after his win on Stage 7
Didn't you see his face?
Dans le final, j'avais des jambes de feu--Sylvain Chavanel, after his win on Stage 7
oi - what happened to "no gifts"?
Dude, I can see my house from here
this is the new nicer peloton
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
+1
1.5 minutes on everyone not named contador is pretty damn good
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
2 stage wins for Andy...
I yellow shirt for Alberto….
Merry christmas…
That was nice and classy
Congratulations to those two, just miles above everyone else!
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
I wouldn't call that a gift
Andy deserved that, and Contador may not have had the will for the sprint anyway
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
my point above...
…they were both on the limit.
Yep
Schleck was the best rider on the day. He deserved the stage.
Contador was playing for a draw, as well he should have.
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
Respectful by contador
to not sprint because Andy did all the work
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
I don't know
Hinault or Armstrong could have pulled it off. Rights of the conqueror and all.
Vlaanderens Mooiste
And thats why Contador isn't nearly as much of a dick as Armstrong
I can’t believe Kloden can ride with him, but that was ages ago
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
nice ride by horner also
1st schacker. who would tell.
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
yeah it was payback
for chain…
Andy was “short chained” on that deal :P
Ryder!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No more than he celebrated Frank's win last year :-)
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Amazing that Sammy finished this stage
THAT was the ride of the day for sure, no?
Hope Hugh isn't watching
"It's a lovely thing, feeling that momentum. If you're lucky, it's also about grace." Tim Winton
aww i missed the hug when it was live
what a stage guys
by Burgundy and Gold on Jul 22, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
Nice hugs there between the two As.
It’s nice that they can finish up like this :)
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
the slap on the cheek
THAT was patronizing
Dude, I can see my house from here
haha yea
“better luck next year bud”
by Davide Don of Rio on Jul 22, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
it was like
“nice try andy, but I am still the boss”
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
no it's not
bit of cultural misunderstanding there I think
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
I suspect it's a cultural thing that I'm unaware of.
He certainly woudln’t make a patronizing move after all that.
"He looked pretty good until he went over the side of that cliff." - thevaro
incredible rider
but I don’t care for the dude
by billcicletta on Jul 22, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't read much into it, the Spaniards are fans of the cheek slap
They always seem to mean it more affectionately
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
was gonna say the same thing
It can be like, “my god, you nearly killed me there, my friend.”
Yep, which is what he did to Luis and AV in Paris-Nice
Right before Luis squeezed his cheek. They’re just touchy
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that was sarcasm
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
ooh, and the wink
ick
just caught that on the replay
by billcicletta on Jul 22, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Time to make the donuts
Everyone, you may now start arguing about stuff…
Jens! Voigt puts the 'laughter' in 'manslaughter'
Was that JRod in third?
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions
Bert trying to avoid more bad press
and why is Andy celebrating?
Way to go Ryder! I hear some evil laughing from sideburns somewhere in the background.
Taking the win would have been a worse move that chain-gate
He did the right thing…I’m not sure if he did it for all the right reasons or not (I’m no mind reader).
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Roche beats Gadret over the line
Dat was echt een schwalbe!
Watch out for that front wheel!
"He looked pretty good until he went over the side of that cliff." - thevaro
Schleck tried as hard as fing could
Contador’s just good: that was a real fight.
Schleck’s dig to get back to Contador’s attack was major.
very impressive
and telling of the sort of rider Andy is.
Dat was echt een schwalbe!
Aw, Luis and Kiryienka come over the finish together
Very proud of you boys too <3
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
Look at the face of defeat boy, over here!
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
yeah, bit of a hero for me today Andy
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
Andy-Alberto is going to be a great rivalry...
…next few years. Andy is much stronger comparatively than he was last year.
He's still young, I predict he'll get stronger over the next year
Contador, OTOH, is close to his peak.
This will be a great battle.
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yes
he just needs to not have any problems, and be aggressive throughout, and we may see him challenge Contador much closer for GC.
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
with the time trial it will be a big gap I would imagine
but someday he’ll make contador very worried
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
probably, we'll see, won't we?
but right now, 8 seconds that Contador got by questionable means is pretty dang close.
if only that chain didn't pop...
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
erm, let's wait & see how he TTs, I think
"I was just trying to keep warm" - Ian Stannard on finishing third in KBK
don't think levi is in yet
so yes
hell of a ride for Horner
by billcicletta on Jul 22, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
no. but my vds team thanks horner
for the effort.
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
Kloden did too i think
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oh dear... that's a big gap..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
For as much crap as Gadret has gotten
Once LA was out of things, the Shack essentially became 9 separate guys riding this race. The only noticeable teamwork was when LA and Horner were in the same break and even then they didn’t seem to know what to do with it.
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
9 seperate guys riding the race for team GC that is
it ended up looking odd and somehow may propel Chris Horner to an improbable top 10, but it had some results (kinda).
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
I didn't think he could do that
amazing showing by him
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
quick recovery a good sign?
He looked like a zombie the handful of times they showed him climbing, but right after, he sounded like he hadn’t even started the race yet.
Better than his drunken bear-punching salute
After the first stage win.
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
if he was protected
he wouldn’t have been let in the break yesterday. That’s how it worked for him.
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
great season for him
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
Because Kim Kirchen had a heart attack..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Sanchez - bloody amazing.
Dude, I can see my house from here
there are a lot of fights now
fight for 3rd, for 5th and for 8th. Sort to say.
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
Wonder if Evil Sideburns will print that off
and mail it to Brailsford.
Jens Voigt doesn’t know where you live, but he knows exactly where you will die.
Interesting day
But is the Consensus that this stage win was a gift? I think that this is pretty clear, no?
I think either could have won at the line
but I wouldn’t call this a gift
by billcicletta on Jul 22, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
call it a sorta gift:
if Contador could have attacked and dropped Schleck in the last k, he would have.
Since he couldn’t, he didn’t.
I think Alberto could have gone around had he wished
Dat was echt een schwalbe!
agreed
if he could have gotten a gap, he’d have taken it. But he thought it was bad form to sprint just at the end.
yep and paying attention to bad form isn't the same as "gift"
by billcicletta on Jul 22, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
No consensus
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
we need a poll
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
i expect his answer will be no.
"Ants don’t worry, they operate like a fantastic team, they accept obstacles and deal with them in a positive manner, they don’t complain and remain positive. An ant doesn’t work on emotion, is proactive and always chooses the ant role."
In any case he couldn't possibly say "yes"
Ambiguous at best. This is a perfect finish, I think.
"He looked pretty good until he went over the side of that cliff." - thevaro
He said on the interview
that winning on the Tourmalet was nice but it was secondary. Being in yellow in Paris is what is important.
I think this king of answers it: He didn’t put much effort. Just that.
"Contador just gained a great chance to win, but he lost the chance to win greatly." - Gerard Vroomen
I'm sure he'll say he was spent
and had nothing left for the sprint
"You know if there's any contact at all Cristiano Ronaldo's gonna go down...maybe even just a puff of wind"
Alberto attacked effortlessly
at 4 km to go to demonstrate that he was feeling good, then left it to Andy to decide whether or not to press the point.
saving energy for attack on Champs-Élysées
Dude, I can see my house from here
Shack picked up a few minutes for the Team Classification
http://www.bah.net/
by dees ees en drama on Jul 22, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
They didn't really need it, they had 4.5 anyway and the TT favours them...
Still proud of Cd’E for the fight they put up with a team that on paper isn’t as strong as RS
Venga Caisse d'Epargne!
yikes
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Jul 22, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
PLEASE Ryder
Don’t let this change you!!!!! Keep shooting for classics, don’t fall for GC dreams like Wiggo and VDV….
I really hope not... they've come so far.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
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